Today's Seattle Times and P-I both have articles about the dueling press conferences outside the King County Elections office yesterday
P-I: "Many on voter rolls twice? GOP says thousands in county could cast 2 ballots"
Times: "Voter names found twice".
What do Ron Sims and Dean Logan have to say in their defense?
Election officials and Sims quickly said yesterday that at least one name on the GOP's duplicate-voters list appeared to be a mistake — and they questioned the Republicans' motives in making a media splash.The only person the GOP so far alleges to have voted twice under different registrations both last November and in this September's primary is Patricia A Levesque.Elections Office spokeswoman Bobbie Egan said a woman singled out by the Republican Party as having voted twice in the 2004 general election and again in the 2005 primary actually appears to be two women with the same name but different birthdates.
Here are the two original voter registration forms, as released by King County Elections. The first was filed in 2002, the second in 2004. Other records show that the address on the first registration was changed in 2003 to 94 Bay St, the address that was given on the 2004 registration. Note that the signatures are all but identical and the birthdates are only one day apart: one is 10/15/1940, the other 10/16/1940. The handwriting on the two forms is different, suggesting that one might have been filled out by someone other than the voter who could have easily made a mistake in transcribing the birthdate. 94 Bay St. is a building of studio apartments.
Would any sane person believe that there are two different people named Patricia A Levesque, whose birthdates are one day apart and who have identical signatures and share a studio apartment? Of course not. But Ron Sims and his spokeswoman believe it!
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at October 13, 2005 10:40 AM | Email ThisDid the change of address on the first include an apartment number? Where is it relative to #306?
I don't know why Ron has a problem with a day off in 65 years - surely that is an accuracy any bank would envy. One day in 23,739 days of her life. That is 99.9957876% accurate!
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Hubby: Whad'we get?
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A movie for the kids.
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(Narrator aside to audience - Sad isn't it?)
Posted by: Jericho on October 13, 2005 11:30 AMSo according to Bobbie Egan, this is a simple case of 2 people with the same name, at the same address, with birthdays only one day off, in a building where only one person can reside - Obviously no voter fraud going on here...
Posted by: Hard R on October 13, 2005 11:37 AMRepublicans are so stupid and paranoid when it is so obvious!
Pssst. Ronnie. Where did you say you stashed those other ballots?
Posted by: fred on October 13, 2005 11:48 AMLikely yes.
Read about what's to come. Lew Rockwell points it out in his column on the New Orleans relief effort.
He could have titled it: We are from the government and we are here to oppress you.
Click my name.
Posted by: Jericho on October 13, 2005 12:47 PMAbsolutely amazing. And I sure would've liked to see them explain away that 'green card' voter. That one on its face is illegal.
And how about a GOOD explanation as to why Dean Logan, near the 1st certification date, went digging through the trash (otherwise known as the Fatal Pends illegal ballot box) to get more ballots when it looked like Dino Rossi might (horrors!) actually be declared the winner? Could it be because he was told to 'get the right result'???? Or was it all his own very idea to rummage through the trash to 'get the right result'. Somethin' smells reeeeal bad here.
Look, it's over, Logan and Sims. We are SOOOO on to you. Just 'fess up and tell us you were manufacturing the desired result.
Kudos to the Republican Party for going straight to the people and telling it like it is. The people have had ENOUGH!
Posted by: Realist on October 13, 2005 01:08 PMStolen liberty.
Stolen guns.
Stolen life.
Didn't God ask the question Adam where are you?
God, where are you?
Where's justice?
Posted by: Jericho on October 13, 2005 01:18 PMKudos, Toto, I mean Stefan.
Posted by: GMT on October 13, 2005 01:20 PMLogan seemed to make a big deal about how they aired it in the media instead of bringing to him first. BUT when things are brought directly to Logan he shows a consistent record of dropping the ball or trying to hide it under a rug.
The bottom line is the voting roles are still dirty. Which could cost future candidates a fair election. If taking it to the media first is the only way to pressure Logan and Sims to clean them up so be it!
St Charles Hotel, (206) 344-8312, 619 3rd Ave, Seattle, WA 98104
So she stayed in room 505 of a hotel in 2002. And now lives in a studio without a phone. Someone should call or visit the hotel and find out who (if anyone) stayed in room 505 on July 10, 2002.
Smells fishy.
Posted by: Beantowner on October 13, 2005 01:30 PMThe way Logan handles elections, each one -- by definition -- is a new low.
He held a press conference to admit that?!
Posted by: Micajah on October 13, 2005 01:39 PMNow...back to King County...where the evil "Ron-ulons" control...(evil laugh track here);
Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on October 13, 2005 01:43 PMLogan already has the "underlying documentation." It's his records that show these problems. What a moron.
You work for ME, putz!!!
And he's waiting for the "documentation" from the "Republicans"?
He is an out-and-out criminal, is he not?
Posted by: Bostonian on October 13, 2005 03:50 PMSince when did cleaning up the election department's voter data base not become the job and responsibility of Dean Logan and his department.
