The Seattle Monorail Project Board is desparately trying to salvage itself with an "action plan". Rebid the contract? Merge with another agency? Build itself in "phases"? The Monorail's insane insistence to keep fighting for survival even if it has to be hacked to pieces reminds me of the Black Knight scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Even the Seattle Post-Intelligencer editorial board understands that the Monorail's game is over. Let's just cut to the chase and go with what was described as a "last resort" -- dissolve the agency.
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at July 20, 2005 10:33 AM | Email ThisSeattle Monorail Project officials and supporters are casting about for ways to "save" it. Their motives and faith are admirable, but their cause is lost.
Their motives are to line their pockets. You'd think the PI would have caught on to that by now, but...
And how dare the Monorail Board consider alternatives that might allow the people to have what they want. If only we had more Republican elites who could just ignore the people and govern us with there greater knowledge of what is good for us. Then we would have a truly perfect world.
Posted by: JDB on July 20, 2005 10:43 AMthe monorail was only a guise for holding a seat the tax payer trough.
Pigs get fat- hogs get slaughtered.
Posted by: Andy on July 20, 2005 10:49 AMDo you really think they voted for the price of this monorail? The price has soared and the service provided reduced even before the first shovel of dirt has been removed. The final costs, if this follows the typical public works program, will be far higher.
I do think it is a dangerous precedent going against what was voted on (I601, no gas tax, etc.), but what was voted for cannot be provided, according to the SMP. I do not think that Seattle voters said build this thing at any cost. It is the responsibility of the government (SMP) to ensure that they do as requested by the voters. If that is not possible, it should be confirmed with the voters by asking them to provide what is missing, in this case more funds, more time, or reduced service, or all of the above. Along with this an explanation of why they were so far off the first time and why they think the new proposal is accurate.
Out of curiosity, are you against the overriding of I601 and raising of the gas tax against the voters’ will as well? To have made the statements I would assume you are to be consistent.
Posted by: fred on July 20, 2005 11:15 AMBut the will of the people (the LAST time) cost less than $3billion. Is the "will of the people" worth nearly 4 times that, now??
Didn't think so.
Ever hear of a dirty selling tactic called "bait and switch"??
Here... I've got a house I'll sell you for 4x the asking price. Would you still buy it??
Posted by: Brian C. on July 20, 2005 11:17 AMPresuming that the adults do prevail in this, I’d strongly recommend that the Monorail Project and all it’s various progeny…legitimate and illegitimate alike…be taken to the closest spay/neuter clinic to prevent further outbreaks of this madness.
Oh, and in the employment files of certain noble fools, place the notation “not recommended for re-hire.”
The Board members serve as volunteers. They receive NO SALARY, and only a small stipend for their time spent at meetings/hearings/etc. -- which all of them do not take.
We supporters are not on any payroll, aren't solicting campaign contributions, and aren't currently in line to work for anyone benefitting from this Project.
The only ones looking to line their pockets are the ones who have opposed the Project every step of the way because they want $$$ for their Viaduct Tunnel and their light rail scam and their other pet projects.
Posted by: FoM Prez on July 20, 2005 12:10 PMPlease provide details on the specifications of the monorail program for which the citizens voted that can still be delivered.
Then please illustrate which of the specifications you listed above can be delivered on time and within budget.
What is on your final list? Which parts of the monorail for which the citizens voted can still be delivered that conform to specifications, are on time, and within budget?
Inquiring minds want to know. We await enlightment from the anti-elitist JDB.
Posted by: Larry on July 20, 2005 12:14 PMFeel free to jump in and answer my questions posed to JDB above.
And if you consider my wish to KEEP the money that I have earned, rather than paying taxes for a Disneyland ride, as wanting to 'line my pockets' - well you're absolutely correct.
I line my pockets with MY money. It's mine, and I'll try to keep your grubby hands out of my wallet every second of my life. That's MY PET PROJECT!!!
Posted by: Larry on July 20, 2005 12:18 PMAnd how dare the Monorail Board consider alternatives that might further subject the people to a shameless flim-flam. If only we had more democrap elites who could just STFU, we would have a truly perfect world."
There, I fixed the troll's post, which he had screwed up (just like everything he touches ;'}
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 20, 2005 12:32 PMWe didn't vote four times for a foot-in-the-door excuse to set up an unaccountable Board with ambitions for a project at any and all costs.
