July 18, 2005
McGavick is "exploring a run for the U.S. Senate"

Safeco CEO Mike McGavick announced his resignation this afternoon

McGavick is stepping down effective Aug. 31 "to give full consideration to the possibility of public service"
I received an e-mail that McGavick has scheduled a press conference for noon tomorrow "to discuss his motivation for exploring a run for the U.S. Senate in 2006".

UPDATE: This speech, which McGavick gave to the Greater Seattle Chamber of Commerce in 2002, has gotten rave reviews.

UPDATE 2: A Republican congressional staffer reports that McGavick was making calls to Capitol Hill today asking for support for his Senate bid. And he was getting it.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at July 18, 2005 04:39 PM | Email This
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1. Right on

Posted by: David Hoffman on July 18, 2005 04:48 PM
2. I consider myself a moderate democrat, but I’m intrigued by McGavick (though I think he’d make a better govenor than senator). He’s got great ideas to make Washington more business friendly. I just hope he has moderate social position. I was equally intrigued by Dino Rossi until I heard that he favored creationism over evolution.

Posted by: Lucas on July 18, 2005 04:55 PM
3. Boy, what a stunning politician. Someone that holds their first press conference to "to discuss his motivation for exploring a run for the U.S. Senate in 2006." At least we know he is motivated to explore a run for senate. Shame he isn't motivated to be a senator. You would think that the GOP could find someone who was a bit more inspirational.

Oh, and by the way, Mr. Sharansky, the period goes inside the quotes.

Posted by: JDB on July 18, 2005 05:39 PM
4. Oh, and by the way, Mr. Sharansky, the period goes inside the quotes.

"JDB", whatever your name is, my name is Sharkansky. But feel free to post your anonymous tips on copyediting and effective communication.

Posted by: Stefan Sharkansky on July 18, 2005 05:48 PM
5. McGavic is a wonderful speaker with real vision I'm happy he is running for senate!!Hooray!

Posted by: Laurie on July 18, 2005 05:50 PM
6. JDB: Stefan is showing solidarity with the victims of the London attacks by writing in British.

What's your excuse for misspelling Stefan's name, idiot?

Posted by: ScottM on July 18, 2005 05:55 PM
7. I wish we could find a copy of the speech he gave to the Seattle Chamber of Commerce back in Sept. 2002(?) ... I think that's the one. WOW! is the best adjective to describe it.

Posted by: Cheryl on July 18, 2005 06:36 PM
8. I'd like to know more about McGavik's history!

Does he have a site where his bio is posted?

Posted by: Deborah on July 18, 2005 07:02 PM
9. Here's some quick info on McGavick (off the top of my head)

-Chief of Staff to Senator Slade "Godfather" Gorton in early-1990s.
-President, CEO, and Chairman of Safeco for the past several years

You will find he is very pro-business, much like Dino. He is much more moderate socially. He will probably clone a lot of Slade's environmental positions to swing over a few extra Dems. He will be able to raise money like NUTS.

In my opionion, he is the second best candidate I could hope for (outside of the Attorney General who probably couldn't pull off a quick turn around like that). My first choice would have been a member of the McCaw clan (Bruce, Craig, Susan). McGavick is my second choice. He is FAR FAR FAR better than Linda Evans Parnette (huge RINO), Chris Vance (buffoon), Slade (ran into him recently and he is olllld), George Nethercutt (political moron), Rick White (who?), or Jennifer Dunn (easily manipulated).

So we have a lot to celebrate as Republicans.

Posted by: ARS on July 18, 2005 07:16 PM
10. Let's hope he runs a great campaign and people see why Cantwell is just a bad choice and can't be taken seriously to reform S.S. or make decisions on something as important as our national safety.

She also has NO CLUE when it comes to the wisdom of drilling for oil in the ANWAR, a place with nothing in it and where no one ever goes. Name a BETTER place for drilling---Maria's backyard??

