August 28, 2006
Neal Starkman Wants To Help The Republicans

How do I know?  Because he wants to discourage "stupid" (his word) people from voting.

Now we've entered the primary season.  I plead with you -- don't vote if you're not familiar with the issues or the candidates.  Don't encourage stupid people to vote.
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But voting because you're just plain dumb or "misinformed" -- that's inexcusable.

I won't go through the rest of his column which is, unintentionally, quite funny.  (How so?  He berates the ignorant and misinformed, but makes a few mistakes of his own.)  But I will try to explain why his proposal would help the Republicans.

Starkman confuses two distinct concepts in the column.  We ordinarily use "stupid" or "dumb" to mean someone with a low IQ.  But someone can have a high IQ and still be uninformed, or misinformed.  If I were feeling mean, I would name entire fields that are full of such people.  But I am not, so I will just say that a smarter and better informed person than Starkman would not confuse these concepts.

Ordinarily, commercial polls do not try to measure either IQ or how well informed voters are.   But they do consistently ask for levels of education.  And they consistently find that those with the least education are more likely to vote for Democratic candidates.  Here are some examples from the November 12th, 2000 issue of the New York Times.  (Which I picked because it was on the top of a pile of papers on my desk.)  In that issue, the Times gave the voting patterns for the 1976 through 2000 presidential elections.  In all except the 1976 election, the surveys of voters leaving the polls asked the voters how far they had gone in school.  The lowest category they report is "not a high school graduate".  Democrats won the following percentages of that group for the 1980 through 2000 elections: 51, 50, 56, 54, 59, and 59.  Those with the least education were consistently more likely to vote for the Democrats.  (And, remember, some of those were three-way races.)

Is it fair to say that those who did not graduate from high school are less intelligent and less informed than those with more education?  Yes, as long as we understand that we are talking about averages.  I have known more than one person without a high school education who was both intelligent and well informed, but, on the average, those who did not finish high school are both less intelligent and less informed.

If this group were to follow Starkman's advice and not vote, they would give the Republicans an extra point or two in most elections.  In Washington state, that would have meant defeats for Maria Cantwell in the 2000 senatorial election and for Christine Gregoire in 2004 gubernatorial election.

Despite the partisan advantage this would give Republicans, I can not endorse Starkman's proposal, though I do think those who will not take the time to learn how to use our voting systems should not vote.  Instead, we want to encourage these less educated people to learn more about issues and candidates.  As they do, I think they will be more likely to support the Republican party.  In fact, I will go farther.  If Neal Starkman were to read Sound Politics and my own humble site regularly, I think he, too, would become better informed, though perhaps not more intelligent.  And that might lead him to vote for the party headed by a Harvard MBA, rather than the party of Patty Murray.

(Starkman made essentially the same argument a couple of years ago, and I refuted it then.

When I did, I threw in this bone for Democrats.

. . . at the very highest levels of education, college professors and the like, Democrats again have the edge in support, just as they do among felons and journalists.  Political scientists sometimes describe the relationship between education and party in the United States as a "J curve", since support for Democrats looks a bit like a J when graphed against education.

And what do you find if combine all the voters?  You find that, on the average, in most elections, Republican voters have a few more years of education than Democratic voters and are, on the average, a little better informed and, yes, a little more intelligent.)

Posted by Jim Miller at August 28, 2006 03:44 PM | Email This
Comments
1. The Left has been dominant in colleges, public schools, news media, and mass media for years. They've also succeeded in getting generations of people to rely on liberal social service programs. Yet the Left hasn't been able to turn those advantages into political dominance. How inept can they be?

Posted by: MES on August 28, 2006 04:39 PM
2. So the Donks do best in the group so uneducated as to be stupid, and so well educated as to be back to stupid again?

Posted by: krm on August 28, 2006 07:06 PM
3. There are a few ballots that were counted in the 2004 Recount debacle that were filled out by people too stupid to do so properly whom I wish wouldn't have voted.

Posted by: Reporterward on August 28, 2006 07:46 PM
4. Starkman sounds like a liberal masquerading as a non-partisan - did he calli people stupid who support the war on Islamofascism ? He didn't mention specifically securing our borders. He dwelled on health-care as Dems love to do. I thought he referred to Bush and much of Congress as stupid.

The left may have the edge in being educated, but when it comes to common sense, so many of them are downright STUPID ! They can live in the theoretical world, but the real world is different and they have a diffiicult time handling that. Look at the mainstream Democrat party - if they were in power, our security and solvency as a Democratic Republic would be in serious jeopardy !

Posted by: KS on August 28, 2006 08:17 PM
5. The phenomena that Jim is pointing out (low educational levels = Democrat voter) is something I have suspected for years and believe to be entirely intentional. Why else would Democrat controlled institutions put up with such miserable education numbers and do nothing to improve them? Easy. Functional illiterates are the most malleable to the wealth transfer, big government and victim based policies of liberals. They are simply building their constituency.

This is why once we get a true voucher system, the liberal agenda will collapse like the house of cards that it is. No state sponsored schools, no liberal indoctrination.

Posted by: G Jiggy on August 28, 2006 09:06 PM
6. We have the results of stupid people voting in the Governor's office right now. Or maybe I should say when she bothers to come back from her multiple multiple European Junkets to visit her plush office in Olympia!

Posted by: GS on August 28, 2006 10:58 PM
7. G Jiggy. I know a person who did some IT work for the NEA a few years back. He claims, based on overheard conversations that keeping the education quality low is a deliberate goal of the NEA. He said they fully understand that less well educated people tend (on average) to vote Democratic and so quality education is really a goal that is in direct conflict with their other agenda items.

