The AP reports "King County sheriff's office investigating possible animal abuse"
The investigation was launched this month after authorities discovered the July 2 death of a man who suffered internal bleeding after engaging in [certain unnatural acts] with a horse at the farmI guess either the man, or the horse, or both should qualify for benefits under the Seattle City Council's 2002 Sex Industry Victims Ordinance Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at July 14, 2005 07:43 PM | Email This
I understand Goldy is somewhat blaming himself for this tragedy. Afterall, Goldstein did work feverishly to try and get Eyman named a HORSESASS. And Goldstein did run around taking credit for screwing Eyman. Perhaps Goldy's life partner got too into the Goldy's putrid rhetoric.
Posted by: Mr. Cyncial on July 14, 2005 08:10 PMAs for the farm......... ugh!
Posted by: sgmmac on July 14, 2005 09:14 PMRectal Impaction Following Enema with Concrete Mix
http://www.well.com/user/cynsa/cement.html
Posted by: JDH on July 14, 2005 09:20 PMWe found this guy in the barn with his trouser at half mast with a very nice horseshoe print in the center of his chest, rigor mortis had set in by the time we got there. Guy had apparently living like a hermit for years in woods near the farm.
Posted by: JCM on July 14, 2005 09:28 PMSo freaking perverted. Yuck.
Posted by: Cydney on July 14, 2005 10:42 PMAnd on his farm he had a horse
Ee-yi-Ee-yi-oh
With an ouch-ouch here
And rip-rip there
Here an ouch
There a rip
Everywhere the blood drips
Old McGoldstein had a farm
Ee-Yi-Ee-Yi-ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sh*t!!
I guess my sympathy gland is not functioning tonite....too much coffee today.
I wonder if the horse was practicing "safe sex"??
Shhhhhhh I shouldn't give them any new dumb ideas! Damn!
Posted by: GS on July 14, 2005 11:02 PMPUKE
Posted by: PC on July 14, 2005 11:30 PMThis "sex industry victims" ordinance is just as gross. It's just another example of the gender feminist ideology that runs Seattle. Never mind that going into prostitution is generally a choice someone willingly makes in a free society.
But, in the case, my vote goes to horse.
I hope the investigation turns of this whaky farm's client list. Anyone want to bet whether there are a few members from our legislature on that list?
Posted by: BananaLand(aka Iguana) on July 14, 2005 11:44 PMI mean, he's getting his ass handed to him by I-912 and it's my belief that insults about horses, Goldstein, and asses are not needed in this time period.
And PC: Dead on.
Posted by: Sailor Republica on July 14, 2005 11:47 PMOh my God!
(snicker........)
I had no idea that Republicans were such animal lovers!
Posted by: A Moderate on July 15, 2005 02:44 AMKinda like the folks who thought Rossi had a solid case in court.
Posted by: stan on July 15, 2005 05:16 AM/sarc
Posted by: V the K on July 15, 2005 06:39 AMI had no idea that Republicans were such animal lovers!
I don't get it. Are you saying that becuase Enumclaw votes PREDOMINANTLY rebublican means that ALL PEOPLE living there must then be rebublican? Does that mean, then, that ANY democrat votes received in those precincts are in fact fraudulent?
WOW. the fraudulent vote problem must be magnitudes worse that we thought.
Talk about abusing logic. Almost as sick as the original post. *sigh*
Posted by: Eyago on July 15, 2005 06:40 AMStay out of my barn.
(Hay, A Moderate, that means you too!)
Posted by: Mr. Ed ( of course) on July 15, 2005 06:42 AMAt least we conservatives aren't trying to change the constitution so that we can marry animals - that would be you liberals.
Posted by: Larry on July 15, 2005 08:17 AMMr Goldstein has been needlessly smeared....a man is dead...not funny anymore!
We have enough issues to abuse the other side without losing our good home schooling
Posted by: alf777 on July 15, 2005 08:18 AMAs far as the dead guy goes...did you ever hear of consequences for actions? I doubt too many people feel sorry for him.
Posted by: Mr. Cynical on July 15, 2005 08:35 AMJust a thought.
It would explain a lot of what has gone on.
