June 20, 2006
A man, a plan, a canal, Smisnor!

King County Executive Ron Sims issued a self-congratulatory news release yesterday upon the Council's approval of compulsory mail-voting

As always, our goal is to conduct fair, accurate and transparent elections.
But enough easy laughs at Sims' expense. The main target of this entry is this line from the press release:
We have a strong plan to transition to a vote-by-mail system
I just sent a public records request to Sims office asking for all documents that comprise this plan. This should make for a good read.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at June 20, 2006 09:25 AM | Email This
Comments
1. It's a simple three step plan:

1) Everybody in King County sends in their vote by mail.
2) Votes are "processed" in secret by the Sims cabal.
3) Democrats are declared the winners in every race.

It's so simple, even Ron can handle this, so it's no wonder he's congratulating himself in advance.

Posted by: Jeff B. on June 20, 2006 09:49 AM
2. KC Elections: Vote early and often!

Posted by: Jack Burton on June 20, 2006 09:54 AM
3. Jack, you forgot, one token Republican victory goes to Washington State Sec. to validate fraudulent elections.

Posted by: nospam on June 20, 2006 10:19 AM
4. If by transparent elections he means eliminating the security of the polling place, he did get one right.

Posted by: RBW on June 20, 2006 10:20 AM
5. On a more serious note, is there any plan to dump Julia Patterson? She seems very vulnerable for obvious reasons and this legislation would never have passed if a more sane person were in her place.

Posted by: nospam on June 20, 2006 10:20 AM
6. How about Gossett? How did he get elected? There has to be a Dem that is better than him out there. I say Dem because no R will be able to win.

Posted by: Dengle on June 20, 2006 10:28 AM
7. Yea. Patterson definitely needs to go. She's the main creator of the toxic environment she nags about so much.

A vote along party lines to change the elections system is a total failure.

Posted by: Jacob on June 20, 2006 10:28 AM
8. Dean Logan; will he get special midget post office address to mail in his vote(s).

Posted by: righton on June 20, 2006 11:12 AM
9. Dean Logan is the Poster Boy for the New Millenium Peter Principle.

Unless the public speaks up Ron Sims will appoint an other unskilled persons for the 3rd time (2000 Senate Race lost by 2000 votes and 2002 Monorail vote would have been subject to automatic recount if it was a candidate) and Dean Logan's infamous 2004 debacle

Larry Gosset just got relected Nov-2005 by ~85% so he's around for another 3 years

Julia Patterson is just an angry old white woman who's full of piss and vinegar - Seattle's version of Robin Williams on CSpan, another angry old bitter white man

Posted by: Guss on June 20, 2006 11:14 AM
10. How about having a "strong plan" to fill vacancies in the elections department with qualified individuals?

Ron Sims is the main reason I will never buy property in King County. The King County Council is the second reason.

Posted by: Gary on June 20, 2006 11:22 AM
11. Sims said:

"I commend the County Council for its vote today and its agreement that it is time for King County to begin the process of joining the other 34 counties that have adopted a vote by mail system."

If this is true, what is the big deal that KC is switching to vote by mail?

Posted by: Erik on June 20, 2006 12:12 PM
12. "I just sent a public records request to Sims office asking for all documents that comprise this plan. This should make for a good read."

Stefan, more likely a "no read". My guess is that you wont receive a reply until after the next forced all mail election...

Posted by: Erik on June 20, 2006 12:15 PM
13. Erik - what is the big deal of allowing the voter to have the choice? It has been shown over and over again, both generally and specifically with KC, that it is more expensive (the additional budget request to implement here in KC)

Why are the pro-choice left so against choice. A bit of a contradiction?

Posted by: Fred on June 20, 2006 12:17 PM
14. SO what is the exact date they are trying to get their Vote Fraud by Mail System going?

Posted by: pbj on June 20, 2006 12:24 PM
15. Why are the pro-choice left so against choice. A bit of a contradiction?

To the warped and evil minds of the leftists, there is no contradiction. It's simply a matter of defining what you may choose. When it comes to the bloodlust slaughtering of innocent unborn, then of course you have the "right" to "choose" to do that. But when it comes to having an honest, legitimate, and secure system of voting, well, shucks, you just don't have any choice in the matter, you ain't gonna get one.

Posted by: Interested Observer on June 20, 2006 12:46 PM
16. I see both sides of the argument.