Posted by: Mike Lamb on August 28, 2006 11:52 PM
8. So Neil Starkman, by his own admission, shouldn't be voting. Why did the P-I even bother to print this nonsense? I can't wait for this to be a no newspaper town. I won't miss the Times or P-I.

Posted by: AP on August 29, 2006 02:03 AM
9. Gee, you mean the peuw!(said with nose acually Plugged)said some with some kernels of truth!! Man this is a shock!! I like jim's idea becoming more informed certainly helps.

Posted by: Laurie on August 29, 2006 09:59 PM
10. I've written before about the Stupid Factor, which seems to govern way too many people's voting behaviors

THE STUPID FACTOR SEEMS TO BE HIS OPINION OF PEOPLE NOT VOTING THE WAY HE WANTS

Now we've entered the primary season
DOES HE REALY FEEL THAT THE MASSES DO NOT KNOW THIS?
I can understand people voting out of greed.
SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER REPUBLICAN?
But voting because you're just plain dumb or "misinformed" -- that's inexcusable
WRITING ARTICLES LIKE THIS WITH NO VALID ANSWER TO THE QUESTION DOES NOTHING FOR THE MASSES.
If we're on the right track in Iraq, why is everything so much worse there now than when Saddam Hussein was in power
WHEN WAS HE THERE? WHAT SORCE OF INFORMATION DOES HE HAVE OTHER THAN NEWS? WHAT SLANT DOES THE NEWS HAVE DUMBER AND DUMBER?
If our economy really thrives when we give tax cuts to the very, very, very, very rich, all the while spending billions in the Middle East, why are we borrowing money from China?
FIND OUT WHAT THE WORLD BANK DOES.
How exactly is gay marriage a threat to heterosexual marriage?
RELIGION HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS. WARS ARE STARTED
IN YOUR GODS NAME AND AS LONG AS YOUR GOD IS RIGHT THEN WHY NOT?

If it's OK for us to torture prisoners months after they were captured, who presumably have no current information of use to us, and if it's OK for us to incarcerate them forever without access to legal counsel, and if it's OK for us to do all this in another country under the auspices of the U.S. government, what wouldn't it be OK for us to do
WE ARE AT WAR STUPID!!!!
How does it benefit us to discount scientific and medical data, whether it's about global warming, stem-cell research or environmental pollution?
ALL OF THESE ARE FORMS OF POPULATION CONTROL, THE WEATHER KILLS, THERFORE LESS PEOPLE TO COLLECT SOCIAL SECURITY. STEM CELL RESEARCH WILL CURE KILLER DECEASES AND THERE AGAIN PEOPLE WILL CALL ON THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM IN THEIR LATER YEARS. POLLUTION
GE NERATES CHANGE AND ADAPTATION IS IMPORTANT TO HUMANKIND. ON THE OTHER HAND THOSE WHO DO NOT ADAPT WILL PARISH AND THERE AGAIN LESS WILL BE THERE TO COLLECT ON SOCIAL SECURITY.


How will we know when we've won the war on terror?
ONLY AFTER RELIGION IS ELIMINATED WILL THE WAR END.

If the president can disobey laws that he feels are cramping his style, what are the limits to his power?
THESE UNITED STATES HVE BEEN UNDER ADMIRALTY LAW SINCE WWII THIS GIVES THE PRESIDENT POWERS THAT RENEW EVERY TWENTY YEARS PROVIDED WE ARE AT WAR. WAR ON DRUGS, TERROR, HUNGER, ETC. LOOK IT UP DUMBER AND DUMBER.

Far be it from me to supply answers to these questions; the idea is to think about them.
WITH OUT SUPPLY ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS IS LIKE SPITING IN YOUR DINER GUESSS PLATE BEFORE SURVING THE FOOD.

Maybe this is obvious to you.
OK, NOW WHAT?

Midyear elections are important
TRUE, FIND OUT MORE ABOUT YOU CONGRESSMAN OR SENIOR BEFORE VOTING. LOOK TO THEIR VOTING ON ISSUES AND DECIDE IF IT IS HOW YOU WANT THE COUNTY TO WORK.

Don't be stupid. It matters.

THIS COME FROM SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN SEATTLE?

Neal Starkman lives in Seattle

Posted by: R HOLMES on August 30, 2006 06:02 AM
11. It sounds as though Neal could "help" everyone through the liberal application of carbon monoxide...

Posted by: alphabet soup on August 30, 2006 07:48 AM
12. THE STUPID FACTOR SEEMS TO BE HIS OPINION OF PEOPLE NOT VOTING THE WAY HE WANTS

That may be true, so touche, but the unironic intent remains true as well: people are collectively reactive, and will do stupid and impulsive things given the proper stimuli. This is proven in scientific study after study (sorry I don�t have all the footnotes here).

DOES HE REALY FEEL THAT THE MASSES DO NOT KNOW THIS?

Perhaps; the 'masses' certainly barely know what a 'primary' even is. (Sorry, but yes, I agree that most people are too stupid to be let loose on the world.)

WRITING ARTICLES LIKE THIS WITH NO VALID ANSWER TO THE QUESTION DOES NOTHING FOR THE MASSES.

True enough � because the �masses� collectively act with such consistent stupidity that this article will have no effect on them. However, he is proposing the answer: study up for the primaries!


WHEN WAS HE THERE? WHAT SORCE OF INFORMATION DOES HE HAVE OTHER THAN NEWS? WHAT SLANT DOES THE NEWS HAVE DUMBER AND DUMBER?

