September 06, 2005
Understanding the Liberal Mindset
Want to understand the true nature of the liberal mindset?
Read this post from "DemGurl" at Democratic Underground. Then read the comments. Now you know.
(Thanks to The Diesel Shack for getting the word out about this...)
Posted by P. Scott Cummins at September 06, 2005
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1. that was eye opening. i wouldn't let something like the Kerry Sticker stop me.
A lot of those people need professional psychological help. Especially the poor confused DemGurl. Scary. They are so off the deep end politically that they let it get in the way of human decency.
It would be intersting to know if these people would feel and act the same way if the Puget Sound area had a real disaster. I can see it now: Food, water and shelter; conservatives not welcome.
3. I can't help but feel sorry for the blinding rage of some of those people. If they can't see past their ideology I wonder why they feel that they are the best hope for this country? Do they wonder why more moderate liberals, centrists, and libertarians cringe when these people open their mouths?
4. I'll tell you what I find interesting about Liberals, some don't even know when it's time to take down their Kerry Signs. Like He is going to come back riding a white horse to victory....ha ha! Not in my lifetime!
What struck me about the message and the follow on posts was the sheer hatred and uncivilized attitudes of these people.
To be honest, it scared the hell out of me to know that there are so many people like that.
Sick,,,, Sick,,,,,, Sick
6. This does not surprise me. I have been listening to this all weekend. Reading everything I can find, watching FOX and CNN. These people are desperate and these people are delusional. They will lash out anyway they can. I consider the source (delusional democrats) and go from there.
7. Well aren't they a bunch of sore losers. This is the bunch that says W ought to be reaching across the aisle and .....
I say he ought to reach across the aisle as slap their silly a$$es. A person that won't stop to help a mother and child for a W sticker also wouldn't stop to help if they had an NRA sticker or Pro Life sticker. Don't give me that crap is was the W sticker.
Hmm, that seems rather intolerant of her doesn't it?
8. About that comment "liberal mindset". That's assuming they have a mind. Their mind went up in smoke so to speak judging by the way they express themselves.
9. I suspect its a half-truth. She wouldn't have stopped for anyone, she was just trolling for applause from the moonbats. Dems don't beleive in helping others, thats the governments job.
10. Wow! All that hatred is really frightening. I don't feel hate for Gore or Kerry, or Hilary Clinton, or Bill, for that matter. Politics should never be quite that serious. It's perennial, and a good thing, too. It would be REALLY boring if we all thought the same. However, the posts were really freaky, and I think the MSM has a lot to do with the fueling of it. Shouldn't matter if the person is a liberal or conservative, if they need help, help should be provided. And they want bi-partisanship? That's some reaching out!
Scary thing for me is I have sister-in-law who very easily could have been DemGurl. She is constantly angry and fails to understand why others aren't as angry as she is. She truly takes to heart the old bumber sticker that says "If you aren't outraged, you aren't paying attention."
Only problem is she is outraged, and she clearly isn't paying attention.
I just can't understand why some people want to live their lives being so angry all the time. And they call us uncompassionate. The hypocricy of it is maddening because it is so obvious. DemGurl refused to help a fellow citizen in need, a mother with a child in hand even, because she glimpsed a bumber sticker and within an instant made a complete value judgement about that person. Yet she has no idea if that person really feels that way, or if it was he husbands sticker, or if the van was borrowed from a friend. And even if it was here sticker, does that make her any less worthy of help? Isn't that the same sort of thing that the fanatical libs have been accusing the Federal Goverenment of during the Katrina recovery?
I can't help but wonder if that group would have the same mindset had it been their car, or their wife and child standed on the side of the road.
Would they have refused my help upon seeing my Dubya oval or "dont blame me I voted for Rossi" bumper sticker?
I don't care if you have green peace, save tibet or No Iraq war on your car. If a woman is stranded on the road she, like many others in the past, will get my help. I pray that would be the case for my wife and daughter.
Sad when they can't see past their politics to remember we are all human.
Yikes....after reading that post, it makes our comments here at soundpolitics seem downright tame and civilized. Even at the height of our anger over a stolen election and criminal election fraud, you didn't see that level of hatred here.
Some of those statements..."W supporters are less than human", "murderers", etc...are way over the top. And what's even scarier is that it's the crazed people who are filled with rage who do things like commit vote fraud, break into GOP offices, and break laws to further their cause. They rationalize and justify their actions because they're stopping a murderer, or their opponents are less than human...from their twisted point of view.
