March 13, 2006
It's in the P-I

The terrorism enthusiasts at the Seattle Post-Intelligencer editorial board are having a virtual pancake breakfast this morning to celebrate Rachel Corrie, who accidentally died three years ago while trying to protect a terrorist smuggling tunnel "Rachel Corrie: Invisible no more"

The London play, "My Name is Rachel Corrie," is about the inspiration to be drawn from a caring young person's engagement with the world. In one of its many beautiful lines, the play quotes an e-mail from her worrying mother, Cindy, "Palestinians have really been invisible to me, but you are changing that."
Rachel Corrie might have inherited her ignorance and naivete from her mother. As anybody who reads a newspaper or watches TV knows, the Palestinians have been quite visible for decades.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at March 13, 2006 11:38 AM | Email This
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1. I feel sorry for her death but she was doing something stupid. Support killing of hundreds of Israel's. Destroying homes is not as bad as let say Germany did in WWII for each German killed dozens of prisoners where killed. Israel was trying to minimize the killing but making a point if a member of your family kills someone in Israel well you will have to pay a price. Since the murder killed himself you can not punish him. Our courts would let the bomb maker off because he only provided the weapon he did not cause it to blow up.
The whole Middle east situation is a tough nut. But blaming the jews as being the cause is not fair. Remember the palestines got nearly everything they wanted from Israel via President Clinton. What did they do start a bombing campaign. The truth is To the Palestinians the only Good Jew is a Dead Jew. Arafat is the reason for the unrest. And now he must answer to the MAKER.
Now the people voted in terrorists. There goal is to kill all jews. We will have no peace and people like Rachel are being used to continue the killing. I hope her mom realize that her daugher and her personal actions are costing more innocent lives on both sides. Kids dont think through their actions. In this case it is being used as an excuse to continue the killing. What a proud rememberance of her life.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on March 13, 2006 12:00 PM
2. The P-I excluded, in its quest for sainthood on Ms. Corrie's behalf, the common Internet photo of our saint-in-waiting 'teaching' international relations to Palestinian children, face contorted in a furious tantrum, by personally setting fire to a homemade American flag.

ALL the news that's fit to print, O learned editors, not just some of it.

Posted by: Hank Bradley on March 13, 2006 12:05 PM
3. Some just have their heads in the sand!

Posted by: dcat on March 13, 2006 12:15 PM
4. Palestinian terrorism is at historic lows since the wall went up. Imagine that. And it was liberals (again on the wrong side) who were vehemently opposed to Sharon's wall.

Posted by: Palouse on March 13, 2006 12:21 PM
5. What do you expect from the left sympathizers!

Posted by: dcat on March 13, 2006 12:34 PM
6. Arafat promised he would prevail based on "the wombs of Palestinian woman"....in other words, use the woman to breed terrorists in a vast quantity. The birthrate was at one time over 7 per woman. I'm sure naive Ms. Corrie failed to open her eyes to the abusive situation Palestinian women were and are in. Good for one thing, right Rachel's Adoration Society???

And one other thing Stefan....NO PANCAKE BREAKFASTS. Pancakes are an American staple. The Corrie fanatics hate America.
However, they love France.
So in all due respect to the dead woman (which is close to NONE), let's at least call it a CREPE'S BREAKFAST with a side-order of I SURRENDER SAUSAGE (patty-style of course!).

Posted by: dude on March 13, 2006 12:56 PM
7. There are others at fault. Those who led a young idealistic woman to behave in a manner, in a place, that said behavior would not tolerated.

Lesson for the masses: You might be a U.S. citizen, but outside of the U.S. you DO NOT have the protection of the Constitution.

Therefore: When in another country, DON'T mess with the Police or Military. It could end up far different than you expect.

Posted by: Jack Burton on March 13, 2006 01:03 PM
8. Does anyone else besides me find it abso-freakin-lutely hillarious that they're having a 'pancake' breakfast in her honor??!!

Posted by: Sid on March 13, 2006 01:11 PM
9. For a picture of the lovely and gracious Ms. Corrie teaching young children how to hate, see this link.

http://tinyurl.com/38u27

Posted by: Huey on March 13, 2006 01:33 PM
10. Back about 15 or 20 years ago, the people on the left were all upset about Central America and Ronald Reagan. Down in Concord, CA there's a naval weapons facility. These protestor guys thought it would be a great statement to lie across the railroad track to try to stop the train carrying the Navy's stuff.

The problem was that it takes a long time to stop a train, and the protestors didn't account for that. This one guy lost both legs to this stunt. He must have been a true believer because he was quoted after the incident as saying something to the effect, "Now I have joined the legless children of Nicaragua (SP?)." The guy actually became a double amputee for his zealotry.

