October 22, 2005
Unregistered Voters du Jour

Yesterday I discovered more counted provisional ballots from unregistered voters. All but one were assigned to precinct 1823. Like all of the other counted provisional ballots from unregistered voters, these are uniquely and mysteriously missing from the database table of provisional ballots.

These voters don't show up in any version of the voter database that I've seen (1, 2, 3, 4)

These voters registered, but only after the deadline to be eligible to vote any ballot in November 2004. (1, 2, 3)

This voter wrote on his envelope that he was registered to vote in Connecticut. His ballot was not forwarded to Connecticut as it should have been. It was counted in precinct 1823.

This person's ballot was not counted in precinct 1823, but in a different precinct. Not only was he not a registered voter, he didn't even sign his ballot envelope. He was nearly 86 years old last November, so I'll forgive any errors he might have made, but there is no excuse for the elections office to have counted his ballot.

Intriguingly, out of the 22 counted provisional ballots from unregistered voters that I've found so far, 13 have the initials CJB written on them. Several others have the initials DM, DJS and JW. I am not alleging that these are the folks who caused these ballots to be tabulated, but they might know something that could help explain why they were unlawfully tabulated. If anybody knows who these initials belong to and how I might get in touch with them, please email me their contact info.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at October 22, 2005 12:22 PM | Email This
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1. Stefan,

How many counted invalid ballots have you found from precinct 1823?

Posted by: Mike on October 22, 2005 12:44 PM
2. There it is again--the ever-popular dumping ground of Precinct 1823, which we now know is being used to perpetuate so much of this garbage. The puzzle pieces continue to be found.
KCE, we demand clean elections!
Thank you, Stefan, for not letting this go and trying to find all the answers!

Posted by: Michele on October 22, 2005 12:56 PM
3. To carry Washington in a close election carry precinct 1823. I'd bet Richard Daley Sr. voted in precinct 1823.

Posted by: JCM on October 22, 2005 01:31 PM
4. How many Rossi votes were there in Precinct 1823? How many bogus votes have you found so far in Precinct 1823? If the number of bogus votes from there exceeds twiece the number of Rossi votes, by at least 138, that would be proof positive that the election was stolen.

Posted by: supercat on October 22, 2005 01:42 PM
5. I think this is what is maddening about the government and the media. A place where you can make real claims about conspiracy to cover up negligence. In a tight election, the voting system we are using seems ripe for fraud by individuals. People who have purposely voted twice need to made examples of in court and the media. then I might get my election confidence back. And we should dump this provisional ballot crap. If you are not smart enough to vote absentee or visit the correct voting precint, then you are not smart enough to vote. Draw a tighter line.

Posted by: holt on October 22, 2005 03:50 PM
6. Each vote should be validated by an ID card and a phone number.

Posted by: holt on October 22, 2005 03:51 PM
7. Holt
KC does not care about that. In fact they did not want to see ID's during the Nov Election. IT was called the Honor system. Like the illegal and legal aliens voting in elections. They are suppose to know they can not vote but a dirty secret is that when you get your drivers license you can also register to vote. Sure you say you are a US Citizen but most of these people think well if they want me to register to drive I must also register to Vote.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on October 22, 2005 04:12 PM
8. Yes, Election Officials make such a big todo about voters having confidence in the system. But their non id ing actions are creating voters that have confidence that they can game the system. Then maybe that is something I should try also. It will collapse like a house of cards with disenfranchised voters not turning out if people start to do business this way. I think the ID issues should be pressed after a few illegal voters have gone to jail for 5 years.

Posted by: holt on October 22, 2005 04:33 PM
9. supercat--
That is a very good question....
What was the final Rossi/Gregoire tally from Precindt 1823?

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 22, 2005 04:51 PM
10. If Don Ron Sims King wins===Logan keeps his job.
If Sims loses===============Logan will be FIRED!!
If David Irons wins=========Logan will be FIRED!!!
I'm happy to keep beating that drum until November 8th!
Maybe Stefan can help me out with a countdown until January 1st....when Logan is FIRED!
By my count, it's only 70 days!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 22, 2005 05:06 PM
11. The one and only way the Precinct 1823 crap will stop is when a huge boat load of R's just go down to 1823 and register to vote there. Ummmm. No. No need to register I guess. Just vote. Vote all you want in fact. The D's will see the totals next time and decide that "something just must be done about this 'problem'."

Posted by: mykela on October 22, 2005 05:20 PM
12. I wonder how many Democrat controlled counties have their own version of precinct 1823?

We certainly have enough evidence to pursue an investigation by the Feds. In fact - it would have to be by the Feds due to the conflict of interest with the county prosecutors office and even the state attorney generals office...

All that Stefan has discovered in the past few weeks is *new* evidence - not previously available during the election contest. This evidence shows orchestrated fraud with a coordinated effort by those employed with King County Elections with the initials of CJB, DM, DJS and JW.

If the Feds can't perform an investigation with this much information and evidence - then they owe the public and explanation as to why!

Posted by: Deborah on October 22, 2005 07:57 PM
13. Stefan,

Re: the envelope for the 86 year old man - it does have a notation in the right hand corner saying Precinct 1823. Is that just the dumping grounds for all strange votes? Maybe it is the reject pile and they only went in there to get votes after it was obvious that Queen Christine needed a few more! Do you have the specific numbers on how many total votes came from there? And how much did those numbers change from count #1 to count #2 to count #3? And finally, how many pieces of evidence do you think you'll have to discover before ANYONE in the MSM will decide to take a look at this?

