October 30, 2006
Suppression of Dissent in Maria Kantwell's Amerikkka

The ACLU is following up on the complaint of the Bellevue Community College students who were barred from last week's Obama/Cantwell rally at BCC for wearing Mike McGavick T-shirts.

Meanwhile, somebody uprooted my Mike McGavick yard sign again last night

UPDATE: Some commenters are questioning whether the wind fell my sign. It's possible, but I think unlikely. Unfortunately, I don't have before and after pictures to illustrate this. I also have another yard sign, for Stephen Johnson, which was placed next to the McGavick sign. Both signs have heavy wood stakes and I hammered them both pretty firmly into the ground. The Johnson sign was still standing, but twisted around its axis. The angles of the two displaced signs did not suggest that they were both blown over, but that both were intentionally yanked.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at October 30, 2006 01:47 PM | Email This
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1. By supporting McGavick you're supporting intolerance, and if there's one thing the left won't tolerate it's intolerance. (See uptight Seattleite.) See, it's your fault after all.

/sarcasm

Posted by: Obi-Wan on October 30, 2006 02:04 PM
2. Maybe the wind that knocked it over.

If someone was serious about their hatred of your McGavick sign they would at least have bothered to steal the sign rather than politely uprooting it.

Posted by: Cato on October 30, 2006 02:15 PM
3. The McGavick sign in my front yard gets tipped over by wind gusts--or pulled out of the ground--at least once every night. I grab a handy rock and pound in the stake again in a slightly different location. Mine is the only sign on our street. I suspect the prank is done by someone who lives on the other side of the street who watches me reinstall it. It's a game, so far.

Posted by: Marilyn on October 30, 2006 02:20 PM
4. "The ACLU is following up on the complaint of the Bellevue Community College students who were barred from last week's Obama/Cantwell rally at BCC for wearing Mike McGavick T-shirts."

Meh. Forgive me if I find this no more offensive or significant than Bush's people throwing opponents out of his rally in 2004.

These are political rallies; why should either side let in people whose agenda is clearly to disrupt the event?

Posted by: ScottM on October 30, 2006 02:31 PM
5. Put 2" staples thru the sign and the wood post so the staples poke thru the other side. When the goofballs pull it up, they will rip up their tender little hands.
You will be able to tell who did it by the bandages, gauze and bloodstains.

Posted by: ouch! on October 30, 2006 02:32 PM
6. Good idea in #5, maybe the world would catch a break and the Guppy would forget about it and when he goes to remove the sign next Wednesday after the drubbing the Rethugs will suffer he will cut his hand on the staples and need a tetanus shot.

Posted by: RobK1967 on October 30, 2006 02:38 PM
7. Yet another bellwether. In the oh so tolerant Blue state of WA, you find a lot of conservatives that know better than to advertise their support for conservative candidates. I had some signs up in 2004, and they were consistently vandalized. And I had a magnet on my car which was ripped off. I've learned that many on the left don't respect property or opinions. If you don't want your car keyed, then don't put on a Bush or McGavick sticker.

But, it's all good. In an intolerant society, the voice of dissent might actually be a deafening silence. There are a loft of conservatives that will show up and quietly vote next Tuesday. That will be the real wake up call for the left, and a result that they won't be able to reverse through vandalism.

Posted by: Jeff B. on October 30, 2006 02:45 PM
8. My doorbell rings. Obviously someone I know since I have a "NO SOLICITORS" sign by the bell button.

Door opens: Hmm, do I know any middle-aged women with long frizzy gray hair and no makeup? Some sort of Andes Mountains knit cap? Large round-lensed wire frame glasses in need of repair? Birkenstocks over multi-colored striped socks? Dirty polar fleece vest sporting buttons such as "Free Tibet" and other noteworthy causes? An aroma of patchouli oil mixed with burnt cannabis? Nope; no one I know.

She: "Hello, I'm here to ask you to vote for Maria."

Me: "You're too late; I already voted."

She: "How did you vote?"

Me: "What were the results of your last mammogram?"

She: "THAT'S PERSONAL!"

