We're going to be talking about the Virginia Tech shooting for weeks to come. In its aftermath, there'll be discussion about why and how the shooter committed his actions and what needs to be done to prevent a similar tragedy from happening again.
Probably the most offensive issue brought up, so far, is that somehow there is going to be a backlash against America's Korean community.
The headline of a story in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reads, "Local Korean community apologetic, and fearful..."
In the article, the assistant director of a local radio station states,
"Koreans should keep a low profile, refraining from going to the mall with lots of children, so as not to draw attention to themselves."
The Associated Press writes,
"South Korean students heading to the United States expressed concern Wednesday over a possible backlash..."
"We are concerned that we could become a target of hate crimes,"
"South Koreans fear the killing...will cause racial backlash against them in the United States."
A Korean community leader in Virginia is quoted by the Washington Post,
"Even for those who were born in America, they may face an identity crisis. They may be looked at differently now...There may be ethnic issues."
I'm not easily offended but the idea that most Americans are going to think the actions of one lone lunatic is somehow representative of the entire Korean community is ridiculous. The notion that Koreans need to fear for their family's lives is warped and disgusting.
Do people really have that low of an opinion about the psyche of the American public? Does anyone seriously think that lynch mobs are going to head down to South Tacoma Way or Bellevue's Overlake neighborhood to start torching convenience stores and dry cleaning shops? Are Korean families going to be taunted at the South Tacoma Mall because of the shooting?
Give over.
No sane individual who looks at the media images of the Virginia Tech shooter is going to walk away feeling the need to exact revenge on Koreans, Asians, college-age men or whatever racial, class or social demographic you choose to parse a person into.
Any leaders who suggest differently are, at best, either behaving irresponsibly or are projecting their own bigotry onto others.
Pure BS.
As we learn more about this young man. He has had problems for years.
Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 18, 2007 01:07 PMAnd this also reminds me of the actual NASCAR incitement attempt by one media outlet last year. They sent people to a NASCAR race dressed in the full Muslim Hijab, head dress, etc. And they had a "documentary" film crew undercover in the hopes that someone would lash out at the fictional Muslims while on camera. Of course, nothing happened.
Folks in the US are tolerant, and that's the whole reason why we have the lattitude that allows the occasional crazy to go on a shooting spree.
The Left is simply pushing the issue as a political vehicle for gun control. Gun control that won't achieve anything. Because law abiding and mentally balanced average Americans are not the problem. And neither are the guns.
The problem is a failed culture, and a large part of that culture can be blamed on the left. On the one hand, they want an open free, ghetto rap, hedonistic, secular culture devoid of reasonable morality on the grounds that such would be too "conservative." On the other hand, they want all manner of weapons, individual thought, and any option of force that requires responsibility to be abolished. They can't have it both ways.
Posted by: Jeff B. on April 18, 2007 01:09 PMWe have a winner, Bob. Tell him what he's won.
That's exactly what they're doing. Projection is the one constant of the small-minded.
Posted by: jimg on April 18, 2007 01:16 PMThink he didn't plan this?
No gun law would have stopped him.
I think it's more likely that he snapped because he was an English major & he had to confront the dastardly plots of the MLA.
Posted by: steve miller on April 18, 2007 01:51 PMGoes to prove the antiUS propaganda machine has done the job. Sometimes I think the US should do what the radical left and Pat Buchanan wants- isolationism- until the next time they want the USA to bail them out.
Posted by: swatter on April 18, 2007 01:56 PM> Had it been a Muslim the act would have been based on an evil value system that must be wiped out.
Well ... evidently, Americans are not entirely free of bigotry yet.
Religious prejudice ... who would have guessed?
Posted by: David Mathews on April 18, 2007 02:03 PMI don't see his Korean-ness as having much to do with his derangement.
Posted by: steve miller on April 18, 2007 02:16 PMAlso, I must point out that the killer is no more Korean than he is American. Even though he wasn't a US citizen, he came to US when he was only 8 and was literally raised by the dreadful educational system in this country.
Posted by: DopioLover on April 18, 2007 02:20 PMFirst, I have a question. If the V-Tech campus was a Gun Free Zone, what was the shooter doing there with a gun!?
