August 07, 2006
Local Muslim leader reluctantly expresses sympathy over terrorist attack at Jewish Federation
Regarding the recent terrorist attack at the Seattle Jewish Federation by a Muslim man motivated by anger with Israel, a leader of a local Muslim organization sent this letter to the Jewish Transcript (published August 4, 2006). I'm underwhelmed.
It is with deep sorrow that we note the one dead and five injured people in the mindless act of cruelty by a hate-filled man. Our hearts go out in sympathy to the injured and to the families of victims.
We struggled for some time about whether a statement should be sent out or not, because we would like this to be recognized for the grievous crime that it is, rather than an event that calls for an explanation or apology by Muslims.
In the end, it was decided that we need to extend our sympathies and good will to those who were victimized by this crime because it would prevent misunderstandings between the faiths.
Muslims, Jews and Christians have been working long and hard in this area, to build relationships of respect and trust that have so far endured many tests.
We look forward to the future in which this test, too, shall be endured and people of the three Abrahamic faiths will have come closer in spite of this tragedy.
We would like to close with this hadith from the Prophet Mohammed:
"Those in whose hearts is no mercy for others will not attain the mercy of Allah." (Bukhari and Muslim)
American Muslims of Puget Sound, Lynnwood
This is consistent with Siddiqui's ongoing refusal to recognize that Muslims, acting as Muslims, sometimes commit acts of aggression in the name of Islam. He seems to feel that Muslims are only ever victims, persecuted by the government
and the targets of a paranoid US
. But Siddiqui's letter does clear up any misunderstandings about where he's really coming from, as did his statement in Louis Farrakhan's Final Call website
The pro-Israeli spin doctors are in full battle-cry, sending e-mails, articles and making phone calls wherever necessary. The radio and television hosts make a great pretense of 'journalistic inquiry' as they skew their shows against the Arabs and in favor of the poor Israelis," writes Jeff Siddiqui, of American Muslims of Puget Sound, in Seattle, Wash
, not to mention his statement to the P-I
the day after the Seattle terrorist attack:
Siddiqui said his organization and several other groups had announced a silent march today to demand a cease-fire in Lebanon and Palestine and to protest Israeli bombing.
That march, which starts at 11 a.m. at the Kirkland Marina and ends at Houghton Beach Park, should have no relation to the Seattle shootings, Siddiqui said.
Siddiqui seems to have difficulty acknowledging that the Muslim world suffers from violent anti-Semitic and anti-western pathologies , whether it manifests itself as airplanes flying into office buildings in New York, as a spontaneous shooting in Seattle or in the form of 3,000 rockets
fired by Hizbullah
on innocent Israeli civilians.
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at August 07, 2006
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1. Until Islam can categorically and instantaneously condemn such acts we have a problem with all of Islam.
There is one problem with this article as well this IGNORANT comment above. The shooter, Naveed Afzal Haq was BAPTIZED CHRISTIAN!!!
I wonder when CHRISTIANITY WILL CONDEMN THE KKK AND THE FOUNDER OF AMERICA who were/are racist skum!?
The one problem with the IGNORANT comment @2 is that he said "I am a MUSLIM" before he opened fire!!!
I wonder when liberals such a JB will condemn such ILSAMOFACIST murderers instead of trying to make excuses for them???
"I am a Muslim American, angry at Israel,' before opening fire on everyone,"
Naveed Afzal Haq
Try again idiot.
Remember Sen. Robert "sheets Byrd (Democrat) was a Grand Keagal. The one of those in the Senate.
The push for emancipation, the underground railroad, and the civil rights movement were all based in mainstream christian churches. LBJ got more support for the civil rights legislation for republicans than democrats.
Christians widely condemn violence committed in the name of christianity. I see no such trend and practice in Islam.
Siddiqui is typical, he cannot condemn the Islamofacist targeting and killing of women and children.
Since I know you'll bring Qana or some such thing, when the terrorist hide behind and among children they are the ones who violate the rules of warfare by violating placing them in danger. Not the ones returning fire.