Posted by: Michele on July 18, 2005 07:17 PM
11. McGavik was a ruthless, tactless, inarticulate and uninspiring "leader," brought in by outside board members to transform Safeco from a diversified organization with family and community values into a souless money machine. In other words the perfect Republican candidate.

I'm sure he will do well east of the Cascades, the very folks who want good roads, but won't pay the taxes to pay for them. And the same folks who run around with "Support our Troops" stickers on the back of their cars while griping about expensive, out of control government.

Posted by: Unkl Witz on July 18, 2005 07:43 PM
12. ARS, Unkl Witz,

I'll just look him up myself.......er...thanks!.

Posted by: Deborah on July 18, 2005 07:54 PM
13. No problem Deb.

And just for the record, he had absolutely nothing to do with purchasing the naming rights to Safeco Field. The credit for that goes to George Johnson and Roger Eigsti.

Posted by: Unkl Witz on July 18, 2005 07:58 PM
14. Maria Can'twin has issues, and any challenger will be able to expose them. The big issue is who can capitalize on it.

We shall see with this guy.

And remember, it's Maria Can'twin.

Posted by: Sailor Republica on July 18, 2005 08:07 PM
15. Unk: You guys really have issues with people expressing support for the troops, don't you?

Not that I'm questioning your patriotism, oh no, certainly not!

I do wonder why those stickers infuriate you so much, however.

But I am absolutely not questioning your patriotism. Not even a little tiny bit.

Posted by: ScottM on July 18, 2005 08:32 PM
16. Unkl

I believe that those people with the "Support our Troops" stickers on the backs of their cars (and I happen to be one of them) are griping about the cost of the expensive out of control social programs of goverment. We all understand that one of the primary duties of goverment is defense of the country...that spending is critial in these days...unlike the many entitlement and pork programs of our goverment.
Just my humble opinion tho.....

Posted by: Blueknight on July 18, 2005 08:32 PM
17. Scott:

They don't infuriate me, they puzzle me... You complain about a few billion in local taxes to fix up your own neighborhood/economy, but you turn a blind eye toward the massive waste of hundreds of billions and enormous loss of human life in a senseless war, started under false pretext. Go figure?

Posted by: Unkl Witz on July 18, 2005 08:38 PM
18. And to you Blue.... ditto the above.

Posted by: Unkl Witz on July 18, 2005 08:39 PM
19. Well, Unki, at least you're honest enough to admit that you don't support our troops. That's better than most of your leftist cronies do.

Posted by: ScottM on July 18, 2005 08:42 PM
20. Let's hope he doesn't have the same same hatred for fathers and families that Reichert has.

That's right Reichert - you suck and we are on to you.

Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on July 18, 2005 08:47 PM
21. Uncle what's your name....

Our "Out of Control Goverment" has been brought to you by "20 years of Dem Control".

I think possibly you should bring your head outta your ARSE and move out of KC and see how the rest of the state lives. (BTW Queen Christine is now pumping money into saving Puget Sound, jeez dont you liberal's know how to use a litter bag?)For pete's sakes, just look at the Waste of our Tax Dollars DAILY.

I think you should be made to watch a 24 hour replay of the London Bombings, over and over, maybe then you will remember 9/11. I remember 9/11, do you remember where you were when you first heard the news? Just try, and then tell me that we shouldn't support the AMERICAN TROOPS that our overseas fighting. Those Troops remember 9/11, you should at least try and respect them.

Posted by: Chris on July 18, 2005 08:50 PM
22. Thank God McGavick is going to throw his hat in the ring. He's smart, ambitious, competent, successfull and articulate. He will not disappoint. I noticed the complaint posted above about him being "ruthless." Heaven forbid that a CEO will make tough decisions. Tough decisions sometimes mean that deadwood is let go, that rates go higher, that a company turns a profit.

Last time I checked, making a profit is a good thing (I can hear the gasps of shock...yes, I believe making a profit is a GOOD thing).