Has anyone asked the horse if he enjoyed the romp in the hay? Has anyone contacted PETA to congratulate them on the inspired animal rights legislation which allows our four-footed friends to share intimate experiences with mere bi-peds? And what about the counseling services for the horse, who has is likely suffering some sort of pshchological trauma. Losing a loving life partner is a painful experience. I suspect we in Washington have some sort of compensation legislation out there which will allow the horse to better cope with the loss.
Are we sure it was a horse? It may have been a donkey, merely illustrating what happens to Washington citizens when a herd of donkeys takes over in Olympia. Perhaps in Olympia, "kiss my ass" really is a term of endearment.
Well, donkey doo, this certainly has been an enlightening morning. Ick.
Posted by: duhh on July 15, 2005 09:54 AMIt's legal in the State of Washington.
If this was an issue the Democratically controlled State of Washington surely would have passed "emergency" legislation to go along with all the other emergencies they passed.
What happened to respecting those with alternative lifestyles? Where is the tolerance? Perhaps this should be celebrated? tought in public schools?
Posted by: more tolerance on July 15, 2005 09:56 AM
a moderate my granny's panties!
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 15, 2005 10:54 AMI wonder if there will be any investigation as to if the horse "finished" or not. I'm sure some liberal organization will lead that charge. Wouldn't want to horse to feel unsatisfied and confused in some way. We better start some new government program staffed with hundreds of people to look into this.
Also, yes Enumclaw is for sure red but the article didn't say he was from Enumclaw. I'm thinking Capital Hill.
Posted by: Ben on July 15, 2005 02:49 PMI won't deny that animal-lovin' occurs (duh, just read the article) but to say that it "only" or even predominately occurs among gays is pretty naive.
Sexual orientation may influence the manor in which the actions occur, but I don't think it has any influence on the rate of occurance.
It is peculiar that this isn't already illegal, and it should be, but seriously folks, trying to equate or lump together humans that go for humans of the same gender, with people that like livestock is a stretch.
Posted by: Darth Dogbert on July 15, 2005 03:15 PMSeveral years ago however there was a case where an individual from SEATTLE was caught trepassing in a farmers' barn and molesting his goats. The sheriff was called and a restraining order obtained. Soon there after that, the same individual was found in violation of the same goat and the restraining order as well. The property owner demanded that the assailant exit the property as well, at which time the assailent became beligerant and the homeowner responded with a barrel of 12-gauge shot to the knees. No charges were filed beyond violation of the restraining order.
Moral of the story is that not only do the Seattle establishment work feverishly to relieve us of our property, they also work to destroy our livestock as well. When a society refuses to govern itself - as we also see in the elections fraud and corruptions in office - then is the society flirting with epic disaster. The consequenses of the denegration of law and order is no law and order. The consequences of the destruction of the family organization is to have no family organization. The consequense of hedonism is anarchy. The consequence of self-exalting pride is abasing desolation.
Posted by: mogura on July 15, 2005 03:32 PMThe gay folks like folks, the gay dead dude liked Mr. Ed. Let's not lump them all into the same pot. Like there are some parents who should not have kids in their meth lab houses, or physically abusive families, there are lots of gays who are really very decent folks. It is not as easy as straight=good, gay=bad. Get over it.
Reckless behaviour does have consequences. Dead dude was over the line with this. So are the SUV driving dudes who venture into avalanche zones and leave a grieving family behind when 45 thousand tons of snow bury their selfish REI clad corpses. Like skydiving without a spare chute is a pretty good way to guarantee eventual sudden death by velocity, anal sex without condoms is a recipe for HIV. Do it, get it. You die. Don't ask me to bring flowers, or make a quilt.
This isn't about politics. It is about bad personal choices. And consequences. The behaviour was a bad choice. The consequences fit the bahaviour. Personal responsibility for personal behaviour. Give the horse a carrot.
Darwin was right. If anyone doubts the notion of self-selection for deletion from the gene pool, I give you Exhibit A.
