January 30, 2006
Bestiality Bill

The state Senate Judiciary Committee is holding a hearing Tuesday on SB 6417 "Prohibiting sexual conduct or sexual contact with an animal". The bill offers the following definitions:

"Animal" means every creature, either alive or dead, other than a human being.
and
"Sexual contact" means any contact, however slight, between the sex organ or anus of a person and the sex organ, mouth, or anus of an animal, or any intrusion, however slight, of any part of the body of the person into the sex organ or anus of an animal, for the purpose of sexual gratification or arousal of the person. Evidence of emission of semen is not required to prove sexual contact.
I'm glad they cleared that up, but I guess it still boils down to what the definition of "is" is. Should the bill pass, by the way, Sexual Contact with Livestock will be considered a more serious crime than Theft of Livestock.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at January 30, 2006 10:34 PM | Email This
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1. Well, they used to hang horse thieves didn't they?

Posted by: Reporterward on January 30, 2006 10:58 PM
2. What's really sad is that someone will probably get a harsher penalty for having sex with a damn farm animal than molesting a child...

Posted by: JC on January 30, 2006 11:06 PM
3. "Sexual contact" means any contact, however slight, between the sex organ or anus of a person and the sex organ, mouth, or anus of an animal

REALLY? What about contact between the mouth of a person and the sex organ or anus of an animal?

SB 6417 needs to be amended to eliminate this loophole and bring Democrats to justice.

Posted by: Richard Pope on January 30, 2006 11:10 PM
4. Why is bestia1ity a more serious offense than residential burglary?

Posted by: Richard Pope on January 30, 2006 11:17 PM
5. Thats true RP. You should testify or call your legislators on that point.

But what do you mean by: "SB 6417 needs to be amended to eliminate this loophole and bring Democrats to justice." How would this bring Democrats to justice?...

On another topic:
For Stephan and fans

Posted by: Gerald on January 31, 2006 12:12 AM
6. WHAT IF... A NON-HUMAN ANIMAL COMPANION WAS TO SHOW THEIR INTERSPECIES COMMUNICATOR EFFECTION IN AN SEXUALLY DYSFUNCTIONAL MANNER...WOULD WE HOLD THE INTERSPECIES COMMUNICATOR RESPONSBLE OR WOULD WE ARREST THE NON-HUMAN ANIMAL COMPANION FOR RAPE...

WHAT IF THE NON-HUMAN COMPANION WAS A NON-PERSON PRESENTING THEMSELVES AS COMMODITY ALLOTMENT WITHIN A BUSINESS DOCTRINE!!! WOULD THEY THEN FALL UNDER THE DEFFINATION OF SEX CARE PROVIDER??

AND WOULD THE OFFENCE FALL UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE POLICE OR THE AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT???

I GUESS IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO HOW YOU BOVINE...ERRR...I MEAN...DEFINE "IS" !!!

Posted by: TACOMA PHLASH on January 31, 2006 12:25 AM
7. Gerald, I suggest that you carefully read the language of the statute. The way it's written doesn't criminalize oral human contact on an animal...So Mr. Pope, in a sarcastic way, is saying that Democrats play Monica to (the animals) Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Obi-Wan on January 31, 2006 12:29 AM
8. I knew the Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee hated KDewey KPelz!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on January 31, 2006 03:35 AM
9. I thought we just passed a bill against descrimination because of sexual orientation. If you get it on with fluffy the cat, isn't your sexual orientation towards animals being descriminated against?

Posted by: Jason Woodruff on January 31, 2006 04:52 AM
10. What about precious privacy matters? Who are they to say anything about this matter? (c'mon brainless...help us out)

Posted by: Danny on January 31, 2006 05:25 AM
11. The Queen will certainly express her outrage against this bill and veto it. After all, it may affect her plans to attend the first annual "Farm Day on Broadway" event in Seattle this summer.

Seriously, where will it all end? Deviants will push and shove until they destroy any and every semblance of morality and decency in society. This bill is just a crumb to show social conservatives that "even us democrats have a limit".

Go for it, Tim Eyman! Where do I sign?

Posted by: Saltherring on January 31, 2006 05:53 AM
12. My wife has said:

YOU ARE AN ANIMAL!

Does that mean I can't have sex anymore?

Posted by: Me on January 31, 2006 07:28 AM
13. But they can't seem to get their hands around a sexual predator bill.

Posted by: TH on January 31, 2006 07:58 AM
14. Aren't there more important issues for the bozos in Olympia to care about?

Posted by: Libertarian on January 31, 2006 08:37 AM
15. Gerald,

Please stop pimping your blog here. It's the lowest form of threadjacking.

Posted by: jimg on January 31, 2006 08:53 AM
16. I would appear that you can still perform oral sex on an animal by this law. Should be interesting to see the first horse BJ case go to court only to see it dismissed.

