November 13, 2006
Burner concedes to Reichert
Reichert said Burner called to congratulate him on a second term, and the two shared their frustrations about the slow pace of Washington's largely vote-by-mail elections.
"Finally, something we agree on," Reichert told The Associated Press in a phone interview from Washington, D.C.
Congratulations to Congressman Reichert.
And best wishes to Darcy Burner on her next endeavors.
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at November 13, 2006
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1. If you are reading up on this site Dave, congratulations. And congratualtions too to Darcy for having the good grace to admit defeat. A move, I am sure, that will not hold well with some of her supporters.
Congrats to Dave Reichert.
Hopefully in the future Darcy Burner will be more honest about her previous experience and realize that aligning oneself with the most extreme elements of a party is not the best way to build support in a moderate district.
But there is a real winner in the Burner household. Henry Burner, who now gets to have a mom.
She could challenge Patty Murray in the Senate dem primary in 2010.
Congratulations to my congressman, Dave Reichert. We are glad to have ya' returning in the 8th.
4. Thank God we've retained Dave Reichert in the 8th CD. What a shame it would have been to loose such a capable, level headed person to such an annoying lightweight. Still, he deserved better support than what he got. Any ideas as to why we dodged a bullet in the 8th?
Who's extreme, Jeff? Surely not the SIXTY-NINE PERCENT of American citizens who disapprove of Bush and his war.
Considering that this District has never been represented by a Democrat, and considering that 49 percent-plus of its voters didn't think Darcy was "extreme," I'd say it's a pretty darned good performance.
But hey, let's not disturb your little fantasy world, shall we? The voters have spoken for now, and we'll be back to take the 8th in two years.
6. no hard feelings here as i previously posted. i admire her desire to go public & run. it aint easy in the spotlight. however, i'm surprised that her lighter resume & no substantive arguments/plans/messages still garnered that many votes. something else must play to the voters in the 8th. anyway, good luck to both contenders!
She lost. And your points about the district are good ones. She should have won. Who's extreme? David Goldstein and the Nutroots progressives. I'm not at all surprised that there are Americans out there, level-headed, good folks who want change. I happen to know many Democrats who fit that description. But they are not unhinged progressives filled with Bush hatred and advocating for outright socialism. In fact if you go look at the results you'll find many Dems like Heath Shuler who won with very conservative Republican like values in their campaigns.
If you can't understand that Darcy's consistent appearances with the unhinged wing in Seattle and her lack of any meaningful campaigning in Pierce County was indeed an extreme position relative to the 8th CD, then you are the one that is deluded.
But keep up the rhetoric and see where it gets you.
Post election a full 79% of Americans are worried that Dems will be too hasty on Iraq. 69% are worried that Dems will drag us into endless probes of the Bush Administration, and 66% are worried that Dems won't do enough to address Islamic terror.
There are still serious issues facing this country, and it was precisely her lack of willingness to address these issues with any more than shrill extremist rhetoric that cost Darcy Burner a win.
Well we've arrested another terrorist this one's not a Islamist, He's a Republican!
and I posted the wrong link.
10. "and I posted the wrong link"
Matters not. Nobody's gonna cut and paste your link into a browser just to see what you clever mind has come up with this time...
Congratulations to Dave Reichert. I am very glad that he was able to win in this election season.
I applaud Mrs. Burner for calling the congressman to concede the election. (although King 5 news this evening at 11pm said that she still hadn't conceded.).
I am just happy that the Robo-calls are over and my mailbox is now not being stuffed with flyers.
Ivan, do you realize how many people...like myself may answer that they don't approve of Bush's job performance because he's caved in to the left too often? He's alienated his base with the spending (with help from an arrogant/comfortable Republican congress), the middle of the road immigration stance, and the prescription drug entitlement that will live in perpetuity now that it's been passed.
I don't disapprove of the war because we are there or because all war is evil or because I'd love to try to re-create the '60s. I disapprove because it seems our soldiers have their hands tied.
To even consider Bush extreme shows just how left the entire political spectrum has shifted in the last 50 years. Compare the Bush policies to those of JFK. Compare the programs Democrats call for with those of Socialist/Communist countries.
Nice try, however, even in a blue state..in a very blue election...with an unpopular Republican President...Dem's still couldn't take the seat. I'd say this year should have been a slam-dunk. I wouldn't put much stock in 2008. But beyond that...who knows.
