November 29, 2006
Record low temperatures set

The P-I's weather blog reports that record low temperatures were set today:

Sea-Tac Airport hit 18 degrees around 4 a.m., breaking the record of 22 degrees. That was set in 1975.
It's tempting to use this opportunity to make fun of the global warming scaremongers, but that would be premature. Maybe Ron Sims' initiative to reverse global warming is already working!

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at November 29, 2006 05:38 PM | Email This
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1. This is all AlGore's doing. He is against global warming... therefore .... Al Gore wants a new Ice Age!

Posted by: ljm on November 29, 2006 06:30 PM
2. But it is "consistent" with global warming theory!

Posted by: deadwood on November 29, 2006 06:35 PM
3. Yeh... Where's ole E Al Gore in his private jet, two 8k+ houses sucking massive heat, Limo's galore....He must be recreating the F'n Internet again..........Taxing it this time I am sure for his continual energy sucking future.

Hope he's enjoying his wonderful massive Guvmunt pension and healh benefits, which no American except Guvmunt Honcho's get anymore..

Time for another Movie Al

"The Incoherent Truth about Global Cooling"

This I gotta watch.................

PS VETO is an Italian friend of mine, who doesn't like your Pork.


Posted by: GS on November 29, 2006 06:39 PM
4. Darn that global warming! It wouldn't have been so cold if it hadn't been for that darn global warming!
(Yes, I KNOW that made no sense, but no less than some of that silly talk we get from the global-warming alarmists who can't decide from decade to decade whether we're headed for an ice age or the complete opposite. ) Heaven forbid that the earth's temp should fluctuate for stretches at a time!

Posted by: Misty on November 29, 2006 06:52 PM
5. Yep, you're right Shark, all those thousands of scientists are wrong and so is the tons of data documenting the abrupt rise of surface temperatures on our planet. This proves it's all a pile of crap. Seattle has record low temps so everything else is out the window. Thanks for setting us all straight. What would we do without a shill like you.

Posted by: Unkl Witz on November 29, 2006 07:26 PM
6. Witz,

Shhh... we want Shark and the rest of them to keep it up so we can run them into the ground in a few more elections.

Give old Mr.Sharkansky the rope, he'll hang himself!

Posted by: me on November 29, 2006 07:33 PM
7. What we have here is obviously the effect of some other man-made pollutant throwing particles into the atmosphere "masking" global warming. This actually makes the "real" global warming problem worse than we thought! There's only one thing to do. Make more smoke to reflect more sunlight and keep things cool until we can reverse the "real" cause of global warming... excess Co2.

Posted by: Scott C on November 29, 2006 07:36 PM
8. I'm so glad I moved here from Texas, where it's nice and balmy from the global warming. This crazy global warming has got me thinking I should trade in my V8 4WD Explorer for a Prius or something, so I can be like these other idiots spinning around on the hills.

Hey Witz, there are a lot of other scientists who DO NOT agree with the global warming conspiracy theorists, and they're victims of harassment and blackballed in the scientific community for thinking differently. I don't see you libs screaming FREEDOM OF SPEECH! FREEDOM OF SPEECH! No, "Freedom for me, but not for thee," that is the liberal way. It's called a theory for a reason. Also, don't you think it's odd that hmmm...the unusually high sun surface temperatures the past few years may have something to do with the Earth's surface temperature? No, that would make too much sense.

Posted by: Spaceboy on November 29, 2006 08:26 PM
9. Hey Spaceboy:

It's the idiots like you from Texas who think you know how to drive in inclement weather just because you're in a 4WD with a V8. It's always you guys in the ditch, or crossways in the road that keeps the rest of us from getting anywhere when we get a dab of snow.

Keep telling yourself about all those scientists who dispute global warming. Truth is most of them are a figment of your imaginattion. The overwhelming majority of the scientific community agree global warming is a fact.

For that matter, keep telling yourself how well things are going in Iraq, and the bad news is just the liberal bias of the mainstream media, trying to discredit the Bush Administration.

You are only fooling yourself.

Posted by: Unkl Witz on November 29, 2006 08:41 PM
10. I live 2 miles from work so that I don't have to worry about snow, idiots and expensive gas. See, it's all about personal responsibility.

Posted by: me on November 29, 2006 09:25 PM
11. Witz says "It's the idiots like you from Texas..."

Witz, why is that you liberals always resort to name calling when someone does not agree with you? Spaceboy didn't feel the need to call you an idiot.

Posted by: malamute on November 29, 2006 09:32 PM
12. What about the hurricanes the SE was supposed to get this year; like 10 big ones, instead got zero!

Posted by: righton on November 29, 2006 09:40 PM
13. Always nice to hear from the "rational" folks like Unkl who promote the "concensus" of scientists whose research depends on the perpetuation of the fraud called "global warming theory".

Oh, yeah Unkl, what is it exactly about Bush that ruined your life?

