January 27, 2006
Let's give Danny a hand

Danny Westneat reacts to Mike McGavick's stump speech icebreaker line which humorously acknowledges (and helps move beyond) the fact that many people elsewhere in the state think of Seattle as more than a little weird.

Is McGavick right — are we also a city of secret shame? If so, what are people so embarrassed about?
The only thing that Westneat can think of that people are embarrassed about is the Monorail. A good call, but if that's all he can come up with, he obviously doesn't talk to a very diverse collection of people. I like a lot of things about Seattle too, but here are just a few of the things that this city should be embarrassed about:

* The Seattle City Council
* The King County Elections Dept.
* Sound Transit
* Sen. Jeanne Kohl-Welles
* The WTO riot
* The Seattle Post-Intelligencer
* The Greenlake Peace Vigil
* Joni Balter
* High incidence of auto theft
* The Seattle School District
* The Seattle Weekly's choice of "Best Activist"
* The Enumclaw Horse Lover who lived in Seattle
* Foolproof Performing Arts
* Ken Schram
* Deteriorating city streets
* Danny Westneat

Feel free to add to the list in the comments

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at January 27, 2006 12:16 PM | Email This
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1. That list about covers it.

Posted by: Hinton (Former Seattleite) on January 27, 2006 12:21 PM
2. Oh where to start....

* The I-5/Convention Center underpass
* Joel Connely
* The Kingdome (posthumously)
* The Viaduct
* The Sea Wall
* The proposed tunnel
* The Seattle Sounder (ok this is part of Sound Transit but it bears special mention)
* Patty Murray
* Maria Cant(vote)well
* Jim McDermot
* Strippergate

Posted by: Jamie Walker on January 27, 2006 12:32 PM
3. * The proposed and defended $4 billion tunnel to replace the viaduct.

* the money spent to put light rail tracks in the bus tunnel to begin with, but now the tunnel is closed for two years to do what? Oh yea, put the right light rail tracks in. (this really falls under the huge umbrella of debacle called "sound transit" that was already listed)

* the multihour standoff of a homeless person with a sword, snarling rushhour traffic for hours.


Posted by: rb on January 27, 2006 12:37 PM
4. I think McGavick was referring to was the liberal Democratic mindset of the proud citizens of the United States (er, I mean the United Nations).

Posted by: swatter on January 27, 2006 12:44 PM
5. How about:
**A RACIST City Council that uses gender & race as the criteria to fill a vacant Council Seat.
**David KLOWNstein and his band of merry LEFTIST PINHEADS
**Backing up Sewers
**Cost of living escalating much faster than working wages.
**The Freemount District
**Statue of Lenin
**Christian--haters

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on January 27, 2006 01:00 PM
6. Westneat's attitude reflects that of a snot nosed brat.

Danny boy needs to get out more and "hear" what the rest of the STATE has to say about Seattle. He truly is in denial.

He first sentence implies that McGavick is smearing the "Seahawks" glory. What the heck does Pro Football have to do with the shame.

The sad thing here is, Voters all over this state read this fish wrapping. Some will see through the bully, but some won't.

Posted by: Chris on January 27, 2006 01:01 PM
7. This is kind of hard to explain. If you're a real, native Washingtonian mossback, like myself, you do have a distaste about the direction the city of Seattle has gone since the 1990's or so.
If Danny were a "real" Washingtonian, he wouldn't even have to ask the rhetorical question about why someone would be embarrassed about coming from Seattle because he'd already know.

Posted by: Reporterward on January 27, 2006 01:02 PM
8. Who was it that said, "Seattle: 40 square miles, surrounded by REALITY!"

Posted by: alphabet soup on January 27, 2006 01:04 PM
9. Folks, its United States Senator Maria Cantwell if you believe in Mike McGavick's campaign of restoring civility.

Otherwise, nice lists.

Posted by: A Watchdog on January 27, 2006 01:26 PM
10. I AM NOT WESTNEAT. Now with that out of the way, I love the description Soup just gave. Slam dunk.

Posted by: Danny on January 27, 2006 01:27 PM
11. There's nothing wrong with Seattle than what's right with Seattle can't fix. We need to politically whip the stuffins out of all Republicans.

