March 06, 2007
Felons Have Been Released Early for Five Years

David Postman includes a fascinating point in his coverage of the early release of felons now in the news:

State corrections chief Harold Clarke, also at Gregoire's press conference this morning, said the policy has been in place for five years. That predates Gregoire's term as governor, but she was attorney general when the program apparently began.

Postman goes on to note in his post and in the comments that the Governor forcefully denied she was aware of the program either as AG or in her current job. Obviously, if she did know things would get mighty difficult for her in a hurry.

Meanwhile, she faces some real pressure. How many felons walked early in the preceding five years? Who in the Gregoire administration knew about the policy? Why wasn't the Governor aware either now or as AG?

Given her justifiable outrage and swift response, one would assume she's posing these questions behind the scenes, and one would hope holding people accountable with vigor.

From what we've seen thus far it would seem matters can only get worse for Gregoire as information comes out about this story. The only question is exactly how bad it gets.

Posted by Eric Earling at March 06, 2007 07:41 AM | Email This
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1. Gregoire will hold true to form and blame someone under her, as she did when she was AG and cost the taxpayers millions by forgetting court deadlines and then blaming it on someone else. It stretches the imagination that as AG she was unaware of the early release program, and even more so as governor.

Posted by: katomar on March 6, 2007 07:47 AM
2. katomar, it is worse than that. They have told judges they were just too busy to show up to their court. It didn't go over too well, to say the least.

I personally think it was on purpose as her royalty deliberately tried to thwart State law regarding water rights. She also moved people working on water rights into other exotic prgrams decrying lack of funding. She used the water right law to attempt to get additional funding (to no effect, BTW).

No one can tell me that as AG you wouldn't know momentous things going on affecting your work. But again, maybe she was busy fighting the tobacco companies and didn't have time for State business.

Posted by: swatter on March 6, 2007 08:33 AM
3. Let's see:

1. The policy to release felons early has been in place for 5 years, predating Christine Gregoire becoming Governor in January 2005.

2. Gregoire was Attorney General from January 1993 to December 2004, so she gets blamed for the policy being in effect while she was Attorney General.

3. If extending the blame on Gregoire is appropriate, shouldn't we place some of the blame on the current Attorney General, Rob McKenna? After all, he has been Attorney General since January 2005 and lots of felons have been released on his watch.

Posted by: Richard Pope on March 6, 2007 08:47 AM
4. If I reccall correctly, Gregoire also had big problems keeping DSHS in line when she was AG. A rash of stories about both kids and the elderly getting short shrift by the system have now all been quietly filed away.

Now to this business of releasing felons, Gregoire is most definitely trying to cover her ass on this. Who's up for some public record requests to DOC and the Governor's Office, to find out who knew what, and when?

Posted by: Patrick on March 6, 2007 09:01 AM
5. Richard: What we are saying is that it's ludicrous for Gregoire to state that she was not aware, as either AG or Governor of the early release policy. We are pointing out a pattern of her deflecting blame for screw-ups by claiming ignorance and placing the onus on someone under her supervision. No one is blaming her for the policy, and I haven't heard that Rob McKenna has claimed ignorance, as she has.

Posted by: katomar on March 6, 2007 09:05 AM
6. Governor Lib-oire has to get those votes in place early this time.

Plus she can barter with the felons to make sure suburban mail votes "fall of the truck".

Posted by: John Bailo on March 6, 2007 09:07 AM
7. 1. The Clinton pardons had a real odor to them. If there are any "journalists" out there, here are some questions that could get you a Pulizer if you care to investigate.

2. Usually in schemes, a number of shills are released, but among those released are a couple of prominent or high profile people that they hope to slide through. Was that the case in the individuals released?

3. Were there certain attorneys or law firms that had their clients released more often?

4. Were firms or individual attorneys making campaign contributions more likely to have their clients released.

Is there something more going on here than bad prison managment?

Posted by: WVH on March 6, 2007 09:17 AM
8. i bet scooter libby hopes to get out early under this type of program.

Posted by: dinesh on March 6, 2007 10:03 AM
9. 1, 2, 7 exactly. perhaps you are probing too deep & thinking too much. right wing conspiracy. how dare you ask.

wonder if this stuff will be the topic of yet more open govt public disclosure law restrictions now in play.

trouble is, no felon has personally affected HER family while on parole. unlike us commoners and (may they be remembered) some law enforcement people. if felons were released on HER town block, you'd see swift changes and a medeival punishment system history has not recently seen.

the former AG was perhaps too busy doing her job to be doing her job. forest & trees.

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on March 6, 2007 10:12 AM
10. Dinesh:

You made my point. Isn't it supposed to be equal justice under the law? In any event, my questions need to be answered. Is there any hint of pay for play? The Clinton pardons often had a big donation to the library preceeding release.

Posted by: WVH on March 6, 2007 10:14 AM
11. The Queen is divinely infallible. It is always, ALWAYS a hireling who screws the pooch. How dare you question the Queen.

Posted by: JCM on March 6, 2007 10:14 AM
12. Even worse, if she truly didn't, both as AG and Governor, know about the early release program, which I don't for a minute believe, but let's just go with that claim, why the Hell NOT? Isn't that now, and wasn't that then part of her job, to be aware of what's happening in the DOC? Either way, it just does not wash.

