King County Elections spokeswoman Bobbie Egan e-mailed:
I want to clarify for you the advice given by the King County Prosecuting Attorney to help you and visitors to your blog understand the advice given to us by the PAO.As I wrote back to Ms. Egan and cc:ed the Prosecutor's OfficeThe Prosecuting Attorney's Office advised the Elections Division that it should not do anything that could prejudice the legal position of any party to the Election Contest litigation. Based on that advice, the uncounted ballots were sealed and remained sealed until the litigation was concluded. The parties to the Election Contest had the opportunity to seek an order from the judge regarding these ballots and the Elections Division was prepared to comply with such an order. Sealing the uncounted ballots and awaiting possible direction from the court was consistent with the position taken by other counties that found uncounted ballots in the months leading to the Election Contest trial.
"This clarification would be more persuasive if it also referenced the specific statutory exemption to the Public Disclosure Act upon which the PAO relied when it advised you to deny my records request."Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at June 14, 2005 05:33 PM | Email This
As Dirk's Bentley sang:
Chrissy---How you doin' since you did what ya d--d-done to me!!
And knows where they've been....
Posted by: Dogbert on June 14, 2005 07:21 PMI think Ron Sims is on a political suicide mission....again.
This time he's enforcing his "Big Brother" "Good Home training" on King County employees!
If you smoke cigarettes, are overweight, eat at McDonalds, drive 5 MPH over the speed limit or partake in any of the other communist deemed "unhealthy" habits or lifestyles - and are a King County employee - you will be charged greatly in your monthly insurance premiums!
13,000 King County employees will be asked to *confidentially* divulge whether they are overweight or engage in other health related vices...Those who choose not to answer will be charged the higher rates!!
You know, I was a banker for 25 years. I worked with smokers, the obese, junk food eaters, etc...at corporate offices in 5 different banks - in 2 states - and I cannot recall any one particular group of people (as classified by KC's unhealthy list) of costing the bank any more than those considered with *Healthy* habits. I hate to say it - but my most dedicated staff for years were smokers, overweight and junk food eaters! It has been my experience - over 25 years, that these people rarely called in sick. It was usually those who constantly worried about their health - that ended up out sick more often!
It's true! The water drinkers - who shunned the coffee maker - walked their lunchtimes away and bought expensive gym memberships - were always ill or injured!
Remember how healthy we were before health became a hot-button, political issue? Now everyone is ill with some bizarre disorder or another - that can't honestly be tied to bad habits (otherwise we would have all died out about 75 years ago)...But there is big money to be made by local governments (sin taxes), and Insurance companies - in the assumption that these habits are the cause...
Incredible!
We definitely live in communist King County!
Posted by: Deborah on June 14, 2005 07:39 PMAlso Deborah is right -- the jogger types are costing their fellow citizens big bucks with their bum'd out knees and enlarged hearts. They really are not fitness freaks, they are endorphin junkies that go into (literally) withdrawl when their knees won't take any more.
Also know lots of creative and well to do types who smoke -- one old rich guy I knew (commodities and real estate) chain smoked cigs and cigars, drank whiskey out of a bottle, ate beef steak most every night, and chased women (ofter his wife died, of course) he died at 90 something. Used to say: "If I wanted to exercise, I'd hire somebody to do it for me..." --
Posted by: Lew on June 14, 2005 07:59 PMThey need to get out the information about where these forms were so people have a chance to sign them again --
Posted by: Bill on June 14, 2005 08:33 PMWho is less likely to incur health costs:
(a) someone over the weight limit (which is constantly changing anyway, and didn't a study come out recently that said slightly chubbier people are healthy than the thin?), but monogamous; or
(b) a thin person who sleeps around and picks up STDs like a black sweater picks up cat hair? Promiscuity is responsible for so many diseases, some of which (e.g., chlamydia) lead to cancer.
Bill.....
You are correct!
In fact - most of the oppressive laws, policies and ordinances dished out by Ron Sims and King County are excersizes in social conditioning. Behavior modification and psyc-ops....etc...
I remember the military hospitals and commissaries used to have arrows taped on their floors to direct patients and shoppers. If you went down an aisle - against the direction an arrow was pointing..you were stared at by fellow patrons and scolded by the staff! As a woman visiting the base hospital - you were herded like cattle into a waiting room - usually with 30 or more women....following those arrows....
It's all about control and conditioning - but King and other counties are attempting to implement it on a grander scale!
Most of these concepts were born in the United Nations. The UN has been trying to get the US to sign it's anti-tobacco treaty for years now. Bush declined - saying something about our nations civil rights? Now the UN is on an obese kick and anti-junk-food kick...
The Democrats in congress have tried everything to oblige the UN....including dissin our troops, hating Bush, oppressing our rights, ignoring our borders, dumbing down our public education and spreading anti-American sentiment around the globe through their mouthpiece media!
They are accomplishing this on community, city, county and state levels in parts of this country - and we are in one of the hot spots!
Is it me? Or does it appear that the Democrats in our nation have gone communist and globalist and have said "to Hell" with our constitutional rights?