Second, it is easy to see, and this is exhibited on a regular basis all day every day, is that the media are the ones who stir-up racial fear. For myself, when it was divulged that the shooter was Korean, I thought . . . nothing. I didn't say to myself "Those crummy little yellow skinned bast*rds!" or how I was going to cuss and scream at the first Korean I saw at the mall. These types of responses are an American stereotype that the media invent from whole cloth. Of course there is always one screwball who's more than willing fit their template BUT the vast, vast majority of Americans are good people who don't respond in the manner of a bigot.
If what I read is factual this has to be the most crass and tawdry case of exploitation I have ever heard of, and every one involved should be recognized as a disgrace to humanity.
According to the story a Moslem Imam, followed by a Buddhist kicked off this tasteless spectacle. What the hell is going on here? This is Virginia and my best guess is that Southern Baptists would comprise the single largest denomination these kids belong to, followed up by Roman Catholics. Clergy of neither faith addressed the students gathered. For this school to use a tragedy of this sort to stage a look at how multicultural they can be is about as low as one can go.
Sort of like the old joke about men and sex, EVERYTHING the P-I sees, hears, touches, smells or thinks starts with race.
For more on the facts and a new perspective on how to prevent or reduce the damage from a future massacre, see the article "Is Virginia Tech Education's "9/11"? It deals in neither race, nor politics, just a better approach.
It's at:
http://canticleforleibowitz.blogspot.com/2007/04/is-virginia-tech-educations-911.html
Nice blog. I loved the original short story/novella, by the way, and think your blog is very creative.
Posted by: steve miller on April 18, 2007 02:29 PMNot everyone. It's only the psyche of the pro-gun zealots we need to worry about.
Posted by: The Ump on April 18, 2007 02:45 PMWords don't kill people. Strong people don't get the vapors because someone says something derogatory. If people _want_ to be victims, then they use anything they can find to _become_ victims.
Posted by: steve miller on April 18, 2007 03:01 PMWhen I heard this I fully expected the shooter to be some nerdy white dude on psych meds and too much time spent playing video games.
Backlash on the Koreans? Puuleeez!
Posted by: Jack Burton on April 18, 2007 03:24 PMRemember the hate crimes inflicted on Koreans and Korean-Americans during the LA riots a few years ago?
Remember the folks setting those stores on fire after looting them? Any people who would do things like that are sick racists, don't you agree?
Posted by: Rey Smith on April 18, 2007 03:28 PMIf you read other articles you'll see that people are already stereotyping us. From facebook groups to invidiual comments about how we're the most hot-headed East Asian country are surfacing and it's only been a day since we found out the gunman was korean.
So for everyone who thinks we're being overdramatic, open your eyes and look around.
Posted by: S on April 18, 2007 03:35 PMAnon, "backlash" isn't some drunk who doesn't like people of color no matter what persuasion they may be. In fact, some people just don't like anybody and use any excuse to act out. A backlash is when people previously uninclined become predisposed and I just don't see that.
Like I said before (@19), the media create these "backlashes" to sell papers and air time. They don't care about you or your people (or any people for that matter). If they did they wouldn't want to scare people of color with fairy backlashes and accuse whites (it's always whites isn't it?) of perping said backlash. Trouble is the backlash never arrives but the implication stays for a lifetime.
well, I'm looking and I don't see it. Maybe you are just looking to be a victim so you can get some sympathy?
Posted by: steve miller on April 18, 2007 03:56 PMThere are a little over 300 million people in the United States. In addition these, there are 16 to 20 million illegal immigrants. So out of those 300+ million what constitutes a "backlash" 6 grunt-bags on You Tube? Or a few thousand around the country? Like I said before, a few hundred screwballs who don't like anybody (hell, a few thousand) doesn't constitute a "backlash". When you find 100 million willing to condemn the whole of Koreans for the acts of one seriously disturbed screwball, give me a call. That would be a backlash.
I also note the misogyny of an imam who says *all* women should be veiled. Is that the sexism you cry about?
I also note the death threats against the US Vice President published on the Washington Post. Is that something you also decry?
Or do you just like to dump a smear and then flee like a little boy?
