September 06, 2006
Schram it!

This morning was the first time I've tuned in to "The Commentators" at 570 KVI. The new show is hosted by John Carlson - 13-year talk show veteran and runner-up in the 2000 Washington state gubernatorial race - and Ken Schram, curmudgeonly KOMO commentator and host of "Town Meeting".
KVI recently announced they were moving the program down the dial from KOMO News Radio 1000 where it formerly aired from 10 a.m. to noon. It has been expanded one hour and modified to allow a "Third Commentator" into the fray by accepting phone calls from listeners.
According to my count, "The Commentators" is the third attempt by Fisher Communications to fill the void left in KVI's 9-to-noon timeslot since talk radio icon Rush Limbaugh switched stations to local competitor 770 KTTH, owned by Entercom, a few years ago. On August 17, KTTH announced that they had signed a three-year deal with "The Rush Limbaugh Show" to continue broadcasting the syndicated talk show.

I've listened to Limbaugh since 1991 which is just after KVI changed its format from an oldies rock station to talk radio. The challenge for KVI is to get listeners like myself to punch 570 back on their radios after the Pretenders guitar riff starts playing.

Since Rush left KVI their 9-to-noon programming has been producing less than a Mariners designated hitter. Tony Snow, formerly of Fox News, had an enjoyable show but after being brought on as press secretary at the White House, KVI was left holding the bag. The replacement, "Brian and the Judge" was a stop-gap measure at best.
Personally I never tuned into The Commentators on KOMO 1000. It's not part of my radio habits. When I do feel the urge to channel surf I usually head over to sports radio on 950 KJR. KVI, for some reason, insists on syncing its commercial breaks with KTTH.

The addition of Ken Schram to the lineup will surely aggravate some of the more conservative members of the audience. The move shouldn't be any surprise though. Ever since Schram began conveniently stopping by KVI's studio to verbally spar with on-air personalities veteran KVI listeners knew that his own show was on the horizon.
Having watched my fair share of WWF wrestling matches as a kid I've learned that program directors love to purposefully introduce villains to your favorite show so you will continue to watch in order to boo and hiss at them. Schram is meant to be the Rowdy Roddy Piper or King Kong Bundy of the radio airwaves
KVI program director Dennis Kelly states that Schram is a pain in the neck to listeners and describes his ego as "bloviating".
"Ken will become the dog you can kick every day to get out your frustrations," Kelly states at the station's website.
With that kind of ringing endorsement I'm sure Schram can't wait to punch his timecard every morning.

The one positive with the program change is the decision to move Bryan Suits to the afternoon drive-time slot. Promoting the Army veteran to the 3 to 6 show was almost a fait accompli since Suits has been filling in for Carlson it seems for the entire summer as a guest host.
He should be popular. How can you not like a man who uses phrases like "Nuttier than squirrel feces" to describe an individual? Suits' barracks humor brings a new edge to the afternoon commute which is in contrast to Carlson's buttoned-down on-air persona.

Suits' future should remain intact but the verdict on "The Commentators" experiment is still pending. Will the show steal Western Washington's ratings crown while Limbaugh is looking down? Or has KVI stepped in another steaming pile of Schram?

Posted by DonWard at September 06, 2006 02:03 PM | Email This
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1. Some smart entity will recognize that Carlson deserves his own show again and give it to him. Nowhere can we hear his brand of analysis and interviews. He is truly awesome at situation appraisal and describing it succinctly and originally. He also seems to have a grasp and background for local things unlike any other.

Not having John's show is a major loss for a lot of us. I really cannot listen to Ken Schram. If I wanted to hate someone that I was listening to, I could turn to any leftwing radio show and annoy myself with it instead.

Having heard "The Commentators" I don't think it will ever become a part of my regular radio listening experience.

Bring back the John Carlson Show! (without the Shram)

Posted by: Michele on September 6, 2006 02:20 PM
2. The point is I don't want to kick the dog every day. I want to hear reasoned and factual discussion. It seems that Mssrs. Carlson and Schram get on well together but is Schram the Colms to Carlson's Hannity? I have my doubts. If not, like you Don, I'll go to KJR until those idiots get off sports and talk politics. Then its time to kick the dog and put in a CD.