Your backwards looking skylarking is over!!!

Posted by: Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anabaptist on January 27, 2006 01:27 PM
12. There's nothing wrong with Seattle than what's right with Seattle can't fix. We need to politically whip the stuffins out of all Republicans.

Your backwards looking skylarking is over!!!

Posted by: Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anabaptist on January 27, 2006 01:28 PM
13. The vast majority of letters to the editors published in the Seattle Times and P I. These letters domonstrate that Seattleites are ignorant, irrational, and frequently stupid left wingnuts.

Don't forget the Seattle City Council's ressolution supporting the breaching of Columbia and Snake River dams, or its inability to decide on the wording of a ressolution showing support for our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Posted by: Paddy on January 27, 2006 01:28 PM
14. Anabaptist, eh? Right.

Posted by: Danny on January 27, 2006 01:36 PM
15. No, Danny. lucy is referring to the druid movement- lovers of nature, etc.

Posted by: swatter on January 27, 2006 01:38 PM
16. And the Reverend is something of a lot of things, including a google reference to Catch 22. Radical whack job just like out lucy.

Posted by: swatter on January 27, 2006 01:42 PM
17. Winnie/clay/anthony perkins,

Seattle is run completely and totally by today's Left, and has been for quite some time. Whatever problems Seattle may have are solely the responsibility of liberals, their allies and the citizens who elect them. WTO, Fat Tuesday murder, panhandling, homelessness, failing public schools, the aforementioned public works blunders, an arrogance and bloated sense of self-worth unmatched by any other major U.S. city - all credited to the people in charge.

Can't blame these ills on those eeevil Republicans this time, but old habits are hard to break, eh.

I used to enjoy trips to Seattle. I avoid it like the plague anymore.

Posted by: jimg on January 27, 2006 01:47 PM
18. swatter, I just happen to be familiar with the Anabaptist sect from long ago (comes from my Southern Baptist upbringing). Very cryptic reference. Very sophomoric, quite frankly.

Posted by: Danny on January 27, 2006 01:49 PM
19. What about the Times and its "Redskins" policy? And how can anyone neglect to mention the statue of a Leftwing mass murderer proudly ondisplay in Fremeont?

Posted by: Raoul Ortega on January 27, 2006 01:52 PM
20. All pendula swing. Having lived more than 35 years in the PNW I have seen this particular pendulum swing from moderate D to moderate R and now to wacko D. I fully expect that, should I survive another 35 years here, I will see another rightward swing. I hope it stops somewhere around moderate R, but further right is a possibility.

Perhaps some of you further right than I am think I am being optimistic, but I have more faith in human nature than that.

Posted by: Deadwood on January 27, 2006 01:56 PM
21. Stefan,

Please add "The Seattle Mandatory Recycling Program" that is attracting ridicule from people all over the nation. Hey, what's that extra piece of cardboard doing in your garbage? No pickup for you!

Posted by: Jeff B. on January 27, 2006 02:10 PM
22. Gotcha Danny. headless lucy on another post just before this called it anabaBtist rather than the current anabaPtist. Very different meanings.

Posted by: swatter on January 27, 2006 02:10 PM
23. Hello???

How about RON SIMS!!! Lives and works in Seattle. Seattle is a part of King County, etc etc

Posted by: m on January 27, 2006 02:11 PM
24. I am still embarrassed by the Mardi Gras "celebration" in Seattle a few years ago....

Posted by: Dan S. on January 27, 2006 02:22 PM
25. don't get so bogged down that you forget:

-Highest gas tax in the nation for highways that go nowhere
-Floating bridges that often float - but sometimes don't
-High taxes continue to be assessed for Kingdome and Monorail
-King County elections
-One of the smallest public park programs of any "major" metro area
-the local Demo party
-UW football falling from the top rung to beyond the basement
-99% of our Mexican food is crap

That last one may be the most important. (Smiles)

Posted by: SnoCo Voter on January 27, 2006 02:24 PM
26. ...then there's the Seattle chapter of NARAL holding an event with the really 'swell' message of "Screw Abstinence". (Did they really think we are giving our teenage daughters that same message? and do Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell REALLY want to affiliate with a group so off the deep end that they would think this was a good message for girls?)