Posted by: deadwood on November 29, 2006 09:43 PM
14. Dear Unkl Wizz:

You talk tough from the comfortable confines of your keyboard. Perhaps you would care to take this tone w/me in person. I hereby offer you the opportunity to get up in my grill and tell me what a delusional, self-righteous punk I am. If you don't accept my invitation then you're nothing but a FREAKING CRYBABY COWARD.
P.S. Bring that quivering tub of Crisco, Ivan with you. He's a tough guy too.

Posted by: YourLifeIsMyFault on November 29, 2006 10:34 PM
15. Trying to get back to Stefan's initiation of this thread:

Record low temp of PLUS 18 degrees F ??...
Wimps.

I grew up in northern North Dakota, where (with some accuracy) we used to say there was nothing between us and the north pole except a barbed wire fence: In mid-winter MINUS 18 degress F at night would be considered not too bad. I still remember what minus 40-45 degrees F feels like; even 50 below a couple times. People who have never been outside in below-zero weather have NO IDEA how cold -40 feels (admit I don't miss that much).

It was -50 degrees F in the upper Methow Valley once (late 60s, IIRC). But that was pretty much a one-time abberation; at least since modern record-keeping started.

Posted by: Methow Ken on November 30, 2006 12:05 AM
16. So Unkl & Me.

Can you explain WHY it's so cold and so much rain & snow?

Let me guess. Mr PHD Gore knows it all.

Fools.

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on November 30, 2006 06:42 AM
17. Unkl Witz - You are absolutely correct, the vast majority of scientists do believe that global warming is real. What they don't agree on is what is causing the warming trend. While most agree that greenhouse gasses have some limited effect on the warming trend - the vast majority do not believe that greenhouse gasses are the major cause nor do the majority believe that a reduction in greenhouse gasses will have any notible effect on the warming trend. The great disparity in the computer models used to measure and predict warming trends is what causes the rift and since the models are just that and no one knows whose model is correct, no one really knows whether or not "man caused" global warming is a reality.

Kind of reminds me of a news report I heard just this morning on KOMO radio. Remember how all the hurricane "experts" predicted a major increase in the number of severe hurricanes that were going to hit the US this past season? Caused, as I'm sure you will recall, by global warming? The spokesman related that all the "experts" agreed that there would be lots more really bad hurricanes but he guessed that their computer model for the prediction must have been wrong. He said something about weather patterns and predictions being an inexact science.

You might want to try and keep that in mind.

Posted by: Jay on November 30, 2006 07:15 AM
18. Witz,

I am going to post this series of links AGAIN! Read them (if you can).

The largest influences on climate are extraterrestrial and therefore outside man's influence.

Global climate cycles:
Daily rotation, day to night.
Earth annual orbit, seasons.
I don't think these two need a link.
The following cycles that effect climate are extraterrestrial influences, the sun and orbital effects.
Sunspot 11 year cycle
Solar Variations
Solar 1100 year cycle
Milankovitch 21,000 year cycle
Orbital influences
The Maunder Minimum


I am sure somehow Ron Sims and Mayor Nickels can alter the solar and orbital cycles.

Here just a few of the climate cycles that only recently have been identified.
The Pacific Decadal Oscillation El Nino Southern Oscillation
North Atlantic Oscillation
Volcanic cycles

In other words there are dozens if not hundreds of known climate oscillations on time scales of hours, day to night, to 10's of millennia. How many oscillations have we not discovered because we only have direct recorded scientific weather data of less than 300 years. We have the geological record, but how many variables are not geologically apparent.

What happens when many of the peaks of these cycles occur at the same time?

Global Warming!

None of the cycles are attributable or affected by humans.
We are coming out of a period of "mild" weather, or not many of the cycles peaks or valleys coincided. The Puget Sound area has been both glaciated and tropical at various times in geological history.

We only understand a fraction of the climatic cycles, so to jump to the conclusion that humans cause global warming is contrary to the entire scientific method, and sheer idiocy.

Al Gore and Global warming nuts are not looking for scientific truths, they seek POLITICAL power by pushing altering the political structure, not the climate.

Posted by: JCM on November 30, 2006 08:55 AM
19. JCM: It's not just political - it's moneym too. Environmental regulations is big business. Environmental activism is big business. Lots of people lucratively employed in both endeavors, lots of money changing hands, especially from fund raising. Not only are they not looking for scientific truths, they are suppressing them in order to protect the money flow.

Posted by: katomar on November 30, 2006 09:19 AM
20. Katomar,

Yeah! Just look at the market for "Carbon Credits."

3 Billion and rising, just trading "Carbon Credits."

Posted by: JCM on November 30, 2006 09:25 AM
21. Stefan,

Am I having a browser problem or is it a problem with your server? The way your original posting appears on my screen it indicates you led into a link to KingRon's Kyoto Kolumn. The one where he pats himself on the back for land use controls and $$$ projects in the name of global warming.

Since I can't pull up the global warming bashing you reportedly committed should I switch to Firefox?

