July 13, 2005
"No new gas tax" movement is being heard

The state will defer sales of bonds backed by the gas tax if I-912 makes the ballot, which appears certain. Somebody in Olympia is listening. Good.

Also listening on the subject of the gas tax is the P-I's Joel Connelly. Once you get past his superciliousness ("take on the right wing for dividing the state, and hold it to account for destructive naysaying") he acknowledges the root causes of the "naysaying"

The burdened middle class cries out for relief ... Rethink the gold-plated $4.5 billion viaduct tunnel replacement plan. What can we do with the $2 billion the Legislature has put up? ... Curb the mayor and deputy mayor. Greg Nickels and Tim Ceis have yet to meet a transportation project -- or any project -- they don't like. The city is picking up part of the cost on the $50 million South Lake Union streetcar.

Put a Ceis-and-desist order on such boondoggles.

It's refreshing when a liberal columnist complains about fiscally irresponsible government for a change.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at July 13, 2005 08:53 AM | Email This
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1. To be perfectly fair to Mr. Connelly it could be in the category of "the stopped watch being correct twice a day."

On the other hand, perhaps on some subliminal level even leftist moonbats (redundant, I know) have a primal sense that their pocketbooks are affected (or infected) by this costly nonsense along with those of everyone else.

I would love it if some of this cost/rider info would reach banner level in the msm. As my coffee kicks in I expect to waken from my reverie.

Conversely, perhaps the powers that be will wake up and properly begin awarding Pulitzers to SS and others in the blogosphere that are doing the heavy lifting.

Posted by: scott158 on July 13, 2005 09:46 AM
2. Well, that's the first sensible thing this state government has done on transportation this year.

Posted by: Palouse on July 13, 2005 09:48 AM
3. Typical Liberal tactics. Attack the right. Blame them. Then the local liberals can say see it is the Rights fault. Many of them will only read the first few paragraphs. They will miss the last half. Thereby the Newspaper can trash the right and say the article is factual. Just because many readers only read the first couple of paragraphs is not our fault. How many liberals will increase thier hate for the right because of the way the article is written. We know that Joel will never outright say the Right has got it right for a change. No He will trash them first and then chokingly hint that the right is on the right track.
Why can not the press be honest reporters. And say the truth instead of hiding it at the end.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on July 13, 2005 09:49 AM
4. When a dipsh*t like Joel Connelly can see that the Alaskan Way Viaduct tunnel is no more than a beautification of the Seattle Waterfront to line the pockets of LEFTIST PINHEAD DEVELOPERS....there is NO DOUBT this Gas Tax increase is going down big time.

The FIX was on. Get the rest of the State to pay for a waterfront beautification in the name of a transportation EMERGENCY to line the pockets of LEFTIST PINHEAD cronies. Bad try===No Sale!

Stefan---I think Connelly is a regular reader of SoundPolitics. While I believe Connelly is still a dipsh*t and will always be a dipsh*t...when he actually begins to see the reality every 10 years or so....it's refreshing. God does work in mysterious ways!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on July 13, 2005 09:50 AM
5. Well, if any side of the argument is looking to quote the PI (Joel) in their favor, this article may give them that.

Joel states that, "The three-step 9.5-cent a gallon gas tax increase is a systematic plan to unclog the state's greatest bottlenecks. I-405, the viaduct, and the Evergreen Point Bridge get about half the money."

Another lane on 405 may help, but the plans I've seen so far for the viaduct and Evergreen Point Bridge are only replacements and don't really answer congestion - of course, we have 2.5 billion allocated and don't yet know what for sure it is to pay for. The mismanagement and waste at Sound Transit and the monorail have made gunshy taxpayers even more leary of promises by politicians. We want to see more concrete evidence from them that our money will be well (in our eyes). We want projects on time and on budget. We want congestion relief.

Joel makes his usual comments about conservatives, but then he states, "Republican activists, shut out of the statehouse for two decades, retaliate against perceived spending plans by "liberals."".