Posted by: seanod100 on July 18, 2005 08:55 PM
23. Thank God McGavick is going to throw his hat in the ring. He's smart, ambitious, competent, successfull and articulate. He will not disappoint. I noticed the complaint posted above about him being "ruthless." Heaven forbid that a CEO will make tough decisions. Tough decisions sometimes mean that deadwood is let go, that rates go higher, that a company turns a profit.

Last time I checked, making a profit is a good thing (I can hear the gasps of shock...yes, I believe making a profit is a GOOD thing).

Posted by: seanod100 on July 18, 2005 08:55 PM
24. Unkl--
Debate all you want here, but don't bad mouth the troops nor the support for them. They are laying their lives on the line (without hesitation) for people that ALSO hate them here in the US. Like the guy in your mirror.

Have some common decency for their duty. And don't give me the ya ya about "it's not about THEM" until you donate to the USO or a vet's organization. Yes--I gave a bundle of things to the recent Bit of Home drive for the troops.

Call me whatever insult you want, but don't swipe at them from behind your comfy monitor--it's not right.

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on July 18, 2005 09:03 PM
25. Oh Boy....here we go wif the "false pretense" stuff again.

Ever heard of the U.N. Unkl, I'm sure you have. Remember that little thing called UN Resolution 1440..(I could have that number wrong..maybe 1441) anyways..it dealt with giving the AUTHORITY to go into Iraq because the goverment there was in violation...remember that?

Remember that little discussion congress had when they gave AUTHORITY to go into Iraq (using the same intell that the President had) remember that?

Remember the multiple missle attacks on our aircraft protecting the "No Fly Zone"??

REMEMBER 9-11 UNKL????????...oh excuse me...I forgot....Iraq had nothing to do wif 9-11....riiiight.

Try pulling yer head outta the sand mister

Posted by: Blueknight on July 18, 2005 09:03 PM
26. I'm for this guy. A little bit of fresh air from the private sector. Once we get a REAL leader, I think a lot of latent political interest in the populace will swell and good changes will follow. Certainly better than the 'leadership' we have now. I haven't been moved by any WA senatorial speeches lately. No fire in the belly. Mostly pep talks from a school counselor. Dump the Kumbaya--bring the Kamikaze.

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on July 18, 2005 09:10 PM
27. Well put Jimmie...

I read the Speech Stefan posted as an Update on this topic.....WOW.

A poster above spoke about his lack of "family or community" responsibilty as far as running Safeco. Reading the speech, I didnt read that tone, but of course it is a Speech.

All insurance companies suffered after 9/11 with the enormous claims. I believe he was just doing what he was hired to do, which sounds like "Save Safeco".

Maybe he can do some more Saving....

Posted by: Chris on July 18, 2005 09:18 PM
28. "but you turn a blind eye toward the massive waste of hundreds of billions and enormous loss of human life in a senseless war, started under false pretext. "

Hmmm...Wasted billions? Loss of life? Senseless - started under false pretext?......

THAT sounds exactly like the ravages of the war the Socialists and Communists have waged and continue to wage on our country! Billions of our tax dollars wasted on uptopian fantasies of the liberals! Hundreds of our service men and women killed by an enemy inspired by the anti-American sentiment spewed by the liberal left! Senseless - in that the liberal left claims anti-war - yet would bitch slap their grandmothers if they didn't fall into their liberal lifestyle! The liberal left support their socialist fantasy under the guise of "It's for the children" and more recently the "Emergency clause"....Talk about false pretext!

Posted by: Deborah on July 18, 2005 09:36 PM
29. "It's for the children"

Whenever you hear a politician mention "it's for the children" you should immediately discount what they have to say.

Gender feminists have been wrapping themselves in "for the children" and getting all the anti-family, anti-father, anti-male legislation they want. The irony is, this crowd has about as much interest in having children as Bill has in going to be with Hillary.

Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on July 18, 2005 09:47 PM
30. Yep Iguana!

The liberal left - who claim their robbery of our tax dollars is "for the children"...is the SAME liberal left who push for abortion rights! Go figure?

