September 06, 2005
Deceased Voters still getting absentee ballots

Martin Ringhofer was in the P-I back in January of this year.

Months later, his parents are still getting their voter registration cards and absentee ballots.

I e-mailed Dean Logan's spokeswoman Bobbie Egan on Friday morning and asked her for information I could post on the blog regarding what a citizen should do if an absentee ballot for a deceased or otherwise ineligible voter arrives at one's home. No response yet.

UPDATE: Egan e-mails:

Please direct these calls to (206) 296-VOTE so that we can address any issues and help these voters.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at September 06, 2005 10:51 PM | Email This
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1. OMG! With all of these faux paux coming to light, aren't they embarrassed YET that they are not finding them themselves? They can't all have dirt for brains, can they?

Posted by: katomar on September 6, 2005 11:05 PM
2. ...and remember...(bless his Parents' memories)...these were sent to former LEGAL voters...who knows how many illegals are getting the money-saving bulk mailings;

your average neighborhood kid at his lemonade stand has more business sense and efficiency than "Logan's Heroes";

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on September 6, 2005 11:39 PM
3. This is sickening.

Posted by: cc on September 6, 2005 11:52 PM
4. King County Elections has a notification of death card that Mr. Ringhofer can pick up at any polling place, fill out, and give to the polling place inspector, notifying the county of his parents' deaths. I'm surprised the county did not offer to mail these cards to him when he phoned. The matter ought to be easily resolved.

Posted by: huckleberry on September 7, 2005 12:29 AM
5. "The matter ought to be easily resolved."

Gee......One would think!

This has been going on for years!! Martin Ringhofer has done everything and beyond - as a citizen - trying to get his dead parents names removed from the King County voter database. He's even been in the media about it! Over the years he has phoned and faxed and written and emailed and phoned again! I believe he has also delt with them in person!

Last spring, I truly began to think that Dean Logan and the King County elections department were purposely retaining Martin's parents names in the database out of some sick vendetta! Now - I am convinced! In this case - what else makes sense?

How low will these depraved people go?

Posted by: Deborah on September 7, 2005 12:42 AM
6. I got somebody else's ballot today and ripped it up into tiny little pieces. Considering that I live in a college town I don't think the person is dead but the fact that so many people forget to change their registration scares me.

Posted by: Brendon on September 7, 2005 12:56 AM
7. Hmmmm.

Did Bush's Senior Political Advisor Illegally register to vote?

http://www.citizensforethics.org/press/newsrelease.php?view=77

Posted by: Robert on September 7, 2005 05:55 AM
8. Deborah, these "people" will go as low as it takes for them to self-destruct; sadly, they will take many innocent non-psychopaths with them....unless they are stopped by good people. So far, mere words (ballots, blogs, and briefs [legal ones]) have been ineffective. Ergo?

Posted by: The Pirate on September 7, 2005 06:41 AM
9. Karl Rove has seceret operatives in KCE mailing absentee ballots to dead people.

Dick Cheney and Halliburton have hacked the KCE computer system and uploaded the felon database into the voter database.

Condi Rice registered homeless people at non-existant addresses.

Denny Hastert sent letter to democrats saying it was okay to vote more than once.

Trent Lott personally filled out provisional ballots and feed them into the accuvote.

Strom Thrumond sent in 1800 absentee ballots.

When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. See it all makes sense when you see the whole story.

It all makes sense now, we'll you all relax.

Posted by: JCM on September 7, 2005 07:44 AM
10. Hey robert.....BFD

Posted by: alphabet soup on September 7, 2005 07:54 AM
11. It's easy! Just tell them that his parents vote Republican.

Posted by: rightwingwacko on September 7, 2005 08:02 AM
12. Hey Robert...their state, their problem. Don't use election issues in other states as justification for election fraud in our state. Almost all other states have a significantly better track record of correcting election problems than Washington State.

Washatonians are tired of election fraud, and we want it stopped. Beginning with King County.

Posted by: dl on September 7, 2005 08:39 AM
13. JCM, ya left out the rascally Diabold computer system!!