Sorry for the drift Stefan.....
I have put the soapbox back into the garage...heh..
And now back to our topic!
Posted by: Deborah on June 14, 2005 10:46 PMLaura Ingraham a couple hrs ago was talking about a STUDY of kids who have taken a virginity pledge and stuck to it were free of any STD's - wow actually took a study to figger that out - wonder how many phd feces and gov'mint (yours and mine) money went into that boondoggle??? -- does KC give good marks to families whose children have taken this 'pledge' ?? - 'ell we didn't need no stinking pledge - OR STUDY - we just didn't get any (much) and did our best to have respect for each other --
Pasted below is a post I left on the site re BH's new job -- getting carried away but thought it worth repeating in this thread
What a complete joke - the absentee ballot system/process was set up for disabled/elderly/handicapped people who have trouble getting to the polls -- and people who are legitimently out of the area -- over the last twenty years or so it has been systematically perverted to make it easier and easier - more convenient to vote -- there is no way that handicapped voting provisions need to be installed at any polling place -- the Bolshevic SOB's are doing everything they can to disrupt the proper and traditional ideas/attitudes/and procedures that have brought this country along -- Their motor voter BS - get out the vote BS - moveon voter drives (like scrap drives) - registering at the county buildings - all mail-in voting - at the same time requiring all the counties in the country to install handicapped voting facilities - straight out of Animal Farm and 1984 -- crap - all crap
The first election I remember was 1952 and during the afternoon I can remember my mother getting ready to go vote -- I thought she was getting ready to go to church --
The internal enemies of the US - make no mistake - they are here and are extremely active -- and have been largely successful -- they got scared a wee widdle bit with Nixon's "silent majority" phrase and got rocked a lot with Reagan but were still able to keep control of US congress and able to continue their domestic CRAP while Ronnie was busy cleaning up after Mr peanut and saving the whole damn world from the Rooskies -- yo trolls >> ASK ANY EASTERN EUROPEAN THAT GOT OUT IN THE LAST 50 or so YEARS ABOUT THAT!!! if ya need clarification > IF you can handle it -- the truth that is - unlikely -- OH yeh - don't pull up some scumbag bastard like SOROS -- I am talking about real people -- not the elete 'RATS that don't give a damn about where they are from OR where they currently are enjoying a land of milk and honey
The internal bolshevics are and have been screwing with our election system for the last 20 yrs or so -- bottom line is that their external allies are dwindling -- they lost MOTHA Russia and Eastern Europe and have been reduced to kissing Castro and No. Korea's butts -- although new allies seem to be surfacing in the EU and the UN - but those crap piles appear to be washing away in the wake of scandel investigations and votes by France (THE PEOPLE OF FRANCE -- THAT IS) and the Neatherlands -- getting a little lonelier out there for the Bolshevics/socialists these days and they are in a slow (subdued) camoflaged panic mode -- they are being hemmed in and starting to realize that they are being cornered - watch out - they will be very dangerous in the next few elections
THEY ARE NOW SO FAR DOWN THAT THEY ARE CHEERING ALONG THE TERRORISTS AND THE INSURGENTS IN IRAQ -- if you question that statement - pay attention for a while - any while - any few days of the incessent crap that has spewed out of the democRATS in congress over the last 3+ years
The most important thing to keep in mind here is that the specifics in the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution flew TOTALLY in the face of ALL of the existing power structures that existed at that time and most of these power structures and/or disguised forms of them still exist -- this includes ALL of the major religions of the WORLD, all of the royal families and their power structures -- AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS EVOLVED AND/OR DEVELOPED SINCE - sure a lot of countries have adopted some sort of constitution that kinda/sorta reads like the US' -- most are just imitations -- 'ell just go 150 miles north of here (Seattle) and you will be surrounded by 'subjects' -- just rhetoric you say??? - get stuffed
KEEP IN MIND THAT WHEN WE DECLARED INDEPENDENCE FROM BRITAIN -- WE WERE ACTUALLY DECLARING IDEPENDENCE FROM THE WHOLE WORLD -- OF COURSE MODERN REALITY REQUIRES THIS INDEPENDENCE TO BE OF A POLITICAL NATURE ONLY -- now keep this in mind -- the founders not only declared independence from their ancestral and ethnic homeland -- THEY PHYSICALLY FOUGHT THEM OFF -- many other ethnic groups over the years have done the same in one way or another -- some individuals have not
Posted by: Bill on June 14, 2005 11:48 PMLike I've said in the past....We are in a war!
I's up to everyone reach that conclusion in their own time - in their own way.
This election contest is the farthest the people have gone yet - in awareness - of what's happening to our state.....and to our country.
The corruption, rights violations and social engineering ploys, in the past, were orchestrated so smoothly - that people just scratched their heads and complied. They knew something was very wrong - but weren't willing to believe what was possibly happening...Now - with so much being exposed and uncovered.....people are waking up!
It's happening all over the country!