JB: Perhaps its telling that you only had to go back in history A CENTURY AND A HALF to come up with your example?
Its even more telling that 95% of the population of the US during the 19th century were nominally "Christians". Your point would have only been passingly interesting if the founder of the KKK was not christian. As it is, its completely meaningless.
I hadn't heard that the shooter was a baptized Christian... but in context, that also has very little meaning... his actions were done in the name of Islam... not Christianity. Lots of people get Baptized... in many branches of Christianity, any beliver can baptize anyone - in some, you don't even need water. Heck, there's even at least one branch that will baptize dead people... doesn't sound like very significant to me.
Don't you have anything meaningful to post?
JB - It isn't very tolerant going around condemning people and calling them idiots. Why is it that everyone needs to be oh-so tolerant of lefties (so they aren't accused of being intolerant)? It really seems as if lefties have no tolerance for intolerant people.
Kind of a catch 22. Amusing watching the left getting their knickers in a twist!
7. "struggled" whether to send a consoling statement?! a civilized society or civilized religion would not hesitate to do a simple humanitarian act as such--no matter who acted; sorry--half a statement or a delayed statement is not a sincere statement; better to have been silent; besides, as stated before, not many Bhuddists or Mennonites going around these days beheading people or strapping on bombs for sidewalk cafes;
Siddiqui serves as the archetypal American moslem - so deep in denial and self-delusion that it is impossible for him to be contrite - even when it doesn't cost anything.
Pity poor Siddiqui - he can't come to terms with the fact that he is representative of the the reason that moslems are so warily regarded in these troubled times.
(Yea, I can pity him, but you can bet that I won't turn my back on him ;'}
9. Soup--expanding on your 2nd line: dog bites you? snake startles you? mugger pops you? all these make you suspicious & cautious of meeting the same offenders again; it's pure survival; Darwin; "total tolerance and love" would have you expose your juglar each time; cry me a river for all the "hurt feelings" during WW2 for Germans, Japanese & Italians in America; why is that hard to fathom? it was reality; tough; until the current offending culture or religion turns in their offenders, i will also look askew at them for my own survival; it's not fair, that's not bigotry--that's simply life;
10. I wonder when CHRISTIANITY WILL CONDEMN THE KKK AND THE FOUNDER OF AMERICA who were/are racist skum!?
JDB - Klan lover.
KDB, we domdemn, in the strongest terms, the Grand Kleagle racist extrordinaire, the 'Grand Man of the Senate" himself, DEMOCRAT Robert "KKK" BYRD!!!
Still waiting for Democrats to criticize the KKK. Oh wait, they ARE the KKK. Silly me.
11. I have heard this Siddiqui interviewed on radio, and it's always the same. As far as I can tell, he is either really afraid of reprisals for condemning the islamic terrorists, or else he is an apologist for them and agrees with them. I wonder if he will ever have the guts to tell us which it is?
12. I have heard this Siddiqui interviewed on radio, and it's always the same. As far as I can tell, he is either really afraid of reprisals for condemning the islamic terrorists, or else he is an apologist for them and agrees with them. I wonder if he will ever have the guts to tell us which it is?
13. sorry for the double post. Must have been a twitch.
14. Preach it, Stefan!
"...because we would like this to be recognized for the grievous crime that it is, rather than an event that calls for an explanation or apology by Muslims."
He's completely missing the point. We are all looking to the leaders of the local Muslim community to condem any act of hatred against anyone, Jewish or otherwise. His forced statement misses the target that is being held up by everyone else who has condemed this horrable act. Of course, if he doesn't condem it then perhaps an explanation is in order.
Why do conservatives feel the need to dwell on this guy?
1. He obviously has mental issues
2. It's an isolated incident
3. He's in Jail. Probably for the rest of his life.
Why are you guys so threatened? The answer is: you're not.
It's all a political game, and it's pathetic.
Why did Gerald at post 16 miss the bus?
He has a liberal route transfer. It goes everywhere but Logicville.
He has nothing to protect.