Posted by: duhh on July 15, 2005 03:52 PMI can understand how you might have difficulties differentiating the two however ;'}
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 15, 2005 04:01 PMDarth you raise a good point. I think it gets lumped together because most people consider normal sex to be between a man and a woman. Therefore, acts such as these, would get lumped into the abonormal sex category with homosexual sex. I would agree with you that there are definately varying degrees of abnormal and that same sex if far less deviant than horse sex. To further clarify my position, I would support a law that bans sex with animals (although its sad that we need one), but, I would not support a law that tried to ban any type of sex between two consenting adults.
Posted by: Ben on July 15, 2005 04:30 PMNote also that the story did say this apparently has been going on for awhile - which would lead a reasonable person to think that maybe the property owner (or horse pimp?) was in on it.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002382718_horse15m.html
Posted by: Burdabee on July 15, 2005 04:53 PMBTW - This kind of reminds me of a case a few years ago in the north end when they couldn't prosecute someone for molesting a body at a funeral home because it had never occurred to anyone that a law against it needed to be passed. Needless to say, that omission was corrected quickly enough.
Posted by: Mr. X on July 15, 2005 04:57 PM A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
And no one can talk to a horse of course
That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. X.
Go right to the source and ask the horse
He’ll give you the answer that you’ll endorse.
He’s always on a steady course.
Talk to Mr. X.
People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day
But Mr. Ed will never speak unless he has something to say
A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
And this one’ll talk ‘til his voice is hoarse.
You never heard of a talking horse?
Well listen to this: "I am Mr. X."
Posted by: alphabet soup on July 15, 2005 04:58 PMIf the horse were a Clydesdale, the pervert would have been crushed when mounted rather than reamed.
I wonder what the dead guy's last words were?
Probably "OUCH!!"
Thanks, local media. Why us? Stupidity or the projection of same by a loyal, pro-Seattle local media? Why are they not flooding the air with our good traits? Media prostitutes. Air our underwear to be noble? Jackasses. Thanks for the pub. relations.
Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on July 15, 2005 09:27 PMIf you've never seen straight people do what the gays do in their parade, then you obviously haven't seen the parade they hold in Fremont (forgot the name of it), been to Mardi Gras, lived in a college dorm or been in a frat house, or gotten out much in general. I'm inclined to believe that you would consider anything outside of the missionary postion to be deviant.
Last point: hetrosexual sex has plenty of worrisome consequences - unplanned pregnancy and STD's including HIV (which if you look at the worldwide infection rates, is predominately spread through hetrosexual sex and IV drug users). Just not buying that hetrosexuals have nothing to worry about.
Posted by: Darth Dogbert on July 16, 2005 02:02 AMWell, I've lived in a college dorm and a frat house, and I've been to Mardi Gras, and I've never seen straight couples marching down a public street in broad daylight wearing buttless chaps and leather speedos, dragging each other on dog chains, dressed up like perverted nuns, or seen anything like this in any of those places.
I'm pretty tolerant of sexual deviance, but I'm also firmly in the "as long as they don't do it in the street and scare the horses" camp. Or do anything else to the horses for that matter.
Posted by: V the K on July 16, 2005 06:58 AMAs in horse's ass.com
Posted by: sweetpea on July 16, 2005 09:09 AMAnd probably fingerprints, too.
Goldy's toast, and not a moment too soon. At least now we clearly know the type of mindset that produces the effluent he spews and the "life partner" he picked.
Three guesses who dropped off soon-to-be-dead guy at the hospital.
Posted by: platypus on July 16, 2005 09:39 AMYes, I am gay...but I am also staunchly Republican, a Christian, and fairly conservative (something that perplexes many of the people I meet). I've been a critic of the pride parades for a variety of reasons, and I won't try to defend the debauchery and stunts that go on there. The point is that behavior such as this is not is not limited only to gays - there is much of it that goes on within the hetrosexual, it's just concealled better.
I don't live on Capital Hill or even in Seattle. I'm nestled quite comfortably on the Eastside and you won't find any rainbow stickers on my truck. My sexuality is part of who I am, but it's not my overriding concern, the center of my life, or something that I feel the need to talk about to every person that I encounter. As a friend of mine is fond of saying "I'm gay, not stupid."
Posted by: Darth Dogbert on July 16, 2005 10:43 AMWill the horse be arrested for 'domesticated' violence?
Was the man at a "heavy petting" zoo?
Sorry, folks. Really, really sorry...