Posted by: Diogenes on September 6, 2006 02:34 PM
3. John Carlson (along with taxaholics Gary Locke and Jessyn Schor) are in the throes of advocating for the ST2/RTID ballot measure that will take place in November 2007. They are the public face of "The Puget Sound Transportation Roundtable."

ST2 would be just like ST1 - taxes without end, imposed by a series of appointees that Ron Sims and his Democrat successors get to name. Carlson is now a shill for one of the least accountable local governments in the history of the United States. In light of his railings against the gas tax increase last year, he's now shown to be a total hypocrite - responsible citizens should boycott any radio show he's part of.

John Carlson says the upcoming ST2/RTID tax-grab attempt is going to be just great.

I guarantee you he has zero idea how much more taxes ST is going to impose just to finish what it is authorized to build out now. He doesn't know, because ST won't disclose that information (it learned from what happened with the Seattle Monorail Project that when the public learns about how the voters were lowballed on the tax estimates the party wraps up really quickly).

Posted by: Coot on September 6, 2006 02:41 PM
4. Carlson seems to not know who he wants to be of late. I stopped listening a while back. In my opinion, Medved has the best overall ability to quickly integrate ideas and come to key conclusions. Suits is the most entertaining, and often has some great insights. Kirby is great at interviewing. I usually catch a bit of what Rush has to say in the morning, his years of experience often add a key insight. Hannity, better on TV with Colmes. Ingraham, nothing else really on at that time, usually she's late to the table.

I don't really need a commentators format to form my own ideas by watching arguments go back and forth, and quite often, Schram actually gets it right, so it's not as if we are talking about a true Stefan vs. Goldy style extreme juxtaposition. For the record, I also don't really like O'Reilly, Elder or Levin. Savage is truly savage. He's way over the top, but sometimes adds some entertainment value. To me Savage is the Howard Stern of Political Talk.

The liberals are all pretty sad. In the past I use to listen to NPR. Terry Gross is great, but the cadre of left leaners has gone so over the top in the last ten years that it's painful to listen to any of them anymore. For kicks I listened to Air America a few times, it was pretty weak. Very angry people on the left.

No one else is really worth mentioning.

Posted by: Jeff B. on September 6, 2006 02:52 PM
5. Funny you posted this today. I emailed both Dave Carson and Dennis Kelly today telling them that I was done with KVI as they no longer had any programming for me. I was a regular listener to John Carlson from 3:00 to 6:00 and was disappointed when they dropped his last hour. I've attempted to listen to The Commentators but frankly Ken Schramm is a narcissistic buffoon and unlistenable. It's a shame because I like John Carlson and will miss his point of view. Funny that Dennis Kelly has an preemptive open apology for Schrammbo on the shows home page. That should say it all. Thanks for the memories KVI.

Posted by: swassociates on September 6, 2006 02:57 PM
6. I've always enjoyed Bryan Suits, although since he lift KIRO for KVI a few years back, I haven't been quite as interested in his show. He talks to much about the miltary... he doesn't have to rely on that, he is an entertaining host on his own.

If the commentators go belly up, will Carlson get his show back, or will he get the boot...or will he run for something else?

Posted by: josh on September 6, 2006 03:06 PM
7. I also emailed KVI to let them know I will not be listening nor patronizing Keil Mortgage, Camano Island Coffee, Garlic Jim's or other advertisers.

The Seattle market is flooded to the point of oversaturation with the liberal viewpoint in all forms of media - print, television, radio, internet. That was precisely why I tuned in to KVI. I enjoyed the commute with Carlson. Schramm just idiotically repeats the leftist dogma with absolutely zero thought or analysis of the words coming out of his mouth.

I think KVI made a major blunder. They think their audience is a hate filled bunch of right wing rednecks. It comes through in their description of "kicking the dog" (e.g. Schramm). That is an insult to the listeners.

As others pointed out, I do not want to kick the dog, but rather I wish to engage in well reasoned debate with mature adults, so that means Schramm is excluded.

KVI - we do not want Jeery Springer. If that is who you are trying to attract, I suggest you cater to hate filled liberals with BDS. They seem to like the car crash sensationalism with some T & A thrown in for good measure. Perhap you could also invite Tom Leykis.

