August 24, 2005
Greg Nickels helps I-912 campaign

Today's Seattle Times editorial says that support for I-912 might be softening "One for the roads". Indeed, even though polls indicate that a commanding margin of voters wants to repeal the gas tax, we shouldn't fall into complacency. Those of us who support I-912 should keep working to get the message out.

On the other hand, today's op-ed by Seattle's fiscally incontient Mayor Greg Nickels, who opposes I-912, ironically will only help the I-912 campaign: In "Seattle shouldn't repeat its viaduct mistake". Yet again, Nickels boldly goes where he's been many times before, insisting on spending limitless amounts of money on every unnecessary transportation boondoggle imaginable. Voting YES on I-912 and repealing the gas tax is an effective way for voters to just say no to Nickels' fiscally irresponsible excess.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at August 24, 2005 02:31 PM | Email This
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1. You have me confused now. I have seen someone with your handle (and it may not be you) state that you were voting against I-912. It seemed you were able to get past the arrogance of the legislature and Gregoire when they called it an emergency (a deal killer for me) when there was none. You or your unauthorized clone was also able to get over the lack of accountability of the gas tax money.

I am voting for I-912 on principles noted above, but I also believe we need more money to do the building.

Posted by: swatter on August 24, 2005 03:07 PM
2. Take a look at the Nichels article and you will see a prime example of why I have come to regard ‘we’ as one of my least favorite words. Every one who wants something on someone else’s dime or through someone else’s effort will bandy about that word along with ‘they’ and ‘us’. Basically when I see these three words ‘red flags go up’ and I pay very close attention to just exactly what is being said and react accordingly.

Posted by: JDH on August 24, 2005 03:19 PM
3. 'we' is used 20 times in a relatively short article. Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

Posted by: JDH on August 24, 2005 03:20 PM
4. "We have a decision to make. But it isn't between a tunnel and double-decker highway on the shores of Elliott Bay. It is whether we follow the example of previous generations who dreamed of a wonderful city and then built toward it, or listen to the chorus of "can'ts."

The mayor needs a new cell phone because he still can't hear us.

I don't hear a chorus of "can'ts" I hear and am saying don't sell me a half baked project with open ended funding.

Sell me a complete project, with construction schedules, deadlines, and cost breakdowns. Show me fiscal responsibility, accountability, then we will talk about it.

Till then "Hell No."

Posted by: JCM on August 24, 2005 03:27 PM
5. Makes me laugh. Such a sad effort to rouse the public with his conception of stirring language. As if those who oppose bigger, more corrupt government of waste and inefficiency are the flag bearers of negativity. So c'mon, folks, let’s open our wallets one more time and give it up for Greg and his crew. Three cheers for the bureaucrats!

No wonder no one wants to run for mayor – who would aspire to be like Greg Nickels, a man of such small imagination and uninspired passion.

Posted by: newyorktransplant on August 24, 2005 03:38 PM
6. All he writes about is what Seattle must have in this "once-in-a-lifetime opportunity".

And who is this "we" he is talking about? Is he referring to the city of Seattle or the state of Washington. The gas tax increase was statewide.

My city of Sammamish is already an exporter of gas tax funds. I see no reason to send him more.

Use the existing gas tax money to actually shorten my commute and then we'll talk about increasing it.

Posted by: Mr. Grabbit on August 24, 2005 03:41 PM
7. "Replacing the unsafe viaduct with a tunnel..."

Is it just me, or wouldn't a tunnel under sea level (I assume) flood if a large enough earthquake hit?

So, the viaduct pancakes, or the tunnel floods? Not much choice.

I must be missing something and hopefully it's not my sanity.

Posted by: HappyGoLucky on August 24, 2005 04:13 PM
8. 40 years ago, Intersate 405 was 2 lanes... Today, Interstate 405 is still mostly 2 lanes. Where did my money go over these these 40 years? And now you want more money...for...a transport lane? Notta...

Posted by: Ted Bundy on August 24, 2005 04:46 PM
9. O.K. so my neighbor decides years ago to pannel his living room with that hidious 1970's era panneling. He makes the case that we need to upgrade. Am I part of the 'we' that is expected to share in the bill? If so 'we' aint gonna be to accomodating.

The case that there is a 'we' here could be advanced in as much as the viaduct benefits the State as a whole, however any obligation 'we' may have most certainly ends at the point that the utilitarian aspects are met and any enhancments that go beyond providing a safe and cater to the State's transportation NEEDS and are Seattle's responsibility. "We' have no responsibility to turn Seattle's waterfront into a park and any contribution to such should be strictly voluntary.

