July 30, 2006
It's Bush's Fault

Maria Cantwell hasn't had the best week staying consistent on various issues. Now, on Friday she offered us another foible. In this article in the Seattle Times she notes the following while discussing the problem of Hezbollah's presence in southern Lebanon:

In 2004, the U.N. Security Council passed a resolution demanding that Hezbollah disarm and allow the Lebanese army to take back control of south Lebanon. But, Cantwell said, the White House neglected to enforce the measure. "The administration kind of dropped the ball," she said.

Oh, really?

Cantwell is implying the U.S. should have taken a more active role in disarming Hezbollah. In case she hadn't noticed, that terrorist organization hasn't shown much interested in doing so voluntarily since that resolution. So what other options is she talking about?

Currently there are three, given that Lebanon's own military lacks the strength to do so without provoking another civil war. One, U.S. troops in Lebanon, a thought that does not provoke fond memories for most people (one can imagine the attacks from Democrats if such a force was proposed). Two, a substantial international force, perhaps including the French and the Turks, made possible only by recent events and equipped with the firepower to deal with Hezbollah when it inevitably violates any possible ceasefire.

Third, we could rely solely on the UN. Great idea! That includes the UN force in southern Lebanon ironically profiled in the Seattle Times the same day as Cantwell's errant comments. This would be the same force that has been in southern Lebanon since 1978, where of course there has been no fighting since that date. This would also be the same force described thus in the article linked above: "toothless, and ultimately futile...trapped literally and figuratively between the two sides." How visionary.

As any intelligent observer can tell, current and past tensions in the Middle East are just a tad more complicated than the current Democratic mantra Cantwell has fallen into that it's Bush's fault. Noted liberal thinker Peter Beinart ripped into his fellow Democrats recently for such an unserious approach to foreign policy. Then again, Cantwell already has experience taking unserious positions this campaign cycle so I suppose no one should be surprised.

Posted by Eric Earling at July 30, 2006 08:58 AM | Email This
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1. Please, Maria, just keep on talking. You're almost as good as Howard Dean!

Posted by: katomar on July 30, 2006 09:43 AM
2. Maybe Sen. Cantwell can provide the White House a list of U.N. resolutions we should be in charge of enforcing, and which ones we should let the U.N. enforce.

Posted by: jimg on July 30, 2006 09:51 AM
3. Clearly Cantwell endorses the idea of a UN resolution as an authorization to use the US military.

Posted by: Dishman on July 30, 2006 09:59 AM
4. Earth to Cantwell. Is there anyone home in that vacant house of intellect?

Is Kofi culpable in any of this? Last I've heard he has over two thousand of those "do nothing and look the other way smurfs" over there in Labanon. You know, the guys that let in the 13,000 rockets.

Was Bush supposed to unilaterally send in the Marines?

Soldier on Maria!

Posted by: Fed Up on July 30, 2006 10:04 AM
5. You conclude that "current and past tensions in the Middle East are just a tad more complicated than the current Democratic mantra Cantwell has fallen into that it's Bush's fault". It's Bush's oversimplified and ideology driven approach to the middle east that got us into this mess in the first place. Iraq is the very epitome of a disastrous policy resulting from callous ignorance of the Middle East being more than just a tad more complicated than the neocons' black and white worldview.

Step back and replay the optimistic words of PNAC hawks at the onset on Iraq. Cheney's, Rumsfeld's, Wolfowitz's, and Kristol's words before the scope of the Iraq mistake was made plain to all speak volumes about their detachment from reality and refusal to grasp the nuances of the region. Remember Kristol's statement "There's been a certain amount of pop sociology in America, that the Shia can't get along with the Sunni and the Shia in Iraq want to establish some kind of Islamic fundamentalist regime. There's been almost no evidence of that at all, Iraq's always been very secular."

Pop sociology?! Wrongo!

None of their talking points were true, resulting in a bold but tragically oversimplistic Middle East policy that strengthened and emboldened Iran & Syria while at the same time bound us down in Iraq with no credibility or moral high ground. This latest violence in Lebanon is the result. The Administration's seeming desire to allow it to continue and possibly escalate scares me. It should scare anybody with even a remedial grasp of world history.

Defending the Bush foreign policy by accusing the Democrats of oversimplification of a complex middle east is ludicrous in the face of the Administration's own words, policy and predictions. Is falling on this defense of accusing democrats of the same myopia that has wrecked our mideast policy one of the "last throes" of the failed and discredited neocon movement? I pray it is!