Posted by: pbj on September 6, 2006 03:13 PM
8. Well I for one enjoy the Carlson vs. Schram circus. Unfortunately for me, I can't really listen to the radio during the day (explicitly against company policy), so the net affect of the change for me is simply less John Carlson.

Did anyone else notice that with the schedule change, KVI has also introduced a more "edgy" branding campaign? The station ID bits are less homely, with things like the lady's voice whispering "KVI" and such. I don't really care about that bit one way or another, but it does amuse me.

Slightly off topic, but what I really wish for in local AM radio is that someone would carry the Dr. Laura show. I love that show, in a twisted fascination kind of way.

Oh, and it's only the third attempt if you don't count the recent stint of "Brian & the Judge." 1) Rusty Humphries (who I actually quite enjoyed), 2) Tony Snow Show, 3) Brian & the Judge, 4) The Commentators.

Posted by: The Tim on September 6, 2006 03:26 PM
9. pbj said: "I also emailed KVI to let them know I will not be listening nor patronizing Keil Mortgage, Camano Island Coffee, Garlic Jim's or other advertisers."

That sounds like a real leftist thing to say.... Geeez. Mr. Suits is far more enjoyable than Carlson, IMHO. I like John, but Bryan Suits is far more enjoyable to listen to.


FWIW, Keil did my mortgage and they were exceptional. Garlic Jim's is the best pizza in Fed Way. I would do business with them based on the quality of their products not based on where they advertise.

Posted by: give_me_a_break on September 6, 2006 03:27 PM
10. Forgot all about The Rusty Humphries Show (On your Radio!). So that's technically four.
Thanks for the catch The Tim.

Posted by: Reporterward on September 6, 2006 03:31 PM
11. Weighing in (using my real name of course - because I'm not afraid to voice an opinion and claim it) on the Commentators and Suits change...

I've been listening to the Commentators for the past couple of days and give it a C- for production quality, a B- for intelligence (being buoyed up by Carlson)and an overall grade of C for the show.

In listening today, I restrained myself from yelling at the radio (and I'm a peace loving, normally mild mannered guy) "Schram! shut your irrespective, interrupting, and ignorant pie hole!" This while they played the first few minutes of the President's speech. But THANKS KEN! In all seriousness. You're immature, impolite, and insulting drivel is exactly representative of what passes for most of the liberal media's idea of real debate. You've lived up to exactly what I expected of you.

I'm not sure I'll listen much more to the show. If John can find someone with an IQ higher than double digits, and an inkling of what polite discussion is, I'd welcome the change. Ken's style is just too disruptive to take seriously, even though John does the best he can with what he has to work with.
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In so far as Brian is concerned... who would have thought I'd ever have a reason to flip the station to Michael Savage? Brian's been on the air long enough to get past the sloppy thinking and presentation style he has. As far as content, it's deep in one and only one area, Military/Iraq. On the remainder he's about as deep as a plastic wading pool. While I don't enjoy and turn off Savage when he rants, at least he has the knowledge and insight to see the connectedness of what he's discussing and how to make it meaningful to the lives of his listeners.

Suits... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Lourd, I wish KVI would recant their mistake of firing Mike Siegle - The man that brought Rush, and if I recall, Carlson to KVI in the first place (but I could be mistaken about John).

Posted by: Jamie Walker on September 6, 2006 03:32 PM
12. I absolutely *hate* Ken Schram. I dislike him so bad that I just can't listen to the radio while I work. Work is tough enough as it is without the distraction of Ken Schram. I consider him hugely obnoxious, impolite and somewhat of a dullard. I don't mind the guy having an opposing view but I just can't get around his attitude. But I did give it a try. I lasted about 5 to 10 minutes until I realized that Rush was dispensing the morning’s news while I listened to the "commentators" useless blah, blah, blah. A few more months of this and they can change Ken’s last name to “Scram” because that’s what people will be doing.

