December 15, 2005
Kudos To Senator Cantwell

For supporting the liberation of Iraq and for supporting today's election in Iraq.

"People obviously are excited about (the) election and the fact it is happening," Cantwell said in a telephone interview Wednesday with The Associated Press after she arrived in Baghdad with three other U.S. senators.

"It's a very historic moment," Cantwell said.  "Let's hope that it's a down payment on some challenging but (ultimately) some more successful days of an Iraqi government stepping out front."
. . .
Lawmakers have been wearing full flak jackets and helmets since their arrival and expected to wear them throughout the three-day visit, she said.  Still, Cantwell said she was thrilled at the opportunity to witness history.

"We think of elections in the U.S. and we're used to them," she said.  But in Iraq, people have been killed simply putting up posters encouraging others to vote.

"I am grateful to be here. It's an incredible thing to witness," she said.

Would that more Washington state Democrats had the same enthusiasm for the spread of democracy to a Middle East country — even if President Bush supports it.

Cross posted at Jim Miller on Politics.

(Don't worry.  Although I think Cantwell is (mostly) right on this issue, I differ with her on enough other issues so that I will almost certainly vote for her Republican opponent next year.   Right now it appears that her opponent will be Mike McGavick, who would be preferable to Cantwell for many reasons.  I think it fair to say that he would not, for example, have co-sponsored the "Motor Voter" Act, or as I like to call it, the "Motor Cheater" Act.

By the way, I plan to do a series of posts on Cantwell's record next year.  If you have any information on her political or business careers, feel free to send it to me.  I am especially interested in stories about her work for Jerry Springer (yes, that Jerry Springer) and her work for the ethically challenged California senator, Alan Cranston.)

Posted by Jim Miller at December 15, 2005 01:05 PM | Email This
1. Taking her cue from Lieberman, Cantwell realizes the extreme-left anti-victory rhetoric has jumped the Shark. (Pun intended) I have a premonition that now these elections have come off so well, there are going to be more such defections soon.

Posted by: starboardhelm on December 15, 2005 01:29 PM
2. I was surprised at her "political" comments, too.

She is more hawk than her compadre, Murray.

And Mr. Miller, I never saw her jump out against the whack jobs in her party the past few months. I don't give her a free pass.

And the comments you quoted does not have any "Bush was right" in them. She said just enough to barely separate her from her fellow Democrats, but she is still a far cry from Lieberman's statements.

Posted by: swatter on December 15, 2005 01:34 PM
3. I will reserve my judgement until I hear what she does when she returns. I think she if just going over there to gain some credibility for her anti-war stance. She'll be lying with the rest of the Democrat scum any day now.

Posted by: pbj on December 15, 2005 01:40 PM
4. swatter - She isn't really more of a hawk than Murray, she's just up for re-election and knows that the majority of folks don't believe that the Dems have any real understanding of security and why the war is important. I don't believe that she actually believes what she is saying - she's just saying it to placate the less extreme voters in an attempt to win re-election. We can only hope that she is unsuccessful.

Posted by: Jay on December 15, 2005 01:42 PM
5. Give credit where credit is due... even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Too bad so many other liberals are blinded by their hatred of Bush to be intelectualy honest enough to say something positive about how things are going in Iraq.

That said, I'm still not voting for her.

Posted by: Mike H on December 15, 2005 01:52 PM
6. she did the right thing. said it anyway, and for that i give her credit.
too bad she is more than happy to support the [christian hating] dishonest democratic party in washington state.
as she points out...""We think of elections in the U.S. and we're used to them," she said. But in Iraq, people have been killed simply putting up posters encouraging others to vote."
too bad the same CAN be said of washington state. where you get your car keyed or tires slashed just because you have a GOP sticker on it.they just haven't gotten around to killing anyone yet. just going after their religion and yard signs.
"washington state....where your rights get nibbled away by [guppy] yuppies........"
yup...she should be really really proud.......

Posted by: christmasghost on December 15, 2005 01:59 PM
7. Sometimes truth and reality are so large apparent and world changing even the most paritsan has to recognized it.