Nor for a token piece of construction this decade, followed by overpriced piece-by-piece additions "somewhat later" with all the repeats of political hassles and time-squandering hearings.
It was a fun idea under the original estimates, and cocked a snook at the malfeasance of the Sound Transit bait-and-switchers. Those estimates are long gone, and it's time to cock a snook at the unwillingness of the Board to acknowledge reality, forget about hiring any more $180,000 annual staffers, and fold up the tents.
Board, you've had your fifteen minutes. Now get a job and help pay off the $100,000,000 you've gotten us in the hole.
Posted by: Hank Bradley on July 20, 2005 12:55 PMThe Board members serve as volunteers. They receive NO SALARY, and only a small stipend for their time spent at meetings/hearings/etc. -- which all of them do not take.
I hope you're being sarcastic, otherwise I'd have to point out that Joel Horn 'volunteered' to take home $180k/year.
Posted by: steve_dog on July 20, 2005 12:59 PMWhat an image.
Posted by: Cydney on July 20, 2005 01:31 PMI want some of what you're smoking. As I recall we didn't vote for this 11.5B dollar albatross any more then we voted to finance a $500 per rider, per trip subsidy on Sound Transit from Everett to Seattle.
Rather then the ridicules unsustainable fee on license tabs how about we impose a Latte tax to fund the monorail. I figure about $400 per Latte ought to cover the tab. Another option might be a Liberal whine tax. At the rate that Liberals whine about $1 per whine ought to cover the project in less then one year. You would personally add millions to the fund.
Seattle has proven they will fund meaningful transportation projects. Something the monorail isn't. Go back to smoking your joint.
Posted by: swassociates on July 20, 2005 01:42 PMWe also voting in I-601. What happened to that?
Posted by: swassociates on July 20, 2005 01:45 PMThe monorail is in the violent flopping phase now.
Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on July 20, 2005 02:26 PMI know elites like you think the people don't know what they are doing, but why don't you actually read the thread before they attack.
The board is trying to see what they can do to give the people what they want for the money they have. They quite approperiately shot down the finance scheme, did they not? And now they are trying to see what the alternatives are. s.s. minnow and apparently many of you don't want them to do this, even though four votes of the people say they should.
I do think that they will have to go back to the people with their changes, but to not even try, after the people four times have said they are in favor of it, would be a great violation of public trust. Something that Elitist conservative have not problem with, but I would expect more out of many of you.
But, lets be honest, given four votes of the people, shouldn't the board at least see if there is some way to give the people what they want? Unless you are a complete hypocrit, you would have to say yes.
Posted by: JDB on July 20, 2005 03:01 PM"many of you don't want them to do this, even though four votes of the people say they should."
Wrong. Those four votes were for the lowball budget, overestimated income dream. Those fantasies are over, and they won't build the monorail AS PRESENTED TO THE VOTERS. So now you want the Board to build something different, no matter what, and just call it a Monorail? Without another vote on the new travesty? Feh.
The Soviets went broke doing exactly that.
Posted by: Hank Bradley on July 20, 2005 03:23 PMIn other words, blankety-blank Conservatives ruined the monorail.
Posted by: Arthur on July 20, 2005 03:42 PM
Wow, Thanks JDB Jeffy,
I've never been called "Elite" before. The one that is failing to read anything is yourself. Take a hard look in the mirror. Let me use small words. The project that was voted on was a pipe dream. Many knew it from the start but their voices were drowned out by bureaucrats and others that have personally profited from the Monorail fiasco to this point. The cold light of day has been put on the project now and the Cockroaches like yourself are running for cover. The Monorail is dead. Learn to live with it.
Posted by: swassociates on July 20, 2005 03:55 PMI ask again: "Which parts of the monorail for which the citizens voted can still be delivered that conform to specifications, are on time, and within budget?"
The people voted on a SPECIFIC plan - as specific as possible at the time. Now that the plan has been trashed, why do you keep insisting that the voters ratified the trashed plan?
Read your own comment:
"I do think that they will have to go back to the people with their changes, but to not even try, after the people four times have said they are in favor of it, would be a great violation of public trust."
What is the IT? The people have said they are in favor of IT, but they're going to get CHANGES! Why do you assume the CHANGES are IT? The CHANGES are not IT, the voters did not ratify the changes, and therefore the will of the voters no longer matters. Sorry, JDB.
