July 28, 2006
Now, Will Jim Vesely Apologize?

In this post, I argued that the Seattle Times should not have published a letter saying that "neocons" should be weeded out, especially under the inflamatory headline they chose: Eradicate those who have put us in the Middle East.  The editor, Jim Vesely, seemed not to understand my argument, judging from his reply.

Perhaps Mr. Vesely does not know that "eradicate" and "weed out" are terms commonly used by some of the bloodiest dictators.  Perhaps he did not know that some, especially on the left (and among the followers of Pat Buchanan), use "neocon" to mean Jew.  And it was absolutely clear that the letter writer thought that supporters of Israel should be weeded out.

Perhaps now, after the shootings at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle, Mr. Vesely will understand my point.  Perhaps he will even realize that publishing a letter that advocated weeding out a group, and appeared to advocate eradicating them, was wrong.   Perhaps.

Here's what the PI said about the likely motive of the shooter, just in case you missed it:

At least three people were shot this afternoon at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle by a man a witness said was upset about "what was going on in Israel."

My sympathies to those who have lost a loved one.  I hope that those who are injured will recover, and soon.

Posted by Jim Miller at July 28, 2006 05:34 PM | Email This
1. Jim,

It is futile waiting for assholes to apologize. And Vesely's sin was to highlight a letter ragging on "neo-cons" - the media buzzword for Jews. The Seattle intellectual/media/arts crowd will only apologize for Muslim rage. Well before midnight tonight the progressive left will be blaming the Jewish Federation murder and shootings on Bush. This is our world now, brother.

Posted by: Doug on July 28, 2006 06:18 PM
2. I don't understand your connection here, Jim. Are you saying that we're "in the middle east" because of the Jews? Or that we're "in the middle east" because of the Neo-Cons, and all Jews are Neo-Cons?

Posted by: guest on July 28, 2006 06:29 PM
3. The only question for those who are still in denial about the threat of Islamic Fanaticism is: What will it take to wake you up? A Pakastani killing Jews in your neighborhood? Another major attack in the US? A death of your loved one due to terror? It's not about left or right. It's about survival.

We've got to defend ourselves now and hold accountable those governments that oppress their people and support terror.

Posted by: Jeff B. on July 28, 2006 06:51 PM
4. "guest" = TROLL

Posted by: mac on July 28, 2006 06:53 PM
5. The only question for those who are still in denial about the threat of Islamic Fanaticism is: What will it take to wake you up? A Pakastani killing Jews in your neighborhood? Another major attack in the US? A death of your loved one due to terror? It's not about left or right. It's about survival.

We've got to defend ourselves now and hold accountable those governments that oppress their people and support terror.

Posted by: Jeff B. on July 28, 2006 06:53 PM
6. Stupid Americans will wait until it's their kids being slaughtered... but then again, I have no faith in Americans anymore.

Posted by: Debra M on July 28, 2006 07:05 PM
7. I have for some time wondered about the way regressives were using the term.

I even asked a few folks at work who they were referring to when using the term (as in we've got to keep those #@*& neocons from stealing another election). The examples they gave were Wolfowitz and Crystal.

I asked if they were aware of the potential for someone to think they are anti-semitic since their examples were Jewish, and they pleaded the usual "How can you possibly think that? I'm a liberal!"

That aside, my prayers go out this evening to Seattle's victims of Islamofascism.

Posted by: deadwood on July 28, 2006 07:18 PM
8. The left side of the editorial page lacks consistency, coherence, and style. The newspaper has no institutional voice. Not a few critics have described some editiorials as resembling the work of high school students. I agree with the critics.

Jim does not appear to be an active editor. His standards apparently are not that high. The status quo is apparently acceptable to him. Jim seems to lack pride. If I was editor, I would be ashamed.

Jim is apparently comfortable, living on Mercer Island. Jim seems to be coasting until reitirement.

Posted by: Luigi Giovanni on July 28, 2006 07:47 PM
9. Guest

Go read Nekama's Troll Hammer.

Answer at least 3 of the questions posed to continue.

Posted by: JCM on July 28, 2006 08:58 PM
10. These stupid Leftists apparently don't realize that words have consequences. If I were one of the good people killed or injured by this terrorist, I would concern myself with the Seattle Times and its apparent enabling of a terrorist. Complicity in terrorism might make for an interesting civil case.

