February 10, 2007
Million Dollar Bash

More reasons why Mrs. Gregoire's million dollar advisory ballot on the Viaduct replacement options might not be taken seriously by state officials. Today's Seattle Times reports "No time to study tunnel idea, panel says of its dissolution"

A state-appointed panel of outside experts, called into Seattle this week to study a four-lane Alaskan Way tunnel and other highway options along the waterfront, dissolved itself Friday, saying there's not enough time to do the job right.
State officials will inevitably use this as an excuse to dismiss a pro-tunnel vote as uninformed. So what purpose is served by spending the million dollars on the special election?

A member of the outside review panel also threw cold water on a trial balloon presumably originating in Ron Sims' office:

Forbes said he saw no information about a rumored four-lane "Elevated Lite."

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 10, 2007 05:15 PM | Email This
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1. The "planning" we're seeing going on for this one short stretch of highway is a comedy of errors. Plus, the vote will be completely pointless.

This shows why we need a Regional Transportation Commission. One that can say "no" to some megaproject proposals. One that can prioritize (e.g. trains vs. tunnel vs. buses vs. I-405 widening vs. 520 bridge rebuild). One that is accountable to voters. The existing alphabet soup of agencies and separate local fiefdoms is a dysfunctional mess.

Posted by: disgusted on February 10, 2007 05:26 PM
2. "This shows why we need a Regional Transportation Commission. One that can say "no" to some megaproject proposals."

The irony is that you're more likely to get all of the megaprojects, and fewer improvements to the roadways in your neighborhood, if you take away some element of control for project spending via local 'fiefdoms' -- like the mayor and city council of your city, etc. If you are thinking that your proposal is going to rid the process of the 'un-elected' bureaucrats (i.e., people who actually have educational backgrounds, professional credentials and experience in, say, ENGINEERING, or FINANCE, or PLANNING....), keep thinking that.

Posted by: FT on February 11, 2007 06:50 AM
3. FT: The megaprojects are not sponsored at the city level. They are planned by appointee boards: Sound Transit and RTID. Those entities are structured, by statute, to NOT be able to choose how to best spend transportation dollars to benefit the most people or businesses in the region, how to tax or toll most fairly, etc. It is not staff with engineering experience that is the problem, it is the inability of the current ad hoc "system" to effectively prioritize among megaproject proposals (look at the viaduct catfights) and raise funds in an equitable way (the ONLY thing ST will do in Nov. is try like hell to get voters to buy off on a huge new sales tax increase for an indefinite number of decades, for trains). Nobody has any confidence that transportation planning in its present form around here can lead to anything close to an appropriate allocation of revenue burdens and spending so as to benefit the most at the lowest cost.

Plus, the current system by definition can not use input from the public to guide it. "Fiefdoms," as you put it, like ST are impervious to the will of the people and changing circumstances that are extremely meaningful to people. It is governed by political appointees (Ron Sims appoints something like 12 of the eighteen seats). The status quo is a broken mess.

The "improvements in roadways in the neighborhood" in Seattle now are going to happen because of a ballot measure where we voted to impose large additional property taxes last November. That should have been dealt with by general funds. But Nickels didn't plan right, and he didn't guide the City Council in the right direction. You want him (on ST's board since the beginning, acting like a drama queen on the viaduct issue, etc.) taking a lead on transportation planning for the future? I sure don't. A new board, largely elected, would take the existing crop of proven transportation incompetents out of the planning loop. Good riddence to 'em!

Posted by: Aldus Buxley on February 11, 2007 07:56 AM
4. Sent to all legilators, Jan 28, 2007
Two responces.

First the 5 cents gas increase then the 9 1/2 cent gas tax was past October 2005 the Washington State Department of Transportation says $3 billion of the tax's revenue would go toward easing choke points and congestion "We want to address congestion that affects real drivers, and the first thing we have to do is attack bottlenecks and choke points," MacDonald said. "Those who drive know what aggravates their commutes. There's no question we're attacking congestion."

Today it seams the money is being spent on continual studies on what to do since the voters past the gas tax. Yet the state Department of Transportation reported their study and on Friday January 26, 2007issued its latest summary of average commuting travel times on area freeways, based on data taken from 2004 to 2006. How much did this cost?

Lets see some of things you are planning to do to fix the choke points and congestion as promised buy MacDonald and his crew.

q Highway 167 to Interstate 405 added a $380 million high-occupancy-vehicle ramp project in Renton

q Aurora Avenue North in Shoreline build bus lanes

q Mercer Street: Rebuild for two-way travel, pedestrian use, and better links to Aurora Avenue North, $150 million.

q South Lander Street: Overpasses to move container trucks and other traffic over railroad tracks, $70 million.

q Spokane Street Viaduct: Transit ramps to Sodo bus way, wider lanes, safety improvements, $130 million.

q Interstate 5 bus ramps: Ramps from HOV lanes to Sodo, for faster express-bus travel, $100 million.

q Aurora Avenue North New lanes in Shoreline for bus rapid transit and business access, $40 million.

These projects' and several more are will NOT fix the choke points and congestion as promised buy MacDonald. We need roads.

The biggest joke is the viaduct fighting between the State and Seattle. How much money has been wasted on studies while the cost keeps growing.

This is a State Highway that needs replacing according to the State so why didn't the State start moving forward on the replacement after the gas tax was past by the voters. The State should have built a eight lane highway with NO EXITS OR INTRANCES through Seattle area.

I don't think the voters are going to give anymore, between now and November when you allow the Washington State Department of Transportation spend millions of dollars' in study panels, mail outs ,TV time and of course photo opps.

When the HOT LANES passed they started the project.?????

These decisions that are being made by the Washington State Department of Transportation is not doing anything to fix the choke points and congestion and will not do anything until after November 2007.

The legislature has to take control of the problem, roll some heads and make some changes to get the roads fixed.

George

Posted by: George on February 11, 2007 09:31 AM
5. Lack of leadership on this issue is becoming the clear issue on this, not a lack of tax revenues.

The meetings keep happening, the engineers keep planning, and nothing gets built.

This is truely DOT perpetual motion, a condition in which an object continues to move indefinitely without being driven by an external source of funds.

Perpetual Missed Motion

Posted by: GS on February 11, 2007 10:14 AM
6. Calling Las Vegas, What are the odds that if the four lane plan is approved, two of them will be HOV lanes?

Posted by: PC on February 11, 2007 12:20 PM
7. This is re: George's post. There's a statute that was passed in the 2005 session that says if there is no "RTID" approved by voters by the end of 2007 that the gas tax increase of 9.5 cents must be reallocated. That'd be a good thing. Most should be reallocated to the project on the horizon with the greatest state-wide significance: the Evergreen Point Floating Bridge rebuild. Shoot RTID down, and most of that money would go where everybody thinks it should go.

Posted by: oscar p. on February 11, 2007 04:57 PM
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