Congrats Dave, you earned it! In his next term, look for Reichert to capitalize on the Democrats control of Congress. Smart money says he joins the Dems on a few select issues important to 8th Dist voters, and thereby innoculates himself against a challenger in '08.
As for Burner--Stefan, why not start some kind of unemployment parody for her?
Great comment # 7 by Jeff B....
And who knows: All those media events with Burner standing right next to Baghdad Jimmy McD. might have been the final assist that put Reichert over the top. Whatever: It's great to see Reichert pull it out in ''Blue WA'' in a (D) ''wave year''.
And now ??.. I expect one of the more interesting spectator sports in early 2007 will be watching how Pelosi and Reid deal (or not) with the likes of Joe Lieberman, Tester from Montana (big 2nd Amendment supporter), and Webb in Virginia (a former (R) ). There will be a minimum wage hike (most states are higher already anyway), but beyond that my guess is that the netroots may be in for a bigger disappointment than most people realize; especially given that in 2007-2008 I expect that President Bush will (finally) find his veto pen (out-of-control earmarks and pork are clearly one of the big (R) failings at the national level in the last few years, IMO).
15. Methow...I couldn't agree more. Bush has a real opportunity to become a cog in the spending machine...finally!! With Pelosi and Murtha at the helm, I don't see how Bush opposing their legislation will be anything but a winner in 2008.
JeffB admits: "many Democrats ... are not unhinged progressives filled with Bush hatred and advocating for outright socialism."
No, many of us are hinged capitalists. But we are all filled with Bush hatred.
Mark d @ 12:
It is my sincere desire that you and Jeff B and ERNurse take over the Republican Party in this state.
Now only if we could unseat Jay Inslee in the 1st Congressional with a person of Congressman Reichert's experience and values. However our results were 60% for an liberal spender who never campaigned against an underfunded challenger. Perhaps in '08 we can light a fire in this race and get a more moderate voice.
For now, warmest congratulations to Dave Reichert. I must admit those negative ads were getting almost cult like with Reichert and Burner negative ads running back to back. I particularly enjoyed the faux interview of Ms. Burner for the job by a female. That was cute and very sadly true about competence for the position.
GWB won this election Darcy !!
19. Patrick et al: If this does drive Reichert to the middle or even the left, then the Dems win. Challenging incumbents is not just about winning, its also about scaring them. If you win great, but even if you just come close you still put the incumbent on notice. Either Reichert behaves as a moderate/democrat, or he faces an even tougher challenge in 2 years.
The 8th District is changing because the Eastside is changing. More Microsofties are living on the Eastside, there are more apartments and condos in Bellevue. They tend to attract younger, higher income residents who in all likelihood vote D.
I don't know how long Reichert will be in office, but I'd be amazed if the person who replaced him had an (R) behind their name.
Bellevue is becoming Seattle without the street bums.
21. But hey, let's not disturb your little fantasy world, shall we?
Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.
The Neo Socialists like yourself are going to spend the next two years exposing their true intentions to the public. In the meantime Conservatives will regain the proper place as the party of fiscal responsibility.
Look at the bright side, maybe the Ames Lake Homeowners Association needs another part time president. Sorry I forgot, she already failed at that job.
I was going to reply to your comments at post #5.
But Mark D. did such an excellent job of writing what I was already thinking at post #12.
Hey, maybe Darcy can get her old job back again at Microsoft. I'm sure they need more of her kind.
This was a new dynamic mentioned above. "younger", yes; if you are young and not a liberal you have no heart or something like that, but "higher income" like voting D is something new. I thought the R party was for the rich and greedy people.
So, is this a new dynamic of the young and rich voting D?
24. Maybe Darcy can help build her resume by working with the government to improve the election process that "... the two shared their frustrations about the slow pace of Washington's largely vote-by-mail elections" If she could get that resolved she would definately be a viable candidate!
As much as I didn't want to see Darcy represent my district, I really had to hold my nose when I voted for Reichert. And had I known for sure that congress would be lost to the democrats, I would have voted against him just to get a fresh candidate for 2008.
I thought he was a tough, no-nonsense cop and I will never forget the video of him out busting heads with his nightstick during the WTO riots. But I was really disappointed by his first term in congress and how he started to look like just another limp-wristed RINO.
From sucking up to Nancy Pelosi during the infamous shoe incident, to his position on ANWAR, to the Terri Schiavo decision, he just continued to disappoint me.