Those LLL who don't look demented on a day like today.

A toast to purple fingers, freedom and liberty are gaining ground in the middle east.

Posted by: JCM on December 15, 2005 02:00 PM
8. good for Cantwell But knowing SOME, (FREAKING SAID SOME) conservatives she will be accused of supporting Nation Building next time she runs.
which we all know is bad. :0)
....oh...if you did not get it...i SAID "SOME"

Posted by: OnceATCity on December 15, 2005 02:02 PM
9. good for Cantwell But knowing SOME, (FREAKING SAID SOME) conservatives she will be accused of supporting Nation Building next time she runs.
which we all know is bad. :0)
....oh...if you did not get it...i SAID "SOME"

Posted by: OnceATCity on December 15, 2005 02:03 PM
10. good for Cantwell But knowing SOME, (FREAKING SAID SOME) conservatives she will be accused of supporting Nation Building next time she runs.
which we all know is bad. :0)
....oh...if you did not get it...i SAID "SOME"

Posted by: OnceATCity on December 15, 2005 02:03 PM
11. good for Cantwell But knowing SOME, (FREAKING SAID SOME) conservatives she will be accused of supporting Nation Building next time she runs.
which we all know is bad. :0)
....oh...if you did not get it...i SAID "SOME"

Posted by: OnceATCity on December 15, 2005 02:03 PM
12. Keep your fingers crossed for good luck. If Iraq, with the help of the US are successful, we are witnessing something as great as the falling of the Berlin Wall, the end of WWII and our landing on the moon.

Posted by: joer on December 15, 2005 02:14 PM
13. Well said, joer.

Posted by: starboardhelm on December 15, 2005 02:59 PM
14. Well not even the terrorist and their Liberal Media allies could stop the Iraqi election. Of course they will be spinning it negatively.

Posted by: pbj on December 15, 2005 03:14 PM
15. Jim,

I think you're going out on a limb here with Cantwell, especially by giving her "kudos". P.S. the sentence after the quotes doesn't make sense.

I've been blogging about Cantwell's PR Machine at Respectfully Republican, and of course there was the Tech Central Station article...

Posted by: Patrick E. bell on December 15, 2005 03:38 PM
16. Harry Reid is trying to give Maria more visible jobs so that she is re-elected. Period. The Democratic leadership knows that she was/is vulnerable and it does appear to be working well.

Posted by: sgmmac on December 15, 2005 03:49 PM
17. Kudos? What is there to give Kudos for? This is a tax-payer funded photo-op where nothing of substance is uttered. Where are the media and the liberal hack that howl on this sort of things?

Posted by: C. Oh on December 15, 2005 03:56 PM
18. Cantwell is less extreme and is more of a genuinely likeable person than her counterpart when you talk to her face to face. So I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that she actually wants democracy to work in Iraq.
With that said, even appearing to be anywhere close to moderate will alienate great swaths of the more extremist members of the Democrat party.
It will be interesting to see how kook fringe voters on the Democrat side will not vote for Cantwell and how many kook fringe voters on the Republican side will refuse to vote for McGavick in November simply for the crime of trying to attract moderate voters.

Posted by: Reporterward on December 15, 2005 03:57 PM
19. Totally off track, but can the power that be on this site change the code such that one Submit button press would disable the Submit button before it actually attempts to post the comment? That will certainly prevent all these impatient commenters from posting duplicate comments.

Just a suggestion.

Posted by: C. Oh on December 15, 2005 03:59 PM
20. If Senator C can surface for brief moments of lucidity, breathing the pure air of reason, will sanity be possible for the Seattle Times? Earlier this week, almost every column inch of Times letters, almost every letter they chose to publish, was of lamentation for an innocent victim, a sweet child of comvenient redemption: Tookie the Killer Crip.

Last fall the Times expended every column inch of its letters on an irredeemable villain, Pat Robertson, whom the Times & its evaporating pool of readers would probably kill if they could.