Posted by: Suzihomemaker on October 22, 2005 08:41 PM
14. Suziehomeaker is right...

The ballot of the 86 tyear old does indeed list precinct 1823 in the prec.portion space next to the S/B.....

Posted by: Deborah on October 22, 2005 09:34 PM
15. From a 10/21 KCE press release about a new temporary facility, "...and it will provide more room needed for the extra teams of people duplicating ballots." Last November worked so well, they're expanding... just kidding. In context it sounds better (sort of) - it's on the King County Metro page.

I am just amazed at the size of precinct 1823: Auburn (Tacoma), Federal Way, Redmond, Renton, Lake Forest Park, Seattle, Bellevue, Madrona, Connecticut, etc.

Obviuosly it is a dumping ground for ballots that require "special handling". Since Stefan has pointed out all the issues surrounding this "special handling", I wonder when KCE will give us a full accounting of how so many "superficially" invalid ballots "just happened" to be counted - and why. If all of these legally should have gone before the canvassing board for disposition, where are the records?

I shan't hold my breath.

I wonder, do any other counties have a "dumping ground" precinct? How do they resolve ballots that are similar to these examples?

Partisan shot: Dems never have a problem divining haw a voter voted - everyone intends to vote for the Democrat - makes it easier to "duplicate".

/sarc

Posted by: SouthernRoots on October 22, 2005 10:12 PM
16. Stefan, when all the investigating is done, you should put it all together into a book (with a catchy, descriptive title) telling how they obtained the result, and release said book, oh, about 2008.

Posted by: Michele on October 22, 2005 11:06 PM
17. Why won't KCE tell you who these initials belong to?
Has anyone started tracking down the people that submitted these ballots to check thier story, and what info poll workers gave them?

Posted by: Rick on October 23, 2005 10:12 AM
18. The one ballot counted in the other precinct was probably an error. If you make the decision to count ballots from unregistered voters would you take the time to assign them to their correct precincts? that would have required the workers to put the ballots back into the the precinct's batches. Precinct 1823 was picked to save time.

What concerns is me is that the ballots arn't on the list of provisional ballots that they produced. Where is the "failsafe" to prevent more than one ballot per person from being counted? What would stop a person from going to a dozen polling places and casting provisionals?
It appears they would all be counted, and they would be hard to find if they are "sorted" off of a list of voters who voted provisional.

If you have a batch of votes from one precinct, you should also have a batch of absentee ballots from that precinct, and the numbers of both should match, if they don't there is a problem.

Why are the envelopes from provisionals sorted alphabetically? They should be sorted by precinct and into batches in the precinct boxes. A "real" audit of KC elections, would expose their systemic flaws. It appears these provisionals were cast at different polling places. It also appears that they were separated from their batches for verification.

They were rejects and someone made a conscious decision to get them into the vote count.

Posted by: sgmmac on October 23, 2005 10:21 AM
19. Somebody please tell me- if I am not registered as an absentee voter, and if I have never voted absentee before in my life, should I be getting an absentee ballot in the mail like I just got? Don't I have to apply for that?

Posted by: ERNurse on October 23, 2005 06:16 PM
20. ERNurse,

What county do you live in? Some counties switched to all absentee voting over the past few months without the public's approval.....

I would think that switching to absentee voting 3 years ago would have been absurd....but for our liberal state legislature to suddenly adopt this *All Mail Voting* system just months after the disasterous 2004 election? It's just screams of a blatant fraud set up for future elections!

I know everyone is asking what on earth Olympia was thinking with this All Mail Voting....but I think they know exactly what they are doing....and it's frightening.

Posted by: Deborah on October 23, 2005 07:19 PM
21. Perhaps this is a bit off topic but in Pierce County why were the Port of Tacoma candidates included on the November general election ballot and not on the September primary ballot, or is this more of the open government process in the State of Washington designed to keep the public from participating in the pre-selection process?
BTW, you are the greatest source of facts online in the Northwest, thanks for keeping them on their toes.

Posted by: Jack on October 23, 2005 07:58 PM
22. holt, David Anfinrud,

This whole mess makes me think even more that the only way the fraud will stop is if Republicans start "winning" elections in WA state via fraud. Then the 'Rats will get off their dead a$$e$ and do something about fixing it. As long as they are the ones who keep "winning" via fraud, they won't do anything about it.

I'm not advocating fraud, but the stupid jerk Bridges did, in effect, when he said we had to use the corrupt, crooked election system in WA state to fix it. The only way to fix it is to use it, i.e., a fraudlent process, to "win". If you do, then there will be incentive among the majority to change it. Bridges, in his ruling, in any practical interpretation, endorsed fraud as a way to fix it. Irony can be pretty ironic, no?

Posted by: Interested Observer on October 24, 2005 07:13 AM
23. Deborah,
Scary proposition, this all mail voting scheme. Even scarier, some folks (hint: not Republicans) have this on the ballot in Ohio next month, along with other "sensible" things like an unelected, appointed elections commission.

In one respect, Gregoire was right, your '04 election WAS a model election - a model in how to steal one. And now, Dems in Ohio are pushing that model on us. God willing, they'll fail.

Posted by: Snowy Owl on October 24, 2005 08:29 AM
24. Ack, I misspoke, they don't want all-mail voting, they want absentee balloting at will. Nary a difference...

Posted by: Snowy Owl on October 24, 2005 08:30 AM
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