I think this post is completely civil and kool-aid free - I await your explanation of why you think the voters have ratified the changes, rather than admitting that the will of the voters has been trashed like the original plans.
Vote 1: "Hey, wouldn't it be neat to have a monorail?" Approved.
Vote 2: "Cool, dude. Tell you what -- if you give me some money (not much, just a few hundred million), I'll put down the bong for a bit and draw something up. What do you say?" Approved.
Vote 3: "DUUUUUDE! Look at this! We have a plan, man! And, you know, it's not what we said it would be in the last vote, and it probably won't help traffic, and it's not really cool if you ask too many questions about the route or anything, and we don't really know what it will look like, but we have a good slogan: Rise Above It All! See? Wasn't that SWEET? Can we have 2 billion dollars now?" Approved (barely).
Vote 4: "Awww, man! You gave us all this money, and now you're trying to take it away? That's just NOT COOL, man! We're still "Rising Above It All," you know? And were Green. You like Green, right? That's right....you like Green. Save the Salmon! And we promise -- we'll have a plan Real Soon Now. No worries, dude. Don't take away our money!" Rejected (...or was it Approved?)
Posted by: A Moderate on July 20, 2005 04:24 PMDo you ever think before you comment?
Posted by: Amused by liberals on July 20, 2005 06:07 PMSo it shouldn't surprise me that, given its stunted emotional and relational skills, JBD is only now picking it up.
At least you spelled it correctly (even if you haven't a clue as to its meaning ;'}
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 20, 2005 07:01 PMI tend to agree. The only way Seattle will ever stop wasting all of our money and chasing after idealistic pipe dreams in order to fulfill the silly fantasies of extremist environmentalists will be for the government to literally be yanked out of their hands through bankruptcy.
With Mayor Nipples still harping away about building his tunnel of love and the monorail freaks trying to build half of a system, they are heading down just that road.
Posted by: BananaLand(aka Iguana) on July 20, 2005 11:22 PMPlease read my post, since you are able to quote it, and you will see:
"I do think that they will have to go back to the people with their changes, but to not even try, after the people four times have said they are in favor of it, would be a great violation of public trust. "
I am not saying, and you would have to be drinking heavily like alphabet soup to think I am, that the voters need to re-ratify the failed financing. I am saying that the board has their engineering done, they know what it will cost, give or take the vagrancies of any major project. Now, if they want to keep it alive, they have to figure out how to pay for it and present that again to the people.
Let the people decide. Right now there is a decent plan for the Monorail, but the financing does not work, and was rightly rejected. As such, they will need to propose some sort of changes to make it work, either better financing (and probably an increase in taxes), or a small system, or one built in sections. In any of these cases, I think they should go back to the people. Is democracy really that hard for you all to understand.
alphabet soup:
You really need to lay off the booze. It just makes you angry and foolish.
Posted by: JDB on July 21, 2005 12:23 AMDo you ever think?
Posted by: JDB on July 21, 2005 12:31 AMYou say "they know what it will cost, give or take the vagrancies of any major project". Surely you meant "major public project. I'm sure that the world trade center buildings were not wildly off. The rebuilding of Los Angeles freeways came in early and under budget BECAUSE private contractors did it. Government wants to micro-manage every major project when they have no experience or knowledge of what is being done, and consequently blow every budget possibly conceived.
Posted by: fred on July 21, 2005 09:36 AM"Is democracy really that hard for you all to understand."
The type of democracy that you believe in - one of endless taxation and limitless excuses for underperforming public agencies - is very difficult for me to understand.
Posted by: Larry on July 21, 2005 09:39 AMThe World Trade Center Buildings were a public project. And the Monorail is using private contractors.
Posted by: JDB on July 21, 2005 11:07 AMJDB’s unfocused beliefs are common to Seattleites and they clearly illustrate the reasons why the monorail has failed over and over.
Clever people learn from their mistakes while liberals spin. Arrogant resolve in pursuit of hopeless nonsense is neither a justification
for mass assent, nor an economic solution. Nevertheless facts, economics, and utility mean nothing to liberals.
Such hapless naiveté is why the Democrats fail. It will help those of us conservatives who would like to implement sensible policies
based on economic methods that will solve real problems. We don't flout the public will, we insist on offering the public things they
can afford and commit to before we ask them to sign on.