Posted by: steve miller on April 18, 2007 04:26 PMSuch an easy belief system, leftism is. You can believe whatever you want, because it's all about feelings.
Posted by: steve miller on April 18, 2007 04:29 PMReally? I read LGF several times a day.
Are you talking about the post Charles put up about the WaPo blog that has calls for the assassination of the VP?
Maybe it's the post about the laughable attempt by Rep. Ellison and his wishes that the Jews need to reach out to CAIR?
Could it be the post about the three people who had their throats slit for the horrific crime of printing Bibles?
Oh, I got it. It's the post about Muslims who killed two Buddhists ... beheading one?
No? Then please point out the racism on the front page of LGF.
The only racism I see there is stuff Charles posts that other people are doing. You know, beheaders, rioters, race pimps, UN crooks ...
Quite possibly you're reading the racist and bigoted version of LGF that only exists in your own little mind.
Or maybe a better chance is, you don't read LGF at all and have never visited the site, yet you read in your own echo chamber what a HATE SITE it is, and suck down the spew from your own kind.
Or, maybe you're still mad he created overlay .gif that proved the TANG memos were forged.
Or maybe you simply don't know what the hell you're talking about.
I'm betting it's the last three.
Posted by: jimg on April 18, 2007 04:38 PMOh look, now LGF is associating the VT killer with Islam...based on a rumor. Nice to see they play well with others.
Oh yeah, these guys at LGF are definitely not racist. They would never post something racist in nature. They would never judge people by their name. Nope, never.
Posted by: Cato on April 18, 2007 05:04 PM
backlash is just natural so to fear of it is natural
america is not 100% educated/cultured, that's why there's a term called "mass" (case in point - mass riot)
if you're not a minority living in america, u won't understand.
Posted by: f5 on April 18, 2007 05:41 PMPerhaps most of you are unaware of the numerous incidents of backlash after 9/11, against Arabs as well as non-Arabs, such as Indians, and Pakistanis who looked arab, if you are unaware than this is a product of your own ignorance.
People were killed in such "backlash".
Just today, a friend on a train, saw kids throwing stones at an Asian kid, who was pleading with them to stop, saying he had nothing to do with what had happened, and that he was not even Korean.
Of course, you ignorant breed of Americans cannot comprehend, why a country that once killed a 16 year old Emmett Till, for whistling, creates fear in the heart of ethnic minorities when event such as these occur.
Think twice, before you call the Korean Communitie's fear disgusting, your attitude is what is deplorable.
You F*&^Kn hypocrites!
Posted by: Hithesh on April 18, 2007 05:56 PMYou haven't yet.
Your statement is therefore false.
Posted by: steve miller on April 18, 2007 06:02 PM"List of 9/11 Hate Crimes"
http://www.hanania.com/hatevictims.html
A present for the few ignorant SOBs.
If I had a buck for every blogger, barfly, and spittle-flecked pundit I heard demand (or decry when not forthcoming, or ignore when forthcoming) an apology from Muslims (in general) for 9/11, I'd be posting this from my yacht in the Bahamas.
And if I were an American in Korea, I'd be ashamed if a fellow jarhead committed a crime against a Korean. I might even be apologetic (if only in a general sense).
Posted by: kreen on April 18, 2007 06:46 PMThe package sent to NBC had the return address:
A. Ishmail or Ishmael
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/index.html
It was reported he had written on his left forarm in red ink:
Ishmael Ax
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=Ishmael&form=QBRE&go.x=14&go.y=8
I also noticed (3) three pictured stories here:
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/55ABE840-AC30-41D2-BDC9-06BBE2A36665.htm
You may research this information and form your opinion.
I cannot believe what i am reading on this board. You try to explain to your 6 year old sister why all the kids are pointing at her, or shy away from her. Or listening to the story of kids being stoned as they walk home.
TRY AND TELL ME that this would have happened regardless of the event.
Posted by: Tony on April 18, 2007 07:00 PMThis is a joke right?
I assume he was perhaps waiting for the train, or perhaps getting off the train, I said "on the train" without even thinking that someone would pick on this, and assume the story was fabricated? I honestly don't even remember if he was about to get off, or about to get on, I only remembered the event, not the shoes he was wearing.
