September 06, 2005
Another Double Voter

I spent a good part of the day looking at last November's absentee ballot envelopes trying to figure out what might have caused King County to count roughly 1,000 more absentee ballots than absentee voters. (i.e. a good part of what Dean Logan should have directed his own staff to do even before certification, but didn't) Thanks to Doug T. for his efforts as well! We're still crunching through the data, but here's one small piece of the puzzle solved -- This voter sent in two ballots, one signed on 10/30, the other on 11/1 and they both came back in the same batch and both appear to have been counted!

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at September 06, 2005 05:53 PM | Email This
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1. So much for their soothing myth that "the machines" will catch any voter who has already had one ballot counted.

Posted by: cur on September 6, 2005 06:04 PM
2. Maybe Mr. Key was just following the instructions at the top: "NOTICE: This voted ballot must be returned...."

And, I suppose he got tired of reading before he got to the part where he swore he hadn't voted any other ballot in that election.

Good point, "cur." Their computer system supposedly would prevent counting more than one ballot from the same voter -- unless the people doing the verification just don't bother doing their jobs correctly. The computer can't reach out and grab a ballot envelope from the hands of a dishonest person. (Hmmm. Is there a way to get it to send a shock through the keyboard or mouse?)

Posted by: Micajah on September 6, 2005 06:27 PM
3. Reed has issued new WACs that allow provisional ballots and re-issued absentee ballots to be canvassed in parallel with absentee ballots. This conflicts with the code that requires absentee ballots be counted before provisional or re-issued absentee ballots are canvasses. He says that his rule meets the intent of the statute. This double vote is an example of why it doesn't work and what we can expect in spades in future elections.

Posted by: Bob Edelman on September 6, 2005 06:29 PM
4. Stefan:

Was Key one of the 600 or so voters whose names appeared twice on the first list of voters credited with voting in King County in the general election?

I think the computer system should have created something with a name like "WANDA errors report" for each batch--noting things like more than one ballot from a voter. Have you checked the report for this batch?

Posted by: Micajah on September 6, 2005 06:47 PM
5. Will Key be held accountable for his actions:). Ha ha! I know, he has a short term memory problem and is therefore not guilty.

Posted by: Fed UP on September 6, 2005 06:58 PM
6. Was Mr. Key even alive on November 1st?

Posted by: huckleberry on September 6, 2005 07:04 PM
7. Fed UP:

Only the grannies trying to honor their spouse's dying wishes have be prosecuted. All others get a pass on this one.

Posted by: batu songvigone on September 6, 2005 08:07 PM
8. If this is how the 1000+ extra absentee ballots got cast, the thing that really ticks me off is that this is another error in the system that a legal team in an election challenge, with minimal resources, would not be able to take the time, money and person-power (very pc), to investigate.

Not only do we have an impossible standard to meet in an election contest, we now have holes in the system that are all most impossible to find.

Not a one of the clowns in Olympia will do anything to clean up this problem either. And why should they, the system is good enough to get them elected, right?

Posted by: T.J. on September 6, 2005 08:18 PM
9. I checked the Jan. 7 voter file that had the duplicate records. The double voter whose ballots are in the photo was NOT one of the duplicate records. He was listed in the Jan. 7 file only once.

Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on September 6, 2005 08:30 PM
10. Interesting that the typeface for the voter's address is different in the two mailings. Were two different organizations printing the envelopes?

Posted by: Regret on September 6, 2005 09:15 PM
11. So What's Dean got to say about this one? This is absolutely amazing, and it just shows to what length these people will go to elect liberal idiots! Is Mayor Daley in town?

Posted by: GS on September 6, 2005 09:54 PM
12. Arn't each of these ballot envelopes bar coded differently and with a different "serial" number? I don't understand how they would cause an error if the system issued them. It was reported that some people received up to 4 ballots, and I think if returned, they would all count. If the workers can't spell and can't use the computer system, once they learn how to ignore the errors, what incentive is there to for them to reject a ballot just because the wanda error says that voter was already credited? Those workers are on a mission to count every ballot and register every voter. They don't care if the voters are dead, they don't care if the voters arn't citizens or are legal voters..........

This is so unacceptable, it is beyond ridiculous that this mess can't be fixed.

Posted by: sgmmac on September 6, 2005 10:15 PM
13. Regret,

Amazing the typeface observation. Do you think ballots are printed using different printing devices that would make the scan bar below the address and the other coded symbols above the address so different?

I wonder if we're looking at a forged ballot envelope that contained a forged ballot? It's just speculation, but if someone was trying to copy a ballot envelope and didn't have the same fonts, the result might be something that looks close, but quite different like these two envelopes.

They are just so different when you look at the non-text objects on the envelopes. Seems to warrant a closer look by an expert for an explanation to me. These ballots definitely came from different places and were addressed by different machines. Is that to be expected in King County?

Posted by: Mike on September 6, 2005 10:19 PM
14. The different typefaces is not a cause for alarm. Don't let yourselves become sidetracked by a portion of this situation that is a non-issue.