Posted by: bone on July 30, 2006 10:06 AM
6. Peter Beinart is about as liberal as Alphabet Soup and True Soldier. Nice try, Eric, but no cigar.

Posted by: ivan on July 30, 2006 10:12 AM
7. Ivan, what does that have to do with the argument? Did you come here to add something meaningful to the dialogue, or just to throw rocks? Don't you have anything substantial to contribute to this? Based on your obtuse, snarky little jibe, it appears that you came unprepared for intelligent discourse- again.

Posted by: ERNurse on July 30, 2006 10:29 AM
8. You wouldn't know intelligent discourse if it kicked you in the nuts.

Posted by: ivan on July 30, 2006 10:39 AM
9. I've been pretty amazed at the stupidity of Cantwell's campaign ads

Enron scewed us on her watch.
She's blocking drilling ANWR.
She failed to get us road dollars and is part of the contributing factor to why we have a higher gas tax.

The only thing she can really say she's accomplished while in office is hating the Bush administration, but in Seattle, I guess that goes a long way for credibility. Just ask Darcy.

Posted by: Andy on July 30, 2006 10:56 AM
10. You wouldn't know intelligent discourse if it kicked you in the nuts.

Ivan calls this intelligent discourse.

If I were McGavick I would send Maria Cantwell a thank you card. When your opponent campaigns for you like this, it's a really nice gift.

Posted by: Jeff B. on July 30, 2006 11:24 AM
11. I'm not sure why you think Cantwell is being inconsistent here. She's always seen a role for U.S. intervention and enforcement of U.N. resolutions -- that's one reason why she has trouble with the left wing of the Democratic party. Her complaint is with the lack of seriousness in Bush's approach to these problems.

In Lebanon, Bush was quick to cheer the Lebanese election and the withdrawl of Syrian forces, but he didn't think much about the consequences of these actions or provide much followup. These consequences included a democratic sanctioning of Hezbollah, who picked up a number of parliamentary seats and several government ministries, plus a power vacuum when Syria withdrew. These made it even more difficult to manage the situation at the southern border with Israel.

You listed three simplistic options for dealing with this situation. Of course, there are others, but they would have required a more dedicated and nuanced engagement by the Bush admin. For example, the U.S. could have worked to strengthen the fledgling Lebanese government, including training and equipping its army and sending massive aid packages to help displace the influence Hezbollah buys with its social services programs. In time, the Lebanese government, perhaps with international help brokered by the U.S., would be able to disarm Hezbollah and maintain security in the south. The result would be a stable democracy on Israel's nothern border that was not overtly unfriendly to Israel.

Instead, we have the current catastrophe. Hezbollah does not appear to be weakened, it may even be strengthened in terms of popular support. The new government that Bush bragged about last year probably won't survive -- at the very least, it will be severely weakened. Lebanese attitudes against Israel have hardened and the U.S. finds itself more isolated than ever as we appear to be the only nation unconcerned with the terrible civilian death toll resulting from the Israeli attacks. We also have the public spectacle of Condoleeza Rice's ineffectiveness as she scampers in and out of the region with nothing to show for her efforts other than her callous statements of indifference to the loss of innocent life in Lebanon.

Posted by: scottd on July 30, 2006 11:26 AM
12. There's no doubt that Bush could have handled this better as with many other current fronts in the war against Islamic Jihad. However, the question is, what would Maria do? I see no evidence that the Democrats have any plan to confront Islamic Jihad that is anything approaching the limited resolve of Republicans. Thus, it's a choice of the less vs. lesser.

Anyone who is serious about maintaining the fight, or better yet, increasing the fight with Islamic Jihad, will vote McGavick, and Cantwell makes this decision much easier when she frames the problem with yet another "It's Bush's fault."

Americans don't like whiners, complainers and blamers. We like those who take action. If the Democrats are so sure they have a better plan than Bush, let them tell us what it is.