But I am mostly disappointed in the Republican party. If they would allow internal challenges in the primary, we wouldn't be faced with such an unpalatable decision as Darcy Burner in the general election just to end the eternal incumbency. Being an incumbent shouldn't mean that you are the unchallenged primary winner for life.
I also got three different doorbellers at my Sammamish home for Darcy during the final week before the election. I never saw one for Reichert. The only time I heard from the Republican party was when they called (several times) to ask for money.
The Republican party has taken the eighth district for granted and treated it as a sure thing for years. I'm hoping (but doubt) that this close shave gave them and Reichert a tune-up. My sincere congratulations, Congressman Reichert. Here's wishing for a better second term.
I predict the one issue that will drive the repubs crazy will be immigration. The shrieking will be unbearable coming from this site because Bush and Reichert are going to support a plan that gives a path to legalization to the the 12 million illegals who are currently here. A guest worker plan will be established, and the fence will probably not be built (or not too far).
This is by far the sensible choice. We can't kick out 12 million people. They are integral to our economy. And why should we deport people who are willing to come here and work? If they are on the dole or committing crimes, get them out now! Otherwise, we need to incorporate them into the American dream.
If Republicans go off the rails on this one, look for the newly made legals to be HUGE supporters of the Democrats. They should be natural constituents for the repubs, but why would you support a party who is so virulently against your presence?
27. Janet, I take a more moderate stance on the immigration issue than many conservatives, however, I fully support the concept of a wall. It just makes sense. It's been passed already. I don't understand how anyone can even be against it unless they really are in favor of just handing over our country to outside interests and giving up.
Note to Burner and her supporters-
Now that you've officially conceded, can you please go out and take down all those red signs you've got littering the eastside (especially in the rural communities off the 18 freeway.)
Pretty much all the other campaigns have already removed theirs.
29. Now all you King County Elections conspiracy theorists can eat crow.
30. She was a shrill harpy. I am glad she lost. Even the KCE ballot stuffers couldn't keep up with the widening lead by Reichert. Hey Marcyt/Darcy I think the presidency of the Anderson Lake club is open again honey.
Can someone tell me where/how I can determine if my absentee ballot was counted by King Co Records and Elections? URL? Email contact? ...?
32. Thank you for the classy comments, Stefan. It was a heart felt campaign for Darcy, I've got the soggy shoes to prove it. The only thing was, the opposition was equally motivated. We look forward to squaring off in 2008.
33. Matt. Did you save the tab from your absentee? Take the number from that and contact King County Elections. They will tell you whether your vote was counted. You have until November 27th to get the vote to properly count should there be a glitch.
Funny that Reichert couldn't show an ounce of class even in the moments immediately following Burner's concession.
"Finally, something we agree on,"
A fine display of the maturity that he has gained in his many years serving public office. What a guy.
35. Thank you, Mike Barr, for being a class act yourself. Not many Burner supporters have been. I voted for Reichert, but I appreciate your graciousness.
36. What does this say about the differences in views between King and Pierce co's in the 8th in the numbers? 50.1% / 49.9% vs. 57% / 43% and the difference in prosperity between the two counties and their needs? He and his supporters fought hard and won by a hair, hopefully not having the 8th be the usual Red gimme vote is an eye opener. Lame duck sessions and minority status really doesn't empower him now to bring as much back to the people as he could have in the last session. Congratulations are due.
37. Brendan, grow up, the man makes a simple joke that I'm sure even your humorless candidate could appreciate. Why dont you wait until we are a little closer to 2008 before you start up the "twist everything the evil republicans say or do" machine.
38. thank you I cherish my Republican friends, neighbors and family members. Some of the best people around, and around Apple Cup time, the sides often get realigned. (wink)
39. For a much needed dose of humor read Goldy's profanity laced,(why are lefties so fond of profanity and name calling?), rant at HA over Burner's loss, including calling Reichert a slang term for a male anatomic part. The best part is when he blames the media, particularly the Seattle Times, for the election results. Sweet.
no--can't simply round people up, but you sure can pass laws & have some political stones like some recent TX and PA towns that made illegal aliens ineligible for benefits, housing & made English official. Simply dry up the government freebie well. Let private charities & private citizens sponsor them & pay all their costs. Like adoption. Isn't personal responsibility an American value?
