August 29, 2006
Are Anti-Bush Moonbats The GOP's Best Friends?

It's fair to say President Bush has got some issues. He needs to figure out rather quickly a better and tougher Iraq strategy than "Stay The Course," and his laissez-faire attitude toward spending bloat under the GOP-led Congress is less than impressive, to put it nicely.

But whenever it seems things look bleak for Bush and the GOP nationally, some numbskull or another has a Bush Derangement Disorder episode in public that can't but help leave swing voters deeply troubled with the vapidity of Democrats and progressives, who fatally offer no real alternative to all that they demonize. Yesterday, as Jim noted, it was Seattle-ite Neal Starkman in a P-I op-ed, reprising his infamous "stupidity" meme with respect to voters who do not share The Left's outrage at Bush and his policies. Now comes news of a brilliant "Yale Shmale" campaign from Lakehead University in Ontario, no less, slamming Bush's education, ethics and performance in a pathetic bid to win new students. They're so unsure it'll work, however, they're also giving away video games and a Smart Car lease. Combined with specious and more localized political gamesmanship from their opponents, such recurrent, variegated and uncivil anti-GOP moonbattery could in the end mean a point or two more for GOP incumbents like U.S. Rep. Dave Reichert (R-WA), U.S. Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT), and Washington GOP Senate contender Mike McGavick. Not to mention a bit more still for the GOP presidential nominee, whomsoever that may be. At any rate, Seattle Central Community College, which was Time Magazine's 2001 Community College Of The Year, must be steamed they didn't beat Shmakehead U. to the punch.

Posted by Matt Rosenberg at August 29, 2006 06:36 PM | Email This
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1. Leftists aren't progressive in any way. Let's not aid their dishonest self labeling by calling them that. They aren't that liberal either.

Posted by: AP on August 29, 2006 06:43 PM
2. Progressives were the Communists in the 1950's. The Commies PROUDLY called themselves Progressives. Some things never change.
Progressive also implies one is "progressing" toward something. As far as I can tell, most of these KLOWNS have a strong desire to return our Country to pre-1900!! How is that "Progress"???
I believe LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWNS pretty much sums up the Gore ilk.
Do you like that monikor better AP??

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on August 29, 2006 07:37 PM
3. Boy the lefties seem to be heading into the rabidly loony column!!Ouch!!Sounds like the drivel sadly some of my family members listen to!! I notice the trolls are sure silent on this like that is unusual!!

Posted by: Laurie on August 29, 2006 09:23 PM
4. The lefties may make some marginal gains in the midtern elections only because of the poor approval rating of Bush and Congress, but their party is so pathetic, I wouldn't be surprised if they gained little or nothing beside of their increasing communist/progressive bent and the losers they have heading up the party. I wish a third party would come in and wipe the current Democrat party out and they meet the plight of the Whigs...

Posted by: KS on August 29, 2006 09:28 PM
5. Oops, it should read -
I wouldn't be surprised if they gained little or nothing BECAUSE of their increasing communist/progressive bent and the losers they have heading up the party

Posted by: KS on August 29, 2006 09:29 PM
6. I think that the leftist screwballs are the best thing that ever happened to the GOP. Pictures of naked 60 year old men and overweight, heavily tattooed women of questionable sexuality riding bikes to protest the war send the great middle-ground either right into the arms of the GOP or into Not Voting Land. Politics is also identity and *nobody* who is normal wants to identify with screwballs like that. Tolerate, yes but taken as credible source for political opinion? Not bloody likely.

Years ago, just after I figured out that Democrats shared nothing of my values, I went on a right wing rant against the left to most anybody who would listen. They didn't. BUT by being measured, moderate and patient I have turned more to the policies of conservatism than any amount of ranting could do.

Look at the lefty ranters that drop by here. No facts or reasoned argument. Just screamed word bites right from the latest DNC press release. We've all heard it a thousand times. "killing innocents for profit." "war for oil." etc. etc. Nobody believes it but them. It's made logical to them by that famous liberal feedback loop.

But don't get me started . . .

Posted by: G Jiggy on August 29, 2006 09:40 PM
7. Dimocraps are their own worse enemy. They act like spoiled children and they always always have their taxpayer funded cup outstretched. It is always empty and demanding more.

