August 18, 2005
Monorail Deathwatch

Yet another report reveals that the Monorail is hopelessly munted: "Shortened monorail route may not save enough". Nevertheless, the Monorail Board has hired an expensive messiah to try to postpone the inevitable: "Transportation pro to lead monorail temporarily" -- at a cost of only $38,400 a month.

Stop the insanity! Just shut the thing down all ready. And vote for Jim Nobles for Monorail Board

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at August 18, 2005 10:40 AM | Email This
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1. Oh I am sure that according to Pee Wee Goldstein 40 grand a month is a bargain! What a goober.

Posted by: pbj on August 18, 2005 10:52 AM
2. Wow, they boot a guy (Horn) making $187,000 per year and hire a guy at $38,400 per month or $460,800 per year? Why does it cost that much to get this thing shut down?

Un-freaking-believable!!!!!!!!!

My only consolation is that I live in Bellevue.

Posted by: C. Oh on August 18, 2005 10:58 AM
3. Actually, I think even Goldstein and most of the Democrats are on board on this one. That's the thing, anyone with half a brain can see that spending billions of dollars for a joy ride from Ballard to downtown does not make sense.

Even the Democrats who don't agree that we should fix our roads (no not by building an expensive tunnel to replace the Alaskan Way Viaduct) and remove HOV lanes, etc., would rather see this kind of money spent on mass transit that actually goes somewhere, like the I-5, I-90, or other important cooridors, etc.

Let's kill this damn Disney ride already. Sheesh.

Posted by: Jeff B. on August 18, 2005 11:01 AM
4. It is conforting to know the Tooth Fairy AND the Easter Bunny are alive and well in Seattle. I think the revamped Monorail should stop at each of the topless dance joints as well as City Hall-this will finally make the project sensible to the Mayor, City Council, JP Patches and No Mo...

Posted by: THS on August 18, 2005 11:28 AM
5. How about a shortened line that goes from Seattle Center to the Nordstroms downtown?

Mark D

Posted by: Mark D on August 18, 2005 11:39 AM
6. Yep, there's wisdom in knowing when to throw in the towel. I have to admit, it would be cool to have an elevated system running along I-5, 405, and through downtown Seattle & Bellevue, similar to BART in the Bay Area. But only if it's in some alternate reality where I wouldn't have to pay for it. Or in an even more ridiculous reality where the project is actually planned well.

Posted by: Snohomey on August 18, 2005 11:43 AM
7. Now, now. I'm sure this consultant was hired to do something important. The employees of the silly-rail do important things, like buy buildings and do environmental impact studies. Someone needs to make sure this continues unabated.

Plus, they have responsibility for the existing 1 mile monorail. This system is running far too efficiently and is not costing the city enough. Why, take a look at the trolley car if you want to see a real money hole. The existing little monorail should emulate that!

Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on August 18, 2005 11:52 AM
8. Just how long is this boondoggle going to continue before it is finally mercifully killed? Every day that goes by, more and more tax dollars are being spent on a project so messed up that the only rational response is to shut it down now. No more studies, no more scaled-down service, no more expensive outside consultants. Quit trying to "Savethe Monoail" and your high salary jobs.

Posted by: Gary on August 18, 2005 11:56 AM
9. Anyone else here ever been to a store parking lot? Ever had to wait behind car A that is waiting for someone else to unload their bags into car B and pull out so they can park car A in that "good" parking spot while only 15 feet farther from the store entrence about 50 empty spots are available? I know I have...every time I go to a retail establishment.

This is a big reason why busses are empty, Light Rail is barely used, and the monorail (if built) will never work. Aside from every other inconvenience, many people are just unwilling to walk farther than they have to. This is as true for parking lots as it is for bus/train/monorial stations.

Posted by: Mark D on August 18, 2005 12:06 PM
10. Mark, what about in 20 years when the population doubles within the same area?

I can't see a doubling of population but that is the reason the planners are planning for these mass transit 'white elephants'. They are seeing the day in the far, far distant future where mass transit makes sense for us.