Rachel Corrie is an even sadder example of just doing something really dumb to call attention to a political cause. Getting run-over by a D-9 bulldozer is not the brightest thing in the world to do. Having a pancake breakfast to celebate this unwise activity is really, really dumb.

Posted by: Libertarian on March 13, 2006 01:37 PM
11. What I learned from Rachel Corrie:

Don't stand in front of bulldozers? Nope I learned that one by the time I was six, by that time I was smart enough that something that big would make a really bad ouch.

Respect the laws of countries you may visit? (An exception would be if you are engaged in civil disorder and are prepared to pay the consequences). We went oversee when I was young, my parents made sure I knew we were guests in the country and should behave like guests.

The last lesson I didn't learn from Rachel Corrie was that defending homes containing smuggling tunnels for weapons that would be targeted at women and children is morally reprehensible.

One more thing, supporting terrorist infrastructure makes one an enemy. If one would really care to be technical Rachel Corrie was a legitimate wartime target. Since she was not in uniform and defending a legitimate target, the tunnel, she was an illegal combatant, you don't need to be armed to enjoy that classification.

Posted by: JCM on March 13, 2006 03:12 PM
12. I'm not easily offended but I think that's attrocious that these people are (if Stefan's info is correct) holding a pancake party.

Posted by: Reporterward on March 13, 2006 03:18 PM
13. Any word on how the pancake breakfast for Rachel Corrie went yesterday morning in Victoria?

As for the double amputee, I think the engineer of that train sued him for intentional infliction of emotional distress. I wonder how that lawsuit came out.

Posted by: Richard Pope on March 13, 2006 03:18 PM
14. Personally, I hold Evergreen College responsible for Corrie's death.

Posted by: Organization Man on March 13, 2006 03:37 PM
15. Well, at least Rachel's parents are proud of their offspring. My question...why weren't they over there with her, arm in arm?

Posted by: Danny on March 13, 2006 03:56 PM
16. When she was at Burning Man in 2002 she went around chanting "Die Hippie Die".

Hardly the words of a woman of peace.

Want to bet that what she was saying when she was burning that flag was "Die Jew Die"

http://newjersey.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/10/rachel-corrie-flag-burner1.jpg

It is interesting to read what her "friends" had to say about her at the Burning Man Yahoo group site.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/burningman-bcwa

Posted by: . on March 13, 2006 04:41 PM
17. Rachel Corrie died from an excess of stupidity. Not hero material at all. Here is a real hero -- Syrian-American psychiatrist, Dr. Wafa Sultan:

"We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them."

Posted by: starboardhelm on March 13, 2006 06:15 PM
18. Here is a link for the vidio/audio of Dr. Wafa Sultan. It is well work watching.

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null

Posted by: Gil on March 13, 2006 06:44 PM
19. starboardhelm, here is the link to the video of her interview that was mentioned in the nytimes article you cited.

http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null

Posted by: Obi-Wan on March 13, 2006 06:48 PM
20. Gil, great minds think alike!

Posted by: Obi-Wan on March 13, 2006 06:49 PM
21. As a parent, I find the glorification of Rachel Corries death extremely disturbing! I certainly would not want my children to ever get the mistaken idea that what she did was honorable or noble.

She is just another casualty of the liberal socialism that is brainwashing our kids! Her parents should have discouraged her and tried to remove her from the cult...but instead they applauded her ignorant actions and now she's dead.
The Palestinians are not grieving over Rachels death. They celebrate it! ....Just as they celebrated in the streets when our towers fell on 9/11....

If you're going to pick a cause to fight for...at least choose one that supports your fellow Americans...Not the terrorists.

Posted by: Deborah on March 13, 2006 08:05 PM
22. Corrie is yet another newly minted Saint of Liberal Relativism. She pretty much has a death wish going over there in the first place. It's crazy to think that a white American would attract no one who might want to kill them, simply because they were American, let alone protesting in the presence of a D9 bulldozer.

Sadly for her, since her death has been politicized, there will always be a percentage of us that could really care less.

And yes, Wafa Sultan is the real hero. That video clip is one of the more watched clips on the Internet these days. She was the perfect person to say what she said and boy did she say it well. I'm surprised there has been no fatwa issued yet, but that's how we know we are making the points that Muslims don't want to hear. Kudos to her courage. Clearly she's an Objectivist. Excellent. Reason is our best guide. And reason demands that given the lessons of history, we confront Islamic fanaticism and terror before it brings about another genocide.