Posted by: ERNurse on July 16, 2005 06:45 PMTo ERNurse - never apologize for hitting below the belt; it's the only thing that really gets their attention. And it's damn effective, to boot.
To Darth Dogbert - my sincere sympathies for your choice to pervert yourself for pleasure. As the horse story shows, sooner or later the lifestyle will take you beyond all rational thinking and into death.
Regardless of the dead man's life history, it is all erased by one act of incomprehensible lunacy; a shameful act that is different from the daily activities of your deviant subdivision only by degree.
Your choice of perverted gratification techniques is nothing to brag about. Or to defend.
I sincerely hope you mature enough to reject it. At the end of your days, society will never celebrate it and most likely will simply ignore it in an effort to maintain public dignity.
Imagine that. What you say you are cannot and will not ever be socially lauded.
So what is the worth of your life, to society at large, if that is the result of you?
Posted by: platypus on July 16, 2005 08:06 PMPlatypus, as I stated before my sexuality isn't the overriding concern or the center of my life. I don't seek recognition as "a gay" - it's not something that I flaunt or tell everyone I meet about, because for the most part it's not relevant to my everyday life.
At the end, the worth and value of my life won't be decided by who I had sex with, it'll be in what I've accomplished and what I leave behind. That I was gay will just be a footnote in the story, and that's all it needs to be.
If you want to judge me, go for it....but judge me for who I am as an individual, not as part of some group.
Posted by: Darth Dogbert on July 16, 2005 11:02 PMYou're gay? So what? A total non-issue. You're probably as embarrased by many of your gay bretheren as I am by many of my straight sided crowd. Seems to me that Jesus was rather accepting of most folks, hanging out with what today would be considered the undesirable crowd. It was then, too. It's Sunday folks. A good day to ponder inclusion and understanding.
And regarding our media bringing on some sort of regional embarassment, who really believes the media does anything with a noble purpose? They are writers of fiction and fable and bent truths with the intention of making money, exerting "power", and generally looking out for their own well-being. Not sorry (just shocked) if this is a surprise to anyone.
Posted by: duhh on July 17, 2005 12:41 PM
What is in the heart and in the head is manifested in our actions. The two cannot be at odds with each other. That is what is known as character
"Our character is what we do when we think no one is looking."
~H. Jackson Browne
Posted by: PC on July 15, 2005 10:12 PM"
okay, first off, please do not link your ilk with all straight people by saying "us straights" like we are all the same... you are a sad and hateful person, I am not. I don't think it's my business who darth or anyone else has sex with, as long as both parties are consenting adults, of the human variety. to say that they are the same as people who have sex with animals is ludicrous. also, as to your never having seen the type of behavior seen in a pride parade being done between heterosexuals is a flat out lie, unless you have never left your home or turned on the t.v. There are plenty of straight couples who swap partners (and p.s. multiple partners is the main reason that hiv is spread through sex, not where the penis is placed... also, straight guys have anal too, they just put it in a female butt... are you honestly going to say that the male ass is more receptive to the virus or something?), tie eachother up, wear leashes and leather, and dress up as naughty nuns, cops, maids and so forth... I find it strange that so many people claim to be christians, (followers of christ... you've heard of him, right? he LOVED people... all people... even prostitutes, alchoholics, and so forth...) are so damn judgemental... what was it that God asked of us? Oh yeah, that we leave judgement up to him, that we love our neighbor, that we do unto others... weird... guess you get to pick and choose what you want, right? only that which fits your hateful mindset qualifies? my God is not hateful, and would never want me to talk with the casual cruelty and filth that you spout. WWJD? probably smack the hell out of you...
Posted by: kj on July 20, 2005 08:56 AMHe's not exactly a raving liberal, and yet he admitted to Alan Colmes that he used to have sex with farm animals. He even implied that the act was commonplace among those raised on the verdant farms of liberal Georgia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Horsley
Looks like the sex with animals action is something idiots on all sides of the political spectrum can get behind (pun intended).
In the (now) immortal words of Mr. Horsly: "If it's warm and it's damp and it vibrates you might in fact have sex with it."
Posted by: Seattle Slough on July 25, 2005 02:16 PM