The BIAW reported some suspected double voters to the Thurston County Sheriff's Office. The incident report is here. The good news is that one of the suspected double voters has been exonerated. The bad news is:
After comparing the signatures, it was obvious that the Thurston County ballot was a forged signature by an unknown person and was mailed into the elections department for processing. As of this time, we have no suspect information or leads into the case.I'm shocked to learn that forgeries manage to slip through the Maginot Line of mail ballot signature verification. Sam Reed, call your office. Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at December 16, 2005 12:14 PM | Email This
There just has to be one Democrat that wants to fix the election process. I mean, just one. Come on, it can't be that hard to find one, can it?
Posted by: swatter on December 16, 2005 01:09 PMMy feeling is there are THOUSANDS of forged ballots statewide. Unfortunately, they are very difficult to ferret out. Wouldn't it be interesting if the SOS sent contacted every single voter credited for voting to confirm that they actually voted? As well as contact every Non-credit registered voter and confirmed that they DID NOT vote? My guess is there are some problems on both sides of this fence. What would preclude a Post Office LEFTIST activist from not delivering ballots from Republican precindts??? How many registered voters have actually checked to see if there ballot was actually credited....or not credited???? And if KingCo doesn't reconcile votes and voters precisely, how would you ever really know????
Clearly stricter controls are required.....and no matter how strict, you will still have some room for FRAUD. However, simply relying on the Post Office and some non-ID signature verification process is not ggod enough. They need some type of confirmation process.....even if it is just a statewide random sample.
Too bad that after all this effort, it still doesn't amount to a hill of beans. You folks and the BIAW can't quite seem to get everything perfect in your endeavors, but expect as much out of a public bureau doing a far larger task.
I wonder if you'll ever get your heads out of your collective rump and realize there are far more important political issues in our time than this.
I'm sure that Goldy and all of the libs are not at all biased in their ambivalence towards mail ballots and the the lower standards for election integrity and security they produce. Afterall, the lower standards favor the current majority.
But like all things Dem, we won't hear anything about mail ballots until that day in the future when the Dems are no longer the majority. Then there will be front page stories in the Seattle PI and Times every day, and non stop TV coverage, screaming and gnashing, protests, vandalism, etc. all warning us about the horrors of mail ballots.
Of course I am making a big assumtion here that the Times and PI will still be in business at that future date.
Posted by: Jeff B. on December 16, 2005 04:18 PMSeems he has his head too far up our 'our collective rump' to make an understandable reply!
Tim
Posted by: timman on December 16, 2005 05:13 PMSpeaking of paranoid...
Jeff B, mail ballots are supported by a solid majority of voters in most places, red and blue. As a matter of fact, I think the red states in WA are the ones moving first to all-mail balloting.
Maybe for once you are right - there are bigger fish to fry....
How do you like Justice Roberts and soon-to-be-Justice Alito?
Did you see those MILLIONS of voters in Iraq? Wow - it's a wonderful thing to see a Democracy being born. And to see the Democratic party die.
Posted by: Larry on December 16, 2005 06:12 PMWhy haven't you weighed in on this blog about the proof that Diebold machines are rigged in favor of Republicans? It's out there for any honest citizen to find--- or are you afraid of the strictures inherent in the satirically named, Patriot Act?
Posted by: Winston Smith on December 16, 2005 07:01 PMThe Patriot Act was for spying on Bush's political enemies, like any budding fascist dictator would want to do.
Posted by: Winston Smith on December 16, 2005 08:00 PMThat guy that runs HA named Goldy actually had one of the best suggestions that I have seen lately, so I know this state won't do it. But, his suggestion is to allow voters to prepare ballots online and print them off and mail them in. Just think, that's over 100,000 ballots in this state that wouldn't get manipulated by partisians..........
Amazing that none of his readers seemed to post any opinion on it, they were real slow to jump on the bandwagon.
Posted by: sgmmac on December 16, 2005 08:04 PMNasty little punk, aren't you? That sounds like projection.
Posted by: South County on December 16, 2005 08:25 PMWhat laws do you suggest we have that would reduce the risk of terrorist attacks like we have seen around the world?
With the failure to renew the Patriot Act, our basic laws are now back to what they were before 9/11. How does that make us any safer?
As for the executive branch using its power against its enemies - look into the Barrett report. Aparently, someone high up used the IRS to harass their enemies.
As for Diebold, grab up all of that evidence and get it to the DA or sheriff. Start an investigation. Go for it. If your'e successful, then that is one less area of voting fraud that ALL of us will have to worry about.
Posted by: SouthernRoots on December 16, 2005 08:39 PMONE freaking vote was found to be fraudulent!
explains all the panic. glad to see that cynical translates ONE bad vote into thousands!
you people are absolutely THE MOST paranoid bunch i've ever come across!