He was the victim on the playground and is still bitter.He likes being a victim.
Threatened? only by people like you who do not believe in nor care about self-preservation.
Heeeyy---did I just nibble on the troll hook? Ohhh--should have known better!
18. In 16 - Now there's on from the mentally and emotionally deranged. Thought I was reading a spoof at first.
19. In 16 - Now there's one from the mentally and emotionally deranged. Thought I was reading a spoof at first.
JB, when will you condemn the Democrats' tradition of supporting slavery and the ghettoization and fiscal enslavement of minorities?
Before you go ranting about the dog in our yard, clean up the sh*t in your own, you irrelevant acid-brained dorkweed.
(/taking you seriously)
Found a blog of someone whose 7-21-2006 entry (the last one) said that she just started up a job at the Jewish Federation in Seattle. I don't know if she was a victim or not but I found this one statement about the job sadly ironic.
She said it was the most boring job in the world.
16 - Gerald - your point of view is way to narrow. All Americans need to concerned with sleeper Muslim-Facists cells attacking America! The attacker, in this case admited he was an irate Muslim.
Until the Democrats relize that we are at war with the extremist Muslim religion, we will always be rowing upstream in trying to maintain the American lifestyle!
Katomar: You, my friend, have struck the nail squarely on the head: people like Sikdiqui are either in league with the Islamo-terrorists, or simply looking out for their own necks--literally--when they issue these carefully worded "condemnations." I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and suggest the latter; Hizbollah/Al Qaeda/Hamas knows where to find him. Jeff's just a guy with a family forced by circumstance to choose between life and death.
Jimmie sez it all--when you cut through all the BS, life is pretty much about survival.
24. I can remember my father, a good Republican, telling us as kids about his military training in the South during WWII and how appalled he was that such bigotry as he saw there could exist in our country. When he wanted to condemn Democrats he would remind us that they were the party of the solid South. I wonder what he'ld say today if he knew that his beloved GOP's most loyal legions came from that same South.
I believe that in this case it was not the Muslim religion that caused him to do what he did.
It was his liberal ideology. He felt "victimized" by the Jewish people for them bombing the Muslims in Lebanon even though he didn't know anyone there.
In this case, I am a Muslim, did not mean I practice the Islamic religion but instead meant I identify myself with the Muslim people.
The liberals preach group identification. If you can make yourself part of a "victimized" (or what the liberals perceived as being victimized) group then you can be all self-rightous and stuff.
He just took it to the next level and attacked his "oppressors" (in the liberal mindset).
No, this wasn't about Islam. It was about Liberalism.
Katomar, my friend, you have struck the proverbial nail squarely on the head: people like Siddiqui are either in league with the Islamofacists, or simply looking out for their own necks--literally--when they issue carefully worded condemnations or apologies. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and suggest the latter. Hezbollah/Al Qaeda/Hamas knows where to find him; Jeff's just a guy with a family forced by circumstance to choose between life and death.
Jimmie sez it all--when you get right down to it, life is pretty much about survival. With apologies to George Patton, "Life isn't about dying for your principles. It's about letting the other poor dumb bastard die for his."
27. 2. It's an isolated incident
No. It is not. Do some research. Starting with the Jeff Jacoby post.
Just this year, for example, Mohammed Taheri-azar, a philosophy major at the University of North Carolina, deliberately rammed a car into a crowd of students, saying he wanted to "avenge the death of Muslims around the world." Michael Julius Ford opened fire in a Denver warehouse, killing one person and injuring five. "I don't know what happened to him yesterday," his sister Khali told the press. "He told me that Allah was going to make a choice and it was going to be good and told me people at his job was making fun of his religion."
Other cases in recent years include Hasan Akbar, a sergeant in the 101st Airborne Division, who attacked his fellow soldiers at an American command center in Kuwait with grenades and rifle fire, killing one and wounding 15; Hesham Mohamed Ali Hadayet, who killed two people when he shot up the El Al ticket counter at the Los Angeles airport in 2002; and Ali Hasan Abu Kamal, who was carrying a note denouncing "Zionists" and others who "must be annihilated & exterminated" when he opened fire on the observation deck of the Empire State building.