I wonder *who's* children our money is for? Mexico's? France's? .....It can't be for the aborted children - and that's what they support most of all!

They certainly can't have it both ways!

You will find many of these ironies with the liberal left!

Posted by: Deborah on July 18, 2005 10:16 PM
31. Stefan,

Thank you again for the opportunity to showcase the unique talents of trolls such as biteme and swizzlestick.

Once upon a time had you described these two mental midgets I would have suggested you were trying to pull my leg.

Surely someone who writes at a fifth grade level would be a bit reluctant to advertise it. Yet here's JDB aka biteme (what kind of fool would refer to itself as biteme?) who dresses it all up in a stuffed shirt. Thank god for spell-check, eh biteme? Too bad it can't correct your sadly defective thinking.

And then there's swizzlestick aka everybody's favorite pervert Unkl Witz. Smarmy when he thinks he's being glib, arrogant when he believes himself artful. A classic case of two-faced, cowardly, self-hating hypocrite aka American liberal.

As for Mr. McGavick, I don't know too much about him (yet), but that will be soon corrected.

One thing I can always take to the bank however - the "worst" Republican is better than the "best" Democrap any day....

Posted by: alphabet soup on July 18, 2005 10:18 PM
32. Do you think Sims will apply for McGavicks position? With his mathematical prowess,his home training, and his banking skills, The Mariners will be bankrupt by Christmas

Posted by: Jim L on July 18, 2005 10:49 PM
33. Ruthless??????? Have you SEEN what the Democrats on the King County Council have been up to with the CAO etc.?????

Posted by: Michele on July 19, 2005 12:07 AM
34. Here's a bio on Mike McGavik..


Michael S. McGavick, born February 7, 1958 in Washington State, is an American business executive.

Positions he has held include:

Chief of Staff to former U.S. Senator Slade Gorton, a position he assumed after managing Gorton's successful comeback campaign in 1988.
Director of the American Insurance Association's Superfund Improvement Project in Washington, D.C. In that position, he was the American Insurance Association's lead negotiator in working to transform the nation's Superfund environmental laws.
Staff member of the Seattle-based Washington Roundtable, a non-partisan policy research group composed of the chief executive officers of the state's largest corporations.
Senior Financial Officer for Continental Casualty Company's (CNA) Commercial Lines Group.
Vice President of CNA's New Ventures group and led the development of the company's e-commerce strategy.
President and Chief Operating Officer of CNA's largest operating department. The department, with $3.5 billion in annual revenues, provided the majority of CNA's commercial insurance products. It also was responsible for managing and strengthening CNA's relationship with its independent agent distribution system.
President and Chief Executive Officer of Safeco Insurance, which marked a return to his roots in Seattle.
McGavick is a graduate of the University of Washington and a native of Seattle.

He has recently stepped down from his position at Safeco "to give full consideration to the possibility of public service." He is expected to run for the U.S. Senate seat in Washington currently held by Maria Cantwell of Edmonds.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_McGavick"

Posted by: Deborah on July 19, 2005 12:22 AM
35. Out of control government is paying the current Govenor's cabinet twice as much Governor Locke's cabinet...

Out of control government is paying 100 million for bridges for animals to cross the highway to mate and increase the gene pool for the poor sex starved animals...

Out of control government is paying over 80 thousand dollars to give artwork to sexual predators locked up...

Out of control government is paying over a million dollars for artwork at a sewage plant in Snohomish county...

Out of control government is paying 11 billion for a monorail that goes nowhere and doesn't connect to any other form of transportation... like Sound Transit, streetcars, buses, or even the airport...

The list goes on and on Uncl and one thing is for sure, it will continue. The only way to expose the madness is to talk about it and write about it! And support candidates that have the moral courage to change it!

Posted by: sgmmac on July 19, 2005 03:32 AM
36. Unkl is absolutely correct on McGavick. He is a ruthless, self-aggrandizing, "it's all about me" CEO. He was brought in from the outside (in part because Safeco's board had screwed the pooch with its American States acquisition).