Posted by: Michele on January 27, 2006 02:28 PM
27. How about one great thing about Seattle? It's not ruled by Christian whiners, myopic Republicans, and other assorted folks with completely closed minds.

Posted by: westello on January 27, 2006 03:00 PM
28. Westello - please re-read what you just wrote about closed minds.

Posted by: dan on January 27, 2006 03:02 PM
29. Westello,

Christians founded this country and is one reason we have such a great country. Those that don't like Chrisitanity, that is OK. You live your life by whatever you need to do, just know that your life leads to peril for our country.

Anyways...why I really wanted to post was in Stefan's list, why do you have to Discrimante against the poor horse lover. That isn't allowed anymore in this State. He was born that way you know.

Posted by: Dengle on January 27, 2006 03:04 PM
30. Westello comments that he/she/it is glad Seattle is not ruled by Christian whiners, myopic Republicans and others.
I guess Westello is happy with the current crop of Democratic fraudsters, half-a brain secularists and blindly-led radicals

Posted by: John425 on January 27, 2006 03:09 PM
31. let's not forget the highest number of sexual predators who live in king county.you can also watch heroin users shoot up.

Posted by: randell on January 27, 2006 03:10 PM
32. The Seattle Library
Apartments for Drunks
The Space Needle
The Name Space Needle
The Emerald City nickname

Posted by: Gary B on January 27, 2006 03:21 PM
33. HOV lanes
Excessive taxes
Volvo drivers
REI wearing urbanites that don't actually leave pavement
Neo-Socialist politics
Machinist's Union
Two stadiums we didn't want
Norm Maleng

Posted by: H Moul on January 27, 2006 03:28 PM
34. 1. Ron Sims' "Good Home Training"
2. Ron Sims' Nephew Illegally voting from Ron Sims' address while living in another state.
3. Calling it a good investment changing the "King" county logo to represent MLK for an unspecified cost.
4. Restricting Land use without proper compensation for those outside the city limits.
5. Hempfest
6. Local Politicians on the take from local Indian Tribes.
7. Kenny G.
8. People stil have Kerry, Dean, and Clinton Bumper stickers on cars (and they are holding up traffic).

Posted by: Marmstro on January 27, 2006 03:33 PM
35. Complete open-mindedness to the point that your brains fall out. That above all sums up what is embarassing about Seattle.

Please note that I think there is nothing wrong about being open minded... everyone should be. It's the only way one can grow intelectually as a person. But when your "open-minded" to the point that everything is okay, and to say otherwise and make a value judgement of any sort makes you evil, that is when you get problems like the City Council, the monorail, WTO riots, rampant homelesness, and people who aren't supposed to legally vote voting.

When you're that "open minded", your not really open minded, but just intellectually lazy and don't want to feel bad about anything. That is what's so embarrasing about this town.

Posted by: Mike H on January 27, 2006 03:44 PM
36. It's not so much what's wrong with Seattle, as it is that McGavick is running to represent Washington. Not Seattle, the whole state. The biggest trouble with Seattle is that it too easily forgets there's a distinction.

Posted by: Joel on January 27, 2006 03:49 PM
37. Paddy: Money is a zero sum game. There is only so much to go around. If you let 1% of the population have most of the money, that means that YOU will have less. Rich people and corporations will try to tell you differently, but 25 years of Reaganomics tells a different story.

Stop being a FEAR-FILLED CHUMP and grow up. If you want your share your gonna have to get it the same way they got yours: You will have to take it from them.

Republican budget cuts on social services are to pay for TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH. George W. Bush has said so! Where is your head,man! If the Republicans are serious about helping you, then where's your share. It ain't in your pocket, sucker.