The subcontractor used for printing the absentee ballot return envelope addesses and barcodes has multiple ink-jet printer/feeder set ups depending upon the volume of the run. The huge initial run of absentees is printed on one type of very high-speed high-volume ink jet printer, and the subsequent smaller runs of additional requests, re-issues, etc., are printed on smaller printer equipment appropriate for the size of run.

The different typefaces simply indicate that the envelopes were not printed in the same data run.

The second ballot could have been an election office screw-up (a lot of ballots were mistakenly issued twice in 2004) or a legitimately re-issued ballot based upon a voter request. If you look carefully at the barcodes, you will note they are identical, as they should be for the same voter.

The problem is that the software did not catch the second voted ballot coming through, and it is supposed to. Apparently the initial sort, which is supposed to catch duplicates in the same batches failed, and then validation operator did not see the voter was already credited in that batch or at any other time.

Yet another problem with the "new and improved computer system" that our tax dollars were wasted upon last year.

Posted by: Susan B. Anthony on September 6, 2005 10:51 PM
15. Cloned votes; how nice; nice dates too--trick or treat, eh? "All-mail will bite us in the tail."

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on September 6, 2005 11:09 PM
16. I guess reconciling votes and voters really doesn't matter much when voters can register more than once....and vote more than once.
This is exactly the stuff that needs to be smoked out. I'll bet Eddie Key's handlers will dream up some exotic affliction Eddie has that caused this (like Early Alzheimer's----which is known to be caused by combining Prozac with Pot-smoking)!
The LEFTIST PINHEADS will all start a sobbing campaign for poor Eddie,,,will tag Stefan as a neo-con for pointing this out (as well as a racist) and of course blame it all on BUSH!!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on September 6, 2005 11:11 PM
17. I wonder if his wife, Theresa Holmes, also registered to vote at the address, voted more than once as well?

Posted by: Steven Pyeatt on September 6, 2005 11:17 PM
18. Most 46th legislative district residents voted for Ms. Gregoire, so my guess is Mr. Key voted twice for her. We'll have to see--I hope a reporter calls him up and asks how he voted for governor. Of course, he would have every incentive to lie about it.
He and the hundreds of felons and other illegal voters.

Posted by: Tim B. on September 7, 2005 12:32 AM
19. Let's hope Judge Bridges doesn't ask Edd Key how he voted, or Dino could have two more votes removed from his total!

Posted by: huckleberry on September 7, 2005 12:40 AM
20. Any chance there will be criminal charges against Mr Key?

Posted by: Grog on September 7, 2005 04:50 AM
21. Any chance there will be criminal charges against Mr Key?

Posted by: Grog on September 7, 2005 04:50 AM
22. How about some prosecutions as listed in the voters oath under which these are both signed: Felony, up to 5 years, and up to $10,000. That might get some of these people to clue in.

Posted by: Marmstro on September 7, 2005 05:55 AM
23. Picky, picky, picky...KC elections insists that adding bar codes to the provisional ballots will fix everything (despite several recommendations to change ballot color). Clearly this ballot is not what it appears, because everyone knows it's illegal to vote twice. Besides, KC spent alot of money on software, and Mr. Logan is an incredibly compititent manager; Ron Sims told us so.

If Mr. Key voted twice, it was probably an accident. To prosecute him for violating the law would be mean...and mean people suck.

Posted by: dl on September 7, 2005 08:53 AM
24. Oops...competent, Dean Logan is a competent manager. Too bad he is unfamiliar with election laws.

Posted by: dl on September 7, 2005 08:59 AM
25. Edd Key also lives at
916 49th st (same phone number)so did he vote more than twice?

Posted by: Wayne on September 7, 2005 09:05 AM
26. Why is Key not in jail?

Posted by: Brad on September 22, 2005 01:19 PM
27. Maybe this is how the Liberals get their vote counted. My voice is worth two of yours. Because I am smarter. I know more than you. Also notice this was in an area that is mostly democratic vote anyway. A few dups (3000-4000) won't affect any election. Right. THis way the elites will have their way because there voice really got heard.

Posted by: david anfinrud on September 22, 2005 03:50 PM
28. On the same block as Mr. Key, two voters from the same house voted (one in person, one absentee):

Jordan, Karen M
Jordan, Karen Marie

Maybe it's a mother / daughter living at the same house.

Accross the street from Mr. Key, there are two voters at the same residence listed as:
Bolos, Lisa P
Mudd, Lisa P

The house is owned by Ms. Mudd. Coincidence that both the first name and middle initial are the same?

Also, the duplicates above show up in the Sound Politics Voter Database.

A little neighborhood activisism maybe?

Posted by: Mike on September 22, 2005 04:40 PM
29. Hmmm, 5 houses north of Mr. Key this person is listed twice in the database:
Shields, T Bragdon

Lange, Janet E also voted at this residence. Both Lange and Shields are listed as the homeowners.

In all three cases I've listed the second registration happened in 2004.

If a two entries means two votes, then there are quite a few same name folks living on this block.

Am I reading the database wrong?

Posted by: Mike on September 22, 2005 04:50 PM
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