February 13, 2007
Million Dollar Bash

Finally, after flipping, flopping, and flip-flopping over weeks of wiggling, wafflling, wavering and wobbling, Mrs. Gregoire made a decision. "Tunnel option is dead, say state leaders"

"Today we need to move forward with the one option that meets safety standards and is fiscally responsible: the elevated structure."
A good call, finally. But what about that million dollar advisory ballot?
Gregoire's spokeswoman, Holly Armstrong, said that regardless of the outcome of Seattle's election, the tunnel option is dead.
Some people might think that holding this vote is a stupid waste of a million dollars. But what do they know? It's actually a bit of political genius!

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 13, 2007 10:03 PM | Email This
Comments
1. Any takers that the Rebuild never happens?
We'll end up Repairing it, which is the solution we should have chosen six years ago.

Posted by: David Sucher on February 13, 2007 10:29 PM
2. Here here Gov. Gregoire. You finally made a decision on an important issue, and at the same time stayed within the bounds of fiscal reality. And what a fantastic role model for the lost Seattle leadership to boot.

You deserve some praise. Thank you.

And please do make sure there is follow through.

Posted by: Jeff B. on February 13, 2007 11:31 PM
3. Seattle City Council President Nick Licata has shown leadership by calling King County Elections to see if there was time to cancel the Mar-13th special election.

Greg Nickels and the city council have pussy footed around the viaduct since 2002 and wasted the past 5 years.

Posted by: Green Lake Mark on February 14, 2007 12:19 AM
4. It looks like were headed toward the surface option. Unless the vote on the rebuild is overwhelmingly yes, then the City is going to fight the rebuild tooth and nail. My hunch is that the State will just give up and divert the money. There are much bigger priorities then the Viaduct. 520 for instance.

Posted by: Giffy on February 14, 2007 05:18 AM
5. I'm surprised nobody has yet floated a Joel Horn style funny financing plan, bidding the future property increase gained by the tunnel option and the sweeping panoramic views against the cost overruns that engineering task would require.

By the way, why has nobody held the Port of Seattle accountable for their promise to assist with resources but only if the tunnel option was pursued? Who works for whom here?

I credit SoundPolitics' stalwarts for making sure enough blame goes around between Gregoire and Nickels (how do you guys find the time?) but it seems to me the best option for all would be the one that increases property assessment the most and moves the most people, assuming it can be done correctly. That option would appear to be the 6 lane tunnel. It sounds like the Republican thing to do -- a major renovation to increase property value along the waterfront, and local opposition be damned.

Have the SoundPolitics folks just decided that if a Demo is in favor of it, they must automatically oppose?

Whats the SoundPolitics solution to the Viaduct? Keep blaming others for lack of leadership, while not proposing a solution of your own?

Sounds a hell of a lot like Republican criticisms of Democratic positions on Iraq.

Posted by: DaveD on February 14, 2007 06:16 AM
6. DaveD - I guess you do not have the time to be on here much. The general concensus here is to repair or rebuild the current structure. The most expensive of these two options is still half the tunnel. Nickels has already reduced the tunnel to 4 lanes due to cost. Can you imagine what the actual costs will be if capacity for the original plan was 50% more than the current plan, and not one tribal burial ground (pound of dirt) has been moved yet for the project.

Posted by: Right said Fred on February 14, 2007 06:41 AM
7. DaveD, as I opined to one of our own liberal posters, Cato, the other day, it was be brutal to him that many of the old Republican stereotypes have been blasted out of existence.

Republicans, contrary to the spending in DC for the past few years, are fiscally conservative and are the party of the people.

As for content, Stefan, what if the advisory ballot passes in favor of the tunnel? Then, it will look like Dime and company are geniouses; how could the State not fund the tunnel in that case?

Posted by: swatter on February 14, 2007 07:14 AM
8. Whats the SoundPolitics solution to the Viaduct? Keep blaming others for lack of leadership, while not proposing a solution of your own?

Well since you asked, my personal favorite solution is the Elliott Bay Bridge, but the state has dismissed that idea essentially because it's too different. (pdf)

Posted by: The Tim on February 14, 2007 08:23 AM
9. TheTim, where did you find that quote from one of our trolls?

No solution? No solution?!!!!! What about a repair option?

The repair option should also be the fave of the bicycle for transportation crowd, too. Being cheaper, it will also be the easiest to get rid of if their Armageddon is realized- you know, global warming, no oil, etc.

Posted by: swatter on February 14, 2007 09:07 AM
10. How about an underground basketball arena on the waterfront?

Posted by: chew2 on February 14, 2007 09:39 AM
11. swatter - TheTims quote came from DaveD at #5

Posted by: Right said Fred on February 14, 2007 09:42 AM
12. Got it Fred. Notice his e-mail address as certaindoom; it sure tells you where he is coming from.

Posted by: swatter on February 14, 2007 10:03 AM
13. TO: David @ 1

Why the hell would you repair something that was not build to last this long anyway? The thing is a big standing concrete slab that was made in the era when concrete was used for everything. There are much better uses for the waterfront than repairing big ugly concrete slab.

Tear it down and don't rebuild.

Posted by: Cato on February 14, 2007 10:11 AM
14. My point exactly Cato. Why repair something that doesn't need a whole lot of repair? The repair option is to reinforce the current structure to withstand the doomsday earthquake scenario.

Posted by: swatter on February 14, 2007 10:16 AM
15. Christine's Leap: the mega rebuild that will cost lessmore and look betterworse. Brought to you from Washington State Miniplenty.

Posted by: bendervish on February 14, 2007 10:50 AM
16. > Republicans, contrary to the spending in DC for the past few years, are fiscally conservative and are the party of the people.

Oh yeah, boy the GOP has definitely spent the last couple of years proving they are the party of fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: Blah Blah on February 14, 2007 11:55 AM
17. Is it my imagination or does the LARGER rebuild also give Seqttle a new Seawall?

If so, the plot thickens.

Posted by: Jack Burton on February 14, 2007 01:55 PM
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