Posted by: Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist on January 27, 2006 04:22 PM
38. Don't forget the future SAM priest/altarboy "sculpture"

Posted by: ajday on January 27, 2006 04:36 PM
39. Many good lists, but everyone forgot Sam Reed

Posted by: Marty on January 27, 2006 04:50 PM
40. Pastor MoonBat sez:
Paddy: Money is a zero sum game. There is only so much to go around. If you let 1% of the population have most of the money, that means that YOU will have less.
Posted by Rev. A.A. Tappman: Anababtist at January 27, 2006 04:22 PM

Your comment is precisely why so many of you LEFTIST PINHEADS cannot cope in the real world and must have government jobs to survive. Creating wealth increases the size of the pie you KLOWN.
Pastor MoonBat believes giving a poor person a fish is better than giving him/her a fishing pool. It keeps the poor as prisoners of the moonBats....sadly.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on January 27, 2006 04:53 PM
41. Well, Reverend, in case you missed it, everything you love was tried in the USSR. And boy did it do a number on those poor saps. Every aspect of the former USSR is in utter shambles, and probably so for several generations.

So,in light of your utter ignorance of truth, fact and history, maybe YOU should run for State Democratic Chair, or Seattle City Council, or Seattle School Board, or Sound Transit Board.

Join the misfts running those organizations- PLEASE; it will accelerate their demise.

Earth to Reverend......Remove head from rectum

Posted by: THS on January 27, 2006 05:00 PM
42. School system.
Safe harbor for illegal immigrants status.
Kingdome implosion.
Norm "the banker" Rice coverup.
Letting Griffey, Johnson, and A-rod go.

Posted by: Organization Man on January 27, 2006 06:21 PM
43. Can somebody tell me if I'm hallucinating or if I actually heard this on the radio today ... I was only half listening! Is the legislature looking at an assisted suicide bill? EWWWWWWWW!!!! Say it ain't so!

Posted by: Peggy U on January 27, 2006 06:26 PM
44. *** Self cleaning potty for the tune of 600K

(Crap, I have to wash the one in my house by myself after I'm done shooting up)

Posted by: Ted Bundy on January 27, 2006 07:27 PM
45. 1. In-state tuition for illegal aliens.
2. OVer 30% of the cost of roads spent on committee meetings and enviromental studies. Miss one day on the start date and you have to wait another year to get a new enviromental study conducted.
3. Lawyers taking road construction to court to job will not start on time so that you have to redo the study to do the construction.
4. Raise taxes for road emergencies and the Actual road work will start in one or two years give or take a decade. And the taxes collected spent on general fund items because they dont need to spend it on roads then when you need the money to start the road work you have to ask for more taxes. the old Bait and Switch Seattle and KC are experts at.
5. Water treatment plant built to support a billionaires golf course as its only client.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on January 27, 2006 07:30 PM
46. Rev. A. A. You point out a glaring example of what's wrong with most liberals. You know nothing about economics if you think money is a zero sum game. So much so, that any attempt to explain it to you here would be pointless.

The "rich" currently pay a larger percentage of the Federal income tax after the tax cuts then they did before. More people with low incomes pay less or nothing at all. Get some facts and quit spouting the slogans you heard at your last rally.

Here's a few to add:

- "Open minded" Seattle must tell adults that they can't be within 4 feet of a "dancer" in a private club. While during "Pride" festival, it's okay for same-sex fondeling down the middle of major Seattle streets.

- City with a big heroin problem has a needle for a landmark.

- Local t.v. newcasts are a JOKE!!

- Thinks it's a diverse/tolerant place while most Seattle libs don't actually have minorities as close friends. Maybe with the exception of an Asian friend or two, the "good" minority.

Enough for now...I'm sure I could go on forever with this one.

Posted by: Mark D on January 27, 2006 07:41 PM
47. There are no shortage of wierdness about Seattle - and the longer the list becomes, the more depressing these truths are, especially the ones that spill out to the suburbs..

One glimmer of hope though ; The Seahawks are clearly exempt from this list.

Posted by: KS on January 27, 2006 08:47 PM
48. Most embarrassing is easy: Queen Anne resident B-Daddy Jim. In Goldberg's provocative "100 PEOPLE WHO ARE SCREWING UP AMERICA," Jim fits comfortably between Al Franken (37) and Peter Singer (39). There are lots of cities that can't claim one of the HUNDRED as theirs. Seattle has Jim--for forty more years probably. Picture Robert Bird as ours.

Posted by: mrjimmy on January 27, 2006 08:49 PM
49. $150 car tabs after voters approved $30

Posted by: MB on January 27, 2006 09:32 PM
50. Marmstro,

You said "Ron Sims' Nephew Illegally voting from Ron Sims' address while living in another state." Good one
But also:A certian elected persons nephew getting off scott free after ripping off the port of seattle for $1200.

