August 19, 2005
"Every Vote Counts"

The National Council of State Legislatures, meeting in Seattle this week, today has an afternoon break-out session on elections titled "Every Vote Counts"

History is filled with examples of elections decided by a handful of votes, sometimes by one vote. In 2004, several races, including the Washington governor's race, were decided by a fraction of a percentage point. How can states be sure statutes are adequate when the lightning bolt of a one-vote race strikes?
Expert speaker: Dean Logan!

It's true. Under Dean Logan, every vote counts. Well, maybe not every vote.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at August 19, 2005 11:49 AM | Email This
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1. With Dean Logan As an "expert" speaker shouldn't it be named every Democrat vote counts?

Posted by: TrueSoldier on August 19, 2005 12:20 PM
2. Maybe Dean should have the name of that breakout session changed, to something like Every Vote Counts (Unless It's For A Republican), or Every Vote Counts, And Sometimes More Than Once (If It's For A Democrat), or Every Vote Counts, And Sometimes More Were Counted Than Voted (If It Helps A Democrat "Win"). Maybe Bridges can be a speaker at that session and comment on that, especially how you can rig things so that more votes total up for the candidates than were legally cast, and still endorse that as a valid election.

Posted by: Interested Observer on August 19, 2005 12:22 PM
3. Every vote, every mark on a ballot, every vote perceived as intent by the canvassing board.

Once again no mention of legal voters, legal ballots, legal certifications, accurate tallies or a clean election.

Dean "count 'em till our guy wins" Logan is the poster child for the "count every vote" crowd. He managed to count every vote plus a few extra and voila his gal won.

The fix starts with tossing Sims in Nov. There is no hope for a fix in KC or WA until the crowd currently "in" is "out."

Posted by: JCM on August 19, 2005 12:22 PM
4. No the fix starts at home with gettig rid of sam Reed or at least getting him to change his Party affiliation.

Posted by: JDH on August 19, 2005 12:31 PM
5. Why is it always, Every Vote Counts? Why don't these people get it? It's every legal vote counts and from there every legal vote that is a vote. If dumbass voter checks everyone then that vote doesn't get counted by rule. Oh wait, rules those get in the way of Dean, transparent as concrete, Logan. Though I beginning to think he's just so inept that he really doesn't know he doesn't know.

Posted by: Dengle on August 19, 2005 01:12 PM
6. With KC Elections it should be called "Only Democrat Votes are Counted". Their slogan could be "We censor our votes more that David Goldstien censors his posters on his blog."

Posted by: pbj on August 19, 2005 01:14 PM
7. Shameless, the whole lot of them!

Posted by: lksimstrailgrammy on August 19, 2005 01:15 PM
8. Logan ought to call his lecture, "Counting the votes you want to count" ... and finding a way in the statute to get away with it.

Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on August 19, 2005 01:50 PM
9. Doesn't the NCSL know that Dean Logan is under fire for contributing to one of the nation's biggest election messes in recent memory? Or are they well-aware of Deano's ineptitude and are taking this opportunity to lend him some credibility by calling him an "expert" and having him speak at their annual meeting?

I kinda wonder what Bill Gates, one of the faces of this year's annual meeting, thinks about this whole mess.

Posted by: Gary on August 19, 2005 02:21 PM
10. I hope the Dems are breeding a candidate to take Sam Reed out. I would love to send some money his/her way.

Posted by: Blair on August 19, 2005 03:34 PM
11. It's absolutely amazing how they will feature a guy who is the model for how NOT to do something as their star.

Some of these government types are so messed up, they don't even realize how 'off' they are!

Posted by: Realist on August 19, 2005 04:34 PM
12. Shouldn't it be titled: "every vote counted, then recounts, unitl we win-valid or not" if that incomptent ass Dean Logan is running it?

Posted by: Mark1 on August 19, 2005 09:12 PM
13. I think It si time to Clean up this mess courtesy of David Irons in a landslide victory or be ready for more of the same!

Posted by: Laurie on August 20, 2005 08:33 AM
14. Since I was the moderator of the NCSL session in question, I thought I'd explain a couple of things.

The name of the session was picked by NCSL staff months ago. It was picked before the speakers were known. None of the speakers nor I were involved in picking the name (I wasn't asked to be the moderator until about a month before the conference). NCSL staff pick these "concurrent sessions" by brainstorming on what issues are "hot" (and nobody can deny this one is!) and then the NCSL executive committee chooses the best of those to present at the conference.

The point of the session was actually not well represented by the title (the title was unfortunate, and I didn't use it or address it at all in my remarks). If you read the subtext, you saw that the session was intended to address close elections, and to hear from people who had been involved in the most recent and infamous close election in the country. They weren't picked so much for "expertise" as for having been in the middle of the mess.

The speakers, in addition to myself (as moderator) and Dean Logan, were Secretary of State Sam Reed and Pierce County Auditor Pat McCarthy. Each of us spoke for about 10-15 minutes on our personal experiences surrounding last November's election (and I'd be happy to share my remarks with you all if Stefan wants to post them). We then took questions from the audience.

Most of those in the audience (of about 80 people) were out-of-state legislators or legislative staff, plus a few local media people such as Bernard Choi (KING-5 TV) and Ken Voegel (TNT). Bob Williams of Evergreen Freedom Foundation was also there, and he took the opportunity to ask a very tough question of Dean Logan.

Most of the out-of-state folks were interested in what measures Washington had taken to prevent such a disaster from happening again. We talked about the eleven election-related bills passed by the legislature during the 2005 session (and I made the point that many of our key proposed reforms were NOT enacted), and work remaining to be done (I made the point that our election contest statute, written mostly in 1881, is obsolete and doesn't adequately address today's technology and circumstances). Many of them left me their cards, asking to receive my summary of the legislation passed and not passed.

I received favorable comments afterward about the session; most of those in attendance seemed to think they had received useful information. The session wasn't intended to be a "Roast Sam and Dean" session nor a press conference; it probably would have been unsatisfying to most Sound Politics readers for not being used as more of an opportunity to raise tough issues and call people to account for serious mistakes. But that's about what you'd expect in a conference by legislators and for legislators (and staff).

Posted by: Rep. Toby Nixon on August 21, 2005 07:20 PM
15. Rep Toby Nixon,

Can you please share what the tough question was and the response by Logan?

Thanks!

Please keep slogging for more election reform. We also need our right to vote at the polls back, thanks!

Posted by: sgmmac on August 21, 2005 09:09 PM
16. Well, Mr. Nixon, let me say, with respect, that it sounds like yet another case of all show and no go. As we say in the blogsphere, same (stuff), different day. Until there is a majority in power (and thus in a position to make a difference), I don't think things are going to change (for the better) in WA state. JMO, you understand.

Posted by: Interested Observer on August 22, 2005 07:05 AM
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