No one source can paint a decent picture, however hundreds upon hundreds of sources over the past few years are shining light on a general picture, and a general world consensus (yes, WORLD consensus): Iraq is FUCKED. We stay, we get killed. This is PNAC�s war, not some good-intentioned �end terror in the free world and spread democracy� effort. Only a complete idiot could actually believe the White House line on that one.


RELIGION HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS. WARS ARE STARTED
IN YOUR GOD�S NAME AND AS LONG AS YOUR GOD IS RIGHT THEN WHY NOT?

True enough. You fall into your own trap however � why ask if you have no solution? Religion will never go away, so long as people crave certainty and meaning for their uncertain and meaningless lives.


WE ARE AT WAR STUPID!!!!

Bad answer, bad logic. The point of the entire exercise was to bring the American ideal of freedom and democracy to the greater world; by tyrannically bypassing the very foundations of WHAT MAKES US ACTUALLY DIFFERENT from everyone else, throughout most of history, negates the whole argument. �We can act like this, but YOU cannot.� = that is the US tacit directive, and has been for decades.


ALL OF THESE ARE FORMS OF POPULATION CONTROL, THE WEATHER KILLS, THERFORE LESS PEOPLE TO COLLECT SOCIAL SECURITY. STEM CELL RESEARCH WILL CURE KILLER DECEASES AND THERE AGAIN PEOPLE WILL CALL ON THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM IN THEIR LATER YEARS. POLLUTION
GE NERATES CHANGE AND ADAPTATION IS IMPORTANT TO HUMANKIND. ON THE OTHER HAND THOSE WHO DO NOT ADAPT WILL PARISH AND THERE AGAIN LESS WILL BE THERE TO COLLECT ON SOCIAL SECURITY.

Adaptation is one thing, but takes hundreds of thousands of years; current climate analysis (�current� meaning the last 50 years) has the foundations of our living situation changing over the next couple hundred = not enough time. Most folks don�t think about these things too hard or too deeply though, and are content to follow nurture and community to �answer� these concerns; science is hard and scary, and poorly taught in primary schools, and is only for eggheads who talk with big, hard words. Screw them.


ONLY AFTER RELIGION IS ELIMINATED WILL THE WAR END.

Eh, only partially � since that would necessitate (truly) the invention of some other ideology for which to corrupt minds and kill.


THESE UNITED STATES HVE BEEN UNDER ADMIRALTY LAW SINCE WWII THIS GIVES THE PRESIDENT POWERS THAT RENEW EVERY TWENTY YEARS PROVIDED WE ARE AT WAR. WAR ON DRUGS, TERROR, HUNGER, ETC. LOOK IT UP DUMBER AND DUMBER.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiralty_law -
I don�t immediately see how this applies�.? How does jurisdiction over shipping rights and claims state that a US President gets to disavow the framework of checks & balances?....


WITH OUT SUPPLY ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS IS LIKE SPITING IN YOUR DINER GUESS�S PLATE BEFORE SURVING THE FOOD.

No, asking the question fosters discussion, which hopefully gets people actually thinking about their positions. Many of the conflicts that exist in life actually do stem from people holding to convictions that they�ve never fully thought through. These questions DO have answers � but the answers will be different for each person; dictating a single answer is the job of � a dictator.

Posted by: tg on August 30, 2006 01:25 PM
13. (sorry for the goofy characters in the last, I was trying to use actual punctuation.)

Posted by: tg on August 30, 2006 01:28 PM
14. tg, thanks for taking the time to answer R Holmes' inane post, though I wonder why you would? I mean, I'm not sure this guy deserved a serious response: in trying to dump on Starkman all he accomplished was to reinforce his views on the prevalence of stupid people.

And by the way, whether Repub or Dem, I agree there are way too many uninformed people being allowed to vote, and I would seriously be open to reinstating some form of a policy or political competency test before allowing just anyone to vote, even though I think such a thing would be impossible to structure in a way that would pass muster with either party. Which is a shame.

Posted by: MJ on August 30, 2006 03:40 PM
15. HEY MJ
STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES! A POLITICAL COMPETENCY TEST? WOULD YOU SET IT UP BY SEX THEN RACE?

tg

Admiralty on Land!!
Where's the Water?

Below is a letter that sums up what is wrong with the our union of Sovereign states (but like always, do some research to find out if this is true, then you have the knowledge and the understanding).
(((( Please review the data concerning the subversion of our nation at web sites
"THE BRITISH LEGAL SYSTEM OF MIXED COMMON AND ROMAN LAW HAS BEEN USED TO ENSLAVE US(A)" - http://www.detaxcanada.org/cmlaw1.htm
and "Admiralty Courts in Colorado?" - http://www.frii.com/~gosplow/admir.html
Inform all of the members of the veterans organizations in your town and concerned citizens everywhere to the exact extent that we have been misinformed.))))
This Treason and Tyranny by the bankers, the lawyers and judiciary, the bought politicians, and other vested interests is not what we or our ancestors fought and died for.
It is time for all men who took the oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to be fully informed and take the actions necessary to uphold their oath. This is no time for us to rest on the laurels of our past. The best action we can take is to inform all the people so they can make fully informed decisions at the ballot box.
Thank you for your attention and assistance in passing this data along to We the People!!