Posted by: katomar on March 6, 2007 10:37 AM
13. "Ms. Gregoire, will you comment on the early release of dangerous felons from our prison system, especially during your administration?"

"Eh, uh. Prisons? Why do we have prisons? Everybody is basically good. I don't recall any of this. Where is my limo and doggie?"

"Ms. Gregoire, can you comment on the consistent blatant manipulation of votes in King County?"

"Uh, King wha? I like Burger King! They have that big plastic man. You can have it your way! Hey look, did you drop this pallet of votes by?"

"Ms. Gregoire, do you have any comments regarding your theft of the election for Govenor from the twice elected Dino Rossi?"

"Dino was that doggie on the Flintstones and Rossi is that really, really good wine I get by the gallon. Wanna see a picture of my dog and his State Patrolman, err person? Did you know fishing is fish murder? Let's sing Washington my Home! Cause it is MINE. And watch out for those talk radios!"

Posted by: pbs7mm on March 6, 2007 12:04 PM
14. And the Dem's in the legislature are trying to block HB 2084 that would restrict the DOC from any further prisoner releases until July 2008 and also has accountability features such as actually returning released prisoners for any violations of their release. The Dem's are saying that the bill is unconstitutional.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on March 6, 2007 12:20 PM
15. Does this mean Scooter will be let out early?

Posted by: Jim on March 6, 2007 12:27 PM
16. TrueSoldier, what is the real reason dems are so soft on criminals??

Posted by: Michele on March 6, 2007 12:33 PM
17. Michele,

Your guess is as good as mine. Remember they are the same party pushing for restoring voting rights to felons as soon as they get out of prison. Perhaps the Dem's are trying to pad the vote in 2008.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on March 6, 2007 12:49 PM
18. Michele and TrueSoldier:

Follow the money.

Posted by: WVH on March 6, 2007 01:34 PM
19. Hi WVH--I know that term. But explain further for this situation, please.(I could be slow today :-)

Posted by: Michele on March 6, 2007 02:41 PM
20. Hey look Jim is back as Scooter! Scooter, is that what Lori calls you when you are dragging your rear end across the living room carpet? What's the matter Mr. Hughes, did someone expose yor covert operation?

Posted by: Smokie on March 6, 2007 03:10 PM
21. WVH, I whole heartedly agree with following the money as you posted earlier. It would be interesting to see what is turned up.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on March 6, 2007 04:32 PM
22. Michelle:

You are never slow, sometimes reticent. Of the sponsors of the bill, who are their contributors?
Are there groups or lobbyists supporting the position that we need to rehabilitate rather than incarcerate? Is this a question of positioning for the next election and is there a supporter bloc that needs to be appeased?

Posted by: WVH on March 6, 2007 05:07 PM
23. the attorney general's offce reviews every policy the DOC creates and has done so for many many years.

if this policy was in existance 5 years ago, somebody was not paying attention if this indeed even alarmed her.

Posted by: Gus on March 6, 2007 07:02 PM
24. If someone were on top of things, they would be using this debacle against the push to give felons the vote.

Posted by: william on March 6, 2007 07:13 PM
25. This issue along with felon voting is one point of difference between many in the faith community and secular progressives. The difference can be summarized in the the question: which is better to give someone a fish or to teach them how to catch their own fish? Personally, I don't see anything wrong with former felons voting if they have:
1. Served their sentence
2. Paid their court costs
3. Made restitution to the victim(s)
There is currently a procedure to petition a court to expunge the record and another to petition to restore voting rights. Admittedly, this requires a bit of effort. The problem is secular progressives don't, in my opinion, want to teach the "poor downtrodden" how to fish or do for themselves. They are too addicted to mining them for votes. Star Parker, a former welfare recipient, writes on this subject. In terms of early release, it is the same move them through the system mentality that is also evident in a lot of schools serving low-income children. This same education system failure along with failed families is what dooms a lot of children to adult incarceration.
There is a returning theory in the criminal justice system that incarceration doesn't work. If one reads the European papers, there is plenty of evidence that this theory won't produce a safer society. Preventing people from entering the prison system by giving them viable life choices is the best way.

Posted by: WVH on March 6, 2007 09:33 PM
26. the attorney general's offce reviews every policy the DOC creates and has done so for many many years.

They. Do. Not.
Never have. Never will.

The AG has no authority over the cabinet agencies within the Executive Branch. The office serves in an advisory role. While it's possible an AAG or team of AAGs assigned to the DOC knew about this, to flat-out state the AG reviews every DOC policy is absurd.

Listen. If Christine the Governor knew about this, that's one thing. If she doesn't take further action on it, that's another. But in our zeal to throw stones at the Queen, some of us are just making things up out of whole cloth. It does not help our cause at all.

The question shouldn't be what Gregoire knew as AG, or what Rob McKenna knows now. Instead somebody should be asking Chase Riveland, his successor and Gary Freakin' Locke how this happened.

Posted by: jimg on March 7, 2007 12:25 AM
27. jimg -- you are correct in that the AAGs who work for the AG are the ones who review policy for cabinet agencies.

must be they did not beleive that particular policy should rise to the level of attention of the then AG. in all fairness, perhaps it was discussed and rejected, due to the AG office's advisory status.

but the AG's office receives every policy and every revision.

thx for the clarification.

Posted by: Gus on March 7, 2007 06:30 AM
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