Irony of ironies though....I recall reading when this case was disclosed in the Olympian, (umm...about 6 months back..thanks for the RECENT news blogboy) that this ONE bad vote was indeed cast for Dino Rossi. Somehow, that factoid missed the radar of good ol' Stefan.
Nice try. The Sheriff's Office has no idea who cast the ballot, so how would they know who it was voted for? Come back when you can show us the article from The Olympian
Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on December 16, 2005 10:13 PMI love it when Stefan reports something that drives the liberal trolls insane! I can just hear the stomping of their little troll feet as they rush into this blog to post their blather....
What useful-idiot "tools" they are! The more post's they create in a specific topic - the easier it is to determine that topic's importance!
They are annoying and stupid..but..in an odd way..the trolls can be useful....(idiots)
As Democrats and "journalists" in the mass media repeatedly pointed out, the events leading up to today's historic election in Iraq are the sole responsiblity of President George W. Bush. To him went the blame, so to him must go the credit.
The liberals derided President Bush at the onset of the war. They excoriated him as the insurgency wore on, they called him incompetent when the Sunnis boycotted the last election. And they labeled "Bush's War" unwinnable, a failure, a quagmire, and a disaster in the days and even hours before this election.
Now that the tide seems to be turning in Iraq, let not one Democrat save Joe Lieberman claim credit for supporting this endeavour - especially the likes of John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, Harry Reid or "hawk" Joe Murtha.
The liberal "leadership" has taken its stand against democracy in Iraq. The liberal "leadership" falsely prophesied that our troops would fail in the mission Our President gave them. The liberal "leadership" voted againt the 11 million law abiding Iraqis who today took part in creating a government of, by and for the Iraqi people. The liberal "leadership" sought to abandon 24 million innocent Iraqis to the tender mercies of suicide bombers, toturers and beheaders. The liberal "leadership" jettisoned its own oft-stated agenda of advancing democracy, supporting human rights, promoting women's rights, and protecting children's rights, all in the name of venting its irrational, unmitigated hatred of President Bush and the Republicans who support him.
From this day forward, let the Democrats reap the ugliness they have sown. And let President Bush and our brave military forces stand honored and appreciated for their unwavering courage and fortitude in seeing us through to this historic moment.
Much remains to be done. Violence will likely continue. But it is President Bush's leadership that has gotten us this far, and it is under his leadership that democracy will flourish in lands where none existed before. The Democrats had absolutely nothing to do with it. Let no one forget that!
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Haven't heard it said better than that.
Posted by: katomar on December 16, 2005 11:57 PM1) Contrast the pictures of millions of Iraqiis standing in line to vote -- some quite elderly and some travelling long distances, all -- SHOWING PICTURE ID -- and then getting the purple inked finger -- horrors upon horrors -- just think of all the democraps that wouldn't be in office in this country if elections here were run that way.
2) Here we just have more and more whiners -- mail in voting -- vote on internet -- "oh - we're/they're being disenfranchised" -- CRAP -- why don't we just let "them = "liberal leadership"" vote for US??? --
3) The most telling statement in the post is the first sentence of the third paragraph of the article -- "The liberal "leadership" has taken its stand against democracy in Iraq." Just like they have here -- especially in King County --
Where the 'ell are the Feds -- oh yeh -- tied up with the liberal ecoterrorist freaks!! -- hopefully the Feds will build enough precedent in the current investigations of democrap voting fraud elsewhere in the country to help hose out this slime pit --
Posted by: Bill on December 17, 2005 05:53 AMI live in Thurston county and I read the Olympian every day. I'm not perfect, I could have missed an article on voting, doubtful, but I could have. I am still waiting for a prosecution of our 'felon' voter who is a lawyer and knew better. It's been a year and still we wait......
Posted by: sgmmac on December 17, 2005 06:41 AMWhat evidence do you have that supports your assertion that "mail ballots are supported by a solid majority of voters"? I've lived in Whatcom County all my life. In the last election we all voted by mail, but we weren't given any choice about it. The voters in this county were not asked whether or not they supported vote by mail. It was NOT put to a vote for voters to show their support - or LACK thereof.
Posted by: Kathy on December 17, 2005 09:59 AMThat being the case, what purpose do your posts here serve?
Posted by: ewaggin on December 17, 2005 11:52 AMI know there are rare cases where one cannot do that, because of travel, foreign service, poor health, etc. And for those legitimate, legal voters who fall into these cracks, allowances should be made. But my guess is that the very large majority of voters do not come under these exceptions. So what is it, just a matter of "convenience" (really laziness), or ignorance, or stupidity, or what?
Posted by: Interested Observer on December 18, 2005 12:49 PM