Here's an interesting provisional ballot envelope that I found in the Archives today. The signature on the ballot envelope bears no resemblance to the signature on the voter registration record. The note suggests that the ballot was counted, with the okay of Bill H.
You need to remember that the "Spring time for Sims" Citizen's Election Oversight Committee, was very concerned about the potential number of provisional ballots that would be in the November election and several months in advance of the election put King County elections on notice that this would likely be a problem. They demanded that the Dean and Bill show make a reasonable forecast of the number of provisional ballots and then come up with contingency plans on how to handle them.
It would be nice to provide the Citizen's Election Oversight Committee with feedback in how the provisional ballots they warned the County about were handled.
I am reminded of Sargent Schultz of the TV comedy Stallag 13 fame......."I see nothing!"
Yes, I can just see Bill H saying this was O.K.
If they would count the ballots, I would provide King County Elections with a vote of no confidence, but know that Sims wouldn't act on it.
Posted by: GS on September 19, 2005 07:49 PM
I'm starting to worry about you. You need to get a life. You have a family, children... they need you. Give it up, Dino lost, Chrissy won. It's OK. Life goes on. You will live to fight another day.
Pouring over these ballots won't change the outcome. You have to let it go. We all learned to do that after W's stolen election of 2000. Honest, life goes on..........
Posted by: Unkl Witz on September 19, 2005 07:56 PMBe sure to cc: Logan, Sims, Seattle Times, Seattle P-I and John Fund @ The Wall Street Journal. Posted by: Mr. Cynical on September 19, 2005 07:57 PM
Stefan never said he is trying to change the outcome of the election. But I believe it is worthwhile to try and prove future elections by holding those in power over counting the ballots accountable. A simple process, don't you think?
After all, the buck stops with the Election Offical, doesn't it??? Unfortunately, it appears more like the BUCK PASSES THRU rather than stops.
Kinda like Oat Bran passing thru the rectum of a jackass with severe diahrrea...the buck doesn't stop. Hell, it doesn't even slow down!!! It just passes right thru. Posted by: Mr. Cynical on September 19, 2005 08:02 PM
We just can't seem to get beyond names and name calling.
Did any of you "patriots" graduate from Jr High?????
No matter what you might wish, there will be more elections in the future. If trying to clean up the elections process offends you, that says quite enough about you. Posted by: Dishman on September 19, 2005 08:21 PM
Something tells me you ain't sorry at all...nor should you be. Posted by: Mr. Cynical on September 19, 2005 09:45 PM
Any comment about the machines in Ohio, 2004? Posted by: PC on September 19, 2005 09:51 PM
run out of original material? I thought you a better jouster. As for your comments to Stefan: a phony $20 is a phony $20--no talking it away--illegal is illegal, remember?
another matter--I DO recognize that signature--It's Quiqueg--the native--from the Pequod--must have signed it just before the seabirds became restless; "...'thar she blows!..." and what will tomorrow's election bring? another whale of a tale?
Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on September 19, 2005 10:03 PMSince people love voting by mail, and people hate having even a few valid ballots rejected, what can we do? Maybe change the law to require mail ballots to be received by Election Day, impose stricter rules for signature matching, and send a form letter to the many voters who fail the match test, requiring them to either mail in a better signature within 10 days (and take the chance that it fails too) or appear in person to prove their identity.
Posted by: Bruce on September 19, 2005 10:20 PMKing County has now placed Bill H. in a job teaching the Blind how to vote! Maybe the Blind can teach Bill H. how to read a signature?
This is just so wrong on so many levels....
Posted by: Deborah on September 20, 2005 12:09 AMIt looks like Stefan is at least trying to do that. And you have the gall to hammer him for that? Gee, you should be thankful he is helping to clean out the rot. That's probably a lot more than the 'Rats are doing, who caused it in the first place.
Posted by: Interested Observer on September 20, 2005 06:40 AMPouring over these ballots won't change the outcome. You have to let it go. We all learned to do that after W's stolen election of 2000. Honest, life goes on..........
Are honest elections a priority for you? Your statements suggest they're not.
BTW - Name a vote count in the Florida, in the 2000 election, that Gore came out the leader in. Waiting, still waiting, crickets chirping.........
I made my comment earlier regarding the veracity, credibility, and honorable intentions of the two Republican candidates, and beyond that I voiced no accusations, spread no rumors, or made any associations.
I had hoped that representatives of each candidate would make some sort of official declaration regarding the crap that has been spewed, but, as yet, have not seen one.
What I have seen is readily apparent - go back and reread this thread from the top down.
I can't speak for anyone else but what I said before has been clearly illustrated: "With friends like these, who needs enemies?"
I hope y'all give it a long hard look and then go vote your conscience.
Now we return you to the previous programming ;'}
Posted by: alphabet soup on September 20, 2005 11:17 AMWhat is even sadder, is that there were probably
hundred and thousands of similar ballots counted and we end up with Queen Christie. Many years ago, I worked in the Elections Office for a large Midwest City. There was not one person of any political party that would have allowed this ballot to be counted. I wish I could show this to those people... They would be astounded !! Posted by: not Surprised on September 20, 2005 12:33 PM
I hate it when that happens! ;)
Posted by: Deborah on September 20, 2005 05:46 PMLatching onto Michele's post above and jumping on the pile of football players over you & the ball:
here it is simply: Stefan's work is like you going back & complaining that the the grocery clerk tossed the eggs in your bag and busted all of them; you point it out to the manager and have him do something about is NOW; crap work is what it is; so why do some of us tolerate it in voting more so than in a few eggs? You don't want "broken eggs"--neither do other voters!
Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on September 22, 2005 09:22 PM