Question: How many columns and inches will the better of our evil-twin "news"papers give to the minor miracle we saw today, the third Iraqi election this year that was cleaner than any election conducted in years by the King County Culture of Electoral Corruption? And how many letters favorable to the march of freedom in Iraq will the Times regard as fit to print?

(Just don't buy the damn thing to find out. Get it free and dirty out of the gutter.)

Posted by: sandalista on December 15, 2005 04:24 PM
21. Ok, so what precisely does Cantwell's taxpayer-paid trip to Iraq have to do with either her job in the US government or in Iraq? If she were Republican, I'd ask the same thing.
So she is observing? Why? Couldn't they get anybody else to do it?
Her photo-op, look-at-my-caring experience seems to be aimed at garnering touchy-feely votes (from either side) rather than getting a good return from taxpayer investment in her salary.

Posted by: pseudotsuga on December 15, 2005 04:45 PM
22. Heh I say any day the democrats want to spend with the troops in Iraq the better we are. Maybe they will then begin to understand what these brave troops are fighting for, and the great accomplishments they have made. Especially today. My hat is off to all of the troops over in Iraq! Great Job Folks! We are proud as hell of you!

Posted by: GS on December 15, 2005 05:46 PM
23. Pardon me for being cynical - but she IS running for office next year. I suspect she's merely trying to appeal to a broader audience.

Posted by: Melinda on December 15, 2005 09:36 PM
24. While I appreciate SEN Cantwell's visit here in Iraq, I don't see her aligning herself with SEN Lieberman anytime soon. That would do far more to endear herself to us. While I am certainly no fan of hers, I have to compliment her on her support of the WA state tax exemption ( Now if only she would support AMT repeal and extension of the dividend and capital gains tax rates, then I might think she's sincere in her statment:
"Washingtonians deserve tax fairness."
By the way, do you think SEN Cantwell reads Sound Politics? Maybe that would explain why I wasn't invited to meet with her during visit.

pseudotsuga: A visit by a soldier's congressperson is a morale booster for the troops, even if the bang for buck is limited. So don't begrudge the troops the opportunity. Maybe she'll even be swayed to support our mission.

Posted by: Van on December 15, 2005 10:05 PM
25. Heh Van, We appreciate what you folks are doing over there!

Posted by: GS on December 15, 2005 10:31 PM
26. First, and most important: Van, thank you for what you are doing there in Iraq. (And thanks for your perspective and for visiting Sound Politics.)

Second, several commenters thought this was a political move on Cantwell's part. On some level, that is, of course, true. She is a poltician; she is running for re-eelection -- at least as far as I can tell.

But, it is not clear -- at least to me -- that she does not also genuinely support democracy for the Iraqis. Unlike Senator Murray, she voted for the war resolution. And she has had much less to say in criticism of the liberation than most leading Democrats in Washington.

Her stance has certainly hurt her with the leftists who dominate MoveOn and similar groups who are so important in fund raising for the Democrats. Whether it will help her with moderates and independents is not clear to me, at least not without seeing much more poll data on the subject.

In any case, I am old enough so that I am happy to see politicians (or anyone else) do the the right thing, even if their motives are mixed, as I think Cantwell's are in this case.

Posted by: Jim Miller on December 16, 2005 06:22 AM
27. I would love to peek through her palm pilot where I'm sure there's notes to Ron Sims that start something like this: Amazing security with ballots. Don't let this happen in KCE.

Posted by: PC on December 16, 2005 07:23 AM
28. Jim Miller, her statement was pretty vanilla. I don't see it as harming her moveon base.

All I read into her statement was "the Iraqis were excited". That statement, while true, is fence sitting, IMO.

Posted by: swatter on December 16, 2005 07:48 AM
29. Most liberals I know want to start with building democracy in Florida and Ohio before attempting to start one in Iraq. A glance at today's headlines will tell you where your democratic rights are under the Bush administration: Gone is where! As the wag recently said:

Ring!!! Ring!!!

"Hello, Iraq? This is George! I'd like a large DEMOCRACY to go, supersized, and with x-tra cheese! Heh, heh!!!!!"