As for Suits, he has been in a bit of a rut lately but I trust he will get better. When he was on at night I was laughing my a** off while on my evening walk. You just don't know funny until Suits tells, out of the blue in med-sentence, some obnoxious jerk in a no nonsense tone to "hang up!" As the caller stumbles and blubbers he tells him again . . . "HANG UP!" The guy obeys the order and Suits remarks: "I was done with him and I really hate to hang up on people." Funny stuff. His Iraq war theater knowledge gives you a view you don’t get anywhere else. He should go back to the night slot. He’s better there.

Posted by: G Jiggy on September 6, 2006 03:51 PM
13. One thing local talk radio junkies should appreciate is the variety that we have here in this bastion of leftists! Many cities barely have one conservative media source - here in the People's Republic of Seattle are three, out of 8 TV and 12 radio stations. Talk about pro-choice!

One wonders how KVI will back out of this experiment if it doesn't work. Schram was funny occasionally when dropping by the KVI studio on the way to the restroom, not every day.

Think about all of the attrition over the years from KVI, mostly to KTTH - Rush, Medved, Bose, Seigel, Savage... What's going to happen at 770 now with about 90 nights of Seattle/Oklahoma Sonics games? Does not lead to evening loyalty habits when mixing two formats like oil and water.

With KKOL going high power and scheduling Laura Ingraham early morning, bringing Mike Reagan back, and rounding out with Prager, Doyle, Hewitt and Gallagher it is obviously the most unapologetically conservative lineup. Being Salem owned, might they also land Medved?

Posted by: GOPolitics on September 6, 2006 04:01 PM
14. What the heck happened to get Mike Siegle fired anyway? Sure he lied about Norm Rice and never admitted it or apologized, but that was a couple of years before heading to KTTH and then getting fired. Anyone know where he went or what he's doin'?

Posted by: Banshee on September 6, 2006 04:01 PM
15. According to his web site:

Mike Siegel returns to the air, Monday through Friday 6 to 7 P.M. on KGTK 920 AM in Olympia and KITZ 1400 AM in Bremerton/Silverdale. You can also catch the show on www.kitz1400.com

Posted by: Jamie Walker on September 6, 2006 04:12 PM
16. KVI has lost me as a listener too. I normally had the radio on all day to KVI, starting with Kirby Wilbur and then ending with Bryan Suits (had to turn it off before George Noory).

After KVI lost Rush years ago, I would often forget to change the station to KTTH because I was on KVI anyway. I enjoyed listening to Carlson and Suits.. I even enjoyed Brian and the Judge from Fox--apparently one of the few in Seattle according to the KVI accounts.

Carlson was good to listen to for both local and national issues. He was normally pretty thoughtful about the issues, and he managed to get some good interviews that were very interesting. It was okay when Schram would stop in once in a while, but I have absolutely no interest to hearing his sanctimonious whining every day. While Carlson says that he enjoys working with Schram they don't hold my interest, and I don't need to kick anyone.
Bryan Suits is fine, but I got disgusted with him when he started talking about how Carlson and Wilbur were out of line on the attempted gas tax repeal. Suits can be hilariously funny at times, but he is kind of a one note charlie and his take on local politics certainly seems more left than the others on KVI with the exception of Schram.

KTTH recently announced their broadcast rights to the Sonics games, so Laura Ingraham has moved the KOL 1300 AM. She is actually on live in Seattle now in the mornings.

So my listening habits have changed. Laura Ingraham from 6 to 9, if something big is going on locally I can listen to Wilbur, but otherwise I would much rather listen to Laura Ingraham. Then I change to KTTH and listen to Rush, Medved. KOL 1300 actually has Hugh Hewitt and others that are good to listen to too. So KOL has now moved onto my favorites on the radio buttons.

When my radio gets turned off at night it normally isn't on KVI anymore, and it isn't likely to be switched to that station any longer.

I don't know if KVI really thinks that their new lineup is a good move, but It certainly didn't interest any of my friends and family.

Posted by: Skeptic on September 6, 2006 04:42 PM
17. Hey pbj

Don't bash the advertisers. Use it as an opportunity to tell them you're "NOT", listening to KVI while still supporting them. They'll want to advertise where people listen and the free market will work.

Posted by: swassociates on September 6, 2006 04:50 PM
18. The Tim: Good news for you---Dr. Laura's show is back on from 12-3 weekdays on AM 1590. Been listening to it myself for the past several weeks. She gives darn good advice and I learn a lot from the show, actually.