However, if 34 counties in Washington have already done it and most voters in King COunty already vote by mail I don't see that it makes much of a difference for the last voters to vote by mail as well. Voters prefer it.

Posted by: Erik on June 20, 2006 12:56 PM
17. King County hosts more residents than the other 34 combined. Voters "prefer it" with all the relish of a sh!t sandwich (apparently it's just fine for you, but I'd rather not!)

Posted by: alphabet soup on June 20, 2006 01:13 PM
18. Fair, accurate and transparent?
These must be NEW goals, because we haven't seen that yet in this county.

Posted by: Misty on June 20, 2006 01:31 PM
19. ...You can't just SAY it, you have to DO it!

Posted by: Misty on June 20, 2006 01:32 PM
20. erik,

King county has a terrible record of running elections, the other counties do not. If all mail voting itself is less secure and more expensive, you argue we should adapt it anyway because other counties have adopted it? That's pretty poor logic.

Posted by: nospam on June 20, 2006 01:59 PM
21. Well Erik--if your arugment is that most voters prefer forced mail voting and most counties are doing it, then fine. Isn't it true that ALL other counties elect their auditor, and that most people prefer it, as well?

So why can't we have that here??

Posted by: Michele on June 20, 2006 02:02 PM
22. Pierce County also has a sizeable percentage of the statewide population. Pierce decided against all-mail-voting. The "every one else is doing it" argument does not fly. King County did not make a serious effort to study all-mail-voting with input from a wide variety of observers and analysts. Had they done so, the findings may have been different.

Neither the Council nor Ron Sims care what the public has to say. They are pressing on with their own agendas regardless of merit. Their views are consistent with the intolerant liberal orthodoxy of today. In the brave new Marxist world, subjective factors trump merit.

Posted by: Jeff B. on June 20, 2006 03:29 PM
23. Like I said ... mark your ballot "FRAUD" and send it back. About as effective as "Voting", now.

Posted by: gene from woodinville on June 20, 2006 03:32 PM
24. I just wonder what it will take for the bigger populace to just get spitting mad and force the desperation of the politicians to stay alive politically instead of stealing our vote.

Make us vote on medical and fire levies after there is not enough money in the budget. Make us vote to fix streets and won’t let us vote on how to vote.

Thanks Shark for keeping it up! Maybe when Dean Logan turns off the shredder one last time and walks off to screw the citizens of So. Cal someone in KCRE will finally come forward.

Posted by: Col. Hogan on June 20, 2006 06:07 PM
25. How about a King County initiative to force a popular vote on mail balloting?
BTW, what if I can't afford the "poll tax" aka 39 cent stamp, soon to be 42 cents?

Posted by: Banshee on June 20, 2006 06:25 PM
26. I can't wait for the elections dept when they realize that all the (Poll Voter) person who have read all the BS that simms and council have said about this, call and ask where there ballot is....

Besides the confusion this Future Change has caused, it will be interesting to see how many Poll voters will actually expect an absentee ballot for the primary/general....

Banshee...regarding the poll tax (postage stamp) pls remember that they will have a lil mobile unit in each district along with these lil places you can DROP off your ballot...... Even though you may have to DRIVE several miles to reach one, don't worry, The Gov has you covered there with the GAS TAX......

But you did give me an Idea.....How about on Election Day you call KC Elections or Ron Slimes himself, and ask him to come and get it for you.....Ohhhh better yet, call Patterson or Gossett, they don't want any DISENFRANCHISED VOTERS...... When 300,000 people call them, maybe they will get the IDEA, that it is a BAD IDEA this VBM....

Posted by: Chris on June 20, 2006 06:45 PM
27. To all the Experts that read SP:

Can this be reversed by Initiative? Can the citizens by some legal means, reverse this, or at least get the vote to the PEOPLE?

Just a question.....Thanks in Advance..:)

Posted by: Chris on June 20, 2006 06:52 PM
28. Nick Licata is circulating an Initiative to deny the Seattle City Council the power to lease City athletic facilities to private for-profit sports teams at less than their fair market value. This reverses the policy of pandering to teams at taxpayer cost in the hopes of pretending to be a 'first class City', which the County did in spades with the Mariners and Seahawks.

I know this is not an exact parallel with reversing the Sims decision for all-mail voting and be damned to you, but it trends in the right direction.