Me: Just a wink and a smile as the door closes.

Posted by: Tyler Durden on October 30, 2006 02:48 PM
9. Nice rant Jeff, but are you trying to claim that your side does not engage in the same sort of thing? So why did my car get keyed when I had a Kerry bumper sticker on it? Please continue to rant, after next Tuesday that will be all you have left to do.

Posted by: RobK1967 on October 30, 2006 02:50 PM
10. Please forgive me RobK but I don't believe you.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 30, 2006 02:59 PM
11. I have a sign on my door that rattles would-be sales folks and cuts down substantially on folks hawking their wares, religion, and candidates. It says "SOLICITORS WILL BE MOCKED" and has worked exceedingly well. Scummy salesmen walk away thoroughly shocked, campaigners get a lesson about privacy and personal rights, evangelical whack jobs get a good tongue lashing, and the two young Girl Scouts learned the definitions they had missed in school. (I treated them nicely and bought a box of cookies anyway)

As for uprooted signs.....that's pretty subtle. When they other signs speared through the center, have been burned to a nub, or have obscenities spray painted on them.....that's a seriously angry person. You've got very polite vandals here.

Posted by: Matty on October 30, 2006 03:02 PM
12. So? Am I supposed to care whether you believe me? Sorry but my give a damn is busted, please try you call again later. But thank you for playing the game.

Posted by: RobK1967 on October 30, 2006 03:04 PM
13. Cato: Can you explain to me what exactly is "polite" about uprooting someone else's sign? Whether uprooted, or vandalized, or destroyed, or stolen, it's all the same, i.e. censorship. I call that not only rude, but illegal.

Posted by: katomar on October 30, 2006 03:29 PM
14. RobK1967 - I believe that you are less than honest. Prove that your car was keyed and then we'll talk. Otherwise STFU...

Posted by: alphabet soup on October 30, 2006 03:31 PM
15. You know, both sides steal/uproot signs.

My signs have been stolen (democratic signs), your sign has been knocked down. Really - it just says that there are alot of immature people out there.

Every election this pained outrage is manufactured - it doesn't say anything inherent either side.

Posted by: jb on October 30, 2006 03:42 PM
16. RobK -
How do you know it was 'our side' that supposedly keyed your car? Could've been a NaderNut, or a Greenie, or Socialist Worker's Party supporter (oh, wait, not one of them since they have the same beliefs as Kerry).

Nice try.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen on October 30, 2006 03:54 PM
17. Rob hasn't taken his pills today. He's angry and uncivil. That's why he went trolling. And he's full of standard liberal name calling, like "rethugs" - wooooo, that's so tough! It is always interesting how the kooky left (of which our friend Rob is a part of, but he's in the angry wing) calls Rs by the names that Ds are known for. Hey Rob, what do political machines and unions have in common (other than proven track records in thuggery)? They work for/with the Democratic party! Yay for you if you got it right. How about the idiot with the Bush assassination movie? Nope, he's not a right-winger either. Just another lefty adding to the civil discourse of our times. Hey, that's just like you, Rob!

Posted by: RobK is a Knob, K? on October 30, 2006 03:59 PM
18. The last time someone messed with my signs I doubled the amount of them I had up.

They stopped dropping in after that.

Posted by: GS on October 30, 2006 04:18 PM
19. I agree with JB@15. Both sides probably uproot signs in people's yards. JB is probably a D you could actually have a discussion with, without anyone getting worked up. I'm all for that.

I do have to say there is much more anecdotal evidence of the loony left doing the more vandalism oriented thing - keying cars, breaking windows (actually, that's not anecdotal, there were people arrested in the last cycle for this), spray painting (again, not anecdotal, has been happening in OR this cycle), replacing stickers, slashing tires (not anecdotal either, prominent D children in the midwest are in jail for this one). You just don't see this on the right as much. Most times (talk show hosts excluded) there's not the same propensity to argue and "speak truth to anyone who will listen to ranting"

Posted by: Yo yo on October 30, 2006 04:24 PM
20. Hmmm, high winds around the area could very well cause the sign to uproot itself. It's just much more convenient to place the blame on the opposing party (and give ditto-heads like Jeff B. a rallying cry about how the GOP is so much more tolerant than the Dem's).

