1. I thought Cheney was the real President, so its Cheney's fault.

Posted by: WVH on December 19, 2006 10:40 AM

2. Now, after the law suit is settled, they'll have to change the Name "Seattle" to "KateFlemington."

Her estate will also own Seattle Center (Renamed "Flemington Center") as well as the Seattle Sonics (Renamed "Flemington Sonics.")

Hizonner should be held personally liable for this incompetence, just like he'd get all the credit if things went well....

Posted by: Hinton (Former Seattleite) on December 19, 2006 11:09 AM

3. This is just going to encourage the politicians to ask for even more special levies to pay for something that should already be part of the budget. The next time these donkeys want to fund stadiums, crappy art, and tranportation boondoggles they should first prove that basic needs such as drain maintenance and sufficient police staffing are taken care of.

I think this tragedy is especially unfortunate because Ms. Fleming made the decision to save audio equipment from the rapidly rising water. I used to work in laboratories with very expensive equipment and I always told my assistants that in case of emergency their job was to get out. Equipment can be replaced; people cannot. My condolences to Ms. Fleming's family and friends.

Posted by: Burdabee on December 19, 2006 11:15 AM

4. "it's for the clildren" will morph into "it's for the storm drains"
hinton--tastefully insensitive but sadly true. laywer-harpies circling the skies now. settlement cauldron at the boil.

anybody checking the city work crew records/responsibilities for that section of street? oops, shredded by now?

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on December 19, 2006 11:18 AM

5. Are you sure Karl Rove didn't help Bush "off" this woman, as well?

Posted by: Me on December 19, 2006 11:19 AM

6. Raise the rain tax immediately!

Posted by: Kitsap Voter on December 19, 2006 11:26 AM

7. Where was FEMA?

Posted by: Ken on December 19, 2006 11:40 AM

8. Not only where was FEMA, but where was Sean Penn in his little leaky boat and gun? I'll be he could have shot a hole through the wall and saved her!!!

Posted by: katomar on December 19, 2006 12:16 PM

9. Bush? Cheney? Rove? Oh you stupid, stupid rubes.

It was the Illuminati.

Posted by: G Jiggy on December 19, 2006 12:21 PM

10. Illuminati are no match for Hillary Clinton...she had Flemington taken out so the "gay agenda" doesn't become an issue in the 2008 election.

Posted by: Blah Blah on December 19, 2006 12:31 PM

11. Seriously, I feel bad that Ms. Fleming lost her life because of broken, faulty government. These are the kinds of things (cleaning storm drains, general infrastructure maintenance, litter pick-up, etc.) that our tax dollars used to pay for. At some point in the past, transfer payments to favored political groups (drunks, homeless, lesbian advocacy, whatever) became more important than keeping the infrastructure safe for general citizens. As we roll along, more and more of the things that the majority of the tax payers expect to be done by government become less and less as transfer payments become larger and larger.

And now its killing people.

It's funny that nobody seems to mind. Your tax dollars hard at work.

Posted by: G Jiggy on December 19, 2006 12:33 PM

12. And when will it hit the main news outlets that electrical crews (power restoration) sent in from far away states like Nebraska were turned away when it was discovered the workers were non-union.

There is a WA state law that prevents non-union line-people (PC) from pitching in under any circumstances.

Let's be sure not to inform the individuals (young, old, infirm) who remain without power just who our State gov't is looking out for.

Posted by: Cardio Guy on December 19, 2006 02:42 PM

13. So where is the accountability for King Ron Sims allowing 60 million gallons of raw sewerage being dumped into Puget Sound last Thursday?

So much for all of his "environmental" ethics and wagging finger at President Bush on issues such as global warming, huh?

Posted by: sendpoly on December 19, 2006 02:49 PM

14. Did I miss something. Why are the utility companies hiring sub contractors and getting rid of their union employees? Union people don't work for 15.00 an hour and no benefits. These subcontractors only hire slaves to work for them.

Posted by: Bob on December 19, 2006 02:57 PM

15. Well, at least this time, we are assured it's not Bill Clinton. Hillary????

Posted by: fRed on December 19, 2006 02:59 PM

16. So how long after the mourning period will the wrongful death lawsuit be filed? I'll put the over/under at 3 months.

It's a shame that she died. Same with the others who died as a result of misuse of generators or grills. But anyone who tries to sue over it should be promptly shown the door.

Here's a news flash for Fleming's partner. Basements flood during storms. Might be a good idea to get valuable things out of a basement prior to a storm hitting. It's not as if there was not ample warning about this storm.

Posted by: Palouse on December 19, 2006 04:18 PM

17. anybody up for diverting 100% of the feel-good diversity dept budget money, 1% for art, & other silly departments like sister cities into street/sewer budgets? i would. oops--sorry--potties/sewerd are practical, not sexy.

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on December 19, 2006 04:41 PM

18. it is true -- the city infrastructure is deteriorating for years of neglect by the Democratic machine --

Posted by: Lew on December 19, 2006 05:29 PM

19. Nice to know you don't give a rip about the poor woman who died. Typical Compassionless CON-servative.

No mention of the dozens who died today on unsafe government-run highways either. Hmmmm. But that's a highway, sacred cow of CON-servatives.