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AMERICAN PEOPLE, YOU have the ability to understand the information in this letter. YOU have the ability to understand the present law and past law, the Constitution. That's right!...I'm saying the Constitution is past tense, as a restrictive document on Congress. I do not make this statement lightly and I can prove it.
The Constitution was a commercial compact between states, giving the federal government limited powers. The Bill of Rights was meant not as our source of rights, but as further limitations on the federal government. Our fore-fathers saw the potential for danger in the U. S. Constitution. To insure the Constitution was not presumed to be our source of rights, the 10th Amendment was added. I will use a quote from Thomas Jefferson, February 15, 1791, where he quotes the 10th Amendment...
"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground; That "all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people." To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition."
The created United States government cannot define the rights of their creator, the American people. Three forms of law were granted to the Constitution, common law, equity (contract law) and Admiralty law. Each had their own jurisdiction and purpose. The first issue I want to cover is the United States flag. Obviously from known history our flag did not have a yellow fringe bordering three sides. The United States did not start putting flags with a yellow fringe on them in government buildings and public buildings until 1959. Of course the question you would ask yourself; why did it change and are there any legal meanings behind this? Oh yes!
First the appearance of our flag is defined in Title 4 sec. 1. U.S.C..
"The flag of the United States shall be thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white; and the union of the flag shall be forty-eight stars, white in a blue field." (Note - of course when new states are admitted new stars are added.)
A foot note was added on page 1113 of the same section which says:
"Placing of fringe on the national flag, the dimensions of the flag, and arrangement of the stars are matters of detail not controlled by statute, but within the discretion of the President as Commander-In-Chief of the Army and Navy." - 1925, 34 Op.Atty.Gen. 483.
The president as military commander can add a yellow fringe to our flag. When would this be done? During a time of war. Why? A flag with a fringe is an ensign, a military flag. Read the following.
"Pursuant to U.S.C. Chapter 1, 2, and 3; Executive Order No. 10834, August 21, 1959, 24 F.R. 6865, a military flag is a flag that resembles the regular flag of the United States, except that it has a YELLOW FRINGE, bordered on three sides. The President of the United states designates this deviation from the regular flag, by executive order, and in his capacity as COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF of the Armed forces."
From the National Encyclopedia, Volume 4:
"Flag, an emblem of a nation; usually made of cloth and flown from a staff. From a military standpoint flags are of two general classes, those flown from stationary masts over army posts, and those carried by troops in formation. The former are referred to by the general name flags. The latter are called colors when carried by dismounted troops. Colors and Standards are more nearly square than flags and are made of silk with a knotted Fringe of Yellow on three sides...........use of the flag. The most general and appropriate use of the flag is as a symbol of authority and power."
The reason I started with the Flag issue is because it is so easy to grasp. The main problem I have with the yellow fringe is that by its use our Constitutional Republic is no more. Our system of law was changed without the public's knowledge. It was kept secret. This is fraud. The American people were allowed to believe this was just a decoration. Because the law changed from Common Law (God's Law) to Admiralty Law (the kings law) your status also changed from sovereign to subject. From being able to own property (allodial title) to not owning property (tenet on the land). If you think you own your property, stop paying taxes, it will be taken under the prize law.
"The ultimate ownership of all property is in the state; individual so-called `ownership' is only by virtue of government, i.e., law, amounting to a mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State." - Senate Document No. 43, "Contracts payable in Gold" written in 1933.
By our allowing to let these military flags fly, the American people have admitted our defeat and loss of status. Read on, you'll see what I mean. Remember the Constitution recognizes three forms of law, being governed by the Law of the Flag is Admiralty law. I will cover this in a minute, the following is a definition of the legal term Law of the Flag.
"...The agency of the master is devolved upon him by the law of the flag. The same law that confers his authority ascertains its limits, and the flag at the mast-head is notice to all the world of the extent of such power to bind the owners or freighters by his act. The foreigner who deals with this agent has notice of that law, and, if he be bound by it, there is not injustice. His notice is the national flag which is hoisted on every sea and under which the master sails into every port, and every circumstance that connects him with the vessel isolates that vessel in the eyes of the world, and demonstrates his relation to the owners and freighters as their agent for a specific purpose and with power well defined under the national maritime law." - Bouvier's Law Dictionary, 1914.
Don't be thrown by the fact they are talking about the sea, and that it doesn't apply to land, I will prove to you that Admiralty law has come on land. Next a court case:
"Pursuant to the "Law of the Flag", a military flag does result in jurisdictional implication when flown. The Plaintiff cites the following: "Under what is called international law, the law of the flag, a shipowner who sends his vessel into a foreign port gives notice by his flag to all who enter into contracts with the shipmaster that he intends the law of the flag to regulate those contracts with the shipmaster that he either submit to its operation or not contract with him or his agent at all." - Ruhstrat v. People, 57 N.E. 41, 45, 185 ILL. 133, 49 LRA 181, 76 AM.
When you walk into a court and see this flag you are put on notice that you are in a Admiralty Court and that the king is in control. Also, if there is a king the people are no longer sovereign. You're probably saying this is the most incredible thing I have ever heard. YOU have read the proof, it will stand up in court. But wait, there is more, you probably would say, how could this happen? Here's how. Admiralty law is for the sea, maritime law govern's contracts between parties that trade over the sea. Well, that's what our fore-fathers intended. However, in 1845 Congress passed an act saying Admiralty law could come on land. The bill may be traced in Cong. Globe, 28th Cong., 2d. Sess. 43, 320, 328, 337, 345(1844-45), no opposition to the Act is reported. Congress held a committee on this subject in 1850 and they said:
"The committee also alluded to "the great force" of "the great constitutional question as to the power of Congress to extend maritime jurisdiction beyond the ground occupied by it at the adoption of the Constitution...." - Ibid. H.R. Rep. No. 72 31st Cong., 1st Sess. 2 (1850)
It was up to the Supreme Court to stop Congress and say NO! The Constitution did not give you that power, nor was it intended. But no, the courts began a long train of abuses, here are some excerpts from a few court cases.
"This power is as extensive upon land as upon water. The Constitution makes no distinction in that respect. And if the admiralty jurisdiction, in matters of contract and tort which the courts of the United States may lawfully exercise on the high seas, can be extended to the lakes under the power to regulate commerce, it can with the same propriety and upon the same construction, be extended to contracts and torts on land when the commerce is between different States. And it may embrace also the vehicles and persons engaged in carrying it on (my note - remember what the law of the flag said when you receive benefits from the king.) It would be in the power of Congress to confer admiralty jurisdiction upon its courts, over the cars engaged in transporting passengers or merchandise from one State to another, and over the persons engaged in conducting them, and deny to the parties the trial by jury. Now the judicial power in cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction, has never been supposed to extend to contracts made on land and to be executed on land. But if the power of regulating commerce can be made the foundation of jurisdiction in its courts, and a new and extended admiralty jurisdiction beyond its heretofore known and admitted limits, may be created on water under that authority, the same reason would justify the same exercise of power on land." -- Propeller Genessee Chief et al. v. Fitzhugh et al. 12 How. 443 (U.S. 1851)
And all the way back, before the U.S. Constitution John Adams talking about his state's Constitution, said:
"Next to revenue (taxes) itself, the late extensions of the jurisdiction of the admiralty are our greatest grievance. The American Courts of Admiralty seem to be forming by degrees into a system that is to overturn our Constitution and to deprive us of our best inheritance, the laws of the land. It would be thought in England a dangerous innovation if the trial, of any matter on land was given to the admiralty." -- Jackson v. Magnolia, 20 How. 296 315, 342 (U.S. 1852)
This began the most dangerous precedent of all the Insular Cases. This is where Congress took a boundless field of power. When legislating for the states, they are bound by the Constitution, when legislating for their insular possessions they are not restricted in any way by the Constitution. Read the following quote from the Harvard law review of AMERICAN INS. CO. v. 356 BALES OF COTTON, 26 U.S. 511, 546 (1828), relative to our insular possessions:
"These courts, then, are not constitutional courts in which the judicial power conferred by the Constitution on the general government can be deposited. They are incapable of receiving it. They are legislative courts, created in virtue of the general right of sovereignty which exists in the government, or in virtue of that clause which enables Congress to make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory belonging to the united States. The jurisdiction with which they are invested is not a part of that judicial power which is conferred in the third article of the Constitution, but is conferred by Congress in the execution of those general powers which that body possesses over the territories of the United States." -- Harvard Law Review, Our New Possessions. page 481.
Here are some Court cases that make it even clearer:
"...[T]he United States may acquire territory by conquest or by treaty, and may govern it through the exercise of the power of Congress conferred by Section 3 of Article IV of the Constitution..." "In exercising this power, Congress is not subject to the same constitutional limitations, as when it is legislating for the United States. ...And in general the guaranties of the Constitution, save as they are limitations upon the exercise of executive and legislative power when exerted for or over our insular possessions, extend to them only as Congress, in the exercise of its legislative power over territory belonging to the United States, has made those guarantees applicable." -- Hooven & Allison & Co. vs Evatt, 324 U.S. 652 (1945)

