February 13, 2007
Is Lornet Turnbull Prejudiced?

After reading this Seattle Times article, James Taranto thinks the answer is obvious.

So when "conservative Christians" complain of religious discrimination, it's because they are "more provocative," "less tolerant" and "more emboldened." When Muslims do it--and they do it more--their motives don't even need to be investigated.  "Not surprisingly" tells you all you need to know.

It seems obvious to us that both Turnbull and [Seattle University professor Flora Wilson] Bridges are prejudiced against Christians, or at least against "conservative" ones.  It isn't hard to imagine that some employers are, too.

For what it's worth, I had exactly the same reaction to the article that Taranto did.

If you agree with Taranto, you may want to send an email to the senior vice president for news at the Seattle Times, Michael R. Fancher.  His email address is: mfancher@seattletimes.com.   And I am sure that I don't have to remind more than a few that civil emails are likely to have more impact.

(For earlier examples of problematic Turnbull articles see here, here, and here.  And I suspect I could find more with a little effort.)

Posted by Jim Miller at February 13, 2007 01:11 PM | Email This
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1. "In another case, the EEOC sued Ellensburg restaurant Starlight Lounge last year on behalf of Angela Harper, a black Muslim woman who wore a hijab, the traditional Muslim head scarf. She said she was denied a promotion to lounge server because, she was told, she didn't fit the "hot white girl" image the restaurant sought for those jobs."

If she were told she needs to work in the lounge she would have sued for making her serve alcohol, which is insensitive as Muslims can't. Such hog-wash!

Posted by: Right said Fred on February 13, 2007 01:44 PM
2. Oh absolutely. The left values race, religion, culture, etc. and anything else that they can exploit, for its emotional weight and leverage. Race, religion, culture, etc. thus take on different value to the left depending on their usefulness to the task at hand, and most emphatically on their attributes. This is just plain racism. Attributes first, merits second or maybe even later.

And its quite interesting to read such articles and peer into the mental caves where folks like Turnbull and Bridges must live. They must be insulating themselves from reality to come up with the world view that Christians are the problem, as opposed to the discrimination. Or that preferential racism is OK pending the approved color palette.

It's those on the left that claim to be the staunchest supporters of the ideas of Dr. MLK, that are in fact taking us rapidly further from the merit based world he envisioned.

Because in a competitive ideological marketplace, merit might ferret out many of the bad ideas on which the left have staked their claims.

Posted by: Jeff B. on February 13, 2007 01:56 PM
3. For a long time Islam has been the Anti-Christian (and in some cases, Anti-White)religion of choice for the left.

They haven't figured out what the deal is with that religion.

This both sad and dangerous.

Don't start in with the "Not all of Islam" rants
because you know EXACTLY of what I speak.

Posted by: Jack Burton on February 13, 2007 02:43 PM
4. In the context that Turnbull appears to accept the prejudice of Bridges against Christians, where she appears to state the tensions as a fact and not simply a possibility, she may be prejudiced herself. But I'd tend to give her the benefit of the doubt unless there is more evidence that shows that she herself believes the prejudice voiced by Bridges against Christians.

As for the "not surprisingly" comment, I think Taranto overreacts to it. I don't find it surprising that in a post-9/11 America that there is an upturn in discrimination charges made by Muslims, or even perceived discrimination against Muslims. But at the same time, in this post-9/11 America, during a time of war against Islamic fundamentalists, I'd be surprised if there wasn't.

Posted by: MJC on February 13, 2007 03:25 PM
5. The title of Turnbull's silly story should have been "Christian Tolerance Wearing Thin" with the subtitle "Muslims Find Lawsuits a Lucrative Fundraising Tool."

