February 08, 2006
Bogus Voting Residences (II): Microsoft HQ

Thanks to everyone for sending their findings of people who are registered to vote at bogus residences, discovered using the new online statewide voter database. I'll post examples of these as a recurring feature, until either (a) our elections officials actually do their jobs and clean up the voter rolls, or (b) I can't stand doing it any more.

Today's installment of "Bogus Voting Residences" is Microsoft worldwide corporate headquarters, 1 Microsoft Way in Redmond, where 6 people are registered to vote. Thanks to several readers for the tip.

[Our first installment in the series was yesterday's "Seattle Office Towers". Please send me your findings of Bogus Voting Residences from the online statewide database. Please do NOT post links to database queries in the comments.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 08, 2006 08:44 PM | Email This
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1. Note the apartment number. Clever. Here is a voter registered in an office with an apartment. A live in lover, perhaps?

Posted by: Snuffy on February 8, 2006 09:13 PM
2. Stefan, now you've gone and shown a sign of weakness: "...or (b) I can't stand doing it any more."

Deanron will hold out even longer now that they can see a glimmer of hope in outlasting you. :-)

Posted by: Micajah on February 8, 2006 09:37 PM
3. I work at Microsoft and so looked the people listed up in the corporate address book. Two of the people listed having 1 Microsoft Way voter registration residences currently work in offices in other countries. What is someone on job assignment out of the country who wishes to maintain Washington residency supposed to list as their residence address?

Posted by: Peter Carlin on February 8, 2006 11:01 PM
4. Q: What is someone on job assignment out of the country who wishes to maintain Washington residency supposed to list as their residence address?

Fair question. They're supposed to use their last legal residential address. See this website for more information
http://www.fvap.gov/index.html

Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on February 8, 2006 11:06 PM
5. I also work at Microsoft and looked up those names, it appears that 3 of them are employees working out of the country, and one is probably a spouse of one of the employees.

In this case, I don't have a problem with them doing this. Not just because I work for Microsoft too, but because this is at least an address where they can recieve mail. And their employment with a Redmond based company also lends weight to their assertion that they are legally entitled to vote in Washington, even though they are currently living overseas.

What good would it do to list your last legal residence if you have no connection to that anymore? You wouldn't recieve mail there, and it would cast even more doubt on your status as a legitimately registered voter. What if the person I purchased my house from two years ago did that? And I then look up my own address and find someone's name who I think shouldn't be registered here. I think that whole "Last legal residence" thing simply doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: Jason on February 8, 2006 11:16 PM
6. Jason & Peter...there is a legal method to handle this situation, and this is not it.

Posted by: dl on February 8, 2006 11:36 PM
7. I believe that the voter registration form allows one to list two addresses. 1) Their residential address, and 2) Their mailing address.

It's a fair statement about getting one's mail at work, especially if you work overseas and the company will forward your mail to you. However, they can list their business address as their mailing address.

Posted by: Darth Voter on February 8, 2006 11:39 PM
8. I know a spot just off the end of pier 28, there might be a few registered voter in residency there.

Posted by: Joey bag of doughnuts on February 9, 2006 12:03 AM
9. Citizens of Washington State need to take action to STOP the passage of two bills that are in the Senate and the House in Olympia. These 2 bills are Senate Bill 6886 and HB 2594 (Providing assistance to non-English speaking voters.)

All Washington state citizens need to phone, fax or email their respective Senator and Representatives and ask them to vote "NO" against these bills.

If passed, these bills will require that our tax dollars be spent on printing and providing bilingual voting registration forms, ballots and all voting material for any language group, including having interpreters at the polling place.

In the words of Theodore Roosevelt, 1907 "We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language."

It is not our responsibility to learn to speak 300 languages, it is the immigrants responsibility to learn to read, write and speak English and assimilate into our society, not ours into theirs.

Speak what you want at home, but in public places, speak ENGLISH.

Posted by: Leon on February 9, 2006 01:40 AM
10. "Two of the people listed having 1 Microsoft Way voter registration residences currently work in offices in other countries. What is someone on job assignment out of the country who wishes to maintain Washington residency supposed to list as their residence address?"
An interesting question. If they work permanently in another country, what is their permanent residence? If they are American citizens, then where do they live?
This happened to me when I worked in Korea for a year--I had my mail all sent to my parents' home in Oregon, since that was my last legal residence. It seems like a gray area, or an attempt to take advantage of the system, to list an office as a place of residence. Is the law that fuzzy, or are these people that desperate to remain Washington residency that they can't give it up for a while? Surely they can reestablish residency when they come back into the country, can't they?