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"The idea prevails with some indeed, it found _expression in arguments at the bar that we have in this country substantially or practically two national governments; one to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and independently of that instrument, by exercising such powers as other nations of the earth are accustomed to exercise."
"I take leave to say that if the principles thus announced should ever receive the sanction of a majority of this court, a radical and mischievous change in our system of government will be the result. We will, in that event, pass from the era of constitutional liberty guarded and protected by a written constitution into an era of legislative absolutism."
"It will be an evil day for American liberty if the theory of a government outside of the supreme law of the land finds lodgment in our constitutional jurisprudence. No higher duty rests upon this court than to exert its full authority to prevent all violation of the principles of the constitution." -- Downes vs Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901)
These actions allowed Admiralty law to come on land. If you will remember the definition of the Law of the Flag. When you receive benefits or enter into contracts with the king you come under his law which is Admiralty law. And what is a result of your connection with the king? A loss of your Sovereign status. Our ignorance of the law is no excuse. I'll give you an example, something you deal with everyday. Let's say you get a seat belt ticket. What law did you violate? Remember the Constitution recognizes three forms of law. Was it common law? Who was the injured party? No one. So it could not have been common law even though here, the State of N. C. has made chapter 20 of the Motor Vehicle code carry common law penalties, jail time. This was the only thing they could do to cover up the jurisdiction they were operating in. Was it Equity law? No, there is no contract in dispute, driving is a privilege granted by the king. If it were a contract the UCC would apply, and it doesn't. In a contract both parties have equal rights. In a privilege, you do as you are told or the privilege is revoked. Well guess what, there is only one form of law left, admiralty. Ask yourself when did licenses begin to be required? 1933.
All district courts are admiralty courts, see the Judiciary Act of 1789.
"It is only with the extent of powers possessed by the district courts, acting as instance courts of admiralty, we are dealing. The Act of 1789 gives the entire constitutional power to determine "all civil causes of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction," leaving the courts to ascertain its limits, as cases may arise." -- Waring ET AL,. v. Clarke, Howard 5 12 L. ed. 1847
When you enter a court room and come before the judge and the U.S. flag with the yellow fringe flying, you are put on notice of the law you are in. American's aren't aware of this, so they continue to claim Constitutional rights. In the Admiralty setting the constitution does not apply and the judge, if pushed, will inform you of this by placing you under contempt for continuing to bring it up. If the judge is pressed, his name for this hidden law is statuary law. Where are the rules and regulations for statutory law kept? They don't exist. If statuary law existed, there would be rules and regulations governing it's procedures and court rules. They do not exist!!!
The way you know this is Admiralty, is from the yellow fringed flag and from the actions of the law, compelled performance (Admiralty). The judges can still move at common law (murder etc.) and equity (contract disputes etc.). It's up to the type of case brought before the court. If the case is Admiralty, the only way back to the common law is the saving to suitor clause and action under Admiralty. The court and rules of all three jurisdictions have been blended. Under Admiralty you are compelled to perform under the agreement you made by asking and receiving the king's government (license). You receive the benefit of driving on federal roads (military roads), so you have voluntarily obligated yourself to this system of law, this is why you are compelled to obey. If you don't it will cost you money or jail time or both. The type of offence determines the jurisdiction you come under, but the court itself is an Admiralty court, defined by the flag. Driving without a seat belt under Chapter 20 DMV code carries a criminal penalty for a non common law offense. Again where is the injured party or parties, this is Admiralty law. Here is a quote to prove what I said about the roads being military, this is only one benefit, there are many:
"Whilst deeply convinced of these truths, I yet consider it clear that under the war-making power Congress may appropriate money toward the construction of a military road when this is absolutely necessary for the defense of any State or Territory of the Union against foreign invasion. Under the Constitution Congress has power "to declare war," "to raise and support armies," "to provide and maintain a navy," and to call forth the militia to "repel invasions." Thus endowed, in an ample manner, with the war-making power, the corresponding duty is required that "the United States shall protect each of them [the States] against invasion." Now, how is it possible to afford this protection to California and our Pacific possessions except by means of a military road through the Territories of the United States, over which men and munitions of war may be speedily transported from the Atlantic States to meet and to repel the invader?.... Besides, the Government, ever since its origin, has been in the constant practice of constructing military roads." -- Inaugural Address of James Buchanan, March 4, 1857,..Messages and Papers of the Presidents, 1789-1902.
I want to briefly mention the Social Security Act, the nexus Agreement you have with the king. You were told the SS# was for retirement and you had to have it to work. It sounds like a license to me, and it is, it is a license granted by the President to work in this country, under the Trading with the Enemy Act, as amended in March 9, 1933, as you will see in a moment. Was it really for your retirement? What does F.I.C.A. stand for? Federal Insurance Contribution Act. What does contribution mean at law, not Webster's Dictionary. This is where they were able to get you to admit that you were jointly responsible for the national debt, and you declared that you were a fourteenth Amendment citizen, which I won't go into in this paper or the Erie Railroad v. Tompkins case where common law was over turned. Read the following definition to learn what it means to have a SS# and pay a contribution:
"Contribution. Right of one who has discharged a common liability to recover of another also liable, the aliquot portion which he ought to pay or bear. Under principle of "contribution," a tort-feasor against whom a judgement is rendered is entitled to recover proportional shares of judgement from other joint tort-feasor whose negligence contributed to the injury and who were also liable to the plaintiff. (Note - tort feasor means wrong doer, what did you do to be defined as a wrong doer???) The share of a loss payable by an insure when contracts with two or more insurers cover the same loss. The insurer's share of a loss under a coinsurance or similar provision. The sharing of a loss or payment among several. The act of any one or several of a number of co-debtors, co-sureties, etc., in reimbursing one of their number who has paid the whole debt or suffered the whole liability, each to the extent of his proportionate share. -- (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th ed.)
Guess what? It gets worse. What does this date 1933 mean? Well you better sit down. First, remember World War I, in 1917 President Wilson declared the War Powers Act of October 6, 1917, basically stating that he was stopping all trade with the enemy except for those he granted a license, excluding Americans. Read the following from this Trading with the enemy Act, where he defines enemy: In the War Powers Act of 1917, Chapter 106, Section 2 (c) it says that these declared war powers did not affect citizens of the United States:
"Such other individuals, or body or class of individuals, as may be natives, citizens, or subjects of any nation with which the United States is at war, OTHER THAN CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES, wherever resident or wherever doing business, as the President, if he shall find the safety of the United States of the successful prosecution of the war shall so require, may, by proclamation, include within the term "enemy."
Now, this leads us up to 1933. Our country was recovering from a depression and now was declared bankrupt. I know you are saying. Do What, the American people were never told about this? Public policy and National Security overruled the public right to know. Read the following Congressional quote:
"My investigation convinced me that during the last quarter of a century the average production of gold has been falling off considerably. The gold mines of the world are practically exhausted. There is only about $11,000,000,000 in gold in the world, with the United States owning a little more than four billions. We have more than $100,000,000,000 in debts payable in gold of the present weight and fineness. . . As a practical proposition these contracts cannot be collected in gold for the obvious reason that the gold supply of the entire world is not sufficient to make payment." -- Congressional Record, Congressman Dies, March 15, 1933
Before 1933 all contracts with the government were payable in gold. Now I ask you? Who in their right mind would enter into contracts totaling One Hundred billion dollars in gold, when there was only eleven billion in gold in the whole world, and we had about four billion. To keep from being hung by the American public they obeyed the banksters demands and turned over our country to them. They never came out and said we were in bankruptcy but, the fact remains, we are. In 1933 the gold of the whole country had to be turned in to the banksters, and all government contracts in gold were canceled. This is bankruptcy.
"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. government." -- Congressman Traficant on the House floor, March 17, 1933
The wealth of the nation including our land was turned over to the banksters. In return, the nations 100 billion dollar debt was forgiven. I have two papers that have circulated the country on this subject. Remember Jesus said "money is the root of all evil" The Congress of 1933 sold every American into slavery to protect their asses. Read the following Congressional quotes:
"I want to show you where the people are being imposed upon by reason of the delegation of this tremendous power. I invite your attention to the fact that section 16 of the Federal Reserve Act provides that whenever the Government of the United States issues and delivers money, Federal Reserve notes, which are based on the credit of the Nation--they represent a mortgage upon your home and my home, and upon all the property of all the people of the Nation--to the Federal Reserve agent, an interest charge shall be collected for the Government." -- Congressional Record, Congressman Patman, March 13, 1933

