Democrats just called Linda Sanchez, King County Elections Operations Supervisor. She's in charge of the canvass "which is the reconciliation of the pollbooks after an election".
[I'm told by people who worked on the canvassing crew that the canvass was so f*cked up due to Huennekens changing long-standing procedures, that Linda Sanchez broke down in tears in the middle of it and threatened to quit.]
Hamilton is wasting a ton of time on "cross-over votes", suggesting that he's desperate to change the subject from the real issues.
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at June 01, 2005 04:12 PM | Email ThisShe keeps using the phrase "kind of". Not the kind of person I want running elections in my county...
Oh brother.
Posted by: Jeremy on June 1, 2005 04:18 PMMuch easier then say running dozens of unverified provisionals thru an accu-vote.
Posted by: Joe on June 1, 2005 04:38 PMShe IS nervous and intimidated by all of this. But, I wouldn't hold that against her.
They probably need more people like her and fewer political hacks like Logan.
Posted by: BananaLand (aka Iguana) on June 1, 2005 04:44 PMAnyone ever see the hiring criteria dem party lawyers? Do they find it absolutely essential to have mouthpieces with annoying voices?
I'm really getting tired of this guy.
Posted by: scott158 on June 1, 2005 04:48 PMFresh start tomorrow. Plenty of time to prepare.
The Interveners are dancing on a mine field!
Posted by: Splatter on June 1, 2005 04:49 PMDems' statistical expert says not possible to know if Gregoire won
The Democrats' statistical expert testified that it is impossible to know whether Gov. Christine Gregoire actually got the most legal votes in the November election.
Posted by: Glenno on June 1, 2005 04:51 PMCross overs happen and sometimes they balance, especially if you have an audit trail to show who voted where.....SO WHERE IS THE AUDIT TRAIL?
Posted by: Andy on June 1, 2005 04:52 PMwww.seattletimes.com
It's worth the link. It's the top bold headline right now.
Posted by: who'dathunk? on June 1, 2005 04:59 PM"A lot of people do it. It happens all the time. The client is too stupid to know better. It was an 'accident' that occurred because his wife was waiting, and the idiot was driving on a congested roadway."
... I see
Posted by: Splatter on June 1, 2005 05:10 PM"A lot of people do it. It happens all the time. The client is too stupid to know better. It was an 'accident' that occurred because his wife was waiting, and the idiot was driving on a congested roadway.""
That isn't that different from how they got a certain supreme off of hit-and-run charges.
Posted by: Dogbert on June 1, 2005 05:16 PMwww.seattletimes.com
It's worth the link. It's the top bold headline right now.
HEADLINE: Secretary of State's Office is not neutral, GOP says
(...)A Republican attorney grilled the state elections director on cross-examination yesterday in a move designed to show the Secretary of State's Office is "masquerading as being neutral"(...)
State Elections Director Nick Handy testified yesterday in a Wenatchee courtroom that he believed Republicans were "manipulating information" to undermine public confidence in the governor's election.
R's now canibalizing their own.
t'heehee.
If it ain't broken they can fix it so it looks broken.
Oh wait, they don't say that "F" word "fix" or "fraud". Don't say the word and it never happened.
Posted by: Splatter on June 1, 2005 05:29 PMHEY REED, get any good advice from Oregon's SoS lately? I hear that Vote-By-Mail system will not only save money but eliminate all "irregularities". Seemed to work well for those people in Brittan, didn't it?
ALL RINOS MUST GO!
Posted by: Splatter on June 1, 2005 05:46 PMI feel your pain!!! It's hard to find a R' who can't be bought these days. Handy seems unaware of new FOX paradigm: Fair(ly) (un)Balanced.
Anyway, ST's article gives pretty complete explanation of his opinions/statements throughout, pretty much 50/50 for D/R's. As article quoted, he objects to state RNC's lies/mischaracterizations.
I can understand why SP's can't relate. Peace/freedom/democracy (blah blah blah)etc. etc.
tsk tsk.