The monorail will no doubt be replaced in the public‘s attention by some other overpriced “Pink Hog" that JDB can defend because it
is a liberal Democrat project. They never learn. Why should they? Being clueless has worked for them for a long time now.
While trading pil pul with a dolt like JDB might be fun, it certainly won’t produce useful insights into anything.
Amused's unfocused beliefs are common to Conservatives and they clearly illustrate the reasons why the Republican party has failed over and over in Washington State.
Clever people learn from their mistakes while Conservatives just launch viscious attacks and spin. Arrogant resolve in pursuit of hopeless, illogical and spiteful nonsense is neither a justification
for mass assent, nor an economic solution, nor a decent theory of governence. How else do you explain a President with 90% approval blowing it all way with lies and misdeeds? Nevertheless facts, economics, compasion, intelligence, science, and logic mean nothing to conservatives.
Such hapless naiveté and meaness is why the Republicans fail. It will help those of us liberals who would like to implement sensible policies
based on economic, sound governence, intelligence and a desire to both provide for the national defense and promote the social welfare and effective methods that will solve real problems. Conservatives will continue to believe they are victims and that you can get something for nothing, and that you should kick a person when they are down. We don't flout the public will, we insist on offering the public things they
can afford and commit to before we ask them to sign on.
The monorail deserves a full and fair chance because it represents the public‘s will. On the other hand, conservatives will move on to some other thing they attack just because they think anything government does is bad, and that the rich shouldn't pay taxes, and fools like “The Pink Hog" Amused can defend this positiont because it
is a conservative Republican theology. They never learn. Why should they? Being clueless has not worked for them, but it is the only belief they have had for a long time now.
While trying to argue logically and without insults with a dolt like "The Pink Pig" might be fun, it certainly won’t produce useful insights into anything, other than the ability for a person to be totaly self deluded and to so that he has no arguement because all he can do is be childish and attack when he has no ideas of his own.
O.K., lets acknowledge JDB's unique parlance and rhetorical skill here.
In his “inimitable” [sic] style response, JDB says that I defend my Republican theology positiont with viscious attacks, and then demands that I explain why Washington State's President with 90% approval# is blowing it all way with lies and misdeeds? ANYONE HERE CARE TO ARGUE WITH THAT? I know, too easy.
I’m not entirely sure what he means to say here but then quite obviously neither is he.
Aside from the fact that JDB is still unable to spell *arguement*, JDB’s *positiont* on *governence,* *compasion,* *meaness,* and rational *arguement* though absurdly *viscious* is quite hilarious.
Since JDB has apparently mastered the fine art of cut-and–paste, it is clear why the original words in my comments are the only ones correctly spelled in his.
By the way, do my words seem to fit his embellishments? Didn't think so.
Thanks for the amusing *response* there JDB, you are a lazy ass illiterate hoot!
*JDB spelling
#JDB Reasoning
And to top that with the knowledge that has surely seeped into even his little mind that even the most foolish posters here just laugh at his post because he has never added something of substance. Add to that the he constantly shows a small, simplistic mind set that is easily distracted by petty things like typos from the real issues being discussed. It would be hard not to pitty him, except he brings it upon himself.
And, worse, he has yet to realize that by his petty minded attacks, he shows that the ideas he is trying desperately to ignore have power, make sense. He wouldn't be trying so hard to bury his head in the sand if he could actually come up with an intellegent arguement.
A sad little man, really. Just smile and pat him on the head. He is entirely harmless; just a small minded fool without an original thought in his brain. More's the pitty.
Posted by: JDB on July 22, 2005 12:48 AMGood job genius. Who can argue with this syntactic composition?
By the way dimwit. If you or any of your silly ass liberal Democrat moron friends in Seattle wish to vote for the Monorail a dozen times or more have at it.
Voting for it won’t change its viability. It just shows how foolish and recklessly profligate you and your ilk are.
Except to applaud you on your arrogantly steadfast insistence upon proving that you are an idiot, I couldn’t care less.
"Voting for it won’t change its viability." Well, that really depends on what they vote on, doesn't it? And if the citizens of Seattle want to saddle themselves with a pink elephant, so be it, that is the fun of a democracy. The people can often get it wrong, but they do get to make the decision. Sheesh, at whatever remedial school you went to, didn't they teach you anything about civics?
So, here, I'll make it easy for you. You can 1) attack my spelling or call me names because you know I'm right, or 2) you can engage in a conversation and actually come up with an idea or two. I think we all know which you will choose.