I don't see anything in the account, that seems as if I was attempting to pass off a fictional event, as occurring? Nor, would I understand the motivation for anyone to do so. My friend has just arrived at school, and he was telling us what he saw, and I apologize for the error in an insignificant detail.
I honestly was surprised to find any "backlash" in this particular incident, mainly because even the most adamant racist would be hard pressed to view school killings, to be the product of disgruntled Koreans, particularly when this was the first one that I know of to be done by a non-white.
And even though I felt that there would perhaps be little or no backlash to this particular incident, I still sympathize with the Korean community for feeling this way, because history tells us, why they would.
This shouldn't be something only understood by minorities. The white community should also understand this, after the retaliatory acts done after such events as the Rodney King beating, where innocent people were attacked just for being white.
I don't understand for the life of me, why so many here are so ignorant of history, to understand that these things occur, by the hands of just a few people, and why certain groups of people fear being attacked when they do occur?
When I was younger a group of my friends were attacked by group of ignorant white kids. You want to know the first thing that me and friends did? We drove around, found some white kids playing hockey in the middle of the street, and chased them for a few blocks, then we turned back, and went home.
In a country of 300 million people, how many people do you think feel inclined to do something similar to what I did? how many do you think feel inclined to do something even worse? Throw rocks? Gun down a Baldir Singh for wearing a turban?
--even if you don't share any of their inclinations.
Once again, it's deplorable to think that there is something wrong with the Korean Community for fearing backlash, to say so, just reveals your ignorance of history.
Matthew Shephard was killed for far less, just a few years ago. But I guess it's deplorable for the gay community to fear being victims such as he.
Posted by: hithesh on April 18, 2007 07:28 PMThis has got to be one of the dumbest statements that I have ever heard. I might as well say, "there will be no school shootings, because normal people don't go around killing people at random!"
Of course, wise one, normal people don't behave as such, a small fraction of 300 million people behave as such, and this fraction is far from normal. A small fraction is all it takes to make an impact, 9/11, as well as Cho can tell you this.
(don't worry, I don't think you belong to this fraction)
Posted by: hithesh on April 18, 2007 07:38 PMAnd Cato, you have the same problem a lot people on the Left have: you confuse people observing (quite factually) that the wave of worldwide terrorism SEEMS to be coming from radical muslims. (shrinks back in horror with hand on face). That's a fact; not racism--which is why many leftists politicians are not capable of well defending this country. They have the same highly misguided approach.
And Cato's examples of "racism" aren't. Pure and simple. But I notice Cato did not address any of the REAL racism (Like "Pouty Brown Sugar") that was reported. What say you about that, Cato? Or is it okay, because it was a leftist blogger?
On a concrete wall surrounding Camp Red Cloud, a small U.S. Army post here, an identification photograph of Sergeant Mark Walker stares blankly from dozens of posters proclaiming him "wanted" for the "crime of murder."
As banners beside the wall declare in large Korean lettering, Walker was driving a 57-ton armored vehicle that crushed to death two 13-year-old girls as a convoy passed their village on its way to a training range about 19 kilometers (12 miles) north of Seoul. The accident June 13 has become a focal point for local opposition to the presence of the 37,000 U.S. military personnel on Korean soil.
"Basically, the entire country is galvanized behind this incident," said a U.S. official in Seoul, speaking anonymously. "It will be forever brought up in news articles that we callously ran over these two girls. I don't think we are going to recover from this."
On Tuesday a group of South Koreans charged onto the main U.S. base in Seoul and attacked U.S. soldiers to protest against the accident. The American command, called United States Forces Korea, said three staff members were kicked and beaten by the protesters, who were escorted off Yongsan Base by South Korean police. Seventeen protesters were detained.