Posted by: Cato on October 30, 2006 04:29 PM
21. Were there high winds last night? I live on Kent's East Hill, which is one of the first places to get them, and we didn't have any. Sounds like a lib excuse to me.

...unless Stefan lives across the street from a Democrat. That would explain the extremely localized high winds.

Posted by: sro on October 30, 2006 04:39 PM
22. Sorry, Cato, I missed your link to the news story about high winds IN THE MOUNTAINS. I didn't realize Stefan lives in Snoqualmie Pass.

Posted by: sro on October 30, 2006 04:42 PM
23. That's right, Cato. Don't want to give ditto-heads a rallying cry. But you do like to keep the barking moonbats snapping about how caring and emasculated Dems are.

Those high winds must be selective though - they have picked up all the Reichert signs I usually see on my way to work, but left the Darcy and Maria signs alone. And anybody who has seen those signs knows that they are little sails waiting to be pushed by the wind.

Posted by: Cato, Schmato on October 30, 2006 04:43 PM
24. Cato, Schmato @23: is it Darcy's and Maria's signs waiting to drift with the wind, or the candidates themselves?

Posted by: sro on October 30, 2006 04:49 PM
25. claymores. claymores. claymores.

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on October 30, 2006 05:01 PM
26. Hey yo yo - you may do that sort of crap, but I don't - and I don't know ANY Republicans taht resort to that kind of juvenile behavior.

Speak for yourself...

Posted by: alphabet soup on October 30, 2006 05:37 PM
27. Your yard sign was knocked over?!!!
OMG, CALL THE POLICE, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, THE HORROR, THE ATROCITY, THE VIOLENCE, THE HORROR!!!
This can't be America.

Posted by: Banshee on October 30, 2006 05:50 PM
28. Rob,

You don't want to get into a contest of who can show more anecdotal evidence of vandalism and mayhem against a particular party. There's way that will show this is much more common from the left. Does it happen on the right? Sure, but it's a lot less common and a lot less intense. The left is the party of incivility. Dissent is patriotic you claim! Want to see some video of your fellow travelers in San Francisco? It's not pretty.

Posted by: Jeff B. on October 30, 2006 05:52 PM
29. I got creeped out when I watched a green vovlo wagon (I have your license number)with a burner sticker slow near every house with GOP signs in the yard and the driver wrote down something on a pad of paper. I am assuming it was house numbers. I saw the same car later in the day further down in my neighborhood doing the same thing. I'll watch the police reports for vandalism

Posted by: Chris Pedersen on October 30, 2006 06:27 PM
30. On signs:

[1] I have had at least 5 of my ''YES on I-933'' signs destroyed, torn down, or stolen (and yes: They were in legal and proper locations).

[2] Stefan's photo of his knocked-over McGavick sign shows the ''standard stake method'', that almost all the big campaigns use. While it takes an extra minute or so and is marginally more expensive, at least for weather-proofing campaign signs (but not, of course, radical-leftie proofing):
-a- Pound in the 1 stake with sign attached.
-b- Pound in a separate free stake at the other end of the sign.
-c- Use staple gun to put in 4-5 HALF-INCH staples (not shorter), to secure what was the free stake to the sign.

After doing above, the end product will take several times the wind speed of single-stake-on-one-end signs.

Posted by: Methow Ken on October 30, 2006 07:07 PM
31. Somebody needs to rake some leaves...

Posted by: Organization Man on October 30, 2006 07:33 PM
32. Hey Stefan, how do we know you didn't knock it down and post this to imply that Democrats did it?

Posted by: Mike Hart on October 30, 2006 07:52 PM
33. Hey, who is uprooting all the Cantwell and Burner signs? Must be the wind in that case...and evil democrats responsible for all the Mcgavick sign know downs, eh? Only explanation that makes sense (assuming republicans are always perfect and democrats always bad--as your postings regularly imply)

Posted by: Mike Hart on October 30, 2006 07:54 PM
34. And what about all those official Bush (as president) rallies where all the attendees were pre-screened? Guess that's just fine, eh?