Posted by: Tyler Durden on November 30, 2006 11:12 AM
22. No global warming?
I guess all those glaciers are busy rebuilding themselves and the deserts are receding as well. What a bunch of mypopic fools.
My basement was at 75 degrees the other day, obviously that means global warming.
Global warming means the globe, not your neighborhood. But instead of actually going and seeing the movie which most of you didn't, you'd rather tear down the man. Let's not face the facts that maybe human industrial growth has had some sort of effect on this planet (that's what 99% of the scientists, not paid for by Exxon are saying) in the past 100 years. Even our only partner in the coalition of the willing (England) has dared to disagree with the Bushies on this.
Just another case of this administration and the fools that follow them not understanding we are part of world community and deciding to go it alone again. So instead of wanting to become good global citizens. You'd rather fight for Laisse fare capitalism and continued destruction of the commons. Which not only hurts the middle class, but the planet as a whole.

Posted by: danw on November 30, 2006 11:15 AM
23. Oh,Lordy! Danw's feet are on fire from his basement. And all this time, I thought it was his hair!

Posted by: katomar on November 30, 2006 11:32 AM
24. Sometimes life will throw lemons your way...in this case... make-frozen lemonade!

Posted by: Pacific Grove Phlash on November 30, 2006 11:46 AM
25. The United States has the most environmentally regulated business climate of any country that did or didn't sign onto Kyoto. The problem is not unfettered capitalism. It's unfettered third world poverty brought about by repressive socialist or communist governments. Those poor people are burning exotic hardwoods which would bring hundreds of dollars per board foot just to stay warm. Capitalism is the shining light illuminating the need to stop polluting the world, global warming or not. We should be thankful we live in a country where we can spend billions of dollars on environmental controls - on eveything from car emmissions to chemical scrubbers in industrial tank-lines, and still make enough profit to pay union wages and support stock growth. You "capitalism haters" give away your real goal, imposing "global socialism", when you blame "global warming" on capitalism. Conservatives are not against the environment. They are against causing the world economic crisis Kyoto would bring about, under the guise of a little-understood warming cycle. Someone explain why the Planet Mars is also sharing a similar and concurrent global warming cycle with Earth. How could humans be the cause of that?

Posted by: Scott C on November 30, 2006 12:06 PM
26. Simply remember the same clowns who insist global warming is the end of times as we know it now ... are the exact same clowns who Chicken-Littled about the coming Ice Age in the 1970s.

And yeah. I'm looking at you danw/unkl witz and the rest of your ilk.

"continued destruction of the commons"
Snort.
Spoken like the true, communist fool you are.

Posted by: jimg on November 30, 2006 12:11 PM
27. Just another case of this administration and the fools that follow them not understanding we are part of world community and deciding to go it alone again.

Would that 'going alone' also include the 98-0 US Senate vote rejecting Kyoto? Fool?

Posted by: jimg on November 30, 2006 12:19 PM
28. danw - you conveniently forget that Clinton got a 98-0 against ratification of the Kyoto treaty. So the count went from 98 against the prez to the prez agreeing with the 98. Only one vote changed sides. So, as you can see, it isn't just the 'Bushies' that think it is a crock. Not to mention the oh-so sophisticated Euros that are falling behind in their commitment to Kyoto. They feel so superior in passing it. Now all they have to do is keep to it.

Posted by: Right said Fred on November 30, 2006 12:38 PM
29. Know what I like best about the Kyoto Accords?

China is EXEMPT!

That makes as much sense as arguing for birth control for everyone except India.

Posted by: Rey Smith on November 30, 2006 12:38 PM
30. Stefan,

You're way off base here. As you were poking fun at global warming, you hardly brought attention to the 60+ degree weather in NY while we had a cold snap.

Did you ever take a statistics course? If not, it's understandable why you think 1 event can be used to extrapolate something that includes billions of billions of events. For example, you could say a batter for the Mariners who goes 4 for 4 in one game is the greatest hitter the league has ever seen -- carefully ingoring his .217 lifetime average (which is meaningful).

So, by being so silly, you actually show you either 1) have no grasp of statistics or 2) have no real data to back your claims and must rely upon your readers to be ignorant for your point to be accepted.

Either case...you hurt your own arguments.

Posted by: GOPlease on November 30, 2006 01:33 PM
31. #30 - or 3) it is in fun. Humor wouldn't be very funny if it 100% portrayed reality!

Posted by: Right said Fred on November 30, 2006 01:39 PM
32. News flash, in only one month, the Democratically controled House and Senate have ended global warming, homelessness and turned around the economy.

Give me a break.

Posted by: Jeffro on November 30, 2006 01:44 PM
33. Nice work, Stefan. Teasing the left about global warming makes them even madder than proposing public school vouchers. Good job!

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on November 30, 2006 02:32 PM
34. Jeffro 32--weren't we supposed to have risen out of our wheelchairs & walked too a-la Mr Edwards' promises and the Dems snake oil pitches? or was that just to reach the counter to cash the lawsuit settlement check?

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on December 1, 2006 07:55 AM
35. Notice global warming is spreading across the country?

Posted by: Right said Fred on December 1, 2006 11:21 AM
36. Whatever happened to all them killer hercanes that wuz sposed to hit the US this past season? Matturfact how many hercanes hit the maneland US this past season?

Posted by: slack jaw on December 1, 2006 04:53 PM
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