Protests are expected to reach a crescendo Wednesday when several thousand people, led by a coalition of students and clergymen, are expected to demonstrate in central Seoul. Posters throughout the region announcing "the 49th day of mourning" — a critical date after any death in Korean culture — urge crowds to converge in front of the Seoul City Hall and the nearby U.S. Embassy.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2002/07/31/kor_ed3__1.php
You guys seem like well educated people, but there are so many others out there who are so ignorant and judgemental. From a high school student's perspective, I have seen my share of truely ignorant people at school and experienced racial slurs and jokes. Even small instances, like a group of boys making ''ching, chang'' noises at me when I walked by, really offend and hurt me. Some of you may think I'm weak, but not everyone is strong enough to simply ignore the ignorant comments and insults people make. ''Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will not hurt me.'' I think that is one of the most untrue phrases, because comments, especially those dealing with race, are extremely sensitive and can really hurt someone's self esteem. Speaking as an Asian high school student, I can say that I'm very uneasy about the situation and afraid of negative comments people might make or think of me. It's about that negative image and stereotypes that we want to avoid. A Korean does not want their first impression with someone to be ''Oh, you're Korean? Hey, wasn't that killer guy also Korean?'' It's not that Koreans want sympathy. It's just their natural reaction. Please don't blame them for it.
Posted by: sobriet on April 19, 2007 12:24 AMWhile the graciousness is not required, it's certainly better than the "you deserved it" mentality the far left has been spewing.
Posted by: Andy on April 19, 2007 07:49 AMWe like to have a good reputation and we like to see advancement of our race in America. So when something like the Virginia Tech shooting happens, we can't help but be ashamed and afraid.
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Sobriet first of all. There is only one race HUMAN. So can we drop that one right now. Plus you should neither be ashamed of afraid. You or your famliy didn't do anything to cause this. Only this kid did.
Don't fall into this LIB trap about races.
Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 19, 2007 08:58 AMI can see how someone might feel that way. My problem is with the media that inflames peoples fears and prejudices with unwarranted stories for situations that have not yet occured. I have seen their handiwork firsthand.
There was a bunch of white high school boys a few years ago that decided to hold some kind of rally or something, I'm not really sure what their plan was. I think in the end it was just to bring awareness to a feeling that it is OK to discriminate against white men.
Anyway the local scumbag media (the PI and the Times)made damn sure that everyone knew about this little rally. They even let out that the clan would be there in support (a huge lie). TV trucks were there, a bunch of ignorant slogan repeaters came in with a flatbed trailer so they could be up above everyone while decrying racism.
These were just a handful of ignorant kids. Their message was not that whites are superior to everyone else. It was 'don't make us another class of people who will grow up with hatred and feel a need to repay in kind'. That is what we get especially from the blacks they want to pay whitey back for all of the things our ancestors did to them. That kind of thinking will cause racism to never cease.
Guess what the stinking clan never did show.
I had the feeling that the media would have loved it if there had been blood shed that day so they would have something to report. Hell, they could have milked that for a long time.
So let's hear from you idiot media apologists.
Posted by: REBEL on April 19, 2007 09:21 AMNonsense.
Try again. "Muslims" are not a race, unless you think all Arabs are Muslims and all Muslims are Arabs.
What you are guilty of is both lazy thinking and repeating what someone else told you.
You stated "on the front page of" & then provided cherry-picked & ambiguous _RESPONSES_. Just about anyone can post on a blog that allows comments. Are you such a lazy thinker that because you find a _RESPONSE_ that you then condemn the entire blog?
The Washington Post has, last I checked, left a post calling for the assassination of the VP on its own blog. Is the Washington Post also then agreeing to that.
Check that thing above your shoulders - it's called a brain, and it has a mind. Now use it for more than a happy place for your hat.
Posted by: steve miller on April 19, 2007 09:56 AMI don't see Jews running around the globe murdering helpless individuals because those individuals don't subscribe to their brand of bullshit and then prentending that theirs is a "religion of peace." If they were, then they ought to be tagged the same way.
Posted by: NW Denizen on April 19, 2007 10:07 AMGreat going Cato, your trying to be just like DM.
So do you read daily Kos too. Talk about HATE FILLED site.
Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 19, 2007 11:21 AMNews links please. Saying it doesn't mean zip.
sorry
Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 19, 2007 04:01 PMcarloscheco27 (2 hours ago)
I would have Gook stonped him when he was reloading frog face gook
just a few of the comments floating around youtube.
Hum, and I wonder why the Korean community would fear hate crimes?
