John Rosenberg has it here. Tim Eyman isn't the only one who suspects this change in policy may be motivated by a desire to get around I-200. And I must confess that experience has led me to suspect anything dubbed "holistic".
Posted by Jim Miller at October 07, 2005 01:13 PM | Email ThisRi-i-i-i-i-ight......and they conduct clean and accurate elections in King County, too.
Posted by: Realist on October 7, 2005 01:22 PMIt takes power away from high school students - who could before gain entry through academic acheivement they had control over - and gives it to a small number of admissions ideologs. Their principle objective will be to create their image of a campus utopia.
That's the sort of thing that socialist societies do.
Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on October 7, 2005 02:00 PMI had to ask for an advanced review of my transcripts and present other criteria in order to try and convince the admissions directors otherwise. I was still denied, because their standards did not allow them to look at this additional information. Allowing a Holistic view would be a benefit to a number of students, including me, so they could review the entire scope of the candidate, not just numbers on a transcript and school sports.
Posted by: DustinJames on October 7, 2005 04:13 PMGofigure
Well, I'd disagree with that. My relative worth to the UW as 3.2 student with stellar classes would be HIGHER than the kid with the 4.0 who took Pottery for his elective instead of Advanced Physics.
I understand that they would looking at other items, such as income level, etc, but I'd still have a lot better chance than just looking at numbers to numbers.
Posted by: DustinJames on October 7, 2005 05:08 PMPosted by: The Pirate on October 7, 2005 06:26 PM
With only 30% of High school students expected to pass the WASL test (which is required for graduation...)...I suspect the UofW won't have many applicants to apply this *holistic* admissions to.
The students who can apply - will spend their senior year in high school trying to create some pitiful *hardship* on themselves and their families so they can *overcome* it and look worthy for admission!......sigh....
This is a sick and pathetic attempt at Socialism in America.
Posted by: Deborah on October 7, 2005 07:53 PMSorry - I took the same classes in high school that you did and graduated with a 3.94. There are way more students out there trying to get into the UW with a 3.5 GPA or higher with real class loads then you want to believe. Plus, with a 3.2 you probably wouldn't get into Western either - looks like you're Coug material.
Posted by: Bubbasaurus on October 7, 2005 09:14 PMI eventually got accepted at OSU, UO, WWU, WSU, and CWU, but didn't want to attend so far from home, so I skipped it all.
Posted by: DustinJames on October 8, 2005 11:41 AMMy youngest is a junior. She passed the WASL (all four parts) with flying colors. She will do well on her SAT and ACT. She is involved in leadership and community service. She has a 3.98 GPA and is taking AP courses. She wants to attend a Community College her first two years and transfer. I say fine with me. As long as she transfers and gets a four-year degree, I really don't care where she goes.
This WASL is a huge story now. We are working on a countywide article right now. It turns out the junior class at Colfax High School had a 48 percent pass rate. Meaning, if these kids were required to pass the WASL to graduate, 52 percent of my daughter's class would not graduate. Statewide it was 42 percent pass rate of this junior class. That came directly from the report we received with my daughter's results.
The letter to the parents, from the school district, accompanying her results was very touchy feely. An excerpt: "Meeting each of these rigorous standards is an accomplishment worthy of special recognition, as only 42 percent of all 10th grade students in the entire State of Washington met all three of the standards on the WASL."
Foreign countries are teaching the basics and beating us at our own game. THEIR universities are not P.C.--they are most likely sweatshops of work and disclipline with little room for complacency. America would rather be the "feel good technical center" of the world.
Yea--some guy who "had a hard life" and stole hubcaps is infinitely more qualified to enter college and design a bridge than some quiet geek who missed the college homecoming to get that last cite for his kick-butt technical paper. "Holistic" is a self-revealing term. "Hole"--empty--squat--i.e.--devoid of rational thinking and facing uncomfortable truths in academia.
Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on October 8, 2005 10:34 PMUniv of W’s next year’s medical board exam will be “trust me”—that silly corporate diversity game wherein you fall backwards into your teammate’s arms;
Meanwhile, colleges in India, China and Korea are busily cranking out serious engineers that are studying American authors’ books (that we abandonded) and kicking our feel-good butts in every manufacturing field;