Posted by: swatter on August 18, 2005 12:17 PM
11. Who the HE*L makes $40K a month??? For what??? I mean...I could halfway understand if they were a CEO or something but a consultant? What the heck? They'd better be working 24 hours a day. Sheesh. What a waste.

Posted by: megs on August 18, 2005 12:43 PM
12. Who does this guy think he is? A baseball player????

I called a buddy who is working on a light rail thing in another state. He was incensed...largely because HE had thought about applying for it and decided not to. Three months' work and he'd make what he makes now for the year.

Geez...I bet Ballmer doesn't make that kind of green (not in salary, anyway)...

Posted by: SnoCo Voter on August 18, 2005 12:49 PM
13. Add double the car capacity. You can increase capacity on 405 by 50% tomorrow by opening the carpool lanes.

Demolish the convention center downtown and widen I-5.

Even with double the population, you aren't going to change the behavior of people at all. My point was that if people aren't willing to walk an extra 15 feet but are willing to wait an extra minute for someone else to pull out while they sit there...getting people to walk to a bus/monorail/trian station or from that station to where they need to be is a real up-hill battle.

1.)The busses we have now go much closer to peoples homes and much closer to where they need to be than either light-rail or the monorail would. There is plenty of excess capacity on the busses.

2.)Traffic on the roads and freeways is a disaster now.

3.)People still choose to drive themselves rather than ride the empty busses.

Posted by: Mark D on August 18, 2005 12:53 PM
14. $38K a month to kill a project? HOW DO I GET A GIG LIKE THAT?!?!? I bet it takes him all the way to the deadline to figure out it needs to die.

Posted by: Scott C on August 18, 2005 12:59 PM
15. Actually, it is even more money than $38,400. That would be based on a 160 hour month. There are actually 173.3 work hours in an average month. That brings the monthy salary to $41,592. And you can bet he is billing some expenses on top of that.

Forty-one thousand, five hundred ninety-two dollars! Unreal.

Ka-ching!

Posted by: Mr. Grabbit on August 18, 2005 01:32 PM
16. Since consultants usually don't live where they work, he will be commuting. So...

Airfare: $500 (probably doesn't use expedia.com or some other site to get the cheapest rate.)

Hotel: $600 ($150 a night X 4 nights) Unless he stays at Sea Tac Value Inn $47.80 a night. :)

Car: $169 - 314 per week (Full Size Car depending on rental agency)

Meals: $50 per diem (not sure what rate the agency sponcering him uses, so just a guess)

Misc.: Your guess.

This is per week. So add anywhere from $1000 to $1300 per week to the bill.

Your tax dollars at work! :)

Posted by: Tim R on August 18, 2005 03:19 PM
17. Haven't these idiots hired enough consultants already? Don't forget about Kevin Phelps, "Independent Financial Policy Analyst", recently hired for $20,000, plus they fully intend to hire two more "consultants" at the same rate; another $60,000 down the mono-hole. By the way, Mr Haley's firm, Booz A. Hamilton, is also on the Monorail payroll now with a "seperate consulting contract to provide other support services"...like what?? private banking consulting? Somebody please shut down their line of credit!

Posted by: john on August 18, 2005 04:04 PM
18. I just don't understand why this monorail is going to cost so much money?
They are only paying their workers 180,000 dollars, and consultants 38,000 per month. Someone should start a fund to help these poor disenfranchised under represented workers.
I am glad I am moving out of Seattle as soon as I am done with school. I can't imagine funding these morons any more.

A little over 200 years ago, a bunch of americans got together and started a war over taxation without representation.
"What the government makes is mandatory, what the citizens make is entirely negotiable"

Posted by: Jason Woodruff on August 18, 2005 07:39 PM
19. This all reminds me of that funny demotivational poster.

Consulting: If you're not part of the solution, there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem.

Posted by: Mr. Grabbit on August 19, 2005 08:22 AM
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