October 29, 2005
That Same Sauce Sinks Seattle

Remember that old Saturday Night Live skit with John Belushi? (It actually portrayed the Billy Goat tavern in Chicago, on Lower Wacker Drive, where all the Tribune and Sun-Times newsies gathered). Guy asks for a hamburger and Coke; surly grill chef says, emphatically, "chee-borger, Pepsi." No matter what anyone asks for, he tells them "chee-borger, Pepsi." That's it. No other choices.

Sound a bit familiar? It should. In a Seattle Post-Intelligencer Sunday op-ed, Chi-Doo "Skip" Li says Seattle politics is like a restaurant with a wide menu where eveything is drenched in the same sauce. Liberal Democratic seasoning of every issue in Seattle has numbed the palates of too many city dwellers for local politics, says Li. His solution?

Here's my advice to a city populated overwhelmingly by Democrats: Find some Republicans -- be patient, sightings are rare -- and encourage them to run for our terribly misnamed "nonpartisan" city offices and promise them you'll do the unthinkable and vote for them....The complete absence of Republicans of any stripe in Seattle politics means that we are cheating ourselves out of candidates and ideas to compete in the debate over vision and policy for the city.

Contrast the present with the '60s and '70s, when Phyllis Lamphere, Tim Hill, Bruce Chapman, John Miller and Paul Kraabel, all bright, reform-minded Republicans on the council, led the way on campaign finance reform, environmental stewardship, neighborhood revitalization and a host of other important issues. Just as muscles atrophy from chronic non-use, a one-party political system can lose its vitality rapidly from complacency and arrogance.

With the tough problems facing this great city, we can't afford the kind of narrow-minded mentality that equates Republicans with scary ogres who drink the blood of children....For our common good, let's hope a few brave and highly qualified Republicans throw their hats into the council ring in 2006, and maybe even the mayoral race for 2008.*

I'll admit to being a bit biased here, as I've been sharing with friends and acquaintances a similar perspective: that a GOP Seattle agenda matters. It is a beginning, an initial step down the road to Rs becoming politically competitive again in Seattle.

Within a few years, it would also be good to see a more professionally-run, energetic and visible campaign for city council elections by district - instead of the current at-large system. District elections would bring better representation to neighborhoods, and put a greater focus on delivery of core services to the local property taxpayers who foot the bill for running the municipal corporation. Less attention would be paid to the sweeping social and global agenda of Seattle liberals. In 2003, the district elections measure failed by 7 points, but turnout was (surprise, surprise) atrociously low, both for the referendum and contemporaneous council races. Voters had tuned out city politics altogether. There IS an opening to reach these people, with something other than the usual fare.

*UPDATE: Ever-alert reader Richard Pope notes, in the comment section, that the next elections for Seattle City Council, after this year, are in 2007, not 2006; and that the next mayoral contest after this year will be in 2009, not 2008.

Posted by Matt Rosenberg at October 29, 2005 10:50 PM | Email This
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1. Good luck selling this message to Democrats when far left loons like Goldy at HA.org are supposedly representing their party.

Posted by: Jeff B. on October 29, 2005 11:17 PM
2. The libs in Seattle aren't going to vote for a Republican, they've been too indoctrinated (ironically enough) by lefty rags like the PI. I've never even heard of a more ill-informed voting public than Seattle voters. Evidence?


Monorail!

Posted by: steve_dog on October 30, 2005 12:17 AM
3. "For our common good, let's hope a few brave and highly qualified Republicans throw their hats into the council ring in 2006, and maybe even the mayoral race for 2008."

REALLY? I checked out the Seattle P-I on-line, and the same years are in the actual article.

The next race for Seattle City Council is in 2007, not in 2006. Positions 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9 will be elected in 2007.

The next race for Seattle City Mayor is in 2009, not in 2008. In addition to the Mayor, the City Attorney, and City Council Positions 2, 4, 6, and 8 will be elected in 2009.

At least, if the Republicans run candidates for Seattle municipal offices in 2006 and 2008, they can't lose. Can't win either, but what the heck?

Posted by: Richard Pope on October 30, 2005 12:41 AM
4. I couldn't agree more. If it's not kooky leftism, it doesn't sell. It's always the same tiresome thing. I don't know if I hold out much hope for a city that falls all over itself to vote 80% for Jim McDermott when it could vote for Carol Cassidy. Or only 19% for President Bush when he otherwise pulls 46% statewide.

Posted by: Misty on October 30, 2005 01:34 AM
5. Seattle is so politically inbred that the Eastside is actually more politically diverse.