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"That is the equity of what we are about to do. Yes; you are going to close us down. Yes; you have already closed us down, and have been doing it long before this year. Our President says that for 3 years we have been on the way to bankruptcy. We have been on the way to bankruptcy longer than 3 years. We have been on the way to bankruptcy ever since we began to allow the financial mastery of this country gradually to get into the hands of a little clique that has held it right up until they would send us to the grave." -- Congressional Record, Congressman Long, March 11, 1933
What did Roosevelt do? Sealed our fate and our childrens fate, but worst of all, he declared War on the American People. Remember the War Powers Act, the Trading with the enemy Act? He declared emergency powers with his authority being the War Powers Act, the Trading with the enemy Act. The problem is he redefined who the enemy was, read the following: (remember what I said about the SS# being a license to work)
The declared National Emergency of March 9, 1933 amended the War Powers Act to include the American People as enemies:
"In Title 1, Section 1 it says: The actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders and proclamations heretofore or hereafter taken, promulgated, made, or issued by the President of the United States or the Secretary of the Treasury since March 4, 1933, pursuant to the authority conferred by subdivision (b) of section 5 of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended, are hereby approved and confirmed."
"Section 2. Subdivision (b) of section 5 of the Act of October 6, 1917, (40 Stat. L. 411), as amended, is hereby amended to read as follows: emergency declared by the President, the President may, through any agency that he may designate, or otherwise, investigate, regulate, or prohibit, under such rules and regulations as he may prescribe, by means of licenses or otherwise, any transactions in foreign exchange, transfers of credit between or payments by banking institutions as defined by the President, and export, hoarding, melting, or earmarking of gold or silver coin or bullion or currency, BY ANY PERSON WITHIN THE UNITED STATES OR ANY PLACE SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF."
Here is the legal phrase subject to the jurisdiction thereof, but at law this refers to alien enemy and also applies to Fourteenth Amendment citizens:
"As these words are used in the first section of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Federal Constitution, providing for the citizenship of all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, the purpose would appear to have been to exclude by the fewest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common Law), the two classes of cases, children born of *ALIEN ENEMIES(emphasis mine), in hostile occupation, and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign state, both of which, by the law of England and by our own law, from the time of the first settlement of the English colonies in America, had been recognized exceptions to the fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the country." - United States v Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649, 682, 42 L Ed 890, 902, 18 S Ct 456. Ballentine's Law Dictionary
Congressman Beck had this to say about the War Powers Act:
"I think of all the damnable heresies that have ever been suggested in connection with the Constitution, the doctrine of emergency is the worst. It means that when Congress declares an emergency there is no Constitution. This means its death....But the Constitution of the United States, as a restraining influence in keeping the federal government within the carefully prescribed channels of power, is moribund, if not dead. We are witnessing its death-agonies, for when this bill becomes a law, if unhappily it becomes law, there is no longer any workable Constitution to keep the Congress within the limits of its constitutional powers." - Congressman James Beck in Congressional Record 1933
The following are excerpts from the Senate Report, 93rd Congress, November 19, 1973, Special Committee On The Termination Of The National Emergency United States Senate. They were going to terminate all emergency powers, but they found out they did not have the power to do this so guess which one stayed in, the Emergency Act of 1933, the Trading with the Enemy Act October 6, 1917 as amended in March 9, 1933.
"Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency....Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens."
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 (now 63) years, freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency....from, at least, the Civil War in important ways shaped the present phenomenon of a permanent state of national emergency." - Senate Report, 93rd Congress, November 19, 1973
You may be asking yourself is this the law, and if so where is it, read the following: In Title 12 U.S.C, in section 95b you'll find the following codification of the Emergency War Powers:
"The actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders and proclamations heretofore or hereafter taken, promulgated, made, or issued by the President of the United States or the Secretary of the Treasury since March 4, 1933, pursuant to the authority conferred by subsection (b) of section 5 of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended (12 U.S.C., 95a), are hereby approved and confirmed." - (March 9, 1933, c. 1, Title 1, 1, 48 Stat. 1)
So you can further understand the word Alien Enemy and what it means to be declared an enemy of this government, read the following definitions: The phrase Alien Enemy is defined in Bouvier's Law Dictionary as:
One who owes allegiance to the adverse belligerent. - 1 Kent 73.
He who owes a temporary but not a permanent allegiance is an alien enemy in respect to acts done during such temporary allegiance only; and when his allegiance terminates, his hostile character terminates also; -1 B. & P.163.
Alien enemies are said to have no rights, no privileges, unless by the king's special favor, during time of war; - 1 Bla. Com. 372; Bynkershoek 195; 8 Term 166. [Remember we've been under a declared state of war since October 6, 1917, as amended March 9, 1933 to include every United States citizen.]
"The phrase Alien Enemy is defined in Words and Phrases as: Residence of person in territory of nation at war with United States was sufficient to characterize him as "alien enemy" within Trading with the Enemy Act, even if he had acquired and retained American citizenship." - Matarrese v. Matarrese, 59 A.2d 262, 265, 142 N.J. Eq. 226.
"Residence or doing business in a hostile territory is the test of an "alien enemy: within meaning of Trading with the Enemy Act and Executive Orders thereunder." - Executive Order March 11, 1942, No. 9095, as amended, 50 U.S.C.A. Appendix 6; Trading with the Enemy Act 5 (b). In re Oneida Nat. Bank & Trust Co. of Utica, 53 N.Y.S. 2d. 416, 420, 421, 183 Misc. 374.
"By the modern phrase, a man who resides under the allegiance and protection of a hostile state for commercial purposes is to be considered to all civil purposes as much an `alien enemy' as if he were born there." - Hutchinson v. Brock, 11 Mass. 119, 122.
Am I done with the proof? Not quite, believe it or not, it gets worse. I have established that war has been declared against the American people and their children. The American people that voted for the 1933 government were responsible for Congress' actions, because Congress was there in their proxy. What is one of the actions taken against an enemy during time of War. In the Constitution the Congress was granted the power during the time of war to grant Letters of Marque. What is a letter of Marque? Well, read the following:
A commission granted by the government to a private individual, to take the property of a foreign state, as a reparation for an injury committed by such state, its citizens or subjects. The prizes so captured are divided between the owners of the privateer, the captain, and the crew. - Bouvier's Law Dictionary 1914.
Think about the mission of the IRS, they are a private organization, or their backup, the ATF. These groups have been granted letters of Marque, read the following:
"The trading with the enemy Act, originally and as amended, in strictly a war measure, and finds its sanction in the provision empowering Congress "to declare war, grant letters of Marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water." -- Stoehr v. Wallace 255 U.S.
Under the Constitution the Power of the Government had its checks and balances, power was divided between the three branches of government. To do anything else means you no longer have a Constitutional government. I'm not even talking about the obvious which we have already covered, read the following:
"The Secretary of the Treasury and/or the Attorney General may require, by means of regulations, rulings, instructions, or otherwise, any person to keep a full record of, and to furnish under oath, in the form of reports or otherwise, from time to time and at any time or times, complete information relative to, any transaction referred to in section 5 (b) of the Act of October 6, 1917." -- Title 12 Banks and Banking page 570.
How about Clinton's new Executive Order of June 6, 1994 where the Alphabet agencies are granted their own power to obtain money and the military if need be to protect themselves. These are un-elected officials, sounds un-Constitutional to me, but read on.
"The delegations of authority in this Order shall not affect the authority of any agency or official pursuant to any other delegation of presidential authority, presently in effect or hereafter made, under section 5 (b) of the act of October 6, 1917, as amended (12 U.S.C. 95a)"
How can the President delegate to un-elected officials power that he was elected to have, and declare that it cannot be taken away, by the voters or the courts or Congress. I tell you how, under martial law, under the War Powers Act. The American public is asleep and is unaware nor do they care about what is going on, because it may interfere with their making money. I guess Thomas Jefferson was right again:
"...And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, and give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have not time to think, no means of calling the mismanager's to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow sufferers..." -- (Thomas Jefferson) THE MAKING OF AMERICA, p. 395