Posted by: H Moul on January 31, 2006 08:54 AM
17. (silly sarcasm)
Isn't this speciesist? Guess it's time to call Mooooooveon.org to get these discriminatory animals out of office. Just say Neeeiiigh!
(/silly sarcasm)
Okay, having got that out of my system, I must wonder if there aren't better things for our lawmakers to legislate.
Is this such a huge problem that we need to spend our expensive taxpayer dollars on it? They ought to feel sheepish about this. (Sorry, couldn't resist that last one!)

Posted by: pseudotsuga on January 31, 2006 08:54 AM
18. How can they do this when those who wish to practice this sort of "Sexual Orientation" is now protected by law? Isn't that discriminitory?

Posted by: Greg on January 31, 2006 08:56 AM
19. "Animal" means every creature, either alive or dead, other than a human being.

So according to the lib creed, babies in the womb... you know fetuses they claim are not human creatures must therefore be animal creatures.

No wonder they can't get elected.

Posted by: Cheryl on January 31, 2006 09:14 AM
20. Doesn't this bill discriminate against people whose sexual orientation involves animals?

Posted by: Rey Smith on January 31, 2006 09:31 AM
21. Boy, the Democrats really screwed the pooch on that one!

Randy

lifted from somewhere on the internet: The phrase screw the pooch first came into (public) popularity after the book The Right Stuff came out. The original expression was "f**k the dog" and meant to waste time or loaf on the job. It was military slang.

"F**k the dog" appeared in print for the first time in 1935 and over time the meaning shifted (from wasting time to screwing up badly, as Jim put it) and the "screw the pooch" wording took the place of the original phrase.

Posted by: Randy Mueller on January 31, 2006 09:33 AM
22. Does this mean that Goldy has to change the name of his website? Afterall, it does read any contact with an animal's anus, however slight.

If you scan through the comments of any given post at HorsesAss.org, there's a lot of people there who seem to be pretty aroused by be$tiality. Heck, there is one guy who thinks he is a rabbit.

Posted by: Jeff B. on January 31, 2006 09:54 AM
23. Under definition, where does "liberal" and "Democrat" animals fit in? I think the Dems made a big mistake allowing this one to go through.

Why do we need a law on this?

Posted by: swatter on January 31, 2006 10:04 AM
24. Jeez- talk about trampling on the rights of consenting adult livestock!

Posted by: John425 on January 31, 2006 10:11 AM
25. As has been stated before by others here.....isn't this discriminating against those whose sexual orientation is for animals?

And what about those poor people that go to a friends house and their dogs humps their leg? I guess that is OK since no mouth or anus...but if the dog blows his load then what? That would show sexual contact.

Posted by: Dengle on January 31, 2006 10:13 AM
26. Leave it to our State Politicians to promote the incidious act of a few, while "screwing" the legitimate voters at the ballot box.....

Wow !!! Will they now dictate whom we have sex with?

Posted by: Chris on January 31, 2006 11:27 AM
27. A limp-wristed slap on the fanny for the sponsor of this fine Legislation, the Honorable Senator BEN DOVER (Marxist) serving the Freemount District. Ben cannot afford to have any more of his constituents die lack his pal who went to Enumclaw....he needs the votes.
Ben ought to know that his dead pal can vote!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on January 31, 2006 11:33 AM
28. gee stefan...you are really screwed:

NO MORE MESSING AROUND WITH THE HORSES'ASS.ORG!

Posted by: rossi too on January 31, 2006 12:02 PM
29. What a lame straw man at the end.. There are always penalties out of whack with others given for differeing crimes..

Posted by: kerri on January 31, 2006 12:11 PM
30. I hope that the doctors at the STD ad Planned Parenthood clinics will be calling the police a lot in the near future!

Since "Animal" means every creature, either alive or dead, other than a human being and the VC or STD known as "crabs" involves a small creature that lives in the pubic zone and feeds through it "mouth?" off the host; anyone with "Crabs" might just be involved with Bes*iality.

Yes, by all means have them reported to the police or have the Doctor loose his/her license for not reporting such crimes.

Bes*iality should be illegal, not stupidity.

Posted by: Bob on January 31, 2006 12:28 PM
31. How about oysters? When you eat an oyster do you remove the sex organs and anus prior to adding the hot sauce?

How about plants? Don't plants have feelings too? Of course we make a habit of eating the sex organs from most plants anyway, but who is to say what is normal. Stop abusing the sex organ of the apple tree.

Posted by: Huey on January 31, 2006 02:33 PM
32. Since people like Matt Rosenberg and Jeff B and Patrick Bell have no problem with the Gay Bill that just passed and since they say Republicans should "Get with the 21st Century"(whatever that means) I say, LET'S OPPOSE THIS BILL.

We can get IN FRONT of this issue and support the Bes.tia.lity community. After all sooner or later this is going to be fully legal and "mainstreamed" anyway. So why fight the trend. We don't want to seem "behind the times.

Right guys. After all we must get "into the 21st Century".

The Best.iaility people are in play. Let's show some forward thinking on this.

Posted by: Alex on January 31, 2006 02:53 PM
33. I'm not trying to make the ribald or anything but, did anybody notice that "sexual contact" definition doesn't include the mouth of a human but the mouth of the animal is included. They covered all the other orifices however. What's with that?