GOPolitics and Skeptic: Thank you thank you for the heads up on Laura Ingrahm's move! I was so bummed about 770 cancelling her show, and now to find out that KKOL has increased their power and run her live in the mornings now. Woohoo! Makes my day!

And to the Sonics--for moving off of KJR and over to KTTH with the hopes of getting the conservative lead-in: what were you thinking???? Especially with the power drop-off at night. At least Sonics fans could HEAR the games on KJR! I wasn't listening before and still won't be listening now.

Posted by: Michele on September 6, 2006 05:11 PM
19. I love the new line up. Suits at 3 is the bomb, he is the best host in radio.

And I have always enjoyed the by play and diversity of the "taters".

If you get mad and yell at the radio, that means its working.

:)

Posted by: Karl on September 6, 2006 05:13 PM
20. I dont give it too long that anyone will have to put up with Schram. Personnaly I was kind of suprised at the move. The reason I say this is that there where many complaints about Schram filling in those few times for Carlson. I guess they had gotten so many complaints that Carlson told listeners he would never fill in again. As for KVI. I will still listen to Wilbur. He is a good host and a really good person. After that though I usually catch Rush and then Medved. I will occassionaly change over to Hannity if Medved's topic isnt intresting me (doesnt happen to often).

Posted by: TrueSoldier on September 6, 2006 05:14 PM
21. and Skeptic: I too thought that Bryan and the Judge wasn't a half-bad show. I had lesser expectations for it at first and found it to be quite entertaining at times. Too bad they canned it. At least I did listen to that at times. Now with the Shram thing 9-12, I won't be listening to KVI in that time period at all.

Posted by: Michele on September 6, 2006 05:16 PM
22. I'll take Medved over any other radio host out there, but afternoon drive time won't be the same without Carlson. He seemed to be a bit wobbly lately, but he was a true conservative with a very rational and civil approach to dealing with guests and issues.

Bryan suits is funny enough if you are taking a short drive, but he's too flippant and shallow for complicated policy issues and when he steps away from military topics it's hard to tell where he's coming from. He strikes me as more libertarian-hawk than conservative. Carlson's familiarity with the legislature and inside baseball brought a lot to the show and I'll miss him. I won't listen to Schram. I thought the only other choice was Savage, whom I can't stomach, so I was glad to hear about Hewitt on KKOL, but I just tuned my radio to 1300 and got nothing but static. I'm in Burien so is anyone else having trouble with KKOL 1300?

Posted by: Patrick H on September 6, 2006 05:53 PM
23. Since Carlson has joined Locke in an effort to steal another 14 - 16 Billion in new taxes, I have shut KVI off in the morning.....after Kirby is finished. There are lots of spots on the radio from that point on that I prefer to listen to.

Schram is just another Liberal who hasn't seen a tax he doesn't love...

So right now, the two of them together will create another disasterous marriage of Billions and Billions of new taxes on the people of Washington.

They can talk all they want, I've already tuned them out and cast them both to the wind!

Thanks KVI for Nothing! There are a lot of choices on my dial and I am surfing...


Posted by: Gs on September 6, 2006 06:18 PM
24. Schram reminds me of the grumpy old 80-year-old man on his front porch who used to yell at all us kids to "git off mah goddamned propuhty else ah'll sow yer ass wi' rocksalt." Of course, we all ran across his property- that is, until I almost got my ass sowed full of rocksalt. (I Found two holes in my britches after one sprint across his line of sight. Old Man Longbon may have been senile, but he was a helluva shot.)

I think that when Schram settles down, he brings some well-considered points to the table from time to time. I don't always agree with him- in fact, I hardly ever agree with him. I'll listen in and draw my own conclusions.

I personally think Brian Suits is the best thing going on KVI. That's just because I share his cynicism and I appreciate acerbic wit. I don't always agree with him either, but I find that most of the time he hits it out of the park.

Carlson is a wuss. Wilber is okay. Hannity is good. But KTTH owns the day with Rush and Michael Medved. I like the Sitman and Bose show, too. I liten on the way to work. They're a good team.