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Submitted January 28
"Lloyd Bentsen, of Texas, to be U.S. Governor of the International Monetary Fund for a term of 5 years; U.S. Governor of the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development for a term of 5 years; U.S. Governor of the Inter-American Development Bank for a term of 5 years; U.S. Governor of the African Development Bank for a term of 5 years; U.S. Governor of the Asian Development Bank; U.S. Governor of African Development Fund; and U.S. Governor of the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development." -- Presidential Documents, February 1, 1993.

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At the same time, Bentsen was the Secretary of Treasury. Gee, I don't know, this sounds like a conflict of entrust and interest to me, how about you? Also, Congress is the only one under the Constitution able to appropriate money.
How about a few months ago when Secretary of Treasury Ruban sent tons of money to Mexico, without Congress' approval. Also, Secretary of Treasury Ruban was president of the bank that made the loans to Mexico, he was then made Secretary of Treasury and paid Mexico's debt to his bank with taxpayers money. Again, sounds like a conflict of entrust to me.
"Without limitation as to any other powers or authority of the Secretary of the Treasury or the Attorney General under any other provision of this Order, the Secretary of the Treasury is authorized and empowered to prescribe from time to time regulations, rulings, and instructions to carry out the purposes of this Order and to provide therein or otherwise the conditions under which licenses may be granted by or through such officers or agencies as the Secretary of the Treasury may designate, and the decision of the Secretary with respect to the granting, denial or other disposition of an application or license shall be final." -- Section 7, Title 12 U.S.C. Banks and Banking
Do the issues I have brought up sound like this is a Constitutional government to you? I have not covered the main nexus, the money. I didn't make this information up, it is the government's own documents and legal definitions taken from their dictionaries. I wish the hard working Americans in the government that are loyal to an American Republic could read this, the more that know the truth the better.

Posted by: RHOLMES on August 31, 2006 09:37 AM
16. RHOLMES: interesting. There are some legal flaws in the arguments, (minor omissions of phrasing that make important legal blurrings), but interesting. So, given that we have no legal means or recourse, what do we do? Would you advocate open armed revolt against the King, the only tool at the disposal of the North Amercian colinists?

Posted by: tg on August 31, 2006 04:47 PM
17. Neal Starkman is educated beyond his intelligence.

Just Google his name...I believe the Neal Starkman, Ph.d. that comes up is one and the same...Ph.d in social psychology.

Posted by: JAY on September 11, 2006 07:43 PM
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