Posted by: Patrick on January 27, 2006 09:54 PM
51. mrjimmy -

At least B-Daddy Jim has never worn a sheet over his head, so he's at least marginally better than Robert KKK Byrd (I never thought I'd see the day I say something nice about Jim McDermitt).

Posted by: Mike H on January 27, 2006 10:04 PM
52. Come on, in the current context, simple-minded liberal bullshit is automatic, and Patrick is a proud liberal.
The best anyone could ever do for him is euthanasia.
What else is there to say?

Posted by: Amused by liberals on January 27, 2006 11:36 PM
53. No, Mike H., he didn't wear a sheet, but he damn near put on a burkha! I'd say he give's Byrd a fair run..

Posted by: Elmo on January 28, 2006 12:13 AM
54. 1) Tent City. Motto: "lets reward the lazy by moving them to neighborhoods most workers can't afford."

2) Maria Cantwell. Motto: "Stop the tapping of U.S. oil reserves. It's not about the caribou, it's about being able to use gas prices as a campaign issue."

3) The Washington transportation departments. Motto: "We're out to make your daily commute a living hell."

4) West Seattle Jim and Ron "Tax to the Max" Sims

5) Patty "Osama builds daycare centes and schools" Murry.

6) The whole "let's spend millions to develop a tourist trade even though we know they'll go back home and tell everyone stories about how the panhandlers spit on them" mindset of the Seattle city council and mayors office.

Posted by: Johnny WIlliams on January 28, 2006 05:26 AM
55. Having an open mind makes you intellectually lazy? The poster child for intellectually lazy is sitting in the White House.

Posted by: westello on January 28, 2006 07:38 AM
56. Having an open mind makes you intellectually lazy? The poster child for intellectually lazy is sitting in the White House.

Posted by westello at January 28, 2006 07:38 AM


Do you mean Bill .C. and his ever so famous saying. What "IS" really is.
westello you kill me dude. LOL

Posted by: ArmyMedic/Vet on January 28, 2006 08:20 AM
57. Having an open mind makes you intellectually lazy?

That's not what I said... stop being "intellectually lazy", read the whole thing, and stop twisting my words. I said simply being open minded (i.e. honestly listening to other viewpoints) is a good thing. Being so "open minded" that your brains fall out, that the idea that you're open minded to the point that everything is okay and making any sort of value judgement is somehow evil is intellectually lazy.

By the way, the current occupant of the White House earned an MBA at an Ivy League school with, I beleive, an A- average. That's not exactly "intellectually lazy".

Posted by: Mike H on January 28, 2006 09:39 AM
58. Someone needs to remind Westello (and all the other Kos kids and moron.org people) that calling the President stupid is part of the old democratic playbook that no longer works. (If it ever did.)

They tried it on Reagan and he got two terms. They tried it on W and he got two terms, too.

The definition of trying something repeatedly expecting a different result is what again?

Posted by: Johnny Williams on January 28, 2006 10:36 AM
59. Pardon me if these two have already been mentioned, but how about adding David Horsey and "Horse's Ass" Goldstein to the list?

Posted by: MES on January 28, 2006 11:18 AM
60. All your lists pretty well sum up problems with King County That ol Danny boy ujst does'nt get
apparently drinking too much water from the Demo Toilet lately!! Just one thing we need to remove Dean Logan from his election job & keep him as dog catcher!! I think that would be a wonderful way to repay his misdeeds!!

Posted by: Laurie on January 28, 2006 11:27 AM
61. -Jim McDermott
-Gay Sex Clubs (in the day and age of HIV)
-the Fremont Lenin Statue
-Joni Balter
-a Failing School District
-Agressive Beggars
-the Public Library (as Wino Day-Care)
-Parks without Children
-Parks with IV needles and liquor bottles
-Filthy Buses
-Filthy Bus Riders
-Harrasment on Buses from filthy and delusional Bus Riders
-Ron Sims
-the Blame America First Crowd
-the Folks Who Hate the Military while enjoying the freedoms our soldiers purhase with blood
-the Folks who Hate America while showing boundless admiration for Fidel Castro
-Outlawing Foie Gras
-the Recycling Police
-Crappy, dysfunctional Government
-the Folks who march next to the stripper float at the Pride Parade who would never be caught dead at a Memorial Day or Veterans Day Parade
-the 70 million dollar Wino Hotel (next to I-5 and Denny)
-the Moonbats in Khaffiyehs who celebrate the (take your pick) Hamas, PLO, PFLP, Black September or Islamic Jihad at "anti-war" demonstrations
-Filthy Streets
-Perenially Clogged Street Drains
-the "Peace" March around Green Lake