Posted by: ERNurse on September 6, 2006 07:07 PM
25. I think Carlson & Schram will get good ratings- they did at KOMO, because lets face it- those partial to this blog is

Agreed, Savage is the Howard Stern of political talk radio and his stories are the best part of his show and his national audience is closing in on Hannity and Rush (I have a hard time believing Rush is still #1- like he was 10 years ago). Medved is too much of a Bush apologist on the borders - can you say North American Union ? (a real threat). Sytman and Boze (I liked Boze/Weissbach) are good, but Kirby has the inside track there.
On KKOL - I like Jerry Doyle (noon-3PM) and Dennis Prager is a deep thinker and probably the most articulate talker of them all.

Posted by: KS on September 6, 2006 07:27 PM
26. I think Carlson & Schram will get good ratings- they did at KOMO, because lets face it- those partial to this blog is less than 30%, while in the Seattle area, Kerry got 77% and Bush 12% of the vote in 2004. With that said, this show is mainstream and will have a good shot at upstaging Rush, who has become stale, yada, yada, yada and a mouthpiece of the Republican party much of the time. There is more objectivity with the "odd couple". Actually, I like Carlson better with Schram (makes him look better). The rest of the lineup - Kirby does well & holds down the fort, Hannity is too much right wing kool aid, and like him better with Colmes (because Colmes makes him look better). Suits is good for a laugh and offers a good perspective on the war, plus has that cynicism and wit.

Agreed, Savage is the Howard Stern of political talk radio and his stories are the best part of his show and his national audience is closing in on Hannity and Rush (I have a hard time believing Rush is still #1- like he was 10 years ago). Medved is too much of a Bush apologist on the borders - can you say North American Union ? (a real threat). Sytman and Boze (I liked Boze/Weissbach) are good, but Kirby has the inside track there.
On KKOL - I like Jerry Doyle (noon-3PM) and Dennis Prager is a deep thinker and probably the most articulate talker of them all.

Posted by: KS on September 6, 2006 07:29 PM
27. Wow. When I wrote this I figured that the response to The Commentators would trend towards the negative but not in this overwhelming number. There's maybe one positive response so far.

I can understand SP commenters wanting to tell Ken to "Fife off" and to "Go to Hoquiam". So if it was someone other than Schram presenting the liberal/progressive perspective, would folks here be more amenable to listening?

Posted by: Reporterward on September 6, 2006 07:33 PM
28. I quit listening to talk radio completely about a year ago... Why bother when I can get 100% of my US RDA of cynicism off of blogs?

Posted by: Vexorg on September 6, 2006 07:47 PM
29. The....only......thing.....I....don't......like....about....Carlson....is.....his....slow....speech......patterns. Puts me to sleep on the road....dangerous.

Posted by: MB on September 6, 2006 08:40 PM
30. Another reason I'm glad I live in Bellingham.....

Posted by: Ferroequinologist on September 6, 2006 08:54 PM
31. tim you can catch dr lauras show 12-3 @ 1590 am out of everett

Posted by: dr laura fan on September 6, 2006 09:09 PM
32. Hot dang! Dr. Laura in Seattle! Thanks Michele (& Dr. Laura Fan)! Of course, I still have the "no radio at work" issue to figure out. I just have to figure out how to record the show and listen to it on my bike ride home. Hmm...

Reporterward/DonWard, you've got some counting issues, dude. I said that I enjoy the new show, and Karl also said that he enjoys the new lineup. That's two positive responses. Okay still not exactly much of a stamp of approval from the SP crowd, so I guess your point stands...

;^)

Posted by: The Tim on September 6, 2006 09:24 PM
33. Most entertaining conservative talk radio I've ever listened to: Armstrong and Getty's morning show from the Bay Area. You can pick them up beginning around Redding when driving south on I-5.

Locally, the best conservative talk host in the Puget Sound was Lou Pate, the former midnight to 5 a.m. guy on KIRO. Anybody know what happened to him and where he wound up?

Posted by: Organization Man on September 6, 2006 09:26 PM
34. Ken is clearly an atempt to create another Alan Combs, except in Ken's case he can fight back (not very well, but anything is better than Combs).