Posted by: Winston Smith on December 16, 2005 08:20 AM
30. Starboardhelm: Why don't you listen to your own Rep. politicians, like ,Chuck Hagel? Your supposed point is so easily shot down it's ridiculous.

Posted by: Winston Smith on December 16, 2005 08:22 AM
31. Remember the reason Bush declared war? WMD's. Imminent danger. That kind of stuff. Doublethink Republicans. You know you're lying , yet you fervently believe the current lie. Only sexual repression can give you that kind of burning fervency.

Posted by: Winston Smith on December 16, 2005 08:27 AM
32. Winston - remember there were four reasons to go into Iraq, one of which was WMD. Why don't you listen to your own D politicians, like Joe Lieberman? Someone who has actually been there unlike Kerry, Kennedy, Polosey, Dean........

Posted by: fred on December 16, 2005 08:57 AM
33. ... and, Bush never said it there was imminent danger. That was Daschle who said that.

Posted by: fred on December 16, 2005 08:58 AM
34. Winston,

What a shame that you sully the name.
Some day democrats like you may discover the long
ago invention of the truck, the ease with which the truth can be discovered,
and the reality that facts are still facts no matter how much you avoid them.

Posted by: Amused by liberal droolers on December 16, 2005 09:08 AM
35. Bush had 80-85% of the American support to go into Iraq before (yes before) Powell went to the UN with that WMD claim that wasn't needed.

Remember Abu Nidal? He had the 'dead bodies' but was assassinated (er, committed suicide per the Dems) just before Bush went in.

The biggest problem was Bush waited till after the midterms before going in. It gave time for Saddam to hide and shred most of the documents. And speaking of documents, remember the vans of trucks the Russkies drove out of Bagdad the day before the Americans entered the City? Winston, I don't think so.

Posted by: swatter on December 16, 2005 09:21 AM
36. There was ONE reason we went into Iraq: WMD's. As each successive reason proved to be a lie a new one was added. Funny how dictatorships with OIL under them are the ones most in need of DEMOCRACY,supersized and with x-tra cheese. I think that's funny( meaning, "suspicious"), don't you?

Posted by: Winston Smith on December 16, 2005 09:26 AM
37. Just imagine for a moment the magnitude of what has happened in Iraq. It's one of the great accomplishments in our time. 80% voter turnout...10 million voters. WALKING to the polls because cars were banned....risking their LIVES to vote. It's awesome. It came at a huge price for sure. Those who died in pursuit of this day did not die in vain. I, for one, will never, ever forget the sacrifice they made...nor will my wife, children and grandchildren.
Also, the Iraqi's are such brave and determined people. Who among us is foolish enough to believe that the majority of Iraqi's do not appreciate our sacrifice???
Obviously Sen. Cantwell could "see the train a comin'", it was "rollin' round the bend" and Cantwell not only jumped off the tracks, she jumped ON the train!
Predictably, the LEFTIST PINHEADED CLOWNS of Seattle and their ilk are standing on the railroad track spewing hate and demanding the train STOP NOW!! The train is going 50 MPH and is 100 years away you boneheads! Save your sorry a$$es and jump off the tracks NOW! Fortunately, many of them will defiantly remain on the tracks. Pancakes anyone?

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on December 16, 2005 09:28 AM
38. Winstin,

Wowee, WMD’s, WMD’s, WMD’s, who cares? Believe whatever you like, it is of no consequence.
You are being rolled over and kicked to the curb and disregarded just like your party.
Tell a Ranger or Marine that has been in Iraq how little you respect the facts or their mission and see what happens twirp.

Posted by: Amused by liberal droolers on December 16, 2005 09:34 AM
39. The next thing you know, she might come out and say the US constitution is a good thing.

I like leaders that lead, not take credit or lay blame for the actions of others (ie BUSH bears the cross of Iraq, and Cantwell will try to take credit for anything good that happens).

I guess the square dance on Enron's grave is over with? Maria- guess what, they screwed us on YOUR WATCH!!!

Posted by: Andy on December 16, 2005 10:17 AM
40. Mr.Cynical: Just read the Patriot Act and reflect on what's happened to your democratic rights under this current administration. Take the log out of your own eye before attempting to take the mote out of another's.