Posted by: Misty on October 30, 2005 01:35 AM
6. How do you like this logic:
"The Times endorses

Ron Sims for King County executive

Imagine King County suddenly grappling with a strange, sweeping flu epidemic, a terrorist attack or earthquake. Voters pondering which candidate would do a better job leading in times of trouble should pick incumbent King County Executive Ron Sims.

Sims has the leadership qualities to board the plane to Washington, D.C., and seek federal help in a convincing, productive way."

SO THE SETTLE TIMES BELIEVES LEFTIST PINHEAD RON SIMS WOULD DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF CONVINCING REPUBLICANS WHO CONTROL WASHINGTON, D.C. TO SEND MONEY TO KING COUNTY THAN REPUBLICAN DAVID IRONS!!!!!!!

Now that's a good one!!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 30, 2005 05:05 AM
7. Seattle Times must think Greg Nickles, Ron Sims, Jim McDermott, Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell did a bang up job delivering funding for the Viaduct. Boy can they deliver. So lets re-elect these geniuses who are so infuential in WA DC.

The blind political loyalty, intellectual laziness, lack of curiosity about outright fraud, inability to recognize incompetence and detachment from reality of the Seattle Times is beyond stunning.

Posted by: THS on October 30, 2005 07:32 AM
8. I remember a GOP candidate for the legislature is Seattle's 36th district who campaigned as a major backer of the Monorail. So, don't buy the idea that the Monorail folly was just supported by lame brained Democrats. It had support of Republicans as well as Democrats.

(The GOP led state Senate enabled the monorail when Sen. Jim Horn (R) Mercer Island chaired the Transportation Committee and championed it.)

People forget that there are still a large number of Republicans in Seattle - if you conservatively estimate GOP voters at 25% of the electorate, that's still more republican voters that any other city in the state.

The Seattle bashers in the GOP need to be mindful of those numbers.

I like Matt's idea. I think there are GOP candidates who could win in Seattle - another liberal bastion, New York City, has elected Republican mayors for over a decade. And New York City has more than one left leaning newspaper.

East King County is becoming more politically diverse (not Eatsern Washington). The GOP better wake up. The reason why East King County is becoming more politically diverse is because the GOP is too often aligned with interests that don't represent mainstream values in terms of: providing for a safe and adequate transportation system.

The other reason is that the GOP often appears to be controlled by religious fundamentalists on subjects like abortion and civil rights for all people, regardless of race, gender and sexual orientation. Smart people in the GOP know its a problem and that the party's social polcieis, especially on civil rights, are in conflict with the party's strength and foundation: competitive economic policies.

Posted by: thor on October 30, 2005 07:52 AM
9. Seattle and King County have been a choice between left and far left for quite a while now. MSM calls someone a "property rights activist" if they opposed the CAO. They will infer a pro-cancer stance for anyone who doesn't fall in "LOCKE-STEP" with a smoking ban in private or public establishments. Eventually they will bankrupt themselves by continuing to fund the socialist experiment that has failed in so many other venues. Capital will flee, not wishing to continue funding the grand experiment any longer, or fight the regulatory self- perpetuating bureaucracy. Soon it will be Union vs. Union and it collapse from there.

Posted by: Roscoe on October 30, 2005 08:45 AM
10. I'm just sick about this. How can we all sit by and let these criminals take away our will and our power like this and just deem themselves king of King County. Next, they'll be having a statue of Sim's and Queen Gregoire installed in Pioneer Square to go with the statue of Lenin.

I suggest we all rise up and pay king county a visit the day before or the day of the election. You can be sure the press will take notice and mention the peoples revolt on the steps of Sim's and Logan's office.

Posted by: Susie on October 30, 2005 08:50 AM
11. "The reason why East King County is becoming more politically diverse is because the GOP is too often aligned with interests that don't represent mainstream values in terms of: providing for a safe and adequate transportation system."

Absolutely and categorically untrue.

East King County is becoming infiltrated with more liberals as they escape the problems of mismanagement of urban King County. And it isn't just "white flight" either. There is a marked movement of people who are tired of corruption, (mis)micro-management, excruciating regulation, and lack of common decency and are moving away from it. To mention anything about transportation issues within the context of some sort of conjecture about the diminution of GOP power is the stuff of liberal wet-dreams. Just because you say it, doesn't make it true. I know of zero Republicans who aren't in favor of "a safe and adequate transportation system". I know plenty (virtually to a person) who are opposed to flamboyant, grandiose boondoggles that rely on huge blank checks, and have more loose strings that that sweater you got for Xmas from Aunt Sylvia!