Posted by: Darrin on December 19, 2006 05:29 PM

20. Hey Darrin, you liberal Demorats can never get the simplest concept straight. Think it through.

People drive on the highways every day, willing to accept the known risk, weighing it against the importance of what must be done using it. Ms. Fleming didn't get a choice. She was drowned by city in the one place most people seek refuge and feel safe. Their home. The city, by their own neglect, made her home the killing field.

Posted by: G Jiggy on December 19, 2006 05:43 PM

21. Hey Darrin--how do you feel about the 25,000 babies who died just last week by being ripped and torn to pieces in abortion? What did they ever do to deserve such a horrifying fate? Do you "give a rip" about the over one million babies who were killed in abortions last year? Is it only everyone else who's compassionless? You judge others, accusing them of being compassion-less, yet I didn't hear you express concern for these children who were sliced and diced (and that's no exaggeration) out of an earthly life in your rant.

Posted by: Misty on December 19, 2006 06:14 PM

22. An aside, did anyone notify the local government of this problem before it occurred ? If not, its not really incompetence if noone let the municipality know about it.

Now, if someone phoned in the complaint or problem and it wasn't dealt with in a timely manner, then it is negligance and incompetence and a lawsuit should result. One could also say that if this applies, it was Mayor Nickels' fault.

Posted by: KS on December 19, 2006 07:51 PM

23. Darrin, you're a dumbsh*t. Go back to Goldstein's House O' Dumbsh*ts, where your abject stupidity won't stick out like a crack-whore in a Campfire Girl Jamboree.

Posted by: ERNurse on December 19, 2006 09:07 PM

24. Negligence on part of Nickels, city?

what if they stripped funding of necesary services, ignoring warnings that things needed repairing?

Might fail the legal test, but since Dems seem good at blaming gov't for not funding things; maybe the Dems here ignored necessary items and are thus "guilty"

Posted by: righton on December 19, 2006 09:40 PM

25. What more is it going to take to hold the City of Seattle accountable to its citizens in providing basic safety and services? Safety and services that come long before items such as, but not limited to, those listed in preceding posts.

The P.I. mustn't relent in obtaining "records regarding the East Madison Street drains, but Andy Ryan, spokesman for Seattle Public Utilities, said utility officials wouldn't comment or release the records until they have reviewed them."

If the P.I. doesn't succeed then the first lawyers to become involved in this matter should be from the U.S. Attorney's Office - using a grand jury to ask questions about those records - along with other questions. Maybe a Federal grand jury should be asking now - especially with the "review" of records by utility officials.

When the wrongful death suit comes, as it should, hopefully the plaintiff's attorneys won't settle and the City of Seattle will have to appear in open court and testify - under oath.

Posted by: Tyler Durden on December 19, 2006 10:21 PM

26. Darrin 19--
most if not all here do care about the tragic loss of Ms. Fleming, but life is not 100% safe. look up Nat. Safety Council facts about the ways people accidently die. it's never a picnic, but a sad fact of modern life. falls, infant drownings, etc.

i still blame the city somewhat for all the "priority" or "needed" spending on silly art, diversity and fluff programs before ensuring many basic city services and workings are in some semblance of order. streets, sewers and the like are necessities & priorities. art sculpture parks, aid to illegal aliens and drinking-permitted free bum apartments are not.

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on December 19, 2006 10:27 PM

27. first let's get bush to admit responsibility for iraq, then we can nail him for the storm drain.

Posted by: dinesh on December 19, 2006 11:20 PM

28. Dinesh- read post # 23. Insert your name.

Posted by: ERNurse on December 20, 2006 01:36 AM

29. Even with an UNclogged drain in our cul-de-sac the extremely heavy rains late Thursday afternoon when this happened just overwhelmed our cul-de-sac and flooded it up to the curb completely, according to my daughter, who saw it all. It's never been like that before. After the rain stopped, the cul-de-sac quickly drained. So there was a heck of a lot of water floating around there, even for a functional drain. And if this drain in Seattle was defective, I think these people SHOULD sue.

Heck, these same Seattle people who told us eastsiders we can't touch 2/3 of our acreage due to flooding and various other assortment of reasons CAN'T EVEN KEEP THEIR OWN DRAINS FUNCTIONAL. And someone was killed because of it. Where do they get off telling the rest of us what to do if they won't keep their own city's nest functional??

Posted by: Misty on December 20, 2006 02:53 AM

30. Used to be guns vs butter

In seattle its: necessary utilities vs condom lessons/diversity/transgendered toilets

Posted by: righton on December 20, 2006 08:02 AM

31. Darrin, you moron.

A storm drain SHOULD NOT be overflowing like that. If the area had problems, they should have been fixed. YOUR ILK PREVENTED THAT, BITCH!

Darrin, please just stick a gun in your mouth and fire. You'll do the world a favor.

Posted by: Sakaki on December 20, 2006 10:45 AM

32. What this has not become a conspiricy against a lesbian? ahh come on you know that the nanny refused to clean the drain because the nanny knew that this would happen and silence yet another member of hte rainbow clan.

Posted by: Monroe on December 21, 2006 10:29 AM

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