Hugs and kisses,
Posted by: JDB on July 22, 2005 01:24 PMLike I said before, but now in his parlance, if JDB and his moron friends really "want to saddle themselves with a pink elephant," so be it.
You would think that's simple enough to understand, wouldn't you?
I would insist on a health card first.....
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 22, 2005 08:07 PMLIBERAL RHETORIC(sort of)
If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
JDB’s point is that merely by observing the indisputable failure of the monorail, 1) we (he’s not clear who but presumably SPer’s) are elites that are somehow trying to thwart the will of the people who voted for the Monorail four times, and 2) the fun of a democracy for JDB and his liberal friends is spending a huge sum of public money to saddle themselves with pink elephants, and then pretend it is something to be proud of. It’s O.K. with me, so long as he doesn’t try to use my money that way. Apparently JDB is all too seriously protecting someone from our dastardly thwartings to see the humor in his own silliness. More likely just too dense.
While defending the freedom to be an idiot is something JDB does quite well, it is clear he is just spewing. Many of us would engage JDB seriously if he actually had a point. However, his comments are always singularly motivated by anger and obdurate dispute. His sloppy incoherent ramblings scattered with humorously illiterate and disconnected illogical emotional appeals only masquerade as ideas. JDB's lazy views are indicative of his liberal “philosophy,” and he exhibits a consistent quality of disdain for rational ideas, reasoning, spelling, and grammar that consistently compliment each other in his writing.
Just watch, JDB will continue misspelling and misstating in the future; he can’t help himself. In his *mind,* precision is not important –it’s his passion that counts.
It is a lot of fun to watch JDB attempt to defend his meaningless half baked emotional rantings, but there is certainly nothing of substance to learn from them or him.
Would this be a bad time to mention about the no-no-rail that broke down yesterday, forcing the SFD to evacuate the riders via the other train (on the other rail)?
Do you suppose any of these liberal mental midgets remember that, in order to minimize costs, the Greenline project reduced itself to a single line, which effectively eliminates utilizing the parallel track for the inevitable rescues that they will need to make?
Nah, I didn't think so....
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 23, 2005 10:56 AMJane
Sadly, the quality of your post haven't improved with your drinking. And have you forgotten that the green line has an emergency walk way as part of its design? Oops, foolish to be you.
JDB 2, Amused 0
Posted by: jdb on July 23, 2005 11:16 PMSheesh, I know the booze has its effects on you, but even I'm surprised that counting is beyond your abilities. Really, help is available. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, don't you think? Oh, that's right, you don't.
Posted by: jdb on July 24, 2005 10:12 AM(It must be terribly difficult to breathe with your head so far up your own butt...)
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 24, 2005 10:38 AMThe fun here is that people like JDB have no point about anything and he proves it every time he comments.
He is all about feebly attempting to be a finger in the eye of people he doesn't like because he doesn't understand them.
Petty emotional nonsense in substitution for lines of reasoning is the very best he can offer on his own.
Most of the time he is unable to muster even that level of mediocrity because he is too lazy and dense.
The only cogent arguments made by JDB on this thread were those made by me that he plagiarized,
butchered their substance by inserted his preferences into them, and then proudly claimed as his own.
Now he is reduced to his only real talent - obdurate tediousness.
In this regard I must agree that jdb really does score.
I don't look to biteme/jdb for cogency, rationality, or even a recitation of the usual liberal dogmatic line. He doesn't appear to know anything about anything, but that doesn't stop him from breathlessly blurting out some simple-minded shiite.
Nah, I look to biteme/jdb for amusement, just like most folks, and a reassurance that, although it is true that liberalism is a mental disorder, it seems to be harmless. Biteme/jdb reminds me of the old "Rock-em Sock-em Robots - you dance around a bit and then you whack him, knocking him on his ass.
He gets up and says "jdb 4, Amused 0" (which is his way of saying "You knocked my block off!"), and then it starts all over again.
I don't know which is worse - his moronic displays of illogic posing as an "arguement", or his whiz-bang insults ;'}
Pathetically, tragically foolish, but funny all the same....
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 24, 2005 05:52 PM[AMUSED chops both JDB 's arms and his right leg off]
JDB: Oh, had enough, eh?
AMUSED: Look, you stupid bastard, you've got no arms left.