Posted by: PC on September 7, 2005 09:01 AM
14. Why do we bother with elections in King County?

Ron Sims already decides who will win. He should just save us all the money of elections and officially declare himself King.

Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on September 7, 2005 09:33 AM
15. Open request to Logan's and Sim's bankers: screw-up both accounts; bounce their checks; lose their deposits; ask them to re-submit everything 3 times; Now--sit back with a stopwatch and see how long THEY bring the hammer down on YOU--within minutes, THEY will have the force of every regulatory agency crawling up your kelt;

So--Messrs Logan & Sims--why are the voters not getting the same attention you would give to your OWN affairs? Who is working for whom? What's the plural of 'putz?'

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on September 7, 2005 09:39 AM
16. All the hand-picked commissions have completed their commissioning.
All the blue-ribbon panels have completed their panelling.
All the ballot fixers have done their fixing.
Now the rest of the State gets to enjoy watching true representative democracy in action and seeing vote counting accuracy that banks would envy.
Danno's prediciton:
Dems in a landslide.
Taxes up.
Business out.

Posted by: Danno on September 7, 2005 10:39 AM
17. Ask yourself. Which 'political orientation' is most apt to fill in and return such an unsolicited registration? Might as well get a "valid" signature on record.

Posted by: OroDave on September 7, 2005 12:14 PM
18. Per RCW a deceased voter can only be removed three ways.
1. Deceased list received from the state once a month.
2. Obituary from a newspaper.
3. Another registered voter signing a penaly to perjury statement attesting of their knowledge that the voter is deceased.

KCE should have offered to mail the deceased card or explained the correct procedure to take care of this.

Posted by: pjl on September 7, 2005 03:41 PM
19. pjl...#3 has been tried many times, it apparently does not work in KC>

Posted by: dl on September 7, 2005 04:59 PM
20. All been done since September 1996, and June 1997, many times. Quite honestly, at first it was very hurtful, and upseting. Not until the 2004 general election, and the Democrat's Drumbeat "Every Vote Counts" did it suddenly all add up. No need to point out there is something very wrong with people dead 9 years continuing to get absentee ballots and new registration cards over and over and over ... and at an address the dead people NEVER lived to begin with. Now that we all know their MO, and what's up with this, it's rather amuzing, and I kid that my parents are not really dead after all, they are truly just absentee voters. :o)

Posted by: martinringhofer on September 7, 2005 05:18 PM
21. Martin--may your Parents' memories be honored.
Interestingly, if anyone (God forbid) desecrated their burial plots, the perp would be arrested in a second.

Yet, elections officials continue to insult the memory of the deceased and their surviving relatives by sloppily sending ballots and not doing their jobs properly. It's the indifference of the incompetent.

Every repeat incorrect ballot mailing is a continued "flip-off" to you and your late parents' honor. Why not do the liberal thing and find a slimy lawyer and call the ballot mailings 'continued harassment' and collect for emotional trauma?

How would the "elections mailers" react to an incorrect obituary about them or their family published in the paper? Is there no decency and respect? Only elections workers' half-arsed repetitive motions called "working?"

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on September 8, 2005 10:57 AM
22. Totally unacceptable.

"UPDATE: Egan e-mails: Please direct these calls to (206) 296-VOTE so that we can address any issues and help these voters."

Dean Logan and every county auditor has the means to run their database against DEAD PEOPLE and purge their entire database of DEAD PEOPLE.

They have an obligation to have nothing but qualified live US Citizens on the list, period. They have the means to ensure that, and not leave it up to chance or self-disclosure.

If anyone reading this has any idea on how this can be fixed, and not leave it to chance, or a phone call by honest citizens, which doesn't work: drop me a line or post the solution on this string.

Wouldn't it be GREAT if POLICE nolonger enforced traffic laws, and ask the drivers to report their violations so they may be sent a traffic infraction in the mail?

RIDICULOUS.


Posted by: martinringhofer on September 8, 2005 04:54 PM
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