However as Maria Cantwell and Queen Christine have shown us, when campaigning, claim to be working hard at reducing taxes on the citizens of their state.

That is until they are elected. Then they are on the royal take.

Posted by: GS on August 29, 2006 09:42 PM
8. Not God's Party
A new poll shows Democrats are losing (more) religious voters.
By Amy Sullivan

"The Pew Research Center's annual poll on religion and politics, released last week, shows that while 85 percent of voters say religion is important to them, only 26 percent of Americans think the Democratic Party is "friendly" to religion. That's down from 40 percent in the summer of 2004 and 42 percent the year before that--in other words, a 16-point plunge over three years. "

" Even the party's own may see talk of faith as pandering. Two years ago, half of Democrats thought that their party was friendly to religion. Now that number has dropped to 39.6 percent, with a 12-point decline among respondents who aren't affiliated with a religious tradition. These Democrats view the party's interest in talking to religious voters as a sure betrayal of the party's principles. "

" Another big drop--14 points in two years--surfaced in the percentage of black Protestants who see Democrats as religion-friendly. That's a sure sign that despite their outreach efforts in black churches, Democrats aren't necessarily listening to the folks in the pews. African-Americans may still be the most reliably Democratic constituency, but they are far more socially and theologically conservative than gauzy references to the bygone civil rights era reveal. And they're still not finding a lot of room to talk about those views in the party. "

" Finally, Catholic voters are increasingly skeptical. Support for Democrats' approach to religion dropped by 10 points among Catholic Democrats, 16 points among Catholic Independents, and 25 points among Catholic Republicans, including a 9-point decline just in the last year. As the party hemorrhages Catholic support at the polls,... "

Posted by: howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS on August 29, 2006 09:49 PM
9. 2 points:

1. The Iraq war is over. It ended with the toppling of the Saddam government. It's now a peacekeeper operation engulfed in the real war; the war against Islamic Fascism.

2. Democrats can stop anything they want in the United States Senate by refusing to allow cloture, a Senate rule that requires 60 votes to end debate on any bill before a final vote can be taken. There are 55 Republicans, 5 short of controlling the Senate, with a handful of Liberal Republicans that futher increase the difficulty in winning cloture.

Like Reagan in the 80's, I suspect that much of the "bloat" described is the cost surrendered by Bush in exchange for acquiring the Defense and Homeland Security funding that Democrats would rather abandon if given the opportunity?

Posted by: MJC on August 29, 2006 10:06 PM
10. Is this the type of shrill rhetoric that drives people away from a party?

(The best of Anne Coulter)

"[Clinton] masturbates in the sinks."---Rivera Live 8/2/99

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

The "backbone of the Democratic Party" is a "typical fat, implacable welfare recipient"---syndicated column 10/29/99

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."---MSNBC

"Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let's just call it for what it is. They're whores."---Salon.com 11/16/00

Juan Gonzales is "Cuba's answer to Joey Buttafuoco," a "miscreant," "sperm-donor," and a "poor man's Hugh Hefner."---Rivera Live 5/1/00

On Princess Diana's death: "Her children knew she's sleeping with all these men. That just seems to me, it's the definition of 'not a good mother.' ... Is everyone just saying here that it's okay to ostentatiously have premarital sex in front of your children?"..."[Diana is] an ordinary and pathetic and confessional - I've never had bulimia! I've never had an affair! I've never had a divorce! So I don't think she's better than I am."---MSNBC 9/12/97

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."---Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99

"I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote."---Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01

"If you don't hate Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country."---George, 7/99

"We're now at the point that it's beyond whether or not this guy is a horny hick. I really think it's a question of his mental stability. He really could be a lunatic. I think it is a rational question for Americans to ask whether their president is insane."---Equal Time

"It's enough [to be impeached] for the president to be a pervert."---The Case Against Bill Clinton, Coulter's 1998 book.