Jacoby doesn't mention another 'lone gunman' who blew himself up outside an Oklahoma football game last year.
Do some reading, Gerald. It ain't the Amish doing all this crap. It isn't isolated. And it certainly isn't political in the sense you think it's political.
Jimg @ 27
I just remember 9/11.... That's enough proof for me.
29. Has it become obvious enough that Muslims are not in the fear of God? They believe they are acting on God's behalf, no matter how illogical or intolerant they believe God to be.
JB, when will the left stop going around looking for any reason to excuse Islamofacism and try to make everyone think (erroneously) that chrisitianity is the real problem? Why so easy on Islamofacism?
Clearly this killer's Islamic faith meant more to him than anything else he dabbled in. Why do you try to take attention away from that? He WANTED people to identify him as muslim; yet you try to pretend that it was his dabbling in christianity that made him kill people. We all would truly like to know why the left goes out of its way to excuse islamofacism. Could you enlighten us, please? Don't go off on some leftist tangential rage--just tell us why you see christianity as worse than islam Inquring minds really would like to know.
31. Gerald is a pre-puberty LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWN completely incapable of coming to grips with the evil of Islamofacism. Gerald lives in his little dreamworld where America is evil and the "oppressed" have a free pass to do whatever to rise above the "evil empire". Shame on you L'il Gerald! Pre-pubescence is a tough stage for you obviously. Cheer up though Gerald. You will eventually grow up and your alleged mind will hopefully engage.
You guys are obsessing over a murderer a wee too much.
That's what I said.
I did not say that I support terrorists, hate america, and think that radical islamic folks are our best friends.
You guys are always great for a chuckle. So full of hate you can't wait for someone to say something you disagree with.
Don't worry. I'll always be here to give you your fix of hate. ;).
"I wonder when CHRISTIANITY WILL CONDEMN THE KKK AND THE FOUNDER OF AMERICA who are/were racist skum!?"
Wrong NOUN, Hemingway. That would be CHRISTIANS not CHRISTIANITY. I can't wait to grow up and begin thinking for myself like a good little, enlightened, intellectually superior liberal and butcher the english language [not to mention everything else]. As a Christian (and not a very good one at that), I CONDEMN ALL RACISM and/or DISCRIMINATION in ANY FORM. Got it??
Moreover, I don't see how ANY member of the KKK could be a Christian saved by GRACE through FAITH in the Lord Jesus Christ considering the FACT that He was JEWISH. I mean, this is a no-brainer. I'm reminded of the saying: "Going to church on Sunday makes one a Christian as much as going into the garage makes one a car." Or, as C.S. Lewis put it in 'Mere Christianity': "A cold, self-righteous prig who regularly attends church on Sunday may be further from heaven than a prostitute. But, of course, it is better to be neither."
So, who is this singular "FOUNDER" of America, anyway? (Besides being a dead, hetro, slave-owning, white male that is...) Or, are you referring to the land rich, but cash poor Founding Father-types (PLURAL)? Go ahead. Play the Thomas Jefferson card. I dare you. I await with baited breath.
P.S. You mispelled SCUM. Apparently you were too busy hyperventilating to realize the error. OR, you're simply THAT stupid. Unbelievable.
Google: "Taqiyya" "Tu-Quoque"
That's all you need to know about the veracity of any Muslim.
35. Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble. And no one seen this coming. Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble, Rabble.
"American Muslims of Puget Sound" - as phony as Jeff aka jafar aka jaffar - No scheduled meetings, no newsletter, no phone number, no website, no membership roles, not even a p.o box. Just "Jeff."
Jihad is waged by shooting Jewish women and by three-piece suit taqiyya.
Seattle's filthy muslim terrorist comitted his 'random' act of Jihad on the muslim holy day Friday, with a crescent moon in the sky, the third lunar day of the new month.