A well known historical figure advised that activity.

Happy Holidays!!( no offense intended)!!

Posted by: Winston Smith on December 16, 2005 10:21 AM
41. Winston,
I understand she may be anathema to you, Michelle Malkin has some explanation of the entire story of the NYT article you refer to. If you're interested in becoming a little more informed about your talking points, you may want to have a peek.
Not to say she's 100% right, but then, neither are you.

Posted by: dan on December 16, 2005 10:31 AM
42. Winstin,

Our “democratic rights” under the Patriot Act? What democratic rights are those?
The Federal government still allows you to be a degenerate moron like Ted Kennedy, and Harry Reed.

Posted by: Amused by liberal droolers on December 16, 2005 10:34 AM
43. Winston,

By the way,

Merry Christmas!! (no offense intended)!!

Posted by: dan on December 16, 2005 10:58 AM
44. Well, I for one am tired of all the tip-toeing around this. Winston...Merry Christmas. I hope Santa brings you a couple of clues. You're desperately in need of at least one. (And I'm counting on you're being offended)

Posted by: Danny on December 16, 2005 01:37 PM
45. ...too bad she doesn't care enough about the safety of americans, as she says 'no' to the patriot act. i wish these WA senators would realize that terrorism is a REAL threat to us as americans, and that we need to nab these people who want to blow us up.

Posted by: Michele on December 16, 2005 01:58 PM
46. Winston,

And World War II in Europe was commenced for one reason only: To defend Poland from totalitarian domination. I guess you would say that war was a failure. Mission NOT accomplished! But FDR spun it into being about the unconditional surrender of Germany, and getting rid of the Nazis.

Posted by: Legast on December 16, 2005 02:33 PM
47. Cantwell is first and foremost a politician on the order of Hilary Clinton. Her trip to Iraq is nothing more than a photo op for her re-election campaign. She is trying to move toward the middle to appeal to more voters; nothing else.

I doubt that she really cares whether the Iraqis have a fair or democratic election. Her trip is nothing but face time with the TV cameras and the press, so she can look "senatorial" on camera. She's devious & disingenuos & I would not trust her as far as I could throw her, when it comes to any thing she says for publication. Someone really ought to investigate how she financed her first senatorial race; it has a distinct odor.

Posted by: Clean House on December 16, 2005 09:41 PM
48. Haven't read through all the posts -- so apologize if following comments have already been uttered ---

1) Cantwell was elected by the King County democrap fraud machine -- no way would she have beaten Slade with a clean election -- Iraqi style -- you know - in-person voting with picture ID, real paper ballots - marked clearly (not widdle bitty bubbles half the nitwit democrap voters aren't intelligent or talented enough to fill in properly) and purple fingers. What a G-D lying hypocrit.

2) She is just starting her re-election BS -- next 10 months we will get stuffed with crap from the WAWA democraps and their MSM propaganda machine -- puffing her up as the second coming

Posted by: Bill on December 17, 2005 06:20 AM
49. Hey Winston, Merry Christmas!
Iraq and GW 3-liberal Bush haters 0

Anyone notice that Syria pulled out of Lebanon?
Libya abandoned it's pursuit of WMDs?
Women have voted in Arab countries for the first time in HISTORY?
Is it because of the United Nations?
Maybe it was the oil for food program that the French/German/Russian/Kofi and son starved the Iraqi children with?

Nope. It was those dirty oil hungry neo-cons that our president was duped by.

Bull crap! It was a man with a vision and leadership. It was George Bush. Swish....nothing but net.

Posted by: Shmoe on December 17, 2005 08:38 AM
50. Schmoe,

All true . . . and not said often enough.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on December 18, 2005 01:43 PM
51. I know this is just a coincidence, but Sen Cantwell is up for reelection this year, isn't she? You don't think her attempts to not sound like Howard Dean have anything to do with the one year in six transformations Democratic senators have raised to an art form?

Posted by: Bill on December 19, 2005 05:32 AM
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