Posted by: Hank Bradley on June 20, 2006 07:32 PM
29. I love this vote by mail idea. I'm registering in Issaquah as I write this...

Posted by: Hindu on June 20, 2006 08:10 PM
30. That's cool hindu....I like honesty in elections. Where can I sign up?!!

Posted by: alphabet soup on June 20, 2006 08:33 PM
31. Sent to Sims & the council June 6, 2006 Cnt say much more about the (DCC).

King County Council

With 100% of the tax paying speakers, speaking against the all mail balloting, the Democratic controlled Council (DCC) should have voted the ordnance down.That would have kept the (DCC) in unison on prior votes like adding Human Services to the Veterans bill, changing the logo, sexual orientation for all and illegal aliens. The only problem with the all mail balloting ordnance the (DCC) forgot the load up the meeting. Two weeks from now the (DCC) has closed the audience from speaking on this issue unless the (DCC) loads up the meeting with family and friends. Then (DCC) may open the audience comments to show there is a mandated on citizen for the 100% ballot voting.Then the (DCC) will vote for the 100% ballot voting in King County.

I would like to thank Julia Patterson for introducing others and I to Sound Politics.
Its good to see I'm not alone.


George

Washington grown

Voters since 1968

Posted by: George on June 20, 2006 08:36 PM
32. Yesterday, the King County Council voted 5 to 4 to move to Forced Vote By Mail and Diebold Touchscreen Voting Machines.

The only council members who spoke against the proposal to do away with the polls and bring in Diebold's Touchscreen Voting Machines were Republicans. Republican Kathy Lambert actually raised questions regarding the Diebold's TSX system and the potential for fraud when these machines are used. Living in King County feels more and more like Cook County, Illinois every day.

The last few weeks have been truly eye opening. On the national scale, I was a Dennis Kucinich Delegate in 2004, because he helped confront Diebold, by posting the infamous Diebold memos on his Congressional Website. But in Washington State, I have never found much help in the Democratic party concerning voting reform. Rank and file Democrats all over are pulling out there hair over this issue, but the Washington State Democratic leadership does not give a rats ass about opening the process, and addressing the concerns we as voting activists raise, loudly, daily, and perpetually.

With a very partisan vote, and with much disrespect shown to the multi-party coalition of activists working to save “Poll Place Voting” in King County, the County's Democrats showed that in the face of overwhelming public testimony, and what the Democrats kept calling, “valid concerns” throughout the June 5th public comment period, that the Democrats were willing to ignore those concerns and push this vote through.

Let's make it clear that the people that are voting to continue to support bringing in Diebold's Touchscreen Voting Machines, forced vote by mail, and doing away with poll places, virtually guaranteeing unverifiable elections procedures, include:


Bob Ferguson
Larry Gossett
Larry Phillips
Julia Patterson
Dow Constantine


King County deserves better than this.

Posted by: Gentry Lange on June 20, 2006 09:17 PM
33. June 20,2006
TO the (DCC)

Buy the past votes on Monday’s dog and pony show by the (DCC) Ron Sims and his democratic controlled council (DCC) Phillips and his side kicks Patterson, Gossett, Ferguson and Constantine are the laughing stock of King County. By bringing out going Logan for back wasn’t a mandate to past the ballot ordnances. The all mail balloting should have gone to the Voters. As Patterson and Constantine have said the voters put us in office to make these decisions. But what they forgot the public put them in office to make smart decisions, they failed again.

George
Washington grown
Voter since 1968

Posted by: George on June 20, 2006 09:22 PM
34. I would like to comment that there were possibly more Democrats in support of poll voting in the audience at the King Co. Council meeting yesterday as Republicans and at least one person from the Green party. Hurrah to all of you!! This IS a bipartisan issue!!

Posted by: Marge on June 20, 2006 09:33 PM
35. Well, this is a slap in the face to myself and everyone who's right to vote was denied because a mail ballot arrived late. I am going to try and get a lawyer on stand-by so when I lose my right again, I believe it will happen again, I will sue.

