April 24, 2007
Why we call it the Clowncil
Today's Seattle Times: " Clowncil member wants city's goal to be "greener""
Seattle City Clowncilmember Peter Steinbrueck and several colleagues want to "outgreen" Mayor Greg Nickels.
Steinbrueck proposed Monday that the clowncil set more aggressive environmental goals than Nickels has recommended.
While vague on specific goals and how he would attain them, Steinbrueck said he favored a ban on plastic bags, waste-to-energy incinerators, fees for driving cars downtown and a requirement that developers construct energy-efficient buildings.
"This is about walking the talk. It's about a serious commitment rather than rhetoric," Steinbrueck said.
Steinbrueck is the Clowncilmember who has pushed the hardest to get families to give up their cars and move into downtown condos
. He's also the Clowncilmember who currently lives farthest from downtown and makes the most use of City vehicles
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at April 24, 2007
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1. So chasing people and development away from Seattle is good for the environment? These folks don't give a rip about the environment, they are just pandering to their religious base.
"fees for driving cars downtown"
The Seattle business community needs to speak up. Between this idea and the fact they the city has reduced requirements on parking spaces for new development, pretty soon, the problem will work itself out: nobody will go downtown.
Fees for going downtown are pretty regressive as well - I know people will say "ride the bus", but that is not always possible for the working family that has to deal with childcare, school, soccer, etc.
This is just another reason to avoid Seattle....
3. Come on why pick on Peter, he is in good company of hypocrites, the Mayor, County Exec., Gore, Johnny Travolta, shall I keep going.
Recall our fair Mayor that owned a castle in France, and indicated that 2 people in Seattle only need 1400 square feet to live in. His name was??
Any way,I have lost all respect for any of these charlatans.
All these politicians need to be changed regularly just like diapers, and for the same reason.
4. fees for driving cars downtown
They are already doing this with the increased taxes on parking downtown.
Whatever. Keep giving people reasons not to come downtown, and we'll keep staying away. I'm sure the businesses at Southcenter and Northgate appreciate the business.
5. Ahhhnold says that if these hypocrites can get people like you and me to cut down our energy use, we shouldn't jump all over the Steinbruecks of the world for their duplicity.
6. You can point out how unreasonable, unworkable, retarded, illogical and generally stupid as all hell his proposals are all day long and it won't make a bit of difference. He's a religious fanatic, so you have to appeal to him on those grounds.
Watermelons. Green on the outside, red on the inside.
They lost the ideological war of communism over democracy, although they still hope in Cuba. They see the opportunity to push the Marxism in the Green Movement. By scaring enough people into buying the hype the can advance their agenda clocked in the rhetoric of "saving the planet."
It's pure elitist manure, look at those yelling the loudest and their lifestyles, vs. what they ask the proletariat to do.
If we do all that is asked of us by the watermelons what will be left. By the definitions of the watermelons N. Korea is the Greenest place on earth. They forget all the trees there have been eaten.
Did anyone really expect anything other than hypocrisy and hubris by the clowncil libtards
BTW did anyone happen to contact 'Baghdad' Jim McDermott and ask him what he thinks of all this?
Steinbruck vs. Mayor Nickels vs. Al Gore vs. Mayor Bloomberg vs. Governor Swarzenegger vs. Governor Gregoire vs. Laurie David vs. CHERYL CROW (one square of toilet paper per bathroom visit).
Whose puffed up vanity legacy will win?
Soon even the most naive of the citizenry will become suspicious of the psychotic, sociopathic nature of the vanity and re-election money grab being foisted on them.
BUT, on the otherhand, perhaps it is time to sue our governments based upon State Initiative 900 which requires accountability for the spending of our tax dollars.
It is a cost benefit law which we voted in support of a few years back, but which has yet to be employed and tested.
11. Plastic bags........oh, the horror!
12. I draw the line at Mao jackets!
I applaud these efforts as they will contribute to making Seattle even more undesirable as a place to live...forcing at least 800,000 people to leave the Puget Sound.
So this is what the 'progressives' call enlightenment; more like another digressive policy where the lights on and no one is home.
Will the last person leaving Seattle please turn the lights out?