JDB: Yes I have.
AMUSED: Look!
JDB: Just a flesh wound.
[whop]
[AMUSED chops JDB 's other leg off]
JDB: uh . . . JDB 5, amused 0!
Strange, I directly challange you with the fact that there is an emergency walk way, and you say I don't know anything about anything. Well, I guess the nice thing about being ignorant is that you don't even realize you are ignorant..., that or the booze keeps you from seeing what a fool you make of yourself every day. Still, it must be hard when you are able to drag yourself into work so you can buy that next bottle and having everyone sniggering at your.
jdb 7, amused 0
jdb 8, amused 0
You know, you really should get out and enjoy the sun. There is a beautiful world out there beyond your pitiful sniping and darkness. You don't have to be afraid of the world, amused. Very few people are as small and spiteful as you. At least open a blind and let some light in.
Posted by: jdb on July 24, 2005 09:42 PMYes, there is an emergency walkway proposed. BFD. Are you so idiotic as to presuppose that it's inclusion was for anything other than track maintenance? Are you seriously saying that they intended to have people strolling around up there? Do you think before you post? The only reference to safety considerations of any sort can be found here: http://www.elevated.org/_downloads/project/updates/singleBeamSummary.pdf. In it you will notice that the only attestation to safeguards is in reference to the automated track-in-use system. Nothing about provisions for break-downs. So here we have our moronrail breaking down and what happens? biteme/jdb leaps out onto the catwalk. Then what moron? Summon your hover car? Packing a parachute? Or do you just pull the pig outta yer butt and flutter off on it?
It looks like there is, on average, about .5 to 1.5 miles between stations (how's this thing supposed to move anybody if it's spending all of its time stopping?!). Should biteme/jdb get lucky (OK, there's a first time for everything!) and the moronrail breaks down only a half-mile away from a station, I guess he can merrily skip his way along to the nearest exit along the catwalk some 50 - 60 feet above the street!. And then what? Jump across to the station? I'd pay money to see that!
What do you have in mind (yea, I know jdb=mindless) for handicapped riders? The elderly? People carrying their lunchboxes? Oh! I know....we could install pedals for them! Then, when this albatross breaks down (and it will break down), they can just pedal it to the next station!
Of course, then we would have to back-charge them a recreational usage fee. How very "Elite" of you.
It would appear that you still don't know nuthin 'bout nuthin...
(but let's not let that interfere with your score ;'}
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 24, 2005 11:39 PMSheesh, Alphabet, I know that in your normal drunken haze walking to the station might be difficult, but we are talking about an emergency situation, so having people walk on the walkway to the next station or, even more likely, just to the next stantion where there would be an access ladder wouldn't be that hard to do. Is that really so hard for your boozed addled mind to wrap around?
As for people with special needs or who are drunk like you, I'm pretty sure that one of our local firemen would be more than happy to help you stagger to the ladder or the next station.
Are you really so stupid that if you were on a bus or a train that broke down away from a city that you would think you would die because the only alternative would be to walk? Do you have panic attacks if your car runs out of gas because at the most it is .25 to .75 miles to the nearest gas station? Good God man, if you drive through Eastern Washington, you must really have to hit the bottle to keep your shakes down. Why, it must be tens of miles between stations. What would happen if you don't make it? Surely you would die or, worse of all, run out of booze.
I know you are not the brightest bulb on this 10-watt blog, but sheesh, try to think before you post. Yes, we all like the humor, but laughing at a loser like you only goes so far. I don't expect wit from your, but a little thought, is that too much to ask?
Hugs and kisses,
Posted by: JDB on July 25, 2005 09:52 AMIn an emergency jdb wants people to walk on the service walkway to the next stantion [sic], and he claims that YOU are drunk?
This coming from someone who would say, “sheesh, try to think before you post’ and “I don't expect wit from your, but a little thought, is that too much to ask?
Hey jdb , once again in your characteristic manner of crude dialogue, “thanks for the wit from your.”
Boy, I knew it, I just knew it. This post had slipped off the main board, but you couldn't let it drop off, could you. You just had to read what I wrote. Me, I just get to make fun of you, but you, you sit in your sad, dark little world just waiting to attack me. How pitiful. Surely even someone as sad as you has someone that loves them and will occasionally seperate them from their delusions? Are you really that alone, that much of a loser? Judging from your posts, yes. But there is help if only you reach out for it.
