June 09, 2005
"Gregoire didn't win either"

In this week's The Stranger, my good friend Sandeep goes a little overboard in his analysis of the Wenatchee ruling. Fortunately, The Stranger's diversity-hire conservative sets the record straight

After a 129-vote lead on the third count, Gregoire cockily declared that the election had been "a model to the rest of the nation and the world at large." By the end of the trial, her lawyers showed Judge Bridges enough offsetting errors and illegal votes that they only affirmed the central claim from Rossi's contest petition: that "the number of illegal votes counted, and the number of valid votes improperly rejected in this election, are so great as to render the true result of the election uncertain and likely unknowable."

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at June 09, 2005 04:28 PM | Email This
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1. On Monday morning, after six months of Republican posturing...Let's not mince words: Chelan County Superior Court Judge John Bridges methodically destroyed the Republican case in his hour-long recitation from the bench, unraveling months of spin and dismissing as meritless the wild charges of fraud from Rossi lawyers.

Nice article thanks.

Posted by: Erik on June 9, 2005 05:11 PM
2. Stefan,
When some Gregoire Support can answer this math question, then I will beleive that Gregiore won.

X - A - B = X + Z

If you have "X" number of voters credited with voting in this contest minus "A" number of disqualified ballots for errors with the ballot,
minus "B" number of voters who did not vote for governor in that portion of the ballot; how do you end up with "Z" more ballots than voters in an that same election?

And that is still true, even if you remove the "C" number of illegal voters identified.

(X - A - B)-C = (X + Z)-C

So, as long as there is no reconciliation (crediting of who cast a ballot) and election officals do not have to account for their actions.
Did we really have a fair election?
Mike

Posted by: Mike P on June 9, 2005 05:18 PM
3. If you want numbers, remember:
1st count = Rossi WINS;
Machine re-count = Rossi WINS
Final PROVEN flawed and fraud count = Fraudire STEALS the election!
I still say 2 out of three wins!!

Posted by: arky on June 9, 2005 05:34 PM
4. Has any credible public poll been done to see what the voters think of all this?

(An online poll is really no good.)

Posted by: Bostonian on June 9, 2005 06:25 PM
5. Arky,
The first two counts were no good either.

Posted by: Bostonian on June 9, 2005 06:26 PM
6. Bostonian, I haven't seen a "real" poll since the court ruling. I'm sure something will be coming out soon.

Mark

Posted by: Mark D on June 9, 2005 06:47 PM
7. Thats right folks!
You can ALL VOTE BY MAIL!

Brittan has "postal voting" and they deal with it fine. Oregon has Vote by Mail and they have "zero" irregularities. Sam (R I AM) Reed loves it! Dean (little D) Logan is excited about it.

What is wrong with you old fashion Republicans?
...OK, sarcasm off...

100% absentee...
What is wrong with this sentence?

Posted by: Splatter on June 9, 2005 07:53 PM
8. Sreat article Stefan!

Posted by: sgmmac on June 9, 2005 08:09 PM
9. LOL SPLATTER,

I'm all for it! Now I can be sure my wife's vote doesn't cancel mine out!

Posted by: Doug on June 9, 2005 09:11 PM
10. Mike P

Uhhh -- margin of error, buddy.

Posted by: Roscoe on June 9, 2005 09:25 PM
11. Roscoe,
Nice try but even if you have looked at the total number of verified voters and use King Counties Error rate (highest). You still do not account for the fact that the number of additional ballots in the governor's race exceeds the error rate. So next....

Posted by: Mike P on June 9, 2005 09:50 PM
12. "By the end of the trial..."

...Gregoire's 129 vote win had grown to 133.

Posted by: Daniel K on June 9, 2005 09:54 PM
13. So had the nose on her face (and those of her minions)

:-)

Posted by: Elmo on June 9, 2005 10:15 PM
14. Roscoe,
Just look at the State of WA published numbers.
Presidental vote total = 2859084
Governor total 1st count = 2805913
" " 2nd count = 2808341
" " 3rd count = 2810058

Change in ballot count from 1st to 3rd count: increase by 4145, with 1166 coming from King County or 28 Percent.


But the real numbers are the credited voters, for you are required to sign for your ballots, for both absentee or at the polls, before your ballot is to be counted. The number of voters should be equal or higher than the number of ballots because you also have the offically rejected ballots. If King County has 864 fewer credited voters than ballots. How did they get to that number? Did King County have have no rejected ballots? No, they did have rejected ballots. This means the number of extra (unverified) ballots is that much higher.

Posted by: Mike P on June 9, 2005 11:13 PM
15. LOSER SAYS WHAT? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Months ago I told you to stop beating a dead horse, and you defiantly told me your frivolous lawsuit was going to turn things upside down, Shark.

Now that I've been proven right and you've been proven to be nothing more than a whiny loser, I thought you might be man enough to have a change of heart. I guess not!

LOSER. Get used to that word, Shark. It fits you and your crowd just perfectly.

Posted by: name on June 10, 2005 07:03 AM
16. NAME.
You are the losers, you just don't know it yet. The day of reconing is coming for all you loser libs. The public majority is starting to see through your smoke and mirrors.

Posted by: Harley Guy on June 10, 2005 08:13 AM
17. I'm just wondering - since there are so many libs hanging around - do most of you acknowledge that when standing on the side of the democratic party, you are voting for communism? I truly wonder if you knowingly agree with the socialist/communist agenda or if you don't see the similiarity?

Posted by: Julie on June 10, 2005 09:20 AM
18. Splatter,
just one correction--in King County it is 110% Absentee!

Bill H

Posted by: Bill H on June 10, 2005 09:35 AM
19. Good one Bill H. (too bad you aren't Bill Huenekens, we could yell at you)

Posted by: righton on June 10, 2005 11:11 AM
20. Julie,

That's socialism, not comm....oh....never mind

Posted by: smoke on June 10, 2005 12:02 PM
21. communism
a theory which advocates a state of society in which there should be no private ownership, all property being vested in the community and labour organized for the common benefit of all members; the professed principle being that each should work according to his capacity, and receive according to his wants.

Socialism
the set of beliefs which states that all people are equal and should share equally in the wealth of the country, or the political systems based on these beliefs.

Posted by: Julie on June 10, 2005 12:37 PM
22. 99.9+% votes counted accurately? That is a model. We can hold our heads up high knowing this is more accurate than Visa, Mastercard, Bank One, American Express, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, etc.

Posted by: Tom Purcell on June 10, 2005 01:20 PM
23. Tom, Over 50,000 ballots were illegally enhanced by poll workers. Your #'s do not add up.

Posted by: Brad on June 10, 2005 02:04 PM
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