Posted by: JDH on August 24, 2005 05:47 PM
10. Unsafe Viaduct says the spender. Well close it.Says we. The point is that Nickels and company are not selling capacity, Nickels and company are selling safety and of course a clear view. The gas tax has little to do with transportation. It has a lot to do with make work. There are estimates to retrofit the existing viaduct, (make it safe) for less than $500 Million. Won't change anything at all, just make it safe. Obviously that is not good enough for Nickels and company. And it sure won't do anything for the seawall. Boston got a tunnel and we sure the hell will get one also. Historically Seattle and Wash ignore the voters and do what they must to bring in the make work. Just look at the stadiums that the voters rejected. I-912 will not stop the will of Nickels and company. They don't give a flying brick what the voters have to say. Why Nickels is running unopposed. Democracy at work in Sim's turf.

Posted by: snuffy on August 24, 2005 07:10 PM
11. Wait,

Can't you see it now? A beaufitful utopia along the Bay, where we can run thru fields of flowers and lush grass singing songs of lore. Seattle the last great Commune.

Meanwhile they shut down more lanes...I-5 has been closed for new homeless studio's. Open air and TP for all.

Greg Nichols isn't even worth a red cent.

Posted by: Dengle on August 24, 2005 09:17 PM
12. That "once in a lifetime" statement means this....We dems lied our way into Olympia, raised the taxes to kingdom come using the emergency clause. Ya only get away with that stuff once in a lifetime.

Posted by: PC on August 24, 2005 09:38 PM
13. I really am not a fan of the Tunnel of Love that Mayor Nickels - Protector of Nipples wants because I have environmental concerns.

There are all sorts of living creatures down below street level that will be killed. A tunnel could do irreparable harm to their eco-system.

Have they done an environmental audit of his plan? When the dirt is removed are they going to transplant it in a suitable below ground location so that the algae and bacteria living in it can survive and thrive?

Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on August 25, 2005 12:47 AM
14. When I read this piece I got the feeling that Seattle's mayor was stuck in 1999. Remember the dot com boom? Everone who would spell html was going to be a millionaire and there was no reason to worry about silly stuff like budgets or even sales.

The mayor might take a lesson from one of the survivors of that era -- Amazon. As I understand it, one of their secrets was their frugality, as shown by the famous story of the
door desks.

(And the mayor should also take time to notice that Paul Allen has managed to lose money in almost every new business he has invested in.)

Posted by: Jim Miller on August 25, 2005 07:37 AM
15. So, he wants 4 billion of transportation $$$ to suit his widdle rehash of urban renewal for downtown, which won't add ANY capacity to the problem. What a brainiac.

Read my finger.

Posted by: Shaun on August 25, 2005 09:39 AM
16. "Commanding margin" in support of I-912??? Says who? I haven't seen any current polls that show that support for I-912 is anything approaching a "commanding margin." A link to a poll showing otherwise, sure would be interesting.

Posted by: David on August 25, 2005 09:58 AM
17. If the Viaduct is so dangerous, why is it still in use?

Mr Nickels want the entire state to pay for the new seawall that is need to support it as well as the rest of the water front.

He does not seem to get the fact that there is no solid plan for this project! Perhaps he should get his snoot out of the gin bottle long enough to look around and see facts that people are talking about.

What I have not heard is anyone raising the possiblity of funding the project via a toll road. Toll roads work very well in other parts of the country, why not here?

Posted by: Bud Kauffman on August 25, 2005 10:13 AM
18. Did everyone know that WSDOT and Seattle have already selected the tunnel alternative to replace the Viaduct? I kid you not! Here is straight out of WSDOT website (http://wsdot.wa.gov/projects/viaduct).

"WSDOT, the Federal Highway Administration and City of Seattle have selected the Tunnel Alternative to replace the Alaskan Way Viaduct following three years of environmental and engineering review, 76 initial concepts, over 200 community meetings and over 4,500 public comments."

This Nickels' piece is just a song and dance around an already-made decision.

Posted by: C. Oh on August 25, 2005 01:06 PM
19. If I am not mistaken WSDOT's big man came to us directly from the Big Dig.

Posted by: JDH on August 25, 2005 09:08 PM
20. Yes, we need to keep getting the word out to ensure I-912's passage. If we become complacent, then liberal, arrogant, morons like David Goldstein and Co. at horsesass.org, will try very hard to sway the vote the other direction. I got an email from I-912's website today, they are sponsoring an upcoming event just for this purpose. One can get t-shirts, stickers, yard signs, etc at www.nonewgastax.com Thanks.

Posted by: Mark1 on August 26, 2005 09:21 AM
21. I got one of those too and my family may go to it. Kirby Wilbur and Mike Seigel will be speaking at it.

Posted by: Laurie on August 27, 2005 09:04 AM
22. I have a simple question? Why should all of Washington fund what Seattle gets?

Posted by: Dave on October 14, 2005 04:24 PM
23. I have a simple question? Why should all of Washington fund what Seattle and its surrounding area gets the benefits of? If Seattle and the surrounding area wants all of this so bad you all pay for it.

Posted by: Dave on October 14, 2005 04:26 PM
24. I have a simple question? Why should all of Washington fund what Seattle and its surrounding area gets the benefits of? If Seattle and the surrounding area wants all of this so bad you all pay for it.

Posted by: Dave on October 14, 2005 04:28 PM
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