He seems proud that he purged thousands of Felons from his data base. What were they doing in that data base in the first place?
How many other groups of illegal voters are in that data base?
It's like saying finding a pothole in the road is not the road departments responsibility.
I cannot believe the arogance of these people in these critical offices. It is simply amazing they are entrusted with the complete mis-management of such an important database as the legal voter database in washington state.
Bring on the November election, all of us (even Ken Schram) will be watching that every vote has a legal citizen voter.
If Ron and Dean they won't do the job they are paid handsomely for, we'll continue to expose them and do there job for them daily until they either proactively clean this mess up or until they are gone.
Welcome aboard Ken, it's about time!
Posted by: GS on October 13, 2005 06:01 PMI hope Keith Ervin bites into this like a pitbull and doesn't let go! I see a turning of the media tide....and it's going *against* Ron Sims and Dean Logan....
Has the Seattle Times posted their endorsement for King County Executive yet? If they run all of these negative *exposure* stories on Sims then turn around and endorse him for KCE...they will look completely foolish...
Perhaps the Seattle Times has lost a lot of subscriptions since their biased and liberal coverage of the election contest.....? Could these recent expose's on Sims be an effort to regain their credibility and recapture business?
Let's face it - No one in their right mind believe Logan, Eagan and Sim's nonsense spin anymore....
It needs to be done in a (as they say) "conscientiously applied program of election reform". Stefan has clearly & dramatically illustrated that there are too many instances of folks that don't belong on the books, so we start there. Dump the whole shebang!
Now you have a clean slate to work with. Demand legitimate proof of ID (and for god's sake verify!) in order to sign up. Do this well before an election so that you negate the necessity of so many provisional ballots.
Place an emphasis on criminal penalties for vote fraud, and enforce a few!
Instead of wasting taxpayer resources on a Dean apologist manual (the insipid & insulting voters pamphlet) put out a document that clearly and concisely spells out your responsibilities as a voter.
Becoming clearer yet?
Posted by: alphabet soup on October 14, 2005 07:44 AMThere is an assumption by too many that the majority party in this state wants meaningful reform. They want no reform whatsoever. If anything, they would like to expand fraud to enlarge their constituency. (See all mail ballots).
I believe there is intelligent design behind the events at KKE. This are not the buffoons they are made out to be. In fact, if you are a critical thinker, concluding that this entire organization is run and managed by buffoons is the only deduction you can make unless you believe it’s actually a criminal enterprise.
I agree with you soup. Meaningful election reform is a new voter roll. Voters must have valid ID. Voting more than once, non-citizens voting, felons voting etc are crimes and NORM WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO ENFORCE THE LAW AGAINST CRIMINALS. Isn’t it weird that what I have written is so vigorously opposed by the majority party in this State?
Odd, isn't it? Logan's gang is so quick to disparage their critics, even when the criticism is accompanied by pretty clear evidence; and yet they don't even check to see what they have done before saying their critics are just being partisan.
Posted by: Micajah on October 14, 2005 10:20 AMWhen your state is being run by a witch...there is nothing wrong with a witch hunt!
Posted by: BW on October 14, 2005 10:53 AMWhen your state is being run by a witch...there is nothing wrong with a witch hunt!
Posted by: BW on October 14, 2005 10:53 AMWhen your state is being run by a witch...there is nothing wrong with a witch hunt!
Posted by: BW on October 14, 2005 10:54 AMWhen your state is being run by a witch...there is nothing wrong with a witch hunt!
Posted by: BW on October 14, 2005 10:54 AMThe obvious spin here is something that is so MSM. But, in keeping this headline out here, they are hoping that the majority of viewers and readers will walk away with the sound bite that this was just a Republican vote getting ploy. That may have worked pre 2004. Now that we live in the age of blogs, what I am finding is that more and more people are going back to the Internet after they read or hear the news to get clarification when there is an open argument between two parties.
When voters look for clarification, it's obvious lies like this that really sway voters to our side. Think about the Rather memos and the Swift Boat vets last year. The MSM lead with these stories against Bush, but concerned voters went to the web and learned the truth.
Keith Earvin will hopefully shed some objectivity on this, and between that and the objectivity of each individual voter, and hopefully Irons clear elucidation of these facts, there are going to be a lot of people that see Sims for what he is. A deceitful politician.
Go Irons.
Posted by: Jeff B. on October 14, 2005 11:14 AMKeep digging and whining Goldstein, it will be up to the public to decide if it was really right for Dean Logan to assign so many ballots to precinct 1823 and count them, when they were obviously questionable. The more you bring this up, the more it brings this to the attention of moderate Democrats. Thanks.
I am sure that Mr. Irons also has plans for immunization against the avian flu - as King Sims announced earlier today, as most large urban areas in the US do - so those who think this area is so blessed are very provincial and really just taking everything for granted.
Posted by: KS on October 14, 2005 01:02 PMNow, if they would only get the other thousand, we might be getting somewhere!
Posted by: sgmmac on October 14, 2005 02:49 PM