If Rebublican activists have been shut out for two decades, who's been running the show (rhetorical)? Why didn't they solve it 10-15 years ago?

Of course, I do need to applaud Joel's final comments. For once, he is right on.

Posted by: SouthernRoots on July 13, 2005 09:59 AM
6. Money well spent, that is.

Posted by: SouthernRoots on July 13, 2005 10:02 AM
7. "It's the treasurer's policy that any time there is a cloud over a bond issue, we don't issue the bonds,"

Too bad the elections department didnt have the same policy....

Posted by: chris on July 13, 2005 10:03 AM
8. Gregoire must be out of the country again, as she knows better than the citizens what the citizens want, and would be out hawking the junk bonds on streetcorners to bypass the initiative.

The author was correct that many of these projects such as the monorail just deliver expenses and no product.

Where the left has this wrong, is who exactly was signing these initaitives. It was not just republicans, but democrats and liberals also flocked to the initiative. This massive Gas tax will die as the last attempt at a 9 cent gas tax was killed by the people.

He is right that many of these projects need to be eliminated or scaled way way back. We do not need a 4+++++ Billion Viaduct Tunnel when we can fix the existing bridge or build a brand new one for more than half the cost.

We just blew 60 billion on a failed bridge dig, and you want to dig up the entire front of seattle with no expectation of finding artifacts.

Anyone who believes that the viaduct tunnel cost will even resemble the 4 billion estimate, should have their medical marijauna prescription renewed!

Posted by: GS on July 13, 2005 10:07 AM
9. I saw the lady that stole the governors office on the news yesterday and she said the first brilliant thing I have heard her say yet. She said that we shouldnt sell bonds until I-912 gets voted on, brilliant Chrissy!

Posted by: Chuck on July 13, 2005 10:31 AM
10. "But bucks go also to stretches such as state Route 26 in Adams County, known to Pullman travelers for speed traps and dangerous passing."

Huh???? Why should I, a permanent Pullman resident, care about a road that is 175 miles to the west of Pullman? I suppose WSU students and their parents care, but they are residents of Kent, Seattle, Bellevue, Olympia, Tacoma, et. al. if they are driving over to Pullman on SR 26. We have a road just a half-mile east of the town that needs widening on which 3 WSU students died a few years back, but we are still waiting because WSDOT has mismanaged the project.

Dangerous passing? That can be applied to all of SR 26. I don't recall seeing the widening of the entire 150 or so mile length of SR 26 on the list of gas tax projects. What is accomplished by widening just one stretch in Adams County?

However, if Mr Connelly can guarantee that the WSP will no longer patrol SR 26, I'm voting against I-912.

It's amazing how desperate these idiots get when trying to defend this unfair tax, especially with regards to Eastern Washington. Now let's scare the WSU parents into voting against I-912.

Posted by: Felis Concolor on July 13, 2005 10:38 AM
11. Given that the politicians' backs are really, really sore from patting themselves over this great achievement in the first few months, what do think the spin will be when the people totally reject this great achievement? It will be interesting to watch. The MSM saying how stupid the electorate is, blaming it on the right wingers (in this predominately red state) etc. etc.

Posted by: fred on July 13, 2005 10:43 AM
12. Somewhat off track, but given the comment about I-405, I gotta ask what the recent construction in Bellevue around NE 8th accomplished. Before the construction, traffic was woefully bad. During the construction, same thing. After all is supposedly done, the afternoon traffic on southbound I-405 through Bellevue until Coal Creek exit is worse than ever. Between 4-7PM, it often takes 15 minutes or longer to go from where SR520 meets to I-90 interchange.

No wonder people are fed up with all the construction projects that accomplish nothing.

Posted by: C. Oh on July 13, 2005 11:23 AM
13. C.Oh, I've wondered the same thing about that I-405 overpass in Bellevue. It did add a special on ramp for HOV buses however (woo-hoo!).