Watch out folks, angry losers do bad, bad things!
pzzd-off at the world is my take on it; why? who knows; who cares; like the varied rages and passions of a hot-headed teen; some grow up, some dont;
as libs get kicked around by life and have their hard earned money taken for the deadbeats, hopefully the light bulb will go off;
usually it takes a pop in the nose of reality--they becoming a victim of those deadbeats for whom they rally or with whom they run;
as long as they stay out of my way, all's well; pull a WTO on us, and things will go awry for their cranial enclosures;
And for insight into the right-wingnut mindset just stick around these parts. You'd hardly know a major U.S. city and long coastline was devastated by a massive storm, followed by flooding, and criminal mismanagement of emergency help from the top on down.
Yes, yes... this is a blog about politics in the Puget Sound - except we're all affected by this tragedy.
Then again, you guys show more concern for people in The Ukraine than for your fellow man along the Gulf Coast.
Daniel, you're just a sniping liberal puke. Don't you DARE preach to me about compassion. I spend my working hours saving the lives of a**holes like you, knowing all the while that if they knew I was a conservative, they wouldn't urinate on me if I was on fire.
Well, screw you.
I can point you to countless other web sites that are very specific in what they address that also have not posted much, if anything, about the tragedy unfolding on the Gulf Coast. Does that make them calous and uncaring? Of course not. What more can Sound Politics do that isn't already being done in the wall-to-wall coverage by the major news sites?
Nice try attempting to create blame and guilt where there is none. Why is it that Liberals always need to point fingers and blame someone? How about helping now, and complaining later? This thing is still unfolding and already the Dems in Congress want a witch hunt to lay blame on someone, as if anyone is to blame for a hurricane.
For those of you who have been lucky enough to not know about liberal leftist websites like the DU (Democratic Underground).....these people are evil! They are definitely at or above cult status! They cheered at Reagans death and his long suffering...They blame everything wrong in the universe on Bush or any Republican. On my other board - we used to ban their members when ever they'd try to sneak in...and we would use their topics as examples of what NOT to post!
The liberal's are a genuine cult now and it is inconceivable that they have so many members! You can see in Demgurl's post - how she is looking to the cult for assurance of her actions. These people are living from a script! It's burnt into their brains and it always contradicts itself! The liberal's claim they want humanity and civility and peace - yet they act like absolute animals when confronted with the letter W......? They are violent and petty and lawless...sort of like the gangs in the Superdome - who's actions Demgurl blamed on Bush!
My advice is to never visit that website again..and definitely DO NOT try to post there! They are not worth the viruses!
Hey, Special K, wanna try that again? Just because everyone else is covering this story does not mean Stefan and the SP Crew has to.
My response to Daniel "Special Ed" K is borrowed from the great Joe Pyne:
"Go gargle with razor blades"
I was thinking ... I, and most people on the right, have a pretty solid religious background, even if they are not today religious. They are used to "loving the sinner, but hating the sin." Being able to differentiate between a person and what they believe, or even do.
Many -- though certainly not all! -- on the left have no real experience (or, at least, far less) with this sort of distinction. Maybe that's why it is harder for them?
Maybe that also partially explains the general intolerance of the so-called "liberal" mindset? They have a (literally) religious belief system, but no real religious training or framework that dictates to them how to act appropriately, including in how to act toward "unbelievers."
Not that those on the right are immune. Far from it. But it is far less pervasive in my experience, which is considerable: most of the people I know from growing up, going to school, and in working with the GOP are far right, whereas most of the people I know at work and in social situations are far left. It's quite the polarizing existence I lead. And while I run into the person on the right who ascribes ill intention and will toward those on the left, it is by far the exception, and not the rule. With those on the left, it is if not THE rule, common enough to be unavoidable on a daily basis.
So sad and kinda scary, these people think they are so enlightened when in truth they are pathetically ignorant and perpetually angry.
If we were to follow their whacko reasoning, forward teams would have been sent to the hurrican area to determine who needed help based on race, political affiliation, sexual orientation, and income level. Wouldn't that be a sad and disgusting effort, we would STILL be attempting to determine who was disenfranchised enough to deserve rescuing.
It is overwhelmingly clear that Americans want to help ALL of their fellow Americans in their time of need. It is well past time that the country stood up and called these people exactly what they are BIGOTS.
A lib sent this to me who obviously is blinded by the light. Proof that liberalism is a "Cult" but what can we call that grand wizard Moore?
Subject: Michael Moore's letter to the President
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:42:10 -0700 (PDT)
Friday, September 2nd, 2005
Dear Mr. Bush:
Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of
Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans
and need to be
airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all
choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost
my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.
Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers
are? We could
really use them right now for the type of thing they
signed up to do
like helping with national disasters. How come they
weren't there to
Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside
while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my
head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty
nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were
still homes without power. That night the weatherman
said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That
was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't
want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you
don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers
to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and
smear. You sure showed her!
I especially like how, the day after the hurricane,
instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego
to party with your business peeps. Don't let people
criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was
over and what the heck could you do, put your finger
in the dike?
And don't listen to those who, in the coming days,
will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army
Corps of Engineers' budget for New
Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You
just tell them
that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those
weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them
anyway because you had a much more important
construction job for them -- BUILDING
DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I
have to say I
was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot
descend from the
clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch
a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't
stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and
act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.
There will be those who will try to politicize this
tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your
people keep pointing that out.
Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who
would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico
is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this
inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming
Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a
hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one
F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.
No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your
fault that 30
percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens
of thousands had no transportation to get out of town.
C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this
happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving
white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make
me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with
You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of
helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of
New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.
Obviously satire isn't "mr" Moore's forte....
I am just loving the leftist meltdown. "Hey! You there! Don't just go around doing something, stand here and help me complain!"
What a joke. I point out the Sound Politics is in its own little bubble, oblivious to the world around it and I get the following responses:
- "you're just a sniping liberal puke... screw you"
- "Nice try attempting to create blame and guilt where there is none. Why is it that Liberals always need to point fingers and blame someone? How about helping now, and complaining later?"
- "Go gargle with razor blades"
dl said it best: So sad and kinda scary, you people think you are so enlightened when in truth you are pathetically ignorant and perpetually angry.
Oh, and pudge, what's the matter? Afraid that we're going to make someone cry by saying they've been a bad FEMA head? Boo f*ing hoo!
You guys are just so adrift in your own righteousness. Might as well stay in your bubble. We're all better off if you do.
No Denial K, you trollish maroon, the point is that this thread isn't about hurricane Katrina. While I recognize that degenerates like you have difficulties concentrating (as well as obvious impulse control), you're just going to have to try to keep up...(or maybe make it easier on yourself and just go back to your bong)
These lib folks are angry and lost. Their religion, secular humanism, doesn't seem to be providing the guidence and contentment that the Jewish, Christian, Buddhist...faiths can provide. Granted, I'm not the most religious among us, but my family and I can take comfort knowing that there is so much more to our existance than what secularism offers. With our beliefs, comes a certain amount of happiness and faith in fellow man. Looking for the positive rather than seeking the negative.
Imagine coming home to someone like Demgurl after a tough day of work. All that anger and tension - how could anyone keep from becoming a nuttcase.
27. Daniel, this topic is about the liberal mindset. Which by all accounts and examples show that the liberal mind is only about half a thread on from becoming separated from the body and bouncing on the floor.
Should libs ever look at facts and "cause/effect" elements, they'd get out of the emotional driven responses that become their motto for the day. This started about a lib seeing a W sticker and applying her charity according to her emotional state of mind.
Yup, no random act of kindness from the libs when it comes to "diversity".
Remember "a mind is a terrible thing to waste" so libs don't use their minds soundly!
"You guys are just so adrift in your own righteousness. Might as well stay in your bubble. We're all better off if you do."
More gum-flapping from a DU Warrior. When you guys STFU and actually DO something about this horrible, horrible place McChimpyBushitlerstein created, then I'll pay attention. Until then, sod off swampy.
Their rantings aren't scrary, folks. Just a lot of threats safely hidden behind the keyboards.
"the point is that this thread isn't about hurricane Katrina"
Exactly! The point is that not one thread at Sound Politics has been. WAKE UP PEOPLE!
"this topic is about the liberal mindset"
You cannot judge the "liberal mindset" without looking at your own right-wingnuttery.
Why is it that no one blames the mayor of NO, or the governor of LA. Could it be that they are dems? Why didn't they follow their evacuation plan? Why didn't they use all the government busses to evacuate people. The feds declared a state of emergency for NO BEFORE Katrina hit. Why didn't the local officials respond? Why is no one upset with the mayor when the New Orleans Times-Picayune earlier this summer reported that Mayor Nagin and other city officials were warning "the poorest of New Orleans' poor" that if a hurricane hits, "you're on your own."
Is that the compassion that dems like paying their local government for? What is local government for (other than taxing the rich and coming up with big expensive projects) if not to assist the citizens. If an rep had said something like that we would be hearing "only care about the rich" and "the party of the rich" etc. etc.