Posted by: Jeff B. on July 30, 2006 11:48 AM
13. Since when do Democrats give real plans. They always say I will tell you when I am elected. Trust me I know whats best. Then they ignore the issues until next election. And they pull the same stunt. I guess Democrats Can not see that their party is the party of No Ideas. What Can I say. If they have a solution show it. Dont claim you have something you don't. Remember ever solution is more money. We can buy the terrorists off. Is that what happened in WWII in germany as they took one group after another to the concentration camps. Democrats think they will not come after me. Boy are they wrong. The answer is not pay off the terrorists. That only allows them to buy more weapons to later kill you. Look at the Clinton peace process. His hands on approach. How many Israels have been killed because of it? Arafat after the last meeting started the killing. If Arabs want peace they had better stop arming the terrorists. Stop teaching hate in their schools. Start taking responsibility for your own actions.
1. Arafat president of poor palestine had billions in the bank in Switzerland. I wonder how this great humanitarian got so reach. Bribes? Divertion of Money? Kick Backs?
2. THe militia gets all the money and the people stay poor. THe terrorists say it is because of Israel and anyone that questions the real facts well they get killed. Terrorists use terror on both Israel and other arabs. Remember they have to hid behind woman and children so that they get killed for the press.
3. UN supports terrorists. They turn a blind eye of the illegal operations that the terrorist use that put woman and Children in harms way. WHy because they hate Israel more and dont care about civilians just so they can blame Israel for killing civilians. There is video out that UN Ambulances are moving terrorists from one location to another. Golly gee could that show that the UN is not impartial in this war.
Sure the whole situation is a nightmare. BUt it will not be fixed. Everything the Democrats claim will bring peace only bring more death. Could it be that Democrats want Israel to be destoryed? And many of these democrats are jews. Go figure.
The bottom line is ISRAEL has a right to exist. Terrorist have a right to DIE. Terrorism causes more innocent deaths than Israel ever could. Yes more civilians will die why because that is where the terrorists live and fight from behind.
Where are the terrorist leaders hiding? Not where they can be shot at that is for sure. IF a country hides terrorists then that country must accept the price for allowing it to take place. Democrats do you see the cost of appeasment. The UN would not disarm the terrorists which was required of them over 6 years ago. Now the problems in the Middle East is directly due to the UN toothless words. The innocents killed is not due to Israel but UN inaction and support for terrorism. It is cause and effect.
Democrats you may not like it but it is appeasement you support that also caused the deaths of those women and children. Your hands too have blood on them. By hiding from the facts. By putting blame and dividing this country you support terrorism. Someday it will return will your business, job or house be next on the list for a terrorist attack in the US. Think about it when you vote. Which lifestyle do you support? Appeasement or action. Remember your life or your childrens life may be affected by that very issue.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on July 30, 2006 12:23 PM
14. "You wouldn't know intelligent discourse if it kicked you in the nuts."

Thus spoke iban, who has none.

"Peter Beinart is about as liberal as Alphabet Soup and True Soldier."

Sorry that the liberal author Peter Beinart is insufficiently lunatic fringe for your taste iban (you really must stop drinking from the toilet!), but I do thank you for your acknowledgement of the status of my ideology ;'}

It must suck to be you (even on a good day). It must smart especially to know that you and yours are so completely out to lunch on such a profoundly important issue. As much as I enjoy watching morons like you squirm, this is simply too important to mess with because the decisions that are made by witless fools like can't~vote~well, Fraudoire, Nipples, and Girly-kowski impact us all.

So iban, do what you Dhimmicrats do best - tuck your tail and run away!

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 30, 2006 12:49 PM
15. The Democrats have long since fallen of the tracks of the party that elected JFK. There are few statesman or stateswomen left.

Mike McGavick is someone who appears to strive to be a statesman. Lets see if the people of the People's Republic of WA are intelligent enough to vote someone in who will work for the betterment of the Government by the people and for the people...OR reelect the incumbent who will work with the Howard Dean and the mainstream whack-job Dumocrats to divide and conquer this country all before the world stage.

Posted by: KS on July 30, 2006 01:41 PM
16. Bone #5 you need to do better than Iraq is a failure. Have you been to Iraq? Well I have and I can tellyou from first hand experience that it is only about 10 % of the country that is in turmoil. Yes their is Sunni on Shite violence going on, but it is not the majority of wither ideology doing the violence. As for Iran and Syria they are a big portion of the problem in Iraq. They are funding the Shia Insurgents with the thought of getting the US out so Iran can take over. Yes there have been some mistakes made in Iraq, but show me just 1 war where there were no mistakes made. You cant, because every war has mistakes. The difference is how you adapt and overcome to the mistakes made. Why do you say we do not have the morale high ground? Let me guess you will say the stuff at Abu Grahibb and the recent new stories that Murtha and compnay wanted to convict our soldiers of before finding out all the facts (which some of the recent incidents it is looking more and more like it was the insurgents that are making the accusations). Finally I think you miss the point. In this statement by Sen. Cantwell she blames President Bush for not upholding a UN resoulution. Why is there no blame pointed at any other nation or the UN themselves and their "peacekeepers" that have yet to uphold this resolution? Not to mention look at all the flak the anti-war left is giving this Administration for going into Iraq to enforce multiple UN resolutions that Saddam Hussein has violated over the last decade. I know you think Bush lied, because there was no weapons of mass destruction. Well they have found some in case you didn't notice and the terrorists over there did try to use 1 while I was there. They tried to use an artillery shell loaded with Sarin gas, but luckily they did not know how to arm it properly so it did not release. Of course that got only a small blurb in the media just like the documents that have been declassified showing that some WMD's have been found.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on July 30, 2006 02:06 PM
17. Cantwell is correct.