And it's not simply 12 mill more. It's their bring-along & born kids, imported aunts, uncles & grandparents who would LOVE to be on our medical programs after paying squat into our system. And integral to our economy? Then why do we pay our own people to sit on their bums & collect & have babies? Make them work. Like in the 30's dust bowl times when there was no welfare. And the next wave of illegals or those who overstay their work passes or birth while working here? Another few million more? And the poor b-strds who waited legally in line? Nobody fighting for them.
As for Darcy, can she work for KC elections? Maybe Buck's assistant or replacement? Great training ground for political experience for that resume! And math counting skills are honed to a point "any bank would envy"
I read Goldstein's angry post-Darcy loss screed at HA. I am impressed that he actually admits to many of his shortcomings, but of course, he's incapable of doing so without a childish tirade.
Repubs should take note, Darcy came close to a win, and she should have won. This is a very Blue state, Repubs here are often in denial about just how far off the Progressive deep end the Western residents of this state have gone. On so many levels, deeply un-american, anti-capitalist, Marxist, collectivist forces have taken over this state. That's why Darcy should have won.
But, you can't sell such hateful collective ideologies at their face value. They've got to be disguised as pro-child, or pro-worker, or pro-elderly or whatever it takes to get voters to buy the package. Darcy Burner could have easily worn more of a soccer mom, aww shucks face. She could have spent less time in Seattle and more time in Auburn. She could have downplayed her Nutroots supporters. But she did none of the above, and was arrogant enough to challenge those who called her out on her inexperience or improper listing of her credentials.
It's telling to note that Goldstein's solution is not a contrite or learned and nuanced introspection that would yield the subtle refinements necessary to tune progressives for future wins. No, he's got the guns a-blazin' angry, Nutroots, hothead, approach of making future campaigns even more negative. He suggests that if only he had really attacked Reichert more, Darcy would have won. This is instructive because if what he did to McGavick and Reichert during their campaigns was not negative personal attacks, I can't imagine what would be a lower more aggressive line of attack for '08, physical violence? And at the same time, I rejoice, because its the over-the-top nature of the Nutroots that severely handicaps their efforts.
Folks, if you want to assure any hope for even a mildly conservative future for WA, you've got to start pointing out the ideas that are behind people like David Goldstein. Individual freedom, academic competition, fair taxation, election integrity, and even the meekest expectation of personal responsibility will all be obliterated if Goldstein and crew have their way.
You think it's bad in WA now? There will be many more Darcy Burners, inexperienced but programmed to appeal to new young Democrats, dutifully marching to the beat of their Nutroots handlers' drums.
One thing's for sure, Goldstein is telling the truth, he will be back in '08. Those who are more preoccupied with the control of others instead of the world around them are never satiated.
Goldstein eats humble pie (with crow in it) whether he likes it or not !
She could have won it if her campaign would have had more substance, but more voters saw through the emptiness and nutroots propaganda put forth by her shuck and jive campaign handlers (ie. Goldstein).
Hopefully, Mr. Reichert learned something from this and will listen more to his constituents this time - the same goes for the remainder of the House Republicans.
43. Great, great post Jeff B. Particularly I concur that many Republican posters here really don't grasp how far left so much of the population of Western Washington is. Perhaps they haven't had the dubious honor of working around them as I have. I sometimes think it's a major miracle that Republicans win elections at all given the left's absolute control of media, education, and entertainment.
Darcy Burner you just conceded your Congressional race. What are you going to do now.
"I'm taking my son to Disneyland"
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Finally this woman is getting her priorities in the proper order.
Johnny at 28: Don't count on the signs being removed anytime soon... it's been two years since "Jon Carry" lost and you still see a lot of "Carry" bumper stickers on the backs of old Volvos and Subarus :-)
I do agree that the 8th District is changing. A lot of people are fleeing the poor schools, crime, etc. in Seattle and moving to Bellevue or Kirkland. In the process they bring their left-leaning views with them.
Jimmy-the problem with your argument is that they are already here. They work here, they own homes, they are part of local communities. Yes, some use social services. But most studies show that they contribute more to our economy than they take. Make them legal, and let them come into the sunlight.
We need to stop demonizing people who risk their lives to come here for a better life. Our immigration quotas have been way too low for too many years, hence the illegal problem. Rather than berate the Mexicans, why not figure out how to make it all work to our advantage? I say send the the Welcome Wagon.