Posted by: Attila - formerly of Seattle on January 28, 2006 12:24 PM
62. Aww, c'mon guys. George Bush has an MBA from an Ivy League school because of his name and background. He would never have gotten in without them; never. He has had everything handed to him and when things didn't work out, somehow daddy or daddy's friends bailed hime out.

And, I didn't called him stupid. I called him intellectually lazy which is entirely different. He isn't interested in understanding or learning anything new. He has less interest in the world around him than the average child. He doesn't think; he believes and that is going to be his downfall. He may sail off into the sunset but oh, are the history books going to be unkind (to say the least).

Posted by: westello on January 29, 2006 10:40 AM
63. Wow Westello, that some pretty tortured logic you need to use there. How hard do you have to work to convince yourself that Bush is intellectually inferior when he's been beating the stuffing out of the left and the democratic party for 6 years now?

This is guy who time and again has stood up to the loud calls of his detractors and did what he believe to be right when it would be so much easier to do nothing. He has won all the important battles, from elections to reforms to supreme court nominations. You call him lazy?

Yes, the guy has other powerful family members in politics and he has money. Maybe he got into his ivy league school because of it, but that didn't get him the grades. (Frankly, how many people who get into Ivy leage schools don't come from rich well connected families?)

If you want ot dislike or disrespect someone because the had these kinds of advantages, what would your opinion be of people like Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Harry Reid and just about everyone else in the democratic leadership?

There's nothing intellectually lazy about GWB. He speaks like a Texan - and I mostly think he effects that accent because he knows it annoys the heck out of east coast liberals, - but don't confuse the down-home twang and southern demeaner with stupidity.

I've worked around southerners all my life, and they may have a drawl and seems a little slow, but they often give that impression just to catch people off guard. They'll run circles around you at the bargaining table and kick your tail at business if you give them half a chance.

Posted by: Johnny WIlliams on January 29, 2006 11:23 AM
64. How about taxing the crap out of us for alternative transportation, then putting up signs that say "Freeway Expansion Improves Traffic!"....

Posted by: cps on January 29, 2006 12:02 PM
65. WESTELLO critiques GW Bush's intellect?

Another good one there westello

Posted by: Amused by liberals on January 29, 2006 12:10 PM
66. Amused by liberals,

I am not a liberal. You have me confused with a different Patrick - possibly one from WSU.

The politician in my last post was RON SIMS. Someone we should be very, very embarrassed to have in any elected position when his family members get off scott free after committing CRIMES.

Posted by: Patrick on January 29, 2006 12:18 PM
67. Patrick,

I agree.
My apologies.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on January 29, 2006 03:29 PM
68. 1. WTO
2. Mardis Gras
4. Statue of Lenin
5. Racist Seattle City Council pigs
6. Norm Meling
7. Greg Nickels
8. David Goldstein
9. UW athletics
10 Seattle Central Community College
11. Seattle Police who shag their girlfriends on watch
12. Hempfest
13. Folklife (hempfest for families)
14. Experience Music Project

Posted by: ERNurse on January 29, 2006 09:47 PM
69. 9. UW athletics

Hey, cut them some slack... it's a "building year".

Besides, the men's basketball team is ranked #10 and the coach is a class act (along with Willingham). They're not that embarrassing.

Posted by: Mike H on January 30, 2006 12:10 AM
70. let's leave volvo drivers off the lists...i also have a fully restored '68 ford F100 that gets around 4 mpg. i just love to see the look on the liberals' faces when i get out of said volvo in a pair of custom made cowboy boots. a love of european autos and conservatism are not incompatible...

just fyi...

Posted by: k2 on January 30, 2006 12:40 AM
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