Posted by: RennDawg on June 20, 2006 10:08 PM
36. Sims says fu@k off Washington voters, because now more than ever, we cannot say fu@k off back.
Not to worry, he is certain that he knows better, and he's looking out for all of us.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on June 20, 2006 10:09 PM
37. Banshee asked if there was an initiative process. I asked that question of Kathy Lambert. I even got a response. The initiative process is described in the Charter for New Legislation at http://www.metrokc.gov/mkcc/code/03-Charter.pdf

Posted by: Marge on June 20, 2006 10:42 PM
38. Me wonders if a state wide iniative could fix this?

We now have vote by mail in Whatcom county and I don't like it one bit.

Posted by: Brent in Ferndale on June 21, 2006 07:45 AM
39. Another shackle on your necks.

Posted by: Jericho on June 21, 2006 09:55 AM
40. "...but it's convenient!..." yea. so is drinking a bottle of ex-lax; however, the results for honest voters is the same;

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on June 21, 2006 10:16 AM
41. Subject: RE: Council's VBM plan
Date: 6/21/2006 9:09:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
From: Julia.Patterson@METROKC.GOV
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Dear Mr. Nichols,

Thank you for contacting me regarding the very important issue of how we conduct our elections. I appreciate the time you have taken to write and the opportunity to respond.

Last year the state legislature permitted counties in WA State to conduct elections entirely by mail. Since then, 34 counties across the state have elected to convert to all mail voting.

On Monday, the Metropolitan King County Council voted to make King County the largest local jurisdiction in the nation to conduct all elections by mail, once the infrastructure and management are in place to accomplish it.

I fully supported this action. It is long past time that the largest county in the state move to an all vote-by-mail system. More than 60 percent of voters already cast their ballots by mail and the number continues to increase every year. In the last general election, more than 80 percent of voters in my district chose a mail ballot.

The legislation approved by the Council directs the Elections Section to begin the process to implement all-mail elections, once it meets three specific requirements:

• Appointment and confirmation of both a Director of Records, Elections and Licensing Services and a Superintendent of Elections.

• Completion of the cultural change and management training recommended by the Council’s Citizens Elections Oversight Committee and Executive’s Independent Task Force on Elections.

• Council approval of an Executive plan for all-mail elections that includes cost estimates, locations, and security measures for regional voting centers and ballot drop boxes.

The current dual voting system requires 528 polling locations and close to 4,000 poll workers for a countywide election, plus a full-scale mail ballot processing operation and facility. The Council’s Citizens’ Elections Oversight Committee (CEOC) recommended moving to an all-mail ballot to streamline the election system, as did independent outside experts in testimony to the Council on March 6. The CEOC’s 2006 report stated that, “Running two separate elections processes (poll voting and mail voting) increases the likelihood of breaches in security and of human errors. As the public holds the Elections Section more accountable, there is a related responsibility to simplify the inherently complex election process.”

Again, thank you for contacting me. I appreciate hearing your opinion on this very important matter.

Sincerely,

Julia Patterson

King County Councilmember

District 5

206-296-1005
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Miss High and Mighty Patterson likes to hear from us, but she certainly doesnt listen very well......She needs to be RECALLED.......I am going to Pick this email apart in my spare time, and thorougly read what all their "Experts" had to say....Then I am going to Email her back with my OPINION, and the facts to back it up with.....

"Woohoo KC is the largest local jurisdiction in the nation to conduct all elections by mail. She is so proud!"

My Grandma always said "Watch what you wish for", I think grandma may be right on Ms Patterson's wish this time.....

Posted by: Chris on June 21, 2006 11:01 AM
42. Julia: "...more than 80 percent of voters in my district chose a mail ballot."
Jimmie: Yea? how many LEGAL CITIZEN voters?
Jimmie: Yea? how many of those votes were actually counted properly?
sorry Julia--pithy, happy letters to constituents sound nice--but ACTIONS showed us otherwise; too many screw-ups in 2004 to ignore;

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on June 21, 2006 12:16 PM
43. The apparent next step by the people is to draft an initiative to reverse all-vote by mail and to get enough signatures before the next election - how many and by when ? Tim Eyman are you listening ?

The next step after that is to start another petition to recall any one of five Democrat King County Council members, beginning with the ever-arrogant and ditzy Julia Patterson. I'll be ready to sign both of them - keep us posted, Stefan...

Posted by: KS on June 21, 2006 09:03 PM
44. I got exactly the same letter from Julia Patterson.

Posted by: Bob in SeaTac on June 22, 2006 03:05 PM
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