I remember about 6 years ago, the KLOWNS were on a rampage against the "styrofoam" meat trays that Grocers use to pack hamburgers, steaks etc.
The KLOWNS convinced themselves:
a) That "styrofoam" meat-trays were much worse on the environment than hard plastic.
b) "Styrofoam" meat trays were littering our roadways & environment.
The facts are:
1) "Styrofoam" meattrays were nothing more than hard plastic with air blown in! They failed to even look at the chemical composition.
2) Hard Plastic Trays were cutting the hands of butchers & customers.
3) Hard Plastic Trays would cut the plastic wrap causing animal blood to seep all over and expose the meat.
4) No one to my knowledge has ever reported anyone driving home from QFC unwrapping a roast from a styrofoam tray and hurling the "styrofoam" tray out the window!
It will be very interesting to see how many mindless ideas KLOWNcilmember Steinbrueck can pull out of his ass on this mission.
16. Meanwhile, the president of the company I work for searches daily for property in Snohomish County. We are moving the business out of King county, yah!
Fees for driving cars downtown, on top of tolls for driving cars downtown. Then why the hell do we need a 520 bridge anyway?
Just begs the question.
Steinbruek is right on!!
Let's start summarily and randomly executing HOV lane violaters, single car motorists, heterosexuals, people who patronize businesses, couples who produce children, Caucasians, jaywalkers, but worst of all-strip club patrons.
Good that Starbrueck is leaving--perhaps more will follow (as if I give a rip).
Anybody read the recent piece on Nickels and Sims trying to out-recycle each other? Does it amaze anyone else that these bozos are "spending the morning separating recyclables" while there is serious work to be done? Can we maybe elect some adults next time?
On the positive side, I have noticed that both have recently slimmed down somewhat--no doubt as a result of the fat arse reputations they have developed on SP.
20. sad thing is... the idiot voters in Seattle will elect this guy Mayor.
A couple of things here.
First of all, Steinbrueck was on the radio yesterday talking about this very subject. He did say that he rides busses all the time. So I wonder which it is: "...makes the most use of city vehicles." or uber-green bus rider?
Second, I think that doing whatever Steinbrueck says is simply a great idea. He even said so. His model is New York, which uses the toll to enter the city. One problem is that Seattle isn't New York and that is where the problem lies.
Like I said, this will be great. Seattle will be vacant of businesses in a matter of years. Mr. Steinbrueck doesn't seem to realize that Seattle businesses rely on people from the 'burbs for support. I don't see them paying for the privilege. Bellevue and the surrounding metropolis will grow. Seattle will slowly lose relevance.
There will probably be a program of city distributed "Entrance Vouchers". These will be exclusively for the use of Seattle's elite's so that they may pass into the Fabled City for free. That will be expanded to the poor. Since there are no advocates for the middle class and they do not wield the levers of power, they will be denied Entrance Vouchers.
"...Steinbrueck said he favored a ban on plastic bags, waste-to-energy incinerators, fees for driving cars downtown..."
Huh?? Energy-from-waste plants are an extremely "green" way to capture and use otherwise toxic landfills aross the country. Other countries are rushing to participate in this emerging market.
This reduces greenhouse gas emissions cuz piles of rotting garbage produce methane (20 times as powerful as CO2)
And the energy produced from burning waste is used to generate electricity.
Germany (who top all eco / energy efficiency lists) love energy-from-waste technology, and are partnering with forward-thinking cities to share their expertise (and economic opportunities!)
I encourgae Steinbrueck to Google "waste-to-energy", and get up on the science!
I think its clear that Seattle will be greener after all the people have moved out of it. The ivy, blackberries and other (non-native, but potected) plants will grow wild, and moss can cover the unused buildings.
It will also offer extensive habitat for wild animals and Street People.
Think of all the carbon emissions that will offset.
The best part is that since no one will commute there (via the brand new light rail system to nowhere) folks will tend to live closer to work. Mind, they'll live in the same place. Jsut work will get closer.
How can you object to that?
24. fees for driving cars downtown.....Yeah...that's about as funny as your stupid idea to put a tax on toilet paper or shoes you numbnut.