Connelly also dishonestly intimates that the new gas tax will relieve congestion on I-405. While that may be true in certain spots with the money allocated to new onramps and such, if you travel between Bellevue and Southcenter, that new gas tax doesn't build even one new lane in either direction. That mega-project still needs funding.

Posted by: Palouse on July 13, 2005 11:32 AM
14. I will be (sickly) fascinated to watch the spin campaign in the justification of a gas tax and the selling of it to the general public. There are those who I believe will be swayed by the apocalyptic visions of bridges crumbling, streets caving, dogs and cats living together...mass hysteria.

I will also be fascinated to see if the Re-Elect Rossi/Revoter movement will somehow shoulder the blame when the voters send the gas tax packing...

Posted by: flexnfx on July 13, 2005 12:12 PM
15. Palouse, C Oh,

Exactly. Until we start adding lanes (AND NOT HOV LANES) to the key freeways that carry the largest volumes of traffic to the denser areas, we won't solve our problems. Sure we need to retrofit 520 and the Viaduct to keep them functional, but where are the proposals to widen I-5 through downtown, widen 167, widen and straighten 405, etc. These are the key chokepoints.

Building light rail and tunnels and monorails and other stupid boondoggles are all just distractions from the real transportation probelms facing the Sound. Ultimately, the failure to address these problems in a timely manner is going to drive business out of WA.

We'll have Locke, Gregoire and a whole host of bickering liberals to thank for spending the last 40 years planning with very little results.

Posted by: Jeff B. on July 13, 2005 12:14 PM
16. Construct the viaduct out of solidified Kevlar. Explosion proof, bulletproof, crumble proof but not graffitti proof. Homeless are protected when terrorist rounds rain down and bounce off. See?--multiple civic goals--protect the homeless and drive ON a "drive-by-resistant structure." Sensitivity given to all--the homeless, the gangs, the innocent drivers. How can this fail?!

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on July 13, 2005 01:34 PM
17. Does anyone remember that Clint Eastwood movie called the Gauntlet???
I can visualize the rest of the state descending upon Seattle in our armored Vehicles with the LEFTIST PINHEADS shooting at us with little wadded up Seattle P-I's trying to stop us with spitwads!!
It ain't gonna work.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on July 13, 2005 04:26 PM
18. I moved to Arizona 3 years ago and one of the first things which struck me is how different the attitude of public officials toward the public is down here (even given the fact that the gov is a Democrat). If a street develops a pothole it is literally fixed within 24 hours. Contrast that with Seattle's northend streets which disable any car unfortunate to have to drive on them. Freeways here actually have lanes and actually move traffic. I saw all the millions (billions?) wasted not only on freeways, but on local streets all around Puget Sound, as you say, simply to rebuild what was already there (not to mention Unsound Transit and the Monorail). Great examples of waste are Novelty Hill Rd and Willows Rd in Redmond. Adding ridiculous turn lanes and even more ridiculous suicide lanes, but absolutely no new through lanes, because then people would drive, and we can't have that! And no new freeways or major arterials to improve traffic.

The powers that run Puget Sound just want transportation money so they can pretend to solve problems and line the pockets of their developer friends.

I should do what some of your more famous voters (the one from Georgia and all the dead ones come to mind) have done and vote NO on 912 just for the fun of poking the politicians in the eye.

Posted by: Former Seattle Resident on July 13, 2005 04:28 PM
19. "Ceis-and-desist order." Ha. Nice turn of phrase.

Posted by: jsa on July 13, 2005 05:45 PM
20. Gee For once some of what Joel Connely said on here & KVI with John Carlson I agreed with especaily the part about a heaping serving of humble pie!!

Posted by: Laurie on July 13, 2005 09:44 PM
21. Not sure I give Treasurer or Olympia any credit for common sense. Maybe the bond buyers are unwilling to purchase in Washington given the uncertain future of the money base and our idiot politicians.

Posted by: dl on July 14, 2005 12:00 AM
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