I almost gave you a point because you made a lame attempt to be on topic, but all you did is parrot Alphabet's bad attempt. Sheesh, use an emergency walk way in an emergency, who would have thought of that? Obvioulsy not your incredible mind.
Let's put this through a thought experiment. JDB and Amused are on a train, and the train stops in the middle of nowhere due to problems with the tracks.
Amused: Everyone on this train are complete idiots, I'm the only smart person! However, we are all going to die, since the train cannot move. How foolish of us to have taken public transportation! This is all the liberals fault!
JDB: But we can just walk out the door and up the tracks to the intersection. There is a bus waiting for us there.
Amused: I know you are speaking, but surely you would have mistyped something if you were typing, because you are a liberal idiot. We are doomed!! There is no way out!!
JDB: We could walk...,
Amused: And your mother smells, but don't you see we are doomed!
JDB: Bye.
Boy, if only I had a mind like yours, my spelling would be perfect, and my reasoning bested by most five year olds. I know that is what I want to be when I get old.
What a loser.
Posted by: JDB on July 25, 2005 02:22 PMjdb is trying awfully hard don't you think?
Do you suppose he has any inkling of an idea why?
I figured out why he doesn't see how ludicrous his notion is about civilians out scurrying about on a catwalk - biteme/jdb's feet don't ever actually touch the ground!
How else can he spout such insane foolishness, all the while thinking he's "flopping elbows wit da best"?
Whatta maroon.....
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 25, 2005 02:56 PMYep, alphabet, it is ludicrous to think that in case of a problem, peole will use a walkway to get off the monorail.
How drunk are you that you think people can't walk on a walkway? It's not like its a balance beam. It has railings, and we are talking, what, at the most, probably a half mile to the nearest station, and probably less than 30 yards to the nearest point of relief?
Amused is obvioulsy a fat kid that got picked on and might have an excuse for his foolishness (out side of his inherent stupidity). Once can easily picture Amused being some 500lbd ivalid huffing down his cheetos while obsessing in front of his computer, but I've always thought a little higher about you.
Posted by: JDB on July 25, 2005 04:19 PMhttp://www.elevated.org/_images/project/building/guideways/pic_2.jpg
http://www.elevated.org/_images/project/building/guideways/pic_3.jpg
http://www.elevated.org/_images/project/building/guideways/pic_4.jpg
You would have civilians of all stripes (possibly including the "peole" you refer to) out trying to transverse a narrow, unguarded strip of concrete, you twit. Like I said (and I'll expand on it) I'd pay money to see you try to walk off 50 yards of this "walkway" (remember that you are hovering 50 - 60 feet off the street, you idiot), and I'd bet you'd pee your pants before you got ten feet.
Further, it looks more & more like you've never been out of your mommy's house. You obviously lack sufficient skills to conduct the basic mental processing required to say, keep the drool off your chin.
So what's the score now genius?
Oh yea.."biteme/jdb (in his own head), 16 bazillion, reality, 0"
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 25, 2005 05:02 PMWhat do you expect? Facts? Rationality?
Typical.
Posted by: Amused by liberal morons on July 25, 2005 05:18 PMHe babbles, "But you really shouldn't post your comments when you are tank, unless you like all of us laughing at you."
To tell ya the truth dimwit, I'm not afraid of being laughed at - it is halfway to being laughed with. What's your excuse? Tell me genius, who do you think is the object of derision on these boards? Oh, that's right..."biteme/jdb (in his own head), 16 bazillion, reality, 0"
Please, for the love of god, don't stop posting!
I can't tell ya how much enjoyment I've gotten out of watching you twist ;'}
You’re right . . . jdb actually calls himself biteme/jdb (nerk nerk).
Very clever.
Do you suppose he thinks his nom de plume is also an *argueyment* as well.
Honestly, it is obvious you have yourself figured as a debater, but you never engage any substantive debate because you never argue substance. You are a spoiler who carps at other peoples’ comments with lies and bullshit who believes that making things up is the same as citing facts. Your unfounded personal insults are in direct substitution for arguments, and you play cheap insulting badinage in substitution for debate. You only prove over and over again that you are a deluded liberal fool with no point, just anger and vitriol.
If you ever decide to engage in real debate, come up with a real argument, and I will defeat you easily because you are not very intelligent.
Nevertheless, you are amusing.