"Clinton is in love with the erect penis."---This Evening with Judith Regan, Fox News Channel 2/6/00

"I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don't need any more." Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, "Well, before the New Deal...[The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start."---Politically Incorrect 5/7/97

"If they have the one innocent person who has ever to be put to death this century out of over 7,000, you probably will get a good movie deal out of it."---MSNBC 7/27/97

"If those kids had been carrying guns they would have gunned down this one [child] gunman. ... Don't pray. Learn to use guns."---Politically Incorrect, 12/18/97

"The presumption of innocence only means you don't go right to jail."---Hannity & Colmes 8/24/01

"I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly."---MSNBC 3/22/97

"Originally, I was the only female with long blonde hair. Now, they all have long blonde hair."---CapitolHillBlue.com 6/6/00

"I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn't."---TV Guide 8/97

"Let's say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I'm not married."---Rivera Live 6/7/00

"Anorexics never have boyfriends. ... That's one way to know you don't have anorexia, if you have a boyfriend."---Politically Incorrect 7/21/97

"I think [Whitewater]'s going to prevent the First Lady from running for Senate."---Rivera Live 3/12/99

"My track record is pretty good on predictions."---Rivera Live 12/8/98

"The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals."---Washington Post 8/1/00

On Rep. Christopher Shays (d-CT) in deciding whether to run against him as a Libertarian candidate: "I really want to hurt him. I want him to feel pain."---Hartford Courant 6/25/99

"The swing voters---I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. "---Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."---MSNBC 2/8/97

Posted by: Sorry Charlie on August 29, 2006 10:24 PM
11. To an extent, the Moonbats ARE conseratives' best friends.
I remember back in the 80's when I wasn't particularly political, but I liked and admired President Reagan. I would hear and see all the spitting and shrieking going on by the left against Reagan. And as a fairly non-political girl, I remember hearing those leftist venomous spitters and just shaking my head and wondering how they got to be so strange and scary. It didn't do one thing to get me on their side. I think most people in the middle feel the same way now that I did back then.

Posted by: Misty on August 29, 2006 10:59 PM
12. Nice cut-and-paste "tu quoque" fallacious argument there, Chuckles (#10).
It doesn't do a thing to discredit the original argument, however.

Posted by: pseudotsuga on August 29, 2006 11:15 PM
13. Sorry Charles:

It's one thing for a columnist to write that stuff. That's all she is. A columnist who writes to piss you guys off (And she does it well doesn't she?). One thing is sure, I've never seen her at a GOP function.

BUT when you have leading lights of the Demorat party (Teddy, Dean-O, etc.) reciting Michael Moore's fabrications and giving him a prominent seat at the DNC convention, YOU guys have a problem. Your party is WAY out of the mainstream and is embracing those that are also WAY out of the mainstream. Just look at moveon.org. They are so deep into the DNC they're fighting for control and are winning. Read what's happening over there. Mainstream? I don't think so.

Once again, you guys are all caught up in that liberal feed back loop and can't stop. Looks good in there doesn't it? Don't peek outside though. You might not like what you see.

Posted by: G Jiggy on August 29, 2006 11:18 PM
14. Sorry Charlie: In fact, Clinton DID do it into a sink. Not exactly couth.

Posted by: Misty on August 30, 2006 12:34 AM
15. The Bush Redneck/Creationist crowd is at risk of political isolation - not the Reality-Based Left.

The US electorate is slowly maturing. More of us are educated in liberal values (the Bill of Rights, due process, the Establishment Clause, war as last resort).

Of course, a jihad is a jihad (regardless of the dead, irrelevent prophet) so it is difficult to shake thousands of years of dogma.

There IS hope for the political right - education and reality.

Bush don't like science and data - but the real world depends on it!

Posted by: shrike on August 30, 2006 04:55 AM
16. There IS hope for the political right - education and reality.

Bush don't like science and data - but the real world depends on it!

Yep. Keep repeating the same slogans long enough and they magically become real. The pseudo-intellectual equivalent of endlessly repeating, "I do believe in fairies!"

Posted by: Raoul Ortega on August 30, 2006 07:08 AM
17. """Reality-Based Left.""""
Would that be the group that has to bring court action to prevent voters who aren't smart enough to fillout a voter registration card from being disqualified to vote?
Would that be the group that Democrat governors claim don't know how to get a legimate photo ID? To protect the right to vote of someone who is unable to comprehend the
advantages of having a photo ID in today's society, the Democrat governor vetos the Photo ID Voter Law. A study cited in Wisconsin, claims 177,000 Wisconsin citizens don't have the ability to cash a welfare check.
Would that be the group that got left behind in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina, because
a New Orleans Democrat Mayor and a Louisiana Democrat governor didn't have anyone on their staffs that could read an Evacuation Plan that said they would use school buses to evacuate people, while 500 buses soaked up water?
Would that be the people who pay union dues every month so that the union leaders can send a lot of money to keep Democrat politicians in power. The same Democrat politicians who harass
and accuse American soldiers of war crimes on a daily basis.
Would that be the people who support the Democrat Party 100%. Read what these supporters
say at:
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/769/1/135/


Posted by: Pagar on August 30, 2006 09:00 AM
18. According to the latest CBS poll, cited in the frothing-at-the-mouth moonbat godless commie U.S. News and World Report, Bush's approval ratings remain at 36 percent.