As for your supposition that the GOP is controlled by the Religious Right ®, just keep on straining at that if it makes ya feel better ;'}

Posted by: alphabet soup on October 30, 2005 09:14 AM
12. Their utopian metropolis can only be built if they place the bulk of their taxation needs on the back of the entire state! Heaven knows they would never tax themselves for the services they use.

It seems to be Christine Gregoire's and Ron Sim's only known strategy.

Having said that there is good reason for hope, as Christine Gregoire's favorable rating is at an all time low of 36% statewide, and Ron Sims and Dean Logan may have overstayed their welcome in this state.

Posted by: GS on October 30, 2005 09:45 AM
13. I think Seattle isn't more than 20% Republican. 25% seems too high.

Posted by: Michele on October 30, 2005 10:21 AM
14. 20%-25% either way it states the obvious, they are simply dangerously inbred from a political standpoint in the greater Seattle Area. So in a way it makes sense that Ron Sims is thier poster child. He is a recessive progressive gene personified.

Posted by: Roscoe on October 30, 2005 11:27 AM
15. As long as Republicans are perceived as naysayers who object strenuously to any move forward and are only interested in cutting taxes and denying people social services while simultaneously offering tax breaks to rich people and government funded bailouts to incompetently run corporate behemoths, they will lose in WA.

NO to people and YES to corporations is not a new idea nor is it a program.

Posted by: Apache Fog on October 30, 2005 11:32 AM
16. As usual, foghat, you swing wildly at a pitch out of the strike zone. As long as you and your scared-of-your-own-shadow comrades continue to spew your "big meany" rhetoric, you will remain blind.

Posted by: Danny on October 30, 2005 11:42 AM
17. Apache:

#1. Your idea of "moving forward" and mine are not the same. There's nothing "progressive" about totalitarianism--it's the oldest form of government there is. And before you toss out the old chestnut about how "socialism doesn't mean totalitarianism," please read "The Road to Serfdom" by F.A. Hayek, and then let's just get it out in the open that you LIKE coercion and government force as long it's doing what you want it to.

2. "Tax breaks for rich people;" hmmm... where to start. How about this: the bottom 1/2 of income tax payers (and by the way, that would include me since I only make about 45k a year) pay 3.46% of the taxes (in the most recent year I have figures for.) So, since the high wage earners are paying the lion's share of the taxes, don't you think it's fair that they get (pay attention here) MOST OF THE BREAKS, especially since it's THEIR MONEY? And by the way, your rich buddies like Teddy "Blowfish" Kennedy and John "I voted for it before I voted against it" Kerry are both VERY WEALTHY, and pay almost nothing in taxes. (Hint: they're not "wage earners," per se. They get most of their income from trusts, etc. and the Kennedys have made an art form out of avoiding taxes. They've managed to transfer half a billion dollars from generation to generation, but have only paid--by their own admission--$134,000 in estate taxes. They avoid this by having trusts in places like Fiji.)

3. Denying people social services: You don't have a right to pick my pocket to pay for your feel-good social services. And by the way, since the "War on Poverty" began, we've transferred some 6 TRILLION dollars (yes, trillion) from the productive members of society to the unproductive. And I don't mean "unproductive" in a pejorative sense; I just mean people who for whatever reason (and I'll grant that there are many legitimate reasons people might have for not working--like not being able to, for example.) Wouldn't ya think we'd have won that war by now? Hint: those in the poverty industry don't want the war to be won. After all, then they'd be out of a job. And by the way, they "cook the books" when it comes to poverty statistics. The average POOR person in the U.S. has a higher standard of living than the AVERAGE (read "non-poor") person in Europe.

4. Government-funded bailouts to incompetently run corporate behemoths: I'm with ya 100% percent on this. I don't see anywhere in the Constitution where the government is allowed, much less obligated, to hand money over from hard working American tax payers to bloated, uncompetitive companies. Well run and efficient companies, either. NO WELFARE: for corporations OR individuals.

have a lovely day.

Posted by: ItTakesAVillageIdiotToProposeUniversalHealthCare on October 30, 2005 11:58 AM
18. Just a thought, how many jobs have you been given by a poor person ?
Then look at the mess democrats made of running New Orleans. If you get a natural disaster in Seattle , it's run by the same party, well look out.

Posted by: smeethow on October 30, 2005 12:50 PM
19. The GOP will never carry Seattle in our lifetmes. But we don't have to. Dino Rossi broke even non-Seattle King County, won the rest of the west with something around 53-54% and broke 60% in the east. He lost because he could only get about 20-25% in Seattle. If we can just improve our showing in Seattle to 1/3 of the vote, we can win.