Posted by: Jeff B. on March 13, 2006 08:25 PM
23. It is quite humorous that they chose "pancakes" for breakfast.

Posted by: Jeff B. on March 13, 2006 08:26 PM
24. Ok, I get it now. You all WANT to believe she is dead. You WANT to believe she is idealistic, naive, dumb, stupid - your words!

Yet no one can show me a news item saying where whe was BURIED and when. Now, why did I capitalize 'buried?' Because someone kindly sent a note in an earlier post saying she was buried in Tumwater, Wash.

However, if you read news articles about this, you will see that a 'memorial service' was held for her in Tumwater. Memorial services are usually held with the dearly departed not on the scene - whether as body or ashes. Memorial services normally are held in a place when the dearly departed died somewhere else, but were known and appreciated in the place where the service was held.

She could have been buried back in the South where she and her family were from originally, but I couldn't find any news items from that part of the country noting the arrival and disposition of her body.

I thought you all doubted the reports of the mass media and the Palestinians and the International Solidarity Movement? I thought you all were rational, thoughtful, analytical, somewhat cynical folks.

Guess not.

Posted by: mac on March 13, 2006 08:57 PM
25. I find it amusing that y'all assume that liberals worship Rachel Corrie and the Palestinians. Jews (who tend to support Israel) voted overwhelmingly (CNN's exit polls say 74%-25%) for Kerry over Bush. Sorry to introduce facts that conflict with your simplistic world view that liberals are responsible for all evil.

Posted by: Bruce on March 13, 2006 09:08 PM
26. "Jews (who tend to support Israel) voted overwhelmingly (CNN's exit polls say 74%-25%) for Kerry over Bush."

This is no secret bruce, you moron. All it proves is that (in addition to being evil) liberalism is a mental disorder. Sorry to introduce facts that conflict with your simplistic world view that liberals are responsible.......

Posted by: alphabet soup on March 13, 2006 09:26 PM
27. JCM--my sentiments exactly--if you are an adult, or nearly so, you take the consequences of your actions and your "causes;" people will love you, others will hate you; too bad; pick your cards & play the hand; it's called accountability; when our Colonial Forefathers took up arms, they knew the cost...likewise with this girl's family; no more no less; faux sainthood devalues the meaning of REAL saints--here's my parting shot: Bless our Troops! and thanks to them for my ability to still freely fly my U.S. flag daily in this turbulent world! the Troops also made it possible for the victim's family to get air time and travel freely--you think those rights were just an accident?!

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on March 13, 2006 09:43 PM
28. I'll second that soupy,

Bruce you are a moron and probably an Evergreen Grad! This backward ass institution of higher education is a sess-pool for liberal inbreeding!

This idiot was a product of her environment.

Pancake indeed! Who's next? I'd like to see a whole boat load of them head over there and act the same as this brilliant leader of the pack!

Posted by: SP Fan on March 13, 2006 09:57 PM
29. When you go to a war zone, you need to be prepared to be a casualty. You need to know that it's a dangerous place. You need to be smarter than to stand in front of a moving bulldozer. And most of all, you need to know that being a liberal activist does not exempt you from any of these dangers. I think she was incredibly naieve. At least we now have proof of Evergreen's capacities in teaching critical thinking.

Posted by: katomar on March 13, 2006 10:03 PM
30. ...now--the Seattle City Council members will stumble over themselves racing to be the first to tie up hours of taxpayer time passing a resolution honoring this ditzy kid;

just watch--the new downtown "art park" will have some memorial; any Counties need renaming?--ooops--sorry, Recent MLKing Co.--say--any streets need remanimg? libraries? hey--do I know my Ouija Board or what?!

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on March 13, 2006 10:17 PM
31. Isn't there a county in WA that could be renamed in honor of Rachel? Or better yet, some elementary school?

Posted by: Danny on March 14, 2006 05:10 AM
32. So, not that there's any point I'm sure, but there are just a couple of really egregious distortions of fact here that I feel compelled to correct:

"Germany did in WWII for each German killed dozens of prisoners where killed. Israel was trying to minimize the killing but making a point if a member of your family kills someone in Israel well you will have to pay a price."

When it comes to ratios, Israel kills approximately 3.5 Palestinians for every Israeli that is killed by Palestinians-- not the other way around. The comparison seems particularly inappropriate since many of the Palestinians killed are civilian noncombatants living in refugee camps.

"We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them."

While I agree with Dr. Sultan's sentiment in its broad strokes, the fact is that Jews have engaged in significant acts of political violence. They bombed the British embassy in Rome in 1946. They have protested by killing people, including perfectly innocent people-- in fact, we've seen them protest by assassinating the prime minister of Israel. Some of them even went so far as to propose an alliance with the Nazis in the early phase of World War II. Whether they were provoked is another question, but Dr. Sultan's assertions about the piety of Jewish behavior are clearly mistaken.