The last 'random' filthy muslim terrorist jihad act was taheri-azar driving his SUV into a crowd of people at UNC. That also occurred on the muslim holy day Friday. There was a crescent moon in the sky too, being the third lunar day of the new month.
And the bastards at the FBI and Federal Prosecutor's office issue the standard Justice Department lie: "There's nothing to indicate that it's terrorism."
37. Why do conservatives feel the need to dwell on this guy?
Hmmm, well, let's see...could it be because the friendly progressive, tolerant folks just kind of wave their magic wands and ignore it until it goes away?
Let's look at Gerald's masterful dismissal of Haq'a actions:
1. He obviously has mental issues
2. It's an isolated incident
3. He's in Jail. Probably for the rest of his life.
1) Obviously he has mental issues? If he has mental issues, then it is likely that anybody who does things similar to this man has mental issues. I guess that lets most of Hamas, Hizbollah, and even Al Qaeda off the hook. The insanity defense means none of those guys are guilty, since they just didn't know what they were doing.
2) This is just an isolated incident, meaning, I suppose, unrelated in ANY way to any other random, isolated acts of terror all over the world in the past few months or years.
Nope, this was a one-off, a man who had his own personal reasons for shooting some Jewish women. It's nothing to do with his personal choice to actually not be isolated but instead self-identify with the people who have done most of these types of deeds over the past 3 years. Better go look at the police transcripts, Gerald--he wasn't acting for an organization, but he was sure acting for an ideology that he accepted as the truth.
Nope, every man is an island--as long as he doesn't hurt me (just some random Jews) it's no skin off of my back who he kills.
3) Sure, he's in jail--but I suppose that there are no other people like him waiting to snap? Nobody at all like him in Canadian mosques, or Florida mosques, or...nope, he's an isolated, odd case. He's just a troubled victim, all alone in the world of radicalized Muslims who decide that killing Jews will solve a lot of problems.
Why are you guys so threatened? The answer is: you're not.
And I suppose, Gerald, that you probably feel more threatened by, say, Reichert than by people like this guy. Here's a hint--you and I are both infidel targets...
It's all a political game, and it's pathetic.
If it's so pathetic, why are you playing?
"It was an isolated incident."
Why are some people so determined NOT to see what's really there??
Michelle Malkin has a blog entry describing all the Islamofacist "isolated incidents." There are way too many of them. and yes (for all of you in Palm Beach)---there IS a pattern of this. And yes, we ought to be concerned.
39. Wow, JB is showing the leftist hatred for the founding fathers! JB, these guys left you an incredible document called the constitution, and an awesome country. But Canada is just up the way. You might be happier there.
Stefan, I don't see Siddiqui's comments as being as outrageous as you do. As far as his uncertainty over whether or not to issue a statement, he seems to be saying that perhaps Muslim leaders do not need to apologize for the actions of every individual Muslim. To expect that such statements will always be forthcoming is to implicitly suspect that Muslim sympathies must lie with the perpetrator unless otherwise noted.
As far as the march that Siddiqui's group and other groups had planned together, are you suggesting that protesting the war is not valid in light of the shooting, or that they should've changed the march to be a protest against the shooter?
As our resident "Pre-pubescent LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWN", you have shown a consistent tolerance for the terrorist Kommunity....minimizing and marginalizing actions as Psuedo aptly pointed out.
For you young man Gerald, it all comes down to a serious lack of courage in dealing with a real, violent threat to our security.
Please let us know when your testicles finally drop into your l'il nutsack, willya?
42. The only way this would have been classified as terrorism is if the guy had found some Jewish people at the Seattle Times and shot up their offices.
43. Mr Cynical, how dare you speak to Gerald that way. He's a democrat afterall, and gosh darnit, that means something. Just wish I knew what that was, as in "The Plan" that they have yet to share.
44. Gerald's plan is so "SECRET", He doesn't even know what it is!
45. This should not be a politically polarizing issue but one that all Jews can come together on. This was cold blooded murder from a very disturbed individual.
I see no evidence that he has ties to anyone in the Muslim community.