Posted by: b2 on October 30, 2005 02:34 PM
20. Unfortunately it will probably take removing Ron Sims and Dean Logan, because with them in firm control of the vote counting place, a Republican could never win! However with the Queen Gregoires saging 36% approval rating, the Ron and Dean show (if they survive Ron's reelection in 2006, will have to do 10 recounts in 2008 to get their candidate over the top!

Remember vote early and then vote provisional!

Posted by: GS on October 30, 2005 04:04 PM
21. I just watched the David Irons/Sims debate on Robert Mak's King5-TV Show.
IRONS JUST SCALDED SIMS!!!!
Irons was fabulous.
Sims was on the defensive the entire 30-minutes.
Sims had the look and tone of a defeated man.
Even better, Sims ripped Goldstein saying he had nothing to do with Goldy's smear campaign, he didn't approve of it and would never do such a thing. Sims basically called Goldstein IMMORAL!!
Imagine Sims calling anyone else immoral??!!
Goldstein must be lower than whale-poop!!
Irons didn't back off....pointing out Sims staffman admitted having contacted with the "smarmy" Goldstein.
I LOVE IT!!!!

Irons repeatedly attacked Sims for a lack of leadership on issues like Elections, Transportation, CAO/Property Rights etc.
I was very impressed by David Irons.....I didn't know he had it in him!
It literally took the stuffing out of Sims!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 30, 2005 05:15 PM
22. Watch the David Irons/LOSER Sims Debate tonight for your @
8:00PM on NW Cable News
10:30 on Kong-TV 6/16
It was awesome to see Irons assertively take down Sims.
Or go to the King5 link for Mak’s Upfront @
http://www.king5.com/upfront/

I really didn’t think David Irons had it in him…..and more importantly, neither did Sims!!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 30, 2005 05:43 PM
23. How does Detriot get their mess into drudge and Seattle can't?

http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0510/30/A01-365796.htm

Posted by: timman on October 30, 2005 06:57 PM
24. Now that the two main daily dead fishwrappers endorsed Sims, where does that leave the rest of King County, who these papers don't represent ? I believe that the King County Journal will endorse David Irons, which will be coming this week. Aren't there more votes in non-Seattle King County.

There are some strong elevated campaign signs in Bellevue/Newcastle and other areas of east King county. The first poster says No more Sims (circle with diagonal slash with Sims's name inside of it), then Now or never along the bottom - second poster- David Irons for King County Executive and the last poster said - make sure everyone votes on November 8th. Those seem effective to me. The debate on Up Front was a good showing for Irons. It is past time for a change in this county. Seattle is so out of touch with what are real issues in the county, as they prefer a socialist utopia, which is King Sims' ideology - such as his eliminate homelessness in 10 years - by getting more substantial handouts from the Government - but no additional contributions by the homeless back to society, in other words no accountibility.

The City of Seattle is probably every bit as wasteful as King County - after all Greg Nickels is a protege of Sims, when it comes to Sound Transit - but won't hang the albatross of corrupt elections around Nickles though. If any sensible person looks at this race - Government works more efficiently when both parties have equal representation - it has been tilted too much Democrat for the last 16 years. Now more than ever - the playing field needs to be leveled for the benefit of the voters - HELLO ! The council will have a one vote Democrat advantage in all liklihood, so it only stands to reason that if a Republican is the County Executive, things will begin to operate more efficiently in King County and we already know that the CAO and the elections will get cleaned up. NOW or NEVER !

Posted by: KS on October 30, 2005 07:42 PM
25. We also have large elevated signs in Rural King County, Kent area. No Sims signs to be seen in this area. He and his campaign never showed up after stealing 50-60% of our property, and then having the guts to raise our property tax the same year to boot. This guy has to go!

Vote for Irons, Can Sims!

Posted by: GS on October 30, 2005 08:27 PM
26. It is amazing! I send in my property tax check and it is cashed the day after I send it in but KC can't track our votes or who is registered to vote!!! Sounds very fishy to me. I betcha the property tax department has the reliability and accuracy of a bank! Perhaps the head of the property tax department should take over Dean Logan's job.