With libs blame always squarely lies with the first rep in the chain of command.
Deborah @ 12:11 a.m.
That goes for one of the ringleaders at HA who did and got his minions to gloat over a serious condition that Falwell was going through several months ago. I believe it was a stroke and it was touch and go.
Only time I go there is when sp or orbusmax have something they believe should be read.
32. Denial K, you're off the map...have you been scratching your hemorrhoids with a cheese grater again?
Excuse me--Excuse me gentlemen--Home Training! did we all forget so soon? Daniel K lit a fire; one of those burning-rubber-tire threads of rage--phew!
that face in the picture by the poster reminds me of your kind--grinny, tattler kid with no friends on the playground; now out for vengance using the "post-traumatic school yard rage" diagnosis in the liberal psych health manual;
the left rants in blogs; the right rants in blogs--so what; pick your poison & grow up; 50% of people in life will always disagree with you; make your points and take your lumps; opponents respect good fighters and sucker-punchers get their due;
34. You're right Jimmie...I apologize to anyone who sincerely suffers from painful rectal afflictions (unlike Denial K, who is just an inflamed sphincter...
35. Help me understand. The Mayor of NO is a Democratic Liberal, as is the Governor. Thousands of buses are parked, useless, less than a mile away from the superdome as the flood water rise. Food and water are not available in the Superdome where thousands of people are directed. The emergency plans are not put into effect. Looters are rampaging and shooting at rescue copters. Of course the President is responsible. Help me understand who is in a bubble. It appears that the Mayor and Governor clearly failed to provide sound management and leadership during a time of crisis. Of course the President is responsible for their failures as the second responders waited days for permission from the State to enter the floundering city with food, water and medical help. And when permission was finally given by the Governor, the water rose 8 feet and passage was rather difficult. As the facts are made public it will become clearer who failed whom and who let people die in the streets. The Mayor and Governor were caught like deer in headlights and failed miserably to carry out their job. But of course that is the President's fault. Isn't it.
36. Makes me want to go buy a W sticker.
Ironic, I'm one of the so called evil conservatives that doesn't care about people, yet I've donated money and goods to the Red Cross and my church to help out the people in New Orleans without a thought as to whether they're Republicans or Democrats. She's an enlightened liberal that "cares" about people, yet she's unwilling to help someone in need because they disagree with her on politics.
And the libs say that we're the ones that are cold, heartless, and dividing the country?
38. Go Darth...you hit the nail on the head.
"Count every vote, and keep counting until a liberal, socialist, or democrat wins."
Doesn't that sum-up perfectly the liberal, anti-democratic attitude of the Peoples' Socialist Republic of King county?
40. Daniel K: huh? What are you talking about? I just pointed out the entirely obvious fact that many people on the left are absolutely incapable with recognizing that people they disagree with aren't necessarily evil or deserving of spite, and I tried to come up with a possible reason why. You're the one who's crying, not me ...
I read your posts and wondered just who in the left is doing anything. You do know that the various blogs are raising money for New Orleans, don't you? BTW, the right wing blogs as of last night had raised over 1.25 million dollars and the left wing blogs had raised 163 thousand dollars to help out in New Orleans. The organizations that are working so hard for the people in New Orleans are mostly religious organizations, conservative ones. Where are the liberals there? From what I have seen all they are doing is complaining about the government not doing enough. The problem is that the United States is set up for the person to bear primary responsibility for himself. When he does not take responsibility or cannot, then the aid steps in. The government is to fill in on what cannot be done any other way. Where are the liberals in all this? Bitching and complaining. How very useful of them. Whatever would we do without them out there complaining.
That damn Bush! He *didn't* act like a facist banana-republic dictator and pull rank on the LA governor. If only he hadn't abided by the role alloted to him by constitution of the US, why, thousands of lives could have been saved!
Here's another post from that oh-so-enlightened thread..."Please put "Free Republic" bumper stickers on your car. That way, if I ever personally see one of you in a situation like this, I can swerve to hit you. I wouldn't care if you are holding a baby or not, you poison everything you touch and are not worthy of the air you breathe.
You are sick, sick, evil people and you deserve whatever the hell happens to you. You are right about one thing, though, I have no compassion. At least not for your kind. All my compassion is being spent on the HUMANS (something you are not) your kind have purposefully set out to maim, kill, and destroy. Everything has its limits, even compassion. You reap what you sow. Enjoy your harvest."