My sympathies and prayers go out to the families of the victims of another terrorist attack in the US. It's time to rise up and solve this Islamist problem here in the US.

Posted by: jesusland joe on July 28, 2006 09:37 PM
11. I linked to your article from Why the Muslim shot the Jews in Seattle

Posted by: bernie on July 29, 2006 12:49 AM
12. Liberals find us and our current President more evil than Islam? We live in very sad times.

I hope they enjoy their Dhimmitude.

Posted by: Mica on July 29, 2006 04:56 AM
13. Vesley is so far over his head as editor it's laughable. Luckily, fewer and fewer read his dying newspaper or his pitiful columns like last week's "Tokeland" piece.

Posted by: Organization Man on July 29, 2006 06:16 AM
14. Apparently the shooter read the letter in the paper, the light bulb went on, and he decided to take action.

Posted by: Jack on July 29, 2006 06:55 AM
15. We have a futile 'war on terror' when any attacks on Americans at home are dismissed as a 'lone gunman', and no effort is made to connect dots. Not only that but the wrong side gets protection; i.e., if the murderers are Muslim, the FBI protects Mosques rather than unveiling the Muslim's 'hate crimes.'

Posted by: mariro10 on July 29, 2006 09:30 AM
16. Perhaps, it is time for the victoms of the MSM to actually initiate legal action against such inflamatory items as the letter "Eradicate those who have put us in the Middle East." It is a tool they have long used to shut up their political rivals.

Just a thought.


Posted by: Denise on July 29, 2006 11:16 AM
17. Recently, I saw a comment in a blog which ended "Support Israel's Wars Donate your Children", certainly a powerful and perhaps extreme view but in perspective perhaps not far from the case. Support of Israel's invasion of Lebanon and Israel's involvement in decisions leading to our own Iraq intervention,could easily become the basis for violence among Americans themselves in our own country.
Americans who carry the wars, hate and suffering of their ancestors to our home in America have rejected the common loyalty and responsibility almost all Americans hold for each other and their nation, independent of what our prior ethnic, racial or religious identity may be.
If Americans can not honor this basic act of loyalty, our everyday life will become one of warlike attack and counterattack very much like other nations which are merely convenient settings to wage old grievances and wars.

Posted by: peacemaker on July 29, 2006 12:15 PM
18. It's silly to assume a liberal or member of the MSM would ever apologize. Don't you realize they are never wrong about anything?

Just ask them. They'll tell you.

Posted by: johnny on July 29, 2006 02:48 PM
19. Here's a little test:

Stage a protest outside of the P-I with a sign calling for the "eradication" of clueless newspaper editors, and see how long it takes Vesely to call the cops claiming to be threatened.

My money's on 10 minutes or less.

As to how long it'll take to pen an editorial about those big, meanie neocon thugs....

-- Erik

Posted by: Erik on July 29, 2006 09:08 PM
20. I thought the "New York Times" was the "media Buzzword for Jews".

Posted by: R. Anderson on July 30, 2006 07:17 PM
21. I always thought that "The New York Times" was the
buzzword for Jew".

Posted by: Bob Anderson on July 30, 2006 07:25 PM
22. Last week my neighbors, who are American citizens,
sent their son to Israel to serve two years in the Israeli army. Understandably, the boy's mother is very worried about his safety but supports his military service to a foreign country. In her view, Israel required all Jewish people to support Israel by military service. Although military service to a foreign country could result in the loss of the boy's American citizenship the mother contends that Jewish Americans are exempt from this law.
I could not help thinking of others, both Jews and non Jews who claim to be exempt from American laws. Both Pollard and Franklyn, high ranking officials in the Executive branch have been convicted of espionage for passing classified documents directly to Israel or to AIPAC, an organization which claims not to be an agent of a foreign government and refuses to register appropriately. The two members of AIPAC receiving the classified information, Rosen and Weissman, are supposedly waiting trial which has been delayed for two years.
All of these individuals have argued that they have done nothing wrong and, in fact, are helping America fight common enemies. Perhaps, after fifty years of self serving propaganda, many Jewish people believe that whatever they do on Israel's behalf, is not only beyond question as a loyal American but is a patriotic duty. Aside from very high profile cases the US government has not attempted to challenge this assumption.

Posted by: peacemaker on August 3, 2006 05:19 PM
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