Suits is OK. I welcome a libertarian voice to Seattle's airwaves. It reminds me that there are other Republican leaning folks in the area who are not religeous conservatives. I hope he uses the time slot get better - before they can him!

Posted by: deadwood on September 6, 2006 10:08 PM
35. Hey Tim, lay off a little. Eatonville High School learned me my numbers just fine.
Although honestly, KS just posted his comment while I was writing my last.

I can say that I don't understand this disturbing Sound Politics "Commentators" preference for Dr. Laura over Carlson...
Deserves looking into.

Posted by: Reporterward on September 6, 2006 10:09 PM
36. I won't lift a finger to listen to Ken Scram.
Sorry John.

Posted by: Wesen on September 6, 2006 10:44 PM
37. The people I know that listen to talk radio like to hear ideas discussed with not a lot of yelling or lulling you to sleep.

My take on the KVI line up change - they made a mistake that the market will punish eventually.

But, I like my options for other talk radio hosts that are offered on competing stations, just need to let the advertisers know that we have moved on to more compatible programing.

Reporterward - if it was someone other that Schram I might listen to them, but KVI apparently was looking for someone to alienate and offend their audience.

Posted by: Skeptic on September 6, 2006 11:45 PM
38. Frankly, I was sick of Carlson years ago...especially after his half-a$$ed run for Governor which smacked of a publicity stunt.
While I agree with much of Carlson's commentary...I can get most of the talking points other places where the "delivery" is smoother.
Shram is pathetic.
Never forget folks...the bottom-line for this charade is RATINGS! Period.
I have better things to do with my time than to listen to a couple of a$$holes.

Posted by: dude on September 7, 2006 05:36 AM
39. Why not bring in Neal Boortz? I read his website every day and he has a great show.

http://boortz.com/

Posted by: Steve. on September 7, 2006 06:22 AM
40. #38 Dude. Never forget folks...the bottom-line for this charade is RATINGS! Period.

Sorry buddy, but ratings means money and money pays for the station to operate.

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on September 7, 2006 07:25 AM
41. Swa-

Advertising is the mother's milk of radio. After KVI kicked me in the gonads, I thought I'd return the favor. I will not patronize their advertisers. That isn't bashing them.

Posted by: pbj on September 7, 2006 10:32 AM
42. pbj at 7 & 41: agree; let the market know & take care of it; same of Schram--why antagonize the listeners for a few thrills?

like poking a sleeping dog for laughs--or sticking your hand in a log for a thrill; i don't get the temporary ha-ha angle of it, but let their ratings fall; Radio Darwinism will prevail;

Schram is a whiny gadfly; some people like that; sometimes is funny, but not constantly; nobody likes a perpetual downer; especially a leftie one;

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on September 7, 2006 11:09 AM
43. I would have suggested Laura Ingraham to KVI but KKOL 1300 snagged her 6-8am opposite Kirby. I love Mark Levin new on KVI from 6-8 as an alternative to Bill O'Reilly who seems to flip-flop from quasi-conservative to quasi liberal. Mark Levin is fun to listen to ("Get off the phone, ya big jerk!"). Did anyone see that Jane Fonda, Rosie O'Donnell and some other female lib are trying to start a talk show to compete with Rush? HAH!

Posted by: RWConservativeGal on September 7, 2006 12:00 PM
44. I won't listen to the Commentators until Schram comes clean on a "Schramie" that he awarded to a Washington Dept of Fish and Wildlife agent a couple of weeks ago.

Schram said that the agents just sat out on the water as a boat full of people who were crabbing went to rescue some people whose canoes had swamped.

Then the WDFW were accused of waiting until the crabbers returned to the crab pots that they were tending and at that time approached them and inspected their catch.

The crabbers were cited for not recording their crabs on the catch record card and for having undersized crabs.

In reality, the agents were a long away from the scene of the rescue and arrived on the scene of the crabbers 90 minutes after the rescues were done.

If Schram had done any research he would have found this out. He is a jerk.

Posted by: SubDoc on September 7, 2006 12:27 PM
45. I love Bryan Suits and his secular, real-world results oriented approach to conservatism.

But his speaking style does annoy me. I always get the impression that he's being interrupted or distracted by someone off-mike. Or he's got one eye on ESPN, or he's busy reading his email...