The US has the weakest psotion in terms of international credibility that we have had since before the Civil War. Bush is presiding over the dismemebrment of the great american alliance built by his predessors.

In his world, we is alone.

Posted by: Steve on July 30, 2006 02:13 PM
18. What in the world is Cantwell talking about? What, exactly, was the U.S. supposed to do to "enforce the measure"? Could somebody please ask her what she means? Does she even know what she means? Probably not. This is just reflexive "It's Bush's fault" stuff from somebody who doesn't have a clue. Gosh, she's an embarrassment.

Posted by: stu on July 30, 2006 02:47 PM
19. Poor Steve: The members of great American alliance of WWII today are mostly socialist leaning, economically and demographically decling countries, other than Great Britain, which meanders back and forth on the edge of socialism. Apparently worrying about what a pack of socialists/pacifists/appeasers think of us is important? So, who gives a rip about an alliance with a pack of losers, and the opinion of a pack of losers? Well, of course, fools like John Kerry do. Our attention should be on New Europe-those freed from the Soviet block-who mostly are prospering and understand the devestation of socialism on economies, on demographics, on individuals' hope for the future. Collapsing birth rates in Old Europe and Russia, due to no confidence in a socialistic future, is so dramatically lowering birth rates in Europe and in Russia that their social safety nets will inevitably collapse at some point, since so few will be working to support so many. Actually, Bush and the boys are true visionaries because they understand that the old alliances are now mostly useless, at least until Old Europe summons the will to survive demographically and economically. John Kerry seems incapable of understanding reality or history or socialism or economics, or in his case most of all, women.

Posted by: Hank on July 30, 2006 02:51 PM
20. People like Steve shine light on the Democrat mentality. The Democrats and worse their Progressive ideology is about others. Steve is more concerned with out relationship with France and Germany, than he is in the United States. When does a threat get to the point that people like Steve stop thinking of others and start thinking of himself? Is it when a WMD is deotnated in the US by Islamic Fanatics? Steve was nonplussed by 9/11. Maybe it's when one of Steve's own relatives is killed in a terror attack. Or maybe, like Nicholas Berg's Dad, Steve can never stop thinking of others, even when the terrorist come to chop off Steve's own head.

All of this focus on what the rest of the world thinks is the morality of suicide. Who cares what the rest of the world thinks. We've built a prosperous and happy country, where the is more tolerance and freedom than anywhere else on earth. We need not apologize for our success. We must defend it vigorously. And unlike Hezbollah, we won't use or own people as human shields.

Steve, you are on the losing end of this argument, because every time your knee jerk is to appease, the Islamic terrorists attack again, making our point that defense of our Western world is what is moral and imminent.

Posted by: Jeff B. on July 30, 2006 04:00 PM
21. Ivan tells us all we need to know about him when he whines about the liberal credentials of Peter Beinart, the man who wrote: "The Good Fight: Why Liberals -- and Only Liberals -- Can Win the War on Terror and Make America Great Again." Enough said.

Posted by: Eric Earling on July 30, 2006 05:10 PM
22. Scottd -

On the contrary, while it is simple to describe the three solutions I noted, all are complex and difficult to carry out, mostly because Hezbollah refuses to disarm voluntarily. That last point makes your suggested solution of "in time, the Lebanese government, perhaps with international help brokered by the U.S., would be able to disarm Hezbollah and maintain security in the south" sound nice in theory but unrealistic in practice.

Even if the Lebanese military could disarm Hezbollah, it wouldn't try for fear of the kind of civil war that raged in the 1980's. Hezbollah has to disarm voluntarily or under the threat of force, hence the pending international force which no one had the stomach for until now, and which will have more punch than UNIFIL.

