May 22, 2006
Let's Welcome David Postman To The Blogosphere

Yesterday, Seattle Times executive editor, Mike Fancher, announced that David Postman would be joining the blogosphere.   In his initial post, Postman promised, indirectly, to be "objective":

Before I could get started here, Eli Sanders at The Stranger's Slog posed the big question about the new blog on the block: Can an "objective" political blog make it in the world of Horsesass and Soundpolitics?

Or maybe he was promising to be "objective".  I admit to some puzzlement, since he seems to be saying that he will be somewhere between Horsesa** and Sound Politics, that is, somewhere between obscenity and sanity, and I am not quite sure just where that is.

But let's put that aside and welcome him, anyway.  And as part of our welcome, let me explain something about the blogosphere to him: It is far more interactive than newspapers.  Individual bloggers challenge other bloggers on their facts and reasoning, constantly.  Bloggers often criticize other bloggers (and journalists like Postman) for what they leave out.  And so, I am going to renew a challenge for Postman.

When Rodney Tom announced that he was switching parties, every news story that I saw just regurgitated the press release put out by Tom and the Democratic party.  But the story from Tom and the Democratic party was implausible.  As Stefan Sharkansky showed, Tom had been voting like a Republican.  And, as I argued, if anything, the Republican party had been becoming more moderate in recent years.  Nonetheless, local journalists saw nothing implausible in Tom's explanation, that the Republican party had become too extreme — or at least nothing that they wanted to publish.

But Postman is in the blogosphere now, and so I think it is fair to ask him to go back and look at the stories on Tom's switch a little more closely.  Does Postman really find those stories plausible?  Is he not even a little curious about what happened in the meetings between Tom and the Democratic officials before the switch?  And, would he ask Rodney Tom this question some time: Does he believe that Republican chairman Diane Tebelius is more "extreme" than Democratic chairman Dwight Pelz?

Others may have different challenges for Postman.  (And, if you do, feel free to add them in the comments.)  But I think that one is a good start.  Welcome to the blogosphere, Mr. Postman.

(By the way, as Postman may not know, it was blogger Bill Quick who thought up the word, "blogosphere".  And that's "Sound Politics", not "Soundpolitics".)

Posted by Jim Miller at May 22, 2006 10:38 AM | Email This
Comments
1. Good luck with that Postman. I'll be sure and point out every time you lack objectivity. SoundPolitics has a consevartive bias to be sure, but it's a heck of a lot more objective than HorsesAss. Welcome.

Posted by: Jeff B. on May 22, 2006 10:50 AM
2. Jim, thanks for the welcome. In no way was I saying I'd be somewhere bewteen Sound Politics and horsesass. Objective does not mean falling half way between two polar opposites. (That's what lazy reporting is.) I just used the names of two popular, local blogs that come from distinct political slants to explain what I won't be doing. Postman on Politics won't be like either of those blogs. As to your challenge, I've got lots to write about and I'll consider it along with everything else.

Posted by: David Postman on May 22, 2006 11:17 AM
3. Ah, come on Jim...you shouldn't put SoundPolitics down...you guys aren't obscene!

And, it's finally nice of you to point out that the guys over at ******ass are the sane ones.

Either way, I look forward to having Postman aboard. At least he'll actually check the FACTS of an issue before posting...unlike some bloggers I've read here at SP.

Posted by: rossi too on May 22, 2006 11:40 AM
4. Dad, you are going over the line again. Time to get back on the meds. Okay?

Posted by: rossi trey on May 22, 2006 11:55 AM
5. Good comments so far.

But what was Bryan Suits really saying? It couldn't be as simple as the quote "off the record" that Postman posted.

Posted by: swatter on May 22, 2006 11:59 AM
6. DAVID--
Will the Seattle Times Editorial Board be "editing" your Blog and "directing" you to focus on specific topics??
I've always found you to be a knowledgable and fairly even handed reporter. I say that knowing full well that your EDITORS have the final word in what gets printed. I presume that often times your stories get gutted or dumped....that you are pulled away from some issues and onto others. That is part of the business.

Will it be the same with your Blog????????

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on May 22, 2006 12:17 PM
7. David--good luck with your new endeavour. I hope you will get most of your research material from sources other than the AP wire and other Times reporters. I finally stopped subscribing to the Times after many years because I was tired of their "objective" reporting. And as Mr. Cynical noted, who really has the final say on what you put on your blog? What happens if you post something that upsets Baby Blethen?

Posted by: Burdabee on May 22, 2006 01:56 PM
8. Welcome mr postman.

Though you seem a leftie (i think i got that from watching various shows you are on), you strike me as a lefty who didn't leave his brain at the door.

Posted by: righton on May 22, 2006 01:58 PM
9. Swatter:

Suits said exactly what Postman noted. He explained that he thought that Wilbur and Carlson had operated in a way he chose (and chooses) not to. He explained his position, but it wasn't meant to hostile to Wilbur and Carlson.

It was as simple as it appears.

Posted by: Alex Hays on May 22, 2006 02:05 PM
10. David P. -- congratulations on your new blog. You are a good writer, and hopefully your blog will clarify important issues, as well as provide a forum for voices that otherwise would not be heard by the political leadership around here.