At least Carlson understands the concept of a smooth delivery. It gives you the impression that he really is thinking in paragraphs instead of sentence fragments.

Posted by: EmmaPeel on September 7, 2006 01:21 PM
46. When I moved to the area, I watched KIRO evening news, because is had less obvious adgenda that KIRO, and was nicely high definition. I moved to KING 5 after about the 5th or 6th time I saw Ken Schram commentary. I found his attitudes obnoxious, in a predictably liberal way, and delivery even more so.

I enjoyed listening to Carlson, and was very disappointed in KVIs decision to do "The Commentators". I've heard Carlson and Schramm spar during the regular show and had to struggle not to change the station.

I'll not be listening to it. I'm exposed to enough idiocity in the media as is.

Posted by: bruce from Redmond on September 7, 2006 04:07 PM
47. This may be a little off topic but thought I'd mention that here in the Seattle area you can hear Rush replays starting at 10 PM week nights on KFBK (1530 AM) broadcasting from Sacramento. KFBK has a very large antenna and extremely high power and the signal is very reliable if you have a half-way decent AM broadcast receiver.

Posted by: Tom on September 7, 2006 11:19 PM
48. I don't listen to the Commentators - because I LOVE listening to Rush. SO much so that I paid to be a premium member so I can listen online at work (and hear replays as I desire).

And I absolutely adore Medved - he is by far my favorite talk show host out there. But a close second is Hewitt and he's on another station (which I fail to recall the name but it's 1300 am). I only get them on the freeway though. :( I hope they work on their signal.

As to Suits - I enjoy him a ton, but I don't go out of my way to listen. If he's on, I listen. He makes me laugh and I completely appreciate his wit.

I can't stand Savage - he makes my skin crawl. And I avoid O'Reilly too.

If I can't listen to reruns of Laura Ingrum (how do you spell it?) and no one else is on, I turn it to music. :)

Posted by: megs on September 8, 2006 08:59 AM
49. Goodbye, KVI, from 9 to noon. If I wanted leftist drivel, or obnoxious bone-headed "reasoning", I'd pick up a P.I., or NYTimes, or Seattle Times. or ...

Prediction: I give it less than a year.

Sorry, Carlson.

Posted by: Shaun on September 8, 2006 08:09 PM
50. I'm so glad Laura Ingraham is on in the a.m. now!! I like Kirby, but she's my favorite. I really missed listening to her in the a.m. since we moved to WA from CA last December. I love it when she skewers idiot libs, celebrities, and media types. Does anyone know if KKOL's power increase is complete? If so, they still need some more coverage---reception is spotty out here in Issaquah.

Posted by: Ex-OC'er on September 8, 2006 08:09 PM
51. Carlson serves a different master now. Money.

It started with his take from the Gambling industry. He has moved on to the Road Building Industry. If he keeps landing these kind of friends he will likely be governor some day. Of course his soul will be pretty dark by then, but he has noted that it pays better than Catholicism sans a relationship with Christ.

KVI by taking on Schram is prepping itself in case the Dims take Congress. After ABC's drubbing by Clintonistas for "The Road to 911," the Dims threatening to bring back the fairness doctrine, and the current level (about 60%) of commercial time that is bought with government dollars KVI doesn't want any more problems like last years 'State v Kirby and John' let alone a liscense challenge. Expect to see more of this in AM radio. The medium is in decline, but doesn't yet know it.

Posted by: Jericho on September 8, 2006 09:19 PM
52. Food for thought. Bonner County Idaho 8 years ago fired their Building Department Director, cancelled all building ordinances and inspections. Found out only the bankers investing in buildings wanted inspections. Why should taxpayers pay their bill. Architecs and Engineers are no longer insulted by unqualified bureaucrats and citizens are again free to create. the one Commissioneer against it all is now for it. Go King, Pierce and Snohomish Counties

Posted by: Ron Moss on September 13, 2006 01:05 AM
53. Not having John's show is a major loss for a lot of us. I really cannot listen to Ken Schram. If I wanted to hate someone that I was listening to, I could turn to any leftwing radio show and annoy myself with it instead.
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