Posted by: perez on April 19, 2007 05:41 PMhttp://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2007/04/17/vtech_korea/index.html
Here's that good old right wing hillbilly racism for you.
Posted by: h on April 19, 2007 05:56 PMNews link? Google it- korean backlash- the fear is already there. If it's stories you want to hear, I would say to go ask the closest Korean or even an asian person you know... I'm sure they can share a story or two. I've been busy all night emailing students and encouraging them to go to school tomorrow, for they fear for their life, because of some ignorant student that threaten to shoot the koreans in their high school. Thank God this student was located and held responsible for their comment, but incidents such as these will not make it to the front pages of the New York Times. But just because it's not in the front pages does not mean it does not exist.
"Saying it doesn't mean zip?" So then I guess racism [among other -isms] does not exist in the United States because not every story is reported. [I know that's a bit of a stretch b/c we all know it exists]. I really don't know what to make of your comment. I mean, I'm trying not to get offended, but why would anyone make up sure such horrible stories that are happening to them if it wasn't true? And why wouldn't you believe someone's personal story if they went through it... or wait, is it because their story isn't written up by the news industry?
Posted by: Jenny K. on April 19, 2007 08:52 PMJust because some fool shows up on Youtube, doesn't mean hate crimes. (there are nuts everywhere) The web is full of them.
Jenny... I'm a Fire fighter and worked in LA during the riots. The people who were burning and stealing everything they could were in the poorer areas. And who were they stealing from? Their own. Many of them were gang members & low lifes who just wanted a reason to steal and nothing more. The Koreans who live in the poor areas used guns to protect themselves from the gang members who wanted rob from them.
I'm wasn't a race thing as the news outlets SO wanted you to believe.
Ever heard of the sikh backlash? ignorant americans attacking the indian community which is not even arab nor part of the middle east, but simply because they're brown and wear turbans.
Although nothing may happen, the Korean community's swiftness to respond may have prevented ignorant backlash.
Wake up! The masses are stupid
Posted by: Jeet on April 20, 2007 07:31 AMEver heard of the sikh backlash? ignorant americans attacking the indian community which is not even arab nor part of the middle east, but simply because they're brown and wear turbans.
Although nothing may happen, the Korean community's swiftness to respond may have prevented ignorant backlash.
Wake up! The masses are stupid
Posted by: Jeet on April 20, 2007 07:31 AMEver heard of the sikh backlash? ignorant americans attacking the indian community which is not even arab nor part of the middle east, but simply because they're brown and wear turbans.
Although nothing may happen, the Korean community's swiftness to respond may have prevented ignorant backlash.
Wake up! The masses are stupid
Posted by: Jeet on April 20, 2007 07:31 AM"I mean, I'm trying not to get offended, but why would anyone make up sure such horrible stories that are happening to them if it wasn't true?"
One answer could be politics. There are organizations that will use this type of thing for political gain.
No doubt that some loons are going to act like idiots, but I will wait until the dust settles to determine which incident is racially motivated and which is politically motivated.
The way I remember reading about the last LA riots, is that there was a long-standing hatred between blacks and Koreans based on territoriality. Do you remember anything like that? Maybe I am wrong
You know Jenny, I am sure that you are aware that racism in some people is not unique to America. I worked for a large South Korean company, and one day I overhear the two top Korean reps discussing how stupid white Americans were. They didn't know I was standing just around the corner, but when I made my presence known they disappeared in a flash. These two guys owe their freedom, to a large part, to Americans who fought and gave their lives in the Korean war. Their company was welcomed with open arms to do business in American, and here they were making racist comments about white Americans. I have also had similar experiences working for Yugoslavian and Japanese companies. I was not offended. I just considered the source and moved on.
I guarantee you that, if I see Asians being harassed, I will report it to police and, if necessary, step in to help stop it. I will also report is here.
Jeet:
"Wake up! The masses are stupid"
Speak for yourself, Jeet.
Where were all the pro-Americans during the Columbine and Amish shootings?
BTW, have you ever asked what if the shooter was black? I highly doubt that the general American population will dare complains.
In another blog I was reading about how this one Australian lady was letting it out on Chinese people (prior to learning the shooter was Korean) then as soon as she found out the shooter was Korean she quickly switch insults to Korean.