This means that Matt Rosenberg is calling 64 percent of all Americans moonbats. I guess that's fine for your little ever-shrinking right-wing cult. After all, it's classic cult behavior for you to keep propping yourselves up, but the rest of the citizenry isn't buying what you're selling.

Posted by: ivan on August 30, 2006 09:04 AM
19. Pagar @ 17:
Yes, what's your point? The majority of Americans aggree with democrats on voting rights, disaster response and organized labor. So, the question is this: Why do you hate America?

Posted by: Sorry Charlie on August 30, 2006 09:15 AM
20. but the rest of the citizenry isn't buying what you're selling.

Which would certainly explain the majority in the US House of Representatives, the majority in the US Senate, the White House, a conservative SCOTUS and the majority of the nation's governors, right? That's quite a cult.

Contrary to what you 'think' Ivan, if Bush were to embrace actual conservative philosophies and ideals, his numbers would be between 51 and 60 percent. In fact, if he got tough on illegal immigration alone, his numbers would dwart anybody on your side of the aisle.

Tell me again what the Democrats' plan is. We hate Bush and the GOP sucks so vote for us? Yep. That's a winner. You notice it didn't work so well for the GOP against Clinton, so why do you think it's going to work now?

Posted by: jimg on August 30, 2006 09:15 AM
21. edit
You notice it didn't work so well for the GOP against Clinton,

In 1998.

Posted by: jimg on August 30, 2006 09:17 AM
22. Democrats' plan is this: Tell the truth, be competent, and fight corruption.

And that is all they will need.

Posted by: Sorry Charlie on August 30, 2006 09:29 AM
23. The Democrat's plan is to tell the truth? You mean like the lie they tell every chance they get, "Bush plans to privatize Social Security"?

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on August 30, 2006 10:07 AM
24. Sorry Charlie: "Democrats' plan is this: Tell the truth, be competent, and fight corruption."

John Kerry: Incompetent and corrupt liar.

Al Gore: Incompetent and corrupt liar.

You guys might have a plan, but your implementation of that plan has really sucked.

Posted by: Larry on August 30, 2006 10:28 AM
25. Democrats' plan is this: Tell the truth, be competent, and fight corruption. s charlie

Tell the truth. About what? Be specific, please.

Be competent. About what? Be specific, please.

Fight corruption? Okaaay. Are you going to start with your own first or do crooks like William Jefferson and Alan Mollohan get a pass?

See? You have no plan. Your congressional leadership is supposedly talking about a 'plan' to come out after Labor Day, but they still haven't decided on what that plan will be or if there's even any internal support for it.

You simply cannot be "I'm not the other guy" and expect to win.

(whistle) Ivan? What's your plan, buddy?

Posted by: jimg on August 30, 2006 12:00 PM
26. Hey Sorry Charlie-
Great group of quotes - though many of them quite dated and some of the others clearly out of context.

Want to see REAL craziness though? Go read www.democraticunderground.com or most of what goes on huffingtonpost.com.

My older brother was a lifetime democrat until I turned him on to www.democraticunderground.com. He voted for Bush (and republicans) for the first time ever during the last Presidential election cycle, and this is after DECADES of debates with him on the whole repubican versus democrats subject. I could never sway him, but the leftie loonies repulsed him.

Posted by: Johnny on August 30, 2006 12:36 PM
27. My points are that: even thro the Democrat governors veto Photo ID bills, the bills keep getting reintroduced. The majority of Americans
want to know that only eligible voters are casting only one ballot in each election.



Jim Doyle again vetoed a bill that would require voters to show a photo ID before casting a ballot. This is the third time he has vetoed a voter ID bill. ...
www.jsonline.com/news/editorials/aug05/349636.asp - 45k - Cached - Similar pages

Disaster Response--http://www.fbi.gov/katrina.htm
you can read about disaster response by clicking on the latest news in the article.