Posted by: Deborah on June 15, 2005 12:34 AMBe advised that if you are intimidated then you may well be in fear of bodily harm and a 911 call may be in order. To arrest the intimidators have this ready for the police.
RCW 29A.84.250
Violations -- Corrupt practices.
Every person is guilty of a gross misdemeanor who:
(4) Interferes with or attempts to interfere with the right of any voter to sign or not to sign an initiative or referendum petition or with the right to vote for or against an initiative or referendum measure by threats, intimidation, or any other corrupt means or practice; or
Gee, I'm sure glad they cleared that up. We wouldn't want anybody to think they run a partisan shop.
From my point of view, withholding relevant factual material showed a prejudice towards the eventual outcome of the litigation.
Posted by: Mr. Grabbit on June 15, 2005 08:20 AMI wonder if the questionaire will also ask two questions which are typical of any life insurance questionaire - about sexual preference and Aids. (I know, homosexuality and AIDS are "totally unrelated" wink-wink...). Dispite the "accepted unrelatedness" of the two, watch all hell break loose if THOSE questions are on the questionaire.
Posted by: Scott C on June 15, 2005 08:43 AMIt just goes to show, they aren't really that interested in Democracy. If they don't like the initiative process they should pass a law banning them or amend the process. If not, let the people have their say. Unfortunately, I don't think they are really that interested in people having a say in government.
Posted by: Marc on June 15, 2005 09:46 AMAarness, Judy K. Covington
Anderson, Harry E. Kent
Andrus, Martin R. Renton
Arnesen, Spencer Bellevue
Bacerdo, Sandra L. Bellevue
Bachmeier, Magdalena Renton
Beck, Karen Sue Mercer Island
Billingsley, Patricia A. Issaquah
Blount, John H. Tukwila
Brown, Elisabeth Mercer Island
Butts, Joseph W. Bellevue
Bye, Susan M. Renton
Calhoun, Mary J. Renton
Carter, Paul J. Mercer Island
Casebolt, Jamie Leeann Renton
Chharing, Diki D. Kent
Chharing, Kathy Kent
Church, Julie Ann Seattle
Clarberg, Barbara May Auburn
Crites, Gina L. Renton
Crites, Jeffrey D. Renton
Crow, Rod Seattle
Daltin, Vicky Kent
Darrah, James E. Renton
Ferry, Maude M. Mercer Island
Fitts, Monica Ann Maple Valley
Franke, Fred J. Renton
Franks, Jeffrey Kent
Gambino, Julie Seattle
Gray, Jewel P. Renton
Grissom, Aaron J. Kent
Grube, Doris A. Renton
Guenther, Ann E. Renton
Hammerly, Michelle A. Newcastle
Hampton III, Edward Lee Covington
Hander, Michael D. Auburn
Harris, Gaye M. Kirkland
Heilman, Sarah C. Newcastle
Hicks, Jon M. Renton
Hill, Jennifer E. Woodinville
Iyer, Shushanta R. Bellevue
Jackson, William D. Kent
Jennings, Leo Renton
Jensen, Amdra L. Kent
Jones, Gisela M. Issaquah
Jones, Janet M. Bellevue
Kamla, Diane Elaine Newcastle
Leonard, Shirley L. Auburn
Leveque, Lindsay A. Bellevue
Liliequist, Kami R Bellevue
Masten, Adelle S. Covington
Matthew, Cathy L. Renton
Merz, Eleanor B. Kent
Moore, Janet Newcastle
Musselman, Lloyd R. Federal Way
Nahm, Clifford W. Issaquah
Nelson, Edna A. Renton
Nelson, Ruth A. Seattle
Newhouse, Alan K. Newcastle
Pelascini, Cecilia Bellevue
Peritore, Ann B. Normandy Park
Pham, Nga K. Tukwila
Phelps, Marcia L. Kent
Phillips, Deanthony Bellevue
Phillips, Edna W. Renton
Rajpaul, Vinod K. Bellevue
Rankin, Toni A. Kent
Rice, Carolyn M. Renton
Rittenhouse, Chrissy Kent
Ross, Jonathan K. Woodinville
Russell, Beverly A. Auburn
Sanner, Scott Renton
Simpson, Teri L. Auburn
Stansbury, Kenneth L. Bellevue
Stansbury, Todd M. Bellevue
Stansbury, Wendy E. Bellevue
Staub, Frances V. Bellevue
Steere, Toby R. Bellevue
Stevenson, Jerri Louise Renton
Stewart, Paul M. Covington
Stewart, Shirley M. Covington
Stocks, John S. Auburn
Tiberio, Colleen F. Woodinville
Toole, Ann Newton Bellevue
Tossini, Adriana E. Mercer Island
Toyohara, Mitsi Bellevue
Tran, Toan N. Bellevue
Turner, Alan Dale Renton
Van Auken, Garland Auburn
Van Horn, Betty L. Kent
Vazquez, Jose Martin Kent
Vercheak, Michael J. Renton
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Posted by: Cliff on June 16, 2005 07:37 PM