People who accuse Corrie of anti-Semitism conveniently ignore reports that she burned the paper American flag at one demonstration-- after refusing to burn an Israeli flag.

None of this is meant to debate your opinions. I don't agree with most of them, but I don't see the point in debating them with you all. I'm just posting this to respond to points of content.

Posted by: Joshua on March 14, 2006 07:29 AM
33. Oops. Missed a blockquote tag there.

Also-- the BBC News domain is blocked from the comments section here? That's... interesting.

Posted by: Joshua on March 14, 2006 07:31 AM
34. they don't need to name a county after her, just an IHOP will do.

Posted by: dave on March 14, 2006 07:41 AM
35. Rachel Corrie was full of hate.

She lived like a nazi.

So I have no sympathy for her dying like one.

In fact it is my personal opinion that had Rachel Corrie returned to our area she could have quite likely become an US Suicide Bomber and could have killed many people here by wearing a jacket full of explosives and setting it off at a place where there were lots of people.

I feel like I personally owe the Israelis one. Who knows, Rachel Corrie could have killed some of my friends, family, or myself. I feel like we really dodged a significant tragedy in the Puget Sound Region.

Posted by: Bert on March 14, 2006 07:48 AM
36. Joshua sez:
"People who accuse Corrie of anti-Semitism conveniently ignore reports that she burned the paper American flag at one demonstration-- after refusing to burn an Israeli flag. "

So Joshua, you are saying Corrie was somehow pro-Israel even though she was standing in front of an Israeli bulldozer while siding with the Palestinians in a Isreal/Palestine conflict????
Ohhhhhhhhh, that's right....she was over there blaming everything on the US!

Don't you KLOWNS ever see the folly of your ways?
Making Rachel Corrie into an anti-US martyr is beyond ridiculous. It was an Israel/Palestine conflict she stuck her nose (and unfortunately the rest of her too) into!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on March 14, 2006 08:08 AM
37. Mac,

No burial, because she was cremated.

Posted by: JCM on March 14, 2006 08:13 AM
38. So Joshua, you are saying Corrie was somehow pro-Israel even though she was standing in front of an Israeli bulldozer while siding with the Palestinians in a Isreal/Palestine conflict????

No. But nice try.

Posted by: Joshua on March 14, 2006 08:55 AM
39. With as much vile rhetoric against Rachel out there, comments on planning to desecrated her grave. I don't blame her parents for not having a burial site.

As stupid, misguided, and wrong headed Rachel was no one deserves to have their grave desecrated.

Posted by: JCM on March 14, 2006 09:18 AM
40. I heard about this Baptist Church in Kansas whose member show up at the funerals of servicemen and women killed in Iraq to protest that the deaths are a result of God punishing America for such things as homosexual rights and other “liberal agenda” issues. These so-called Christians are chuckleheads. First, any group – Christian, Jewish, Islamic, or otherwise – that claims they know what God is thinking is full of cr*p. Their view on God and religion is no more valid than anyone else’s view.

Second, I assume these people support our military. How can this Kansas church claim to support the troops by causing an embarrassing and humiliating scene at the funeral of a service member who was killed in Iraq or Afghanistan? Do they not have any respect and consideration of the family of the person who was killed? From where I come, these church people would be labeled poor white trash.

I generally side with conservatives on a lot of money and tax issues, but I’ve got to part company in a big way with anyone that condones such reprehensible behavior.

Posted by: Libertarian on March 14, 2006 09:19 AM
41. Libertarian,

Your talking about Rev. Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church. He does not support the troops, his take is the Iraq War is punishment on the US military of the "don' ask, don't tell" policy.

He celebrates the the deaths of the troops and homosexuals.

He twists scripture to his warped mind.

Matthew
7:23 And then I will declare to them: I never knew you. Depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.

Posted by: JCM on March 14, 2006 09:36 AM
42. JCM is right. I don't know any conservative who supports or excuses Fred Phelps. In fact most do what they can to obstruct his disgusting activities. People like Support Our Troops here in Washington and the Patriot Guard Riders all over the country.

http://www.patriotguard.org/

Posted by: RBW on March 14, 2006 10:47 AM
43. JCM - thank you!

Posted by: mac on March 14, 2006 07:17 PM
44. Robert Jamieson of the P-I gets it wrong. Again. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/263218_robert16.html

Posted by: Ingraham on March 16, 2006 07:35 AM
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