Posted by: Mike Hart on October 30, 2006 08:00 PM
35. Hart

I doubt that a "bad" somebody would wanna kill Cantwell or Burner. You dem's could spin around a square rock, I swear.


I think when the PRESIDENT is involved the security is a bit tighter. Even when clinton visited, they screened people 5 blocks from where he was speaking for petes sakes.

But hey, just keep thinking that burner and cantwell are important.

I voted just the opposite.

Posted by: ChrisN on October 30, 2006 08:26 PM
36. Hey Marilyn: Back in 2000, my Slade Gorton sign kept being stolen and knocked down by unscrupulous democrats several times. Someone told me to put dog poop around the sign. So I collected a nice pail of my malamute's droppings and spread it all around.I don't know what happened that night, but I think somebody got a shoefull.

and jb, it happens on both sides. BUT THE THEFTS AND STEALING AND VANDALISM HAPPENS MUCH MORE ON REPUBLICAN SIGNS. I've heard several discussions about this and all agree on that. The Dems who vandalized my signs would even come by and knock over my very large Bush-Cheney sign. I put it back up. Then they cut it in 1/2 and threw the pieces into nearby bushes. I taped it back together and put it back up. Then they cut it up into even more pieces. I taped it again. Then they must've brought a large vehicle and they took the whole thing. I was simply aghast at the brazen-ness of these democrats. Do they really think this much vandalism and theft is okay? In '96 up here on the plateau, my signs would be stolen within a 1/2 hour of going up. Repeatedly. It was amazing. Dems do this kind of thing MUCH MORE.

Posted by: Michele on October 30, 2006 08:41 PM
37. ..THEN THERE were the democrats up on Union Hill in Redmond who ran around with a can of spray paint and repeatedly vandalized the Bush-Cheney signs and the Rossi signs. I never saw anything like that happen to democrat signs. DEMOCRATS DO THIS THING MUCH MORE.
I even remember a few (eventually) honest democrats who went on John Carlson's showi in 2004. They had gone on a big vandalism spree and did a bunch of damage in a short time to a whole bunch of the really big Bush-Cheney signs. They actually began to feel guilty, so they called up the republican HQ and admitted it. they ended up spending an entire afternoon helping an old republican guy go around and repair the signs.

Posted by: Michele on October 30, 2006 08:46 PM
38. I used to have problems with campaign signs being stolen and vandalized until I started putting them next to my "TRESPASSERS WILL BE MET WITH AN ARMED RESPONSE" sign.
Amazingly, no problems since.
LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWNS are cowards.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 30, 2006 09:30 PM
39. Hey, good idea, Mr. Cynical.

And remember y'all, don't get mad, go work on GOTV efforts. Anything. Very effective 'response' to all this interference from the left.

Posted by: Michele on October 30, 2006 10:22 PM
40. Well, hey, no surprise here. I can't speak as to how much campaign sign sabotage occurs from either conservatives or liberals in general, but I can relate my experience a few years ago when working for the Joshua Freed campaign.

Joshua was running for state representative (Republican), and I joined his campaign to help distribute flyers and plant campaign signs. I covered lots of miles, using a map to show where I had placed signs. The map was intended to make it easier to recover the signs after the campaign was over.

Some of Joshua's signs I placed in North King County (among other places). On the way to work a day or so later I noticed a number of Joshua's signs were knocked over in that same area in North King County. I thought, hey, probably school kids. However, it soon became apparent to me over the next few days that someone was systematically uprooting, breaking, tearing, or otherwise damaging Joshua's signs.

As I soon found out, this sabotage was not limited to one small area, but was fairly widespread. I soon began making the rounds, a couple of times a week, to check on signs at various locations where I had placed them (as well as signs other volunteers had placed for Joshua), and would sometimes find sites where Joshua's signs were the only ones damaged; democratic candidates sign's were strangely untouched (I don't remember who the opposition was), although there were a few instances where all candidates signs were damaged (I repaired the signs for all candidates at at least one of these instances).