Posted by: pseudotsuga on February 9, 2006 06:29 AM
11. http://www.fvap.gov/index.html

As Stefan pointed out a visit to this website will detail the accommodations for voting while away. The form requires the voter to provide their last registered address and space is provided for a mailing address. The ballots may be transmitted in some cases, depending on county, electronically by fax or even email. I suspect that the reasons the last registered address is a requirement is 1.)to prevent the possibilities of two ballots for one person. One to the last registered address and one to the new registered address and 2.)to count the vote in the proper precinct. For example if the person lived in Snohomish and registered in Renton (Microsoft), then that person will be voting on school bonds for Renton not on bond issues in Snohomish where they may have an interest. Good grief, traveling and working afar is not new. Regulations exist to provide for that contingency.There is simply no valid argument to register your residency at your company address. Your mailing address may be at the company.

Posted by: Snuffy on February 9, 2006 07:08 AM
12. "Today's installment of "Bogus Voting Residences" is Microsoft worldwide corporate headquarters, 1 Microsoft Way in Redmond, where 6 people are registered to vote."

Maybe they're Ooompa Loompas.

Posted by: ScottM on February 9, 2006 07:10 AM
13. In this case, I don't have a problem with them doing this. Not just because I work for Microsoft too, but because this is at least an address where they can recieve mail.

Hmmm...I'm not sure where to go with this, and I suspect you don't either. Do we...

---Ignore the law? Who decides what laws get ignored?

---Change the law? I don't see that a person living overseas should be voting anything but a Federal ballot. While this person may plan to come back to the US, even Redmond, there's no indication he would be living in the same precinct...or in this case, that he ever lived in that precinct.

Posted by: South County on February 9, 2006 07:38 AM
14. South County, you beat me to it...

Having lived and worked overseas myself a couple of times, it makes sense to me that someone currently residing outside the country (and who is not maintaining a local residential address) should list their overseas address as their current residence. They should not be voting on precinct-level ballot issues (levies, bonds, etc.), as they are (presumably) not currently contributing to them. This of course would not be true if they are maintaining their local residential address, paying property taxes, etc. (as we did once, with other family members in residence during our absence).

Posted by: Patrick on February 9, 2006 08:14 AM
15. Here's a question for you folks. Can a company (the owners of the buildings) request that voter registrations at their buildings be removed? Obviously, since the Microsoft buildings (among others) are not residential offices, it would seem illegal to me to have people "living" at these addresses. Seems that companies should be visiting these people and addressing their conserns (what ever reason they may think they have for registering at the business location).

Posted by: Mikey on February 9, 2006 08:59 AM
16. I also work at MSFT and a simple search on our intranet shows the following:

Personal mail is not to be sent nor received here at Microsoft. Any incoming mail deemed personal is subject to return. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and adherence to this policy.

So...it's both illegal AND against the Company's stated policy on mail.

Could any mail be "deemed more personal"?

These registrations should be changed to other locations.

Posted by: Matt on February 9, 2006 11:38 AM
17. So, I thought the MS folx were the best and the brightest -- these guys (and gals!) can't figure out how to comply with state laws?

Why am I not surprised? (Irony here is pretty deep - these are the guys that feign ignorance of many other federal and international laws, so I guess it runs pretty deep.)

Posted by: steve miller on February 9, 2006 12:34 PM
18. Heck, if they'd just invent an ironclad tamper-proof fool-proof internet browser and e-mail program, we wouldn't have to worry about any of this stuff.

As has been proven in Arizona in particular, we ain't there yet. Y'all git busy in Redmond, ok?

Posted by: SnoCo Voter on February 9, 2006 12:49 PM
19. Mike,
State law does not allow a change in voter registration without the consent and signature of the voter. However a voter’s registration can be challenged by another voter. State law also requires the person filing the challenge to provide the address at which the challenged voter actually resides.

This information was provided by the Kitsap County Auditor’s Office of Elections. I discovered that the person who sold us her house in 2004 was still registered at the house. The prior owner moved out of the State of Washington. I was told by the county that the voter registration for the prior owner will only change because one of the following occurs: a) the voter sends a notice of change to the Kitsap County Auditor, b) I locate the voter’s new address and challenge the voter’s registration, or c) mail sent to the voter from the Auditor’s office in two consecutive federal elections is returned to the Auditor’s office which then allows the county auditor to invalidate the voter’s registration. These are the only options per the county auditor. If Microsoft is returning voter mail to the auditor, the county will be able to change these registrations after two federal elections.

Posted by: Gordon on February 9, 2006 09:31 PM
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