I also am concerned about your ability to present a balanced view of certain things, largely because you are an employee of one of the JOA partners. Take sound transit (please). The 2005 subarea equity report showed direct payments from ST to the Seattle Times of over one million dollars (that does not include flow-through payments from ST's media consultants, which funnelled even more ST money to the JOA partners). ST buys lots of good (or at least non-critical) ink around here.

Do you think that if there is an issue where the interests of taxpayers or private property owners are contrary to those of ST you would be able to at least fairly describe the nature of that conflict?

Thank you in advance!

Posted by: interested on May 22, 2006 02:18 PM
11. I think there is a simpler, less strenuous job that Mr. Postman can start with...using Stefan's database and discoveries of the 2005 election, Mr. Postman can COUNT THE VOTES!!!

Posted by: john425 on May 22, 2006 03:31 PM
12. ERRRR- the 2004 election, I mean.

Posted by: John425 on May 22, 2006 03:32 PM
13. Welcome to the Blogosphere, David. I look forward to reading it going forward.

One question, though, on the Brian Suits quote. If what Carlson and Wilbur did was "leadership," then what was the Seattle P-I doing with their daily unsigned editorial and should the same restrictions apply considering such daily publication amounts to a billboard, not pure advocacy?

At the end of the day, I really believe we are far better off with "leadership" on issues is no different than "advocacy" on such issues because drawing such a vague line ultimately provides no additional enlightenment but certainly provides plenty of additional opportunities to restrict free speech. I'm just wondering where you stand on all this and whether you're allowed to comment on the position of the P-I on this issue since it was so different from the Times' take.

Posted by: Marc on May 22, 2006 04:42 PM
14. Jim,

I'm a bit surprised that you are welcoming Postman to the blogosphere. For years I've heard his "news articles" decried by many conservatives as opinion columns. Politics is one of the more challenging fields to report -- and while I think Postman has always attempted to be even-handed, that's not the same as objective.

Take for instance that his columns appear on the "News" page of the Times. In reality, he's doing "News Analysis". Two different categories, with the latter more suited for an editorial page. Overall, I think it'll be interesting to see how Postman uses his new blog -- will it be a sounding board like the PI's popular "Soundoffs" or will it be a place for him to say what he really thinks about politics and where we're heading in Washington state?

Posted by: Patrick on May 22, 2006 05:19 PM
15. I would love to hear David's comments on Nickel's proposed $1.8 BILLION tax increase proposal....
This will go down like the wet steaming sack of poop it is.
Existing taxes should support much of this.
The coffers have been pilfered for other DISCRETIONARY junk.
They ALWAYS seem to peel off the important things and say they can't do it without a tax increase.

Is Mayor PhatAss saying all the items on his list are the LOWEST PRIORITY for City Government???
If not, why doesn't he put forth some of the other DISCRETIONARY NONSENSE for the Public vote, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

What a dishonest SOB Nickels is!!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on May 22, 2006 05:55 PM
16. Nice to see that Sandeep from the County Executives Office is in on the McGavick Thread at the Postman blog on day one. It must be a slow indoctrination day over at King County. Nobodys property rights to violate, No Illegals to get rehired by arm twisting a private business owner. Of course it's five o'clock somewhere Sandeep! You can practice the liberal values of "Drinking and F#%*king" with Dwight up at your favorite place on Capitol Hill.

Posted by: Smokie on May 22, 2006 06:22 PM
17. So far I can see a little bit of the "evenhandedness" going by the wayside on the price gouging article. The evidence of price gouging was related to local issues rather than the evidence that Cantwell has been looking for all along. It is clearly an example of Cantwell not finding the game she thought being played on the playground so she's redefining what game it was she was looking for in the first place. This would seem to be a perfect example for him to point out that her search for big oil price gouging is what the folks on the left often term a "McCarthyist witch hunt," and yet it goes by the wayside with nary a critical eye.

Well, at least I can be disappointed on day one....

Posted by: Marc on May 22, 2006 07:25 PM
18. NEWS FLASH!!!!
William Jefferson (D-La) continues to assert his innocence and shares for the first time his defense. William Jefferson alleges that the figure in the videotape was not him. Rather it was actually George Jefferson, the former dry-cleaning magnate. William Jefferson went on to chronicle a very sad tale about how actor Sherman Hemsley is still attempting to recover from his 1999 Bankrupcy. Actor Sherman Hemsley’s (The Jefferson’s, Amen) decision to invest his savings in a failed 1987 movie, Ghost Fever (1987) was the beginning of his financial undoing and led to his decision to seek bankruptcy-court protection in 1999 as his debts amounted to $1 million, the New York Post reported, citing court records. His lawyer, Joseph Schleimer, told the newspaper, “It’s not a secret. … Like many actors, he did not handle his money very well.” In desperation to feed his family, Hemsley dressed up as William Jefferson and is clearly the figure seen on that videotape!

Perhaps David Postman can comment on this new development.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on May 23, 2006 05:44 AM
19. Postman has already commented in his comments, so you gotta give him props for that.

Posted by: Easycure on May 23, 2006 06:51 AM
20. Catch the wave David. I knew you were not a peasant the first time I met you. Up until now I have noticed that you don't take yourself too seriously. Be objective but don't take any shit from anyone and be outspoken and call things what they are. SLAP DOWN SPIN!!!

Posted by: Particle Man on May 26, 2006 05:06 PM
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