Sound Politics: It's in the P-I

December 31, 2005

It's in the P-I

Unnamed staffers at the Seattle Post-Intelligencer feel threatened by the fact that Sound Politics broke more news about the bogus 2004 governor's race than the P-I did: "Five to remember from 2005 in Seattle news ... And five to forget ..."

Stefan Sharkansky and David Goldstein

The right-wing Shark and left-wing Goldy have dominated the local political blogosphere, which during the governor's race controversy sounded like a schoolyard shouting match.

Well at least they're half right, which is about par for the P-I. This also reminds us how much "more credibility" that forgettable other guy really has with his heroes at the P-I. And speaking of credibility....

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at December 31, 2005 09:53 AM | Email This

Comments

1. Notice how they also said that I-912 was backed by big money? Last I checked, everyone one with deep pockets was against it. They also put the guy behind the monorail and Carolyn Edmonds- who was voted out of office- as people to remember.

And the P-I wants to know why they continue to loose readers?

Posted by: Mike H on December 31, 2005 10:15 AM

2. So the PI would rather just forget us over here at Sound Politics? They already largely ignore the real investigative reporting performed by Stefan and others who are members of the Sound Politics community.

The PI folks (and the Seattle Times staff as well) should feel threatened by a bunch of bloggers who care more about truth, justice and traditional American values than promoting the Left's local and statewide agendas.

I know where I go to get real news, and it isn't the local newspapers.

Happy New Year, everyone!

Posted by: Gary on December 31, 2005 11:01 AM

3. Goldy continually posts for whatever reactionary and personal value that he can engender. Like his other idols at the NYT, it's not about the veracity or the morality of what HA (he) posts, it's about what serves Goldy's narrow interests and his personal agenda and worldview. In short, reality is optional at HA.

For me, the main difference between Sound Politics and the Horses Ass, is that at Sound Politics, while there is bias, there is an obvious attempt at journalistic standards and objectivity. It's a group blog and there is a varied opinion. In short, more rational and more reporting. While at the Horses Ass, it's just one man's bias that serve his own amusement and own ends. Again, reality is optional at HA.

What the P-I does not mention in the lumping of both The Shark and Goldy together as something they want to forget is that their reasons for wanting to forget these two bloggers are quite different. They want to forget Sound Politics because it is an afront to their narrow, liberal world view and a threat to the entenched Democrat stronghold of King County. Whereas they want to forget Horses Ass because it (he) represents direct competition and through its (his) lax standards of decorum, a potential discrediting of the left world view.

One thing that I agree with both Shark and Goldy on is that it's incredibly naive and wishful thinking on the part of the P-I that either SP or HA is going to be forgotten.

Posted by: Jeff B. on December 31, 2005 11:06 AM

4. maybe the PI would sell more papers if they had reporters as persistent as Stefan, when it comes to actually finding out what went wrong in the election

Posted by: Michele on December 31, 2005 11:36 AM

5. Newspaper men are not the bird-doggers of truth that they used to be...and that's because the truth doesn't fall in line with their left-wing ideologies. But, thank God for Stefan and his crew..they are the real heros of today's truth in reporting.

Posted by: Susu on December 31, 2005 11:48 AM

6. I thought KLOWNstein was the fair-haired Komrade of the P-I??? What happened Goldy?

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on December 31, 2005 11:51 AM

7. Of course, they recommend that we remember Judge Bridges. Why?
"The Chelan County Superior Court judge oversaw the contentious GOP challenge to the election of Gov. Christine Gregoire. Bridges upheld Gregoire's victory, rejecting all Republican challenges. Gregoire's final victory margin over Dino Rossi was 133 votes out of 2.8 million cast -- the closest governor's race in the nation's history. Bridges said the chief principle governing elections court cases is judicial restraint: "Unless an election is clearly invalid, when the people have spoken, their verdict should not be disturbed by the courts." "

Hmm...didn't Bridges also say some other things, like (and I paraphrase) that the election was an unholy mess and that somebody else (but not him) needed to straighten it out? I guess the selective memory of the P.I. is a bit more selective than I would have thought.

Posted by: psuedotsuga on December 31, 2005 01:32 PM

8. Stefan Sharkansky, Nice post;we will still work on the Roger Wabbit, and help him clean up his language, sgmmac did a great job on her communacation skills.

The provisional ballot envelopes are an absolute disaster. There were two boxes of all kinds of ballots that weren’t counted at all and there were many ballots still in envelopes and I did see lots of ballots for Gregoire in those uncounted ballots. They counted provisionals for many unregistered voters, it was marked clearly on the envelopes that the voter wasn’t registered.

Comment by sgmmac— 11/26/05 @ 3:55 pm

sgmmac most of the folks on this website are ignoreing what you are saying, because they really don’t want to hear the truth nor deal with reality. Please don’t stop talking about the subject matter even though they show some bad matters. Some of the older folks forgot to take their med’s, and the other just join in from moveon.org. The only way for the problem to be fixed is to bring in the FED’s. This town has pick up some bad habits from Chicago and will be hard to break without some outside help. Keep the sectences short, use third grade language, misspell words, and don’t use words the express their political color. The filters are up on anything they dissagree with.

Comment by klake— 11/26/05 @ 5:00 pm
http://www.horsesass.org/my-comments-popup.php?p=1189&c=1#comment-115787

Posted by: klake on December 31, 2005 06:38 PM

9. Klake,

Can you function without drugs?
Never mind . . . don't bother trying to spell-out an answer.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on December 31, 2005 10:31 PM

10. Electronic voting machines have the advantages -- and disadvantages -- of mechanical voting machines. Both can, in principle, be gimicked by technically savvy people. And that has happened with mechanical voting machines, though rarely.

And there is absolutely no doubt that mechanical voting machines reduced vote fraud. I would expect electronic voting machines to do the same, where they replace paper ballots, punch cards, or the current versions of optical ballots.

(That said, I think we can do better than the current machines, as I have discussed here in the past.)

Posted by: Jim Miller on January 1, 2006 06:15 AM