Will he be good for WA and the Senate...who the hell knows.

JDB...I see you're still a moron.

Posted by: Danny on July 19, 2005 04:42 AM
37. He is a ruthless, self-aggrandizing, "it's all about me" ...

Name for me a U.S. senator that phrase doesn't describe?

Posted by: V the K on July 19, 2005 06:18 AM
38. About the best thing that can be said for McGavick is that he is far brighter and savvy than your beloved Dino (who isn't).

But he's about as warm and loving as Dick Cheney and as charismatic as a sinkful of dirty dishes.

He will not make a great campaigner.

Posted by: Unkl Witz on July 19, 2005 06:25 AM
39. Anybody wonder why Unkl Witz is so bitter towards Mr. McGavick? Well I've learned that Unkl Witz's real name is Rich Kiker, and Rich Kiker used to be a senior claims specialist at SAFECO. So that means one of two things. McGavick fired Kiker for gross incompetence, or McGavick yelled at Kiker because Kiker was grossly incompetent. And that hurt Kiker's feelings. Poor chap.

Posted by: ARS on July 19, 2005 06:33 AM
40. ARS: Nice catch.

Awwww, was the boss not warm and wuvving?

Hee hee hee!

Posted by: ScottM on July 19, 2005 06:53 AM
41. Well, not to sidle on up next to Unkl, I don't have any truck with Safeco. My ex used to work for the company and I got to watch the train wreck in slow-motion.

VRS...can't name a senator who doesn't fit the bill...touche.

Posted by: Danny on July 19, 2005 07:58 AM
42. Hey Uncle !!

Doesnt matter if he makes a great campaigner, just that he makes a great Senator!!!

We already have a Gov. who was a great Campaigner (she lied), but that doesnt make her a great Gov.

Was McGavik the Cause of the Train Wreck of Safeco, or was he brought in to clean up the already de-railed train?


Posted by: Chris on July 19, 2005 08:04 AM
43. One thing I liked about Cantwell was her very successful executive position in Real, that is, until, I realized she was there to grease the skids with DC and didn't have anything to do with the success or failure of that company.

I would give a lot for any CEO, etc. to leave the private sector and be a public servant. Corzine and Bloomberg were close to my ideal, except they used their own billions to win their elections. It wasn't ideas.

Sounds like the Safeco CEO was hands on and doesn't have the bankroll to fund a campaign and has to work with others.

Frist was another hero. He left a lucrative position as a doctor to be a senator.

We need more and I intend to support the Safeco CEO.

Posted by: swatter on July 19, 2005 08:07 AM
44. One more thing Unc....

I dont want any more Warm, Fuzzy,Charismic, smily faced politicians. I want Honest, Hard Nosed, Stick to the Problem until Finished type of leaders.

We dont need anymore of the pussyfooting that has been going on the past 20 years. We need Action, and people in office not afraid to "Hurt Somebody's Little Feelings". Running this state is a BUSINESS, and should be treated like one.

Posted by: Chris on July 19, 2005 08:09 AM
45. Running a government like a business, Chris, sounds good until you have the Supreme Court rule that govenment can steal your property if it makes them more money.

We just need more successful people in government offices. There is a guy here at work who calls most politicians "runners". They are always "running" for some office or another. They always get appointed to Transportation Boards or Sound Transit or the DOT Performance Audit Board. They get nothing done because all they know is how to "run". Think about it for awhile and you all will agree.

We need fewer "runners" and more people who leave private sector to do a stint in the public and then go home. Just like the Founding Fathers envisioned. We don't need lifetime politicians and "runners" like Cantwell.

Posted by: swatter on July 19, 2005 08:45 AM
46. Chris, he was brought in to clean it up. However, he arrived with his reputation preceding him...make short-term decisions that result in short-term improvements that will yield short-term stock moves. Nothing of consequence.

His record is five years, then out. He's consistent with his timing.

As far as a great senator...who knows. "Principled" doesn't seem to be a word that is used when describing him.