Turnbull is obviously trying to build on the guest commentary by "professional futurist" (a.k.a. false prophet) Glen Hiemstra that ran in the Times last weekend. In his commentary, Hiemstra (along with some naive pastor that he co-opted to trick believers into reading the commentary) tried to paint the U.S. as being on the verge of a religious war due to intolerance, primarily of Islam. The fact that the Times ran Turnbull's piece on page one above the fold exposes their agenda as well.

A lot of weird sh*t going on in the print MSM these days. They must really believe in EPIC 2014.


Posted by: Organization Man on February 13, 2007 06:15 PM
6. P.S. No need to e-mail Fancher--just post your comments here. You can rest assured SP has been bookmarked by, and is required reading for the local MSM.

Posted by: Organization Man on February 13, 2007 06:32 PM
7. 1. E-mail Francher

2. All alums of SU should e-mail the alumni office. I conitnually ask the question of the alumni office, are you a Christian uniniversity.
We can trade reponses.

Posted by: WVH on February 13, 2007 09:24 PM
8. I owe an apology to every Episcopalian that I ever called a Godless bunch of heathens. I said this after a report that one of the Bishops said they weren't sure if they even believed in God.
Professor Bridges:

Wilson Bridges, Flora
Associate Professor
School of Theology & Ministry
fwb@seattleu.edu

The school of theology, no less. Mea Culpa.
I guess that I am right to continually ask if SU is a Christian university.

Posted by: WVH on February 14, 2007 09:01 AM
9. I'm usually careful tossing off accusations of prejudice and the like, but here it seems right. And you should have heard the local NPR stations' treatment of the story. I'm not kidding: They did little else but cite the Seattle U professor who apparently claimed that reports have increased because conservative have become more aggressive in trying to spread their faith. NPR managed to strip out what little nuance existed in the original Trumball report. And our leftwing, NPR listening neighbors across the Sound no doubt nodded their heads in agreement.

Pretty chilling.

Posted by: DJ on February 14, 2007 11:05 AM
10. Wow. "Not surprisingly" indeed. You couldn't ask for a clearer window into the PC-left brain than that. They assume, of course, that all those complaints are legitimate.

Posted by: brett on February 14, 2007 03:30 PM
11. And, by the way, I can tell you from personal experience that 99.9% of those discrimination complaints are completely bogus.

Posted by: brett on February 14, 2007 03:33 PM
12. Turnbull's historical writing style and topics of choice have always leaned left with gaping holes in the conservative and self-responsibility facets of any story. Illegal alien favoritism, victims a-plenty, poor b-stards who are always on the wrong end of the stick, & always due to someone else's fault.

Anyone following her work knows this. Consider the source. Consider the employer's tilt and agenda. Enough said. PI Light.

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on February 14, 2007 08:41 PM
13. Jimmie and Brett:

1. Brett: What are you talking about? Which discrimination claims and how accurate is your stat for whatever claims you are talking about?

2. Jimmie:
It is not just a PI columnist, it is the fact that the university system, including the schools of theology are run by secular progressives. Keep in mind that this professor is at a Catholic university. If one looks at the common ground between Catholics and evangelicals:
a. respect for life issues
b. promotion of a two parent heterosexual family
c. Responsible parenting
Then is this professor who works at a Catholic university claiming that Catholics are part of the problem as well because they probably don't support her agenda?
Recently, there was a thread about the Walker-Ames lectures. Angela Davis, that tired old re-tread from the days of the revolution, was invited. Why not some one like Star Parker or John Mc Whorter or Sowell? Secular progressives now control the universities and that eventually leads to control of the society. The UN recently completed a report about the plight of children in Britain. I have posted here often about the plight of Blacks. It matters who is teaching in universities. If it were just about buying a rag, all people have to do is stop buying it. The article on British kids:
Lives of Brit kids

Betrayal of a generation
Family breakdown, drink, drugs, teenage sex and fear of violence have
left British children the worst off in the world's 21 richest nations.
Full Story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=436028&in_page_id=1770

14 February 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/

Posted by: WVH on February 14, 2007 10:10 PM
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