June 08, 2006
Mega-Church Coming to West Seattle

I wasn't at all fazed to hear a secular humanist academic claim that in fact Jesus may have actually walked on ice rather than water. But I am nonetheless awfully tickled to learn that a prominent conservative Seattle mega-church, Mars Hill (in Ballard) will be opening a West Seattle branch in what has been Doxa Church on 35th Ave. S.W.

This amplifies a quietly growing conservative Christian presence in Seattle which counters pat assumptions about the city's supposedly overwhelming leftist flavor. Previously, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer has reported on the conservative youth ministry of Generation Church at the University of Washington; and through its typical self-absorbed identity-politics lens, even Seattle's Sandinista weekly The Stranger has condescended to acknowledge another conservative Chrisitan ministry in Seattle, on Capitol Hill of all places.

I'm tickled to hear about the plans for Mars Hill West Seattle not because I agree with Pastor Mark Driscoll that homosexuality is a sin or that a woman's place is in the home (I don't); but because Mars Hill parishoners are young, conservative and get this - they believe in the importance of making smart personal choices, and in self-responsibility. That's fairly radical for some of Seattle's self-proclaimed intelligentsia, I know. Mars Hill parishoners are a plus for the community and certainly add to our cherished diversity here in Seattle. Unless your world view comes from The Stranger and you therefore equate a principled opposition to homosexuality and gay marriage with hate and ignorance.

This in-depth November 2003 Seattle Times Sunday magazine profile of Mars Hill and Driscoll gives some additional perspective.

Will the in-city parishoners of Mars Hill (Ballard and West Seattle) stay in Seattle as their children reach school age? (There are plenty of Catholic schools here, after all). Will they become, or are they already politically active - especially on bedrock good government issues rather than just the social conservative agenda? I wouldn't yet make too much of all this in political terms, but I guess I wouldn't make too little of it either.

Hat tip: West Seattle Blog, via Seattlest.

Posted by Matt Rosenberg at June 08, 2006 05:30 PM | Email This
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1. Mega-Churches bore me just as Wal-Mart does.

Posted by: Jim Carson on June 8, 2006 06:30 PM
2. Hey we are not all young there are a fair number of us old fogies that attend Mars Hill and I live in West Seattle so Iam very Happy with the Mars Hill move to West Seattle.

Posted by: Jim Clark on June 8, 2006 07:09 PM
3. I'll bet they start their own schools and not rely on the government schools. That is, if when they're ready to buy a house, they don't leave the area, for lack of houses available that a one-income-family can afford. I think you dealt with this topic (quite well) on your earlier post, Matt USA Today: Growth Management Drives Up Our Housing Prices.

Posted by: Michelle on June 8, 2006 07:25 PM
4. Isn't Mars Hill the same organization that runs the school in which Caprice Hollins is a faculty member?
Exactly how conservative can they be, then?
Maybe they know her, and what she writes about Seattle racism, and they don't care.
(Or they do care, but give her a pass for...for...academic freedom, or some other reason?)
Or perhaps they just don't know what she writes.

Posted by: pseudotsuga on June 8, 2006 08:24 PM
5. Or the winning answer: Mars Hill Graduate School in Bothell has no connection to Mars Hill Church based in Ballard.

Mars Hill also has a satelite congration in Shoreline at the Crista Campus for all who would care to join us.

Cheers!
JY

Posted by: JAY on June 8, 2006 09:06 PM
6. Aha! The winning answer! I have confused the two and I have erred. Apologies to Mars Hill Church for the confusion.

Posted by: pseudotsuga on June 8, 2006 11:32 PM
7. Matt,

Traditional Christian churches use God's Word, the Bible, as their guidepost. God's Word teaches that homosexuality is a sin. It is stated in plain language in numerous passages, in both Old and New Testament. His Word also teaches that Christians are to hate the sin but love the sinner. By placing a true church in the midst of Sodom (Seattle), God and those who believe in Him are opening His door to those who have ears to hear and repent.

Posted by: Saltherring on June 9, 2006 04:58 AM
8. I grew up a Christian conservative, going to a church much like Mars Hill, participating in mission trips, even going to events like "Aquire the Fire." But as I grew up, my faith in God--and my fellow human beings-- grew too.

I wasn't content to swallow just the lines of the Bible the pastor shouted out without context. And I wasn't content to live a life of faith out of fear and a superiority complex. Frankly, the church's message began to feel really shallow, and as my faith in God grew I came to realize a church like mine was reallly trying to gain a base of power--not just share The Word of Christ.

As I look back at my young friends from that church, and see how the church scarred their lives (not to mention their minds), it's frightening to know how "mega churches" like Mars Hill can derail a person's future by slowly melting away their God-given right to self-determination. I have friends who are, just now at 26, finally able to have a healthy relationship with God or with the opposite sex. Or, they're finally emerging from a long decade of self-loathing and a false show of cheerfulness.

Sure, there were a lot of happy times with that church, but those times were always deeply conditional and judgemental. In the end, it just wasn't healthy, and it wasn't Godly, either.

It is likely (and my prayer) that the young people at Mars Hill will come to know God in a healthier environment, and they will grow out of the fear and anxiety of differences in their world. They'll come to have a deeper faith in God, and a more complex one.

Posted by: beach on June 9, 2006 07:59 AM
9. Beach, have you actually been to Mars Hill and figured out what they teach and how they teach it? It sounds to me like you're assuming that if your last church was a "mega-church" with a conservative theology and if Mars Hill is a "mega-church" with a conservative theology, then they must have a fair number of other similarities. Most likely, they don't.

There's a lot of soul-sucking mega-churches out there (I've been to more than a few) and it sounds to me like you were involved in one. But it doesn't necessarily follow that Mars Hill is also a soul-sucking mega-church.

(Yes, I am a member.)

Posted by: Shane on June 9, 2006 09:22 AM
10. I wasn't at all fazed to hear a secular humanist academic claim that in fact Jesus may have actually walked on ice rather than water


Gee when do you suppose was the last time the Sea of Gallilee froze over? The tourist bureau warns people to bring plenty of sunscreen.

Posted by: RBW on June 9, 2006 09:23 AM
11. good to hear; anything that will put a pebble in a Seattle liberal's shoe will amuse me;

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on June 9, 2006 01:39 PM
12. Interestingly, this new West Seattle mega-church has NO parking. Not one spot. It will be interesting to see what kind of neighbor these folks are.

Posted by: surf logs kill on June 11, 2006 10:34 PM
13. "Mars Hill"? I love a Christian church with the Roman war god's name in the title! "Acquire the Fire" also rings pleasantly of the Circus Maximus.

I have no beef with Christ, but over the past six years I've grown sick to death of 'conservative Christians' and all the wonderful things they're trying to do to our secular republic.

That this "mega church" franchise (sounds so spiritual, doesn't it?) will bring a few more sanctimonious christers to my neighborhood on weekends is a drag to be sure.

Posted by: Indyscribe on June 17, 2006 02:31 PM
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