Posted by: Danny on July 19, 2005 09:18 AM
47. unkl dips#!t said: "I'm sure he will do well east of the Cascades, the very folks who want good roads, but won't pay the taxes to pay for them."

Yeah, we do want good roads ON THIS SIDE OF THE STATE!!!!!!! Take a look at the WSDOT project list and tell me how my 9.5 cents a gallon helps me in Pullman?? I can tell you that nearly 5 cents of that will go to King County. And that is fair how?

You're right we'll support McGavick or any other Republican that runs for the Senate because of all the pansy, tree hugging, radical, bleeding heart, communist moonbat idiotarians like you in Seattle. Keep it up.

Posted by: Felis Concolor on July 19, 2005 09:40 AM
48. Danny--
I saw a lot of CEO's & CFO's come & go in industry. Yes--perhaps they do come in, fix things & go. Yes--perhaps they break eggs, offend some & step on toes. However, I'm willing to gamble on what I've seen with those who are brought in to make changes. Fact is, they get it done. We need this trait in WA. No nicey talks. No more soft responses to crime, terror and overstepping local governments.

We need a guy or woman who is not prim & proper, but direct. Roll up the sleeves and make the complacent people sweat. I lived through many company restructurings. Scary but usually necessary when done. It focuses energies and makes one re-think. Like a bad fever as your body cures itself.

Get some funds from DC, attract business and get us back on the national prestige map for things other than voting fraud, homeless paradises and playing 'naked Twister' with horses.

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on July 19, 2005 10:53 AM
49. Stefan sent a link to a speech. In the speech, McGavick said: "We clearly need to raise the level of civil discourse in our community. If I see one more of those negative 30-second ads, I'm going to throw up".

This is basically a pledge not to do any negative ads.

Stefan..thanks for the link. It's wonderful to see a politician who clearly outlines his distaste for negative ads (even as he admits to having made them in the past).

Then again, if he goes against this pledge, are we to assume he's yet another politician whose word can't be trusted - whose "beliefs" ebb and flow as the political winds blow?

Posted by: Jim Manchester on July 19, 2005 11:13 AM
50. Jimmie,

I agree in principle. And, most of the time, I agree in practice. I'll keep my powder dry on McGavick. We'll see. I'm willing to be wrong.

Posted by: Danny on July 19, 2005 11:25 AM
51. Unkl Witz,

You accuse McGavick of transforming Safeco "from a diversified organization with family and community values into a souless money machine."

Could you please do us a favor and provide a list of any other company you believe is being similarly transformed into a money making machine. I need to improve the performance of my stock portfolio and would love to find some new places to invest.

Posted by: barchester on July 19, 2005 11:25 AM
52. You accuse McGavick of transforming Safeco "from a diversified organization with family and community values into a souless money machine."

Actually, that sounds pretty much like what's happened to the Democratic Party since the Clintons and Howard Dean took over.

Posted by: V the K on July 19, 2005 11:48 AM
53. V the K:

you're at least *partly* right. The Democratic machine is definitely soulless, but apparently an abysmal failure when it comes to being a "money machine." Democrats don't understand basic economics, much less running a business.

Posted by: Richard Easbey on July 19, 2005 12:39 PM
54. It is important to point out that an untested candidate, with no well known positions is not always a recipe for victory. While Mr McGavick is probably a fine fellow and worthy of consideration a primary can help excite people to come out and vote and help the candidate polish their message. Just consider those who ran with a contested primary last year versus those who didn't- and who ultimately won in the general.

Posted by: PoliticalJunkie on July 19, 2005 12:42 PM
55. To PoliticalJunkie:

If you have followed state politics at all here recently, you know name ID does not means nothing before big-time campaigning begins. I cite: who was Rob McKenna, an Eastside King County Councilman, compared to Deborah Senn, previously elected twice statewide? Who was Dino Rossi, a mid-ranking Eastside Senator, compared to Witchstine Gregoire, a 3-term state AG? For that matter, who was Maria Cantwell, an executive of crappy internet video software, compared to Slade Gorton, 3-term Senator, 3-term AG, savior of the Mariners, etc. etc.?