Posted by: timman on October 30, 2005 08:33 PM
27. I just watched in amazement the Debate on Robert Maks show as Ron Sims repeated the Big Lie. He said that a professional Banking publication confirmed his analysis that KCE has an accuracy rate ANY bank would be proud of. Of course that was before recent discoveries disclosed on SP. Where in that AAA Credit rating is the 70 MILLION dollar pay-off to Snohomish County for Brightwater? Management? Ron is sure we don't need an elected Auditor. He's a FINE judge of character. Mudslinging, Not Ronnie, his religon keeps him from participating he says. Of course if you can have it done via your chief of Staff or the NAACP... well I guess thats OK. Ron says the buck stops with himself, I would have to agree, most of our tax bucks DO stop with Mr. Sims and that needs to change.

Posted by: Roscoe on October 30, 2005 08:59 PM
28. Timman, dead on:

http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0510/30/A01-365796.htm

This sounds like a district of Rural King county administered by Dean the Democrat electing machine!

Where did you find this, cause it stinks just like Sim's, Gregoire's, and Dean's election debacle!

Is there ever a skunk in the King County Election house?


Pheeeewwwwwweeeeeeee

Posted by: gs on October 30, 2005 09:13 PM
29. David Irons Jr. did a great job on the King 5 debate with Sims. It was hilarious watching Sims squirm when Robert Mak asked him whether he could have done a better job with the whole CAO fiasco!

Posted by: Misty on October 30, 2005 10:06 PM
30. Seattle, a great city?

In what way is Seattle a great city?

In what way is King County a great county?

Reminds me of an old western flick (pick one) where the Mayor is in cahoots with the local rancher who is buying up all the other ranchers. And if you don't want to sell, well meet my buddy the gunslinger. The people all suffer, but it is business as usual. The local paper prints what the Mayor desires. Anyway, most of us are familiar with the western (pick one) and no the ending. A stranger (new hero) arrives in town one day and suddenly (after many shootouts) things come to a head. The town folk all hide and there is a shootout on Main street or 4th ave.

Well, that is Hollywood and this is the real world or is it. Same story, nothing change. Seattle is not great because the people enjoy mediocrity. Misery for all and for all a good election.

Snuffy

Posted by: snuffy on October 30, 2005 10:46 PM
31. Back to the western, please remember folks this is a western city, use to wonder why the good people of the town didn't do anything about the crime and corruption. Why they didn't rise up and tar and feather the Mayor and put him on a rail out of town. That was years ago and then I grew up. Still asking the same question 60 years later. Sims stole your property, cheated on the election counts, chaired Sound Transit.....Oh, you folk know what all he did. And yet the man receives received nods from local papers. And continues to lead the band of thieves that run the County and City. The voters should be embarrassed. Great is not the word I would use in describing King County or Seattle.

Snuffy

Posted by: Snuffy on October 30, 2005 10:56 PM
32. It's good to see you posting almost daily on SP Matt.

Keep harping about district elections for the Silly Council. The Silly Council is a ditto chamber with each position elected by the same city-wide majority. This is why there is no diversity on this silly politicaly body. I thought diversity was supposed to be a goal of the city.

Posted by: BananaLand(AKA Iguana) on October 31, 2005 12:33 AM
33. In fact, Goldy was made to be the Clown Prince of KingCo Politics, being attacked for his morally & ethically bankrupt SH^TSQUAD tactics.
Heretofore, we must refer to David Goldstein as:
GOLDY THE CLOWN!!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 31, 2005 05:10 AM
34. Mr. Cynical: If I ever run for public office, I'm gonna hire you as my Communications Director!

Posted by: alphabet soup on October 31, 2005 08:11 AM
35. Council districts won't necessarily solve the problem. Proportional representation is the only sure way to go. Ideological minorities in every neighborhood would still have a voice on the council.

If 20% of the city votes Republican, 20% of the council seats are held by Republicans. If 10% vote Green, 10% of the seats are Green. Which I guess would be only 2 Republicans and 1 Green on the council, but that's better than the 100% Democrats system we have now.

Posted by: Sotosoroto on October 31, 2005 09:09 AM
36. Unfortunately, Seattle will never have a Republican again until the whole city government collapses a la "Atlas Shrugged" style. Somewhere, there's a little hidden valley in the mountains where all Seattle Republicans are living a nice but secretive, comfortable life while they wait for the inevitible Seattle collapse. Then when the smoke clears from the formerly great Emerald City, they'll walk in with some great new ideas and rescue the city from itself. Well, maybe not. But it's worth dreaming...

Posted by: Scott C on October 31, 2005 02:58 PM
37. That magic valley is called Virginia, now the "best managed state" in the country.

James
aka Guns and Butter
aka The Asianist

Posted by: Guns and Butter/The Asianist on November 2, 2005 05:35 AM
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