I thought .... nice .... now you just insulted two people instead of one. What do you expect from an Australian who is known to be racist for everyone from Asians to Lebanese.
Yes, I agree the masses are stupid.
Posted by: Wayne on April 20, 2007 10:29 AMWhere were all the pro-Americans during the Columbine and Amish shootings?
BTW, have you ever asked what if the shooter was black? I highly doubt that the general American population will dare complains.
In another blog I was reading about how this one Australian lady was letting it out on Chinese people (prior to learning the shooter was Korean) then as soon as she found out the shooter was Korean she quickly switch insults to Korean.
I thought .... nice .... now you just insulted two people instead of one. What do you expect from an Australian who is known to be racist for everyone from Asians to Lebanese.
Yes, I agree the masses are stupid.
Posted by: Wayne on April 20, 2007 10:29 AMYou've gone on and on, but not offered one bit of proof.
PROOF please, not hear say!
Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 20, 2007 11:35 AMHow very ... quaint.
People make ignorant statements ALL THE TIME. But now you choose to feel "fear"? Oh wait, it validates your victimhood.
Go ahead and act like a victim. See how far that gets you in life. See what kind of respect that earns you.
Posted by: steve miller on April 20, 2007 11:46 AMI bet some Koreans first thought, "Oh no, another stupid & crazy American." When they learned about the shooting, but when they learned it was a Korean it was a huge shock and slap to the community, and they braced themselves for blowback. Would the greater Korean communities have gathered up for vigils and mourned if there were no Koreans involved whatsoever, probably not.
Asians are collective people, we don't think “my” or “I”, but “our” and “we”. This is especially true with Koreans, and it can be seen in their language, if you listen to a Korean introduce their mother's they will say this is our mother, or "oorhee ohmini." I stick to my earlier statement in that the “masses are stupid.” Here is proof that you might be able to comprehend:
Soccer Hooligans
Sanjaya remaining on American Idol
The fact that we still have an Electoral College
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking_USA
Posted by: jeet on April 20, 2007 04:18 PMIsn't it time for the adults to laugh out of town these whiny adolescent beliefs? There's something wrong with a society that does nothing more than elevate its warts to be catastrophic cancers.
The elephant in the living room isn't racism. It's that we are so used to living in fear and hating our society that we cannot believe anything good about it.
And tragedy, while tragic, doesn't undermine the basic truths about modern American society - it's very rich and full of opportunities for advancement. So stop whining and start working.
Posted by: steve miller on April 21, 2007 08:08 AMhow many people have to die before it becomes a backlash?
how many people must be hurt before you admit that humans, (not just Americans) can easily be prejudiced.?
how many people must you see crying/bleeding infront of you before you accept that people do use sterotypes. and that we use those heuristics to guide our everyday life.
yes, when we become aware of it, we wont be as prejusdiced. but there are many places in the world where things are NOT politically correct.
but you must realized in an event like this, people are EMOTIONALLY charged... emotions impairs people's objective view.
you ask for proof, how can you see proof if the emotions are not directed at you?
it seems to me that you are living in a bubble. or are very very sheltered.
When you got headlines in the news that says:
"Deranged Korean Immigrant Kills 32 At Virginia-Tech"
or
"Worst Massacare in North America Commited by South Korean" (although I am pretty sure the Spanish wins 1st place on this one several hundards years ago.)
there is something wrong here. and if you are Asian, you SHOULD be afriad as this is how the media portrays you.
Now Steve, I hope you understand what I just said here. cause history is full of examples where a signifercant event changed people's perception of others for the worst.
to name afew short examples of that which led to people being discriminated/prejudiced against:
-Germans after WWII
-Japanese-Americans in America during WWII
I hope thinking about this opened a new perspective.
"backlash" is what Jiggy @ 33 said--fabricated by MSM & victm industry groups to incite us all against each other and not unite us. a phanton.
and the quote above? boo hoo. out comes my violin. everyone a victim. even perps. try living elsewhere for better treatment. my ancestors were slaughtered in Europe by every new invading horde. and probably called names too!
Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on April 22, 2007 04:09 AM