Yes McGavick has a tough race, and I'm not guaranteeing victory, but don't write him off just because 90% of "normal" (read: apathetic) Washingtonians don't know who he is yet.

We've all seen/heard the Survey USA poll which puts Dino way in front of Cant(domuch)well. Yes, Dino is a great guy, but I don't buy that he is the only Republican in all of Washington who can beat Maria. I'm guessing those polled had never heard of anybody else mentioned in the poll except for Dino. I tend to look at that poll and subsitute "Dino Rossi" with "young, attractive, pro-business, straight-shooting, time-for-change conservative." And McGavick fits that. People will learn his name soon enough--its the U.S. Senate, not a school board race.

Also, I have it from well placed people that his campaign will be headed up by ex-Dino people and some ex-Slade people. This isn't big news, but it shows that McGavick is serious, and has some bright people helping him out.

Posted by: ARS on July 19, 2005 01:03 PM
56. I think you're missing the point.
It was through the rigors of a campaign that people learned of those who you referred to as unknown. I would say they were perhaps more well known than Mr McGavick. Also, we really don't know much of his positions right now because he hasn't been asked directly. And don't always assume a CEO of a big company has "conservative" positions, there are many "successful" CEO's who have quite moderate views on many issues. It will not only be a race about business.

Also, the folks you mentioned, no matter how unknown they were, they all had been elected to something.

I am just saying that one should keep his/her mind open at this point.

Posted by: PoliticalJunkie on July 19, 2005 01:17 PM
57. I heard that McGavick is pro choice or should I say pro baby killing. If that is true I for one am not voting for him.

Posted by: Kirk on July 19, 2005 01:39 PM
58. I’m pro-life but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t vote for McGavick. Conservatives/GOPers are on both sides of that issue. I don’t think we’ll ever eliminate abortion in this country, but that doesn’t mean we can’t pass Parental Notification & Waiting-Period laws – which many pro-choice folks support. We need to take baby-steps (no pun intended) on the abortion issue because it’s too polarizing. In order to win, GOP candidates in WA need to attract the Independent vote. The focus should be on making abortion available with restrictions & educating women on other options that are better for them & their unborn children, like adoption.

Posted by: SweetNSassyinSeattle on July 19, 2005 02:07 PM
59. Yes, McGavick would be considered pro-chioce. But this is where we will be able to judge his campaign's political-saavy. There are a lot of very conservative Washingtonians out there who are staunch opponents of abortion. But I've never heard of anyone supporting a pro-choice Dem only out of spite for a pro-choice Rep. So if these folks choose to vote, they will still choose McGavick, so the trick is to lure them to the polls in the first place. This Senate race is at the very top of the ballot. No Presidential or Gubernatorial stuff, this one's the headliner. McGavick and co. will simply need to offer another reason for the "religious" conservatives to come and vote.

Posted by: ARS on July 19, 2005 02:30 PM
60. One more thing: I agree with Sweetnsassy. Abortion will probably always be here to stay in some form. The trick is restricting the really sickening aspects of the practice (late term, etc) and promoting alternatives like adoption and abstinence.

And momentarily divorcing myself from my moral viewpoints, let me say, from a political standpoint, it is good to have abortion legal. Pro-lifers can always rally up frenzied support from extreme rightists dead-set against abortion. If abortion were outlawed competely, a lot of those people would sit down and shut up, and the Dems would be able to whip extreme leftists into shape and turn them out to the polls. Legalized abortion gives the conservatives an extra political bullet or two.

Posted by: ARS on July 19, 2005 02:35 PM
61. I had a real beef with what McGavick had to say in the speech posted above. His motivation for calling for the privitization of the state universities seems to be that because private schools can have affirmative action, the universities should be private. This is a poor, and alarming, justification for untethering the universities from the state.

Posted by: ed on July 19, 2005 06:02 PM
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