Posted by: Steve-O on January 31, 2006 02:54 PM
34. Steve-O--
I think you are referring to the KDewey Kpelz "Rider" that was inserted to keep the KChairman happy.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on January 31, 2006 03:18 PM
35. Did anyone else see Finkbeiner's speech when he announced his new position on the garbage Gay Right's Bill??? Finkbeiner looked and talked exactly like an Al Qaeda hostage. He really looked shaken to me....and his tone lacked even a shread of sincerity.
David KLOWNstein threatened to OUT an unidentifed Republican Legislator if he did not change his stance and vote on this Bill. Remember that? KLOWNstein has never, ever since discussed that threat. Apparently, mission accomplished.
What do you think was the bottom-line here??

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on January 31, 2006 03:29 PM
36. Huh? They just passed bill that bans discrimination based on sexual orientation!

Posted by: BananaLand on January 31, 2006 04:45 PM
37. Alex,

Apparently you don't read very well. I am NOT in favor of the gay pride bill for the same reasons that Stefan listed.

I'm also against this bill because it's a waste of time. I don't believe people should be having sex with animals, but it's like sodomy, how is anyone going to find out in most of the cases? We've got far more pressing problems like inadequate roads, high taxes, and too many Democrats in power in this state.

Posted by: Jeff B. on January 31, 2006 04:54 PM
38. Mr. Cynical, I think you are on to something.

Posted by: Organization Man on January 31, 2006 05:18 PM
39. Funny thing about Goldy's threat -- everyone assumed that they were talking about a particular GOP state senator. But Goldy never specified who that senator was, or really gave too many hints. There was a reporter from The Stranger who actually got the courage to ask the question of the senator everyone thought Goldy was talking about. That senator said that he wasn't gay, admitted that a lot of people thought he might be gay, and that it didn't really offended him that some people had a mistaken view of his sexual orientation.

So exactly WHO was Goldy threatening with "outing"? I don't think it was the senator that everyone thought it was.

Posted by: Richard Pope on January 31, 2006 08:59 PM
40. LOL, very fitting that one of the busiest threads over here is on 'be*ti*lity'. Also fitting the Mr. Cynical is the bandleader.

Posted by: Cougar on January 31, 2006 09:34 PM
41. It's all so hypocritical. Less than a week after they passed a gay rights bill, they want to criminalize the latest love that "dare not speak its name???

Washington State is progressive enough to celebrate the sexual love between two men or two women, yet isn't enlightened enough to recognize the special bond that can exist between species??? Quel horrible! Would our politicoe's be more supportive if it were interspecies love within the same sex??? A man and his stallion, a woman and her sow???

Posted by: Cartman on January 31, 2006 09:49 PM
42.
Again, how do you inseminate a cow? Will a plunger qualify as being okay?

Posted by: swatter on February 1, 2006 08:04 AM
43. This post is for NL...

Does this mean that the dog and pony show in Olympia will have to be shut down???

Posted by: TACOMA PHLASH on February 1, 2006 11:07 AM
44. I suppose my "Shuck me, suck me, eat me raw" oyster t-shirt will be outlawed now.

Oh, and my "I love boobies" t-shirt, too (the blue-footed kind).

I mean, how can I prove my love for animals is purely platonic? Especially if someone overhears me drooling for a huge hunk of dripping hot steer meat? Or the way I love-talk to my puppy?

Posted by: Starboardhelm on February 1, 2006 06:01 PM
45. Here are two more reasons to question the so-called “gay civil rights” bill: Ferenc Zana and Christopher Bistryski.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/257658_zana31.html?source=mypi

Looks like the “gay civil rights” policy already in effect in King County is going to be costing us taxpayers something in the seven figures in damages to the family of Mohammed-Imad “Dimitri” Harb (who was murdered with Deputy Zana’s gun and King County’s bullets) and to the young man who Deputy Zana’s “domestic partner” handcuffed at gunpoint and anally raped while the deputy was in the apartment.

Unfortunately for King County taxpayers, the Sheriff’s Office felt it could not do anything to discipline or fire Deputy Zana based on his relationship with Bistryski, since Bistryski was his “domestic partner” and they did not want to be viewed as discriminatory:

“The Sheriff’s Office did as much as it could by warning Zana,” said sheriff’s spokesman Sgt. John Urquhart in an e-mail message to the P-I. “There is only so much any employer can do (especially a government employer) to delve into the private life of one of its employees. There is a limit on our authority to control the off-duty relationships of our deputies, like spouses, domestic partners or children. Remember, Chris (Bistryski) wasn’t just a roommate. He was Zana’s domestic partner, much like your wife or girlfriend.”

Records show Bistryski had medical insurance from the county as Zana’s domestic partner.”

I really don’t think much discrimination exists against gay people, and certainly don’t approve of people who discriminate solely based on straight or gay sexual orientation.

But these so-called “gay civil rights” bills really go way too far when they basically prevent employers from firing potential dangerous employees like Ferenc Zana.

Posted by: Richard Pope on February 1, 2006 07:04 PM
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