Until Hezbollah disarms voluntarily, all the "nuanced" options you might support are moot. Especially since their act of war in attacking Israeli soldiers across a UN-demarcated international border, thus starting this whole mess, reminds us all of what they're apt to do under their own devices.

Posted by: Eric Earling on July 30, 2006 05:27 PM
23. I haven't heard McGavick speak out against the Seattle Jewish Shooting.

Silence in this situation speaks volumes!

Posted by: NoRinos on July 30, 2006 07:12 PM
24. Come to think of it - we haven't heard you speak out against the shootings. What, are you some kinda anti-Semite?

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 30, 2006 07:26 PM
25. Lay off Maria. She unilaterally saved us all from Enron, don't you know?

Posted by: clue less on July 30, 2006 08:04 PM
26. Eric: The chances of Hezbollah disarming voluntarily are nil. Any strategy that depends on that is about as Serious as suggesting that Social Security reform can be funded by asking folks to return Social Security checks they don't need.

No, Hezbollah will need to be driven out of Lebanon. I wouldn't mind Israel doing the job if I thought it would work -- but it won't. Hezbollah is strong and well-entrenched. The brutality of the attacks needed to dislodge them is creating more Hezbollah supporters than it is destroying. Israel has barely scratched Hezbollah so far, yet the horrifying consequences of these attacks are already forcing Israel to back off. All Hezbollah has to do to win is survive. Right now, it looks like that's not going to be too difficult for them.

The only acceptable alternative is for the Lebanese to drive out Hezbollah. Right now, the Lebanese govt lacks the strength to do so and, as you've noted, its own political situation is too precarious. Changing this situation would have taken years of careful diplomacy, support for the Lebanese government, and massive aid for the Lebanese people to displace the aid provided by Hezbollah. In the meantime, Hezbollah would need to be contained and Israel would need to be restrained in responding to inevitable border skirmishes. This would be hard work and take time, but that doesn't change the fact that there are few, if any, workable alternatives.

As difficult as this course would be, the Lebanese elections were a good start. Too bad, Bush didn't jump on the opportunity. Instead, Israel's attacks have set the clock back 20 years.

Posted by: scottd on July 30, 2006 08:21 PM
27. Sen. Cantwell is a cant.
Nothing more need be said.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on July 30, 2006 08:38 PM
28. alphabet soup I am not running for anything. McGavick is. He is running for a position of being one amount only 100 US Senators.

And the fact that I haven't heard one word about the shootings from him is VERY DISAPPOINTING!

Posted by: NORINOS on July 30, 2006 08:40 PM
29. alphabet soup I am not running for anything. McGavick is. He is running for a position of being one among only 100 US Senators.

Yeah he remains silent.

Ronald Reagan would have never remained silent.

Yet, McGavick does.

But his silence speaks quite loudly indeed don't you think?

Posted by: NORINOS on July 30, 2006 08:42 PM
30. The WAR whether it is oveseas or in Downtown Seattle is the Number ONE issue in America and therefore in this Senate race.

Yet, McGavick Remains Silent.

WHY???

Where does he stand on Israel? Heck, where does he stand on anything?

Posted by: Ari on July 30, 2006 08:45 PM
31. All I know about McGavick is that he is a big insurance lacky.

CEO of Safeco or something like that.

Posted by: Sue on July 30, 2006 08:53 PM
32. And still you don't speak decisively, one way or the other. What are you hiding?

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 30, 2006 09:58 PM
33. Isn't the Real question what is McGavick hidding.

I don't really care about NORINOS position. He isn't the one running.

Posted by: Ari on July 30, 2006 10:13 PM
34. Of course it is the US's fault. We should have pushed for a UN resolution condemning Hezbollah for not following the other resolution. That would show them!

Posted by: Michael on July 31, 2006 02:45 AM
35. UN Resoulutions remind me of that scene from Team America where Hans Blix tells Kim Il Jung that if he doesn't get access to North Korea's WMDs that he will have to tell the UN how angry he is and they will send Kim Il Jung a letter telling him how angry the UN is. I think that about sums up the power of a UN Resoulution.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on July 31, 2006 09:57 AM
36. Cantwell condemns Bush for not enforcing UN resolution 1559.

Cantwell condemns Bush for enforcing UN resolution 1441.

Perhaps the short version is just, Cantwell condemns Bush.

Posted by: SouthernRoots on July 31, 2006 12:18 PM
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