Soon, I had a regular portable sign repair shop in the back of my pickup truck, with staple gun, small nails, and pieces of scrap sign wood material, which I used in my periodic "maintenance" of Joshua's signs.

After a couple of weeks, the sign damage decreased in frequency to just a few isolated incidents.

I had assumed at that time that there was an individual or political group that disliked what Joshua stood for, and said individual/group were bent on unfairly squelching political discourse. I hesitate to point fingers, but I always suspected people like the anarchists, or some such radical group were responsible.

I have no proof either way, since I never caught anyone red handed, so readers may draw their own conclusions.

Posted by: Marty on October 30, 2006 11:39 PM
41. There's a large five-way intersection in Lake Stevens near where I live. During the run-up to the 2004 election, a very large sign for a Republican candidate was put up there, only to disappear. Then it was back, then it was gone again.

Finally the exasperated owner of the sign(s) put up a new one. It said WOULD THE "PARTY OF PEACE" PLEASE RETURN OUR SIGN?

They didn't, of course, but I smiled every time I drove past.

Posted by: jvon on October 31, 2006 01:20 AM
42. We have a neighbour who put up a Kerry sign in 2004. Her sign was torn down several times (and in an uncompetitve Democratic area) and thrown or stolen, but the last time, whoever did it threw a wrappered condom down and wrote a note saying "TRY THIS INSTEAD BITCH". She was a child of rape; it made her cry. Political disagreements aside, that is near the angriest I have ever been.

I don't much care what political party is least or most responsible for sign vandalism. It's a minority of party members, and a minority that represents the very worst part of politics.

But I'm not going to judge an entire political movement based on these scum.

Posted by: Alcon Nighthawk on October 31, 2006 01:50 AM
43. Weird how the republicans hate the ACLU except for when it favors their side. And It is too bad your sign got uprooted. That stuff happens. No big deal. Just pound it back in. Maybe you should write about how one of McGavick's people put a yard sign of his in Cantwell's mom's yard. Now that's low!

Posted by: David on October 31, 2006 02:04 AM
44. Maybe Cantwell's mom is voting for McGavick.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 31, 2006 12:20 PM
45. Is that your story Bill? Can you prove that or did you happen to pull that guess out of your ass? Why do I suspect that if your guess was correct that the GOP would be running multiple ads touting that. Nice try though. Here's your sign.

Posted by: RobK1967 on October 31, 2006 12:57 PM
46. Hey Alphabet Soup @ 26:

I didn't say I did that, nor condoned it. I said it was wrong. What I also said was that the loony left resorts to this on occasion, and there are even criminal complaints to prove it!

I have been tempted in the past, especially with the more obnoxious vehicle plastered with bumper stickers. I have never done anything about that temptation though. Because I, as a Republican, would never stoop to the tactics of the left.

And a shout out to Mike Hart @ 34 - I guess you haven't seen the 1st Amendment violations by Cant-do-well at BCC this week? Talk about hand picked. This was so egregious that even the ACLU agreed with the McGavick supporters!

Posted by: Yo yo on October 31, 2006 01:00 PM
47. Rob at #45. And I thought lefties had no sense of humor.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 31, 2006 01:25 PM
48. Bill @47, I guess we see what happens when you think, please don't make a habit of it. It is painfull to watch that trainwreck.

Posted by: RobK1967 on October 31, 2006 01:56 PM
49. "Maybe Cantwell's mom is voting for McGavick."
Posted by Bill Cruchon at October 31, 2006 12:20 PM

Cantwell's mom probably is voting for McGavick...after reading that her daughter was lettin' OLD Dotzauer poke her in the whiskers a week before his wedding!!!
Perhaps Maria has forgotten her "good home schooling"??? She is a real SLUT!!

Posted by: aaaaaargh on October 31, 2006 02:04 PM
50. Rob,...............BOO!!
Happy Halloween!!

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 31, 2006 02:15 PM
51. flypaper. barbed wire. animal musk.

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on November 1, 2006 05:27 AM
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