Organized labor--from unionfacts.com we find:


Government employees are more than four times likelier to be unionized than their private-sector counterparts. Taxpayer-funded jobs are the only sector of the economy where unions have consistently grown for several years. And taxpayers are left with the check, rung up by government employee union officials and the politicians all too eager to appease them.""""
No Democrat politician votes against public unions, because the unions make the contributions.
Private union membership is down, down, down.
I submit that proves the majority view of unions.

Hate for America is found in John Kerry's speech
on 22 Apr 1971 in front of the Senate Subcommittee on Foreign Relations: """""""""""" I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points """""
That action is covered under the US Constitution. Article III Section III.

Posted by: Pagar on August 30, 2006 03:44 PM
28. Most Democrats are not moonbats. I've got several friends that vote Democrat. They are pretty normal people. I think they mostly vote Democrat out of ignorance or out of Democrat Party appeal to their sense of guilt.

But Moonbats are indeed the GOP's best friends. I'm continualy impressed by the bile that comes from people like David Goldstein. It's very juvenile. It's impossible for Goldstein to appear to the average Democrat as a credible voice when he then goes and writes the things he does on his blog. To me, that's the definition of a moonbat. Someone who wants to appear as a credible political voice, but then goes and displays some kind of completely unhinged and socially unacceptable behavior.

Want another example? I've got a relaitve that is absolutely convinced that George Bush purposely blew up the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11. That's a moonbat. Despite rigorous and highly detailed engineering studies and infomration that meticulously debunks the 9/11 myths, this person still believes that the towers were purposely destroyed. An unwillingness to be even flinch in the face of reason. That's another defition of a moonbat.

Again, I do not believe that most Democrats are moonbats. Certainly my above mentioned friends would never ever agree to the crazy 9/11 myths about the towers. But, Matt is right. There's a willingness amongst a relatively large and vocal portion of the left, to go completely off the deep end into profanity, or mythology or whatever, as long as it's irrational. And the moonbat Left gets a large amount of media coverage to air their unhinged views, assuring that a lot of people get to compare their antics with those of most normal and generally rational people. These moonbats are definitely impacting the Democrats in a very negative way. They are constantly opening the door to quick marginialization and affiliation with lunacy for mainstream Democrats.

You can't buy this kind of marketing and support. God love moonbats. I hope they keep it up.

Posted by: Jeff B. on August 30, 2006 04:23 PM
29. I just found this at democraticunderground.com

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2486881

Along with "Blacks can't swim" and "Macaca," Sen. Burns' recent comments are definately going to benefit democratic campaigns nation-wide by driving moderates away from the GOP.

So yes, this phenomenon takes place on both the left and the right. Clearly, the only people qualified to judge which side is worse are genuine swing voters. We'll see what they decide in November.

Posted by: Sorry Charlie on August 31, 2006 12:48 PM
30. "Along with "Blacks can't swim" and "Macaca," Sen. Burns' recent comments are definately going to benefit democratic campaigns nation-wide by driving moderates away from the GOP."

Or Charlie, it could have the opposite effect. Depends on how sick swing voters are of political correctness and it's one-sided enforcement by the leftie media.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on August 31, 2006 03:13 PM
31. Speaking of Anti-Bush Moonbats, the group World Can't Wait took out a full page ad in the New York Times yesterday. "ANOTHER FULL-PAGE AD IN NEW YORK TIMES CALLS FOR OCTOBER 5 PROTESTS TO DRIVE OUT THE BUSH REGIME" 30-second spots will also begin appearing soon on Air America.

http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2784&Itemid=10

"Walk out of school! Refuse to work! No shopping on Oct. 5! ?March through the streets calling on millions more to join us in repudiating this criminal regime with the mobilization of massive political opposition!"

Check out the list of supporters. All the usual suspects are there, Harry Belafonte, Jesse Jackson, Cindy Sheehan, Cornell West, Jane Fonda, Ward Churchill, Gore Vidal, Cynthia McKinney, and on, and on. The full list of supporters is a virtual who's who of the American moonbat left.

This ought to really help win over swing voters to the Democrats!

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on August 31, 2006 04:04 PM
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