Posted by: JDM on June 1, 2005 05:59 PMAlso, will someone please inform the nitwit lawyers for the dems that it is the Democrat Party and NOT the DemocratIC Party.
Good grief.
Posted by: Cheryl on June 1, 2005 06:10 PMUnfortunately, just like the war in Iraq, even though we can now all see the futility of the effort, there is no exit strategy. We're already girding for the next round in the Supreme Ct.
I sure hope the R's are getting their moneys worth out of this stunning waste of both public and private resources.
Posted by: Unkl Witz on June 1, 2005 06:18 PMUnkl Witz ~ "stunning waste of both public and private resources."
Do you two have a point? ..Oh wait, I feel the progressive light!!!!
.. Oh sorry, that was gas...
Inspectors from the state departmant of ecology have announced that an audit of K.C. chemical co, a division of Halliburton-Enron, is missing 100,000 gallons of nastium grossate. Operations superintendent Dean0 Bloagan, told reporters that "our inventory meters are so bad, we can't tell how much nastium grossate is missing". Bloagan said that while he can't be sure how much is unaccounted for, "you can't prove that any is missing". A collapsed tank can be seen from the fence, with a large swath of dead barren land between the tank and the Puget Sound.
Attornies for K.C. chemical are arguing that "snot happens, and this is the way we always do it, and get over it".
Posted by: Dogbert on June 1, 2005 06:47 PM"...just like the war in Iraq, even though we can now all see the futility of the effort..."
Futility, really? All those millions of people voting rather than being slaughtered, and that's futility?
If there was a poll in Iraq and Washington State asking the citizens of each if they are satisfied with their recent elections, I'd bet that Iraq would be more pleased with their electoral process than Washington. Comments?
Remember, Unkl Witz, when John F Kennedy said that we'd pay any price, he was talking about spreading freedom and democracy to the dark places of the world. He wasn't speaking about building a monorail.
Posted by: Larry on June 1, 2005 06:49 PMare you the Seattle Times editor that forced the headline change 50 minutes after it was posted?
yup, no MSM influence there. I wonder if Postman will have a job come Monday?
I am a died in the wool Democrat. I trust there are those on this blog that will back me up on that.?????
To defend King County and the Democrats in the shameful way that is being exposed in this trial disgusts me.
Right now, officially, I have no party.
Posted by: who'dathunk? on June 1, 2005 07:55 PMWhy would you want to carry on conversations with these folks and others like them? Unless they are willing to sit down and have a reasonable conversion in light of the facts, then even responding to them is a waste of text, space and time.
It's true that two people can look at the facts of anything and disagree about their value or influence in a particular matter. But to deny the facts of a matter outright because they expose the weakness in your position is simple foolishness and arrogance.
Thankfully, knowledgable and intelligent people are no longer letting themselves be duped by the MSM and are learning more about the politics and the social/political world in which they live. This has turned the tide and, with folks like Howard Dean and Harry Reid driving the Democrat party, will serve to continue to marginalize the Democrat party to the point of near extinction, or at least until the point where the realize they have so marginalized themselves that they only represent a narrow, small segment of the population. Or, of course, unless Bridge's rules in favor of the Democrat position in this case, in which dishonest voters will be allowed to continue to exploit the vulnerabilities of our election system to rig the outcomes of votes and keep the minority party in positions of unearned power.
Posted by: JRR on June 1, 2005 08:08 PMJust ask the Iraqi's: are you better off today than 3 years ago. Virtually everyone I asked said "YES!" We love America and are more than happy to give up our security and sense of well being, not to mention electricity for most of the day, for that blue finger that got our picture on the cover of Time Magazine.
So go figure... the Iraqi polity is almost at dumb as that of our own country. But we have a great sideshow here in our 'election contest.' It takes your mind off the hundreds of billions spent and tens of thousands of lives lost to fulfill Bush the Lesser's sense of his place in history.
Go George, you will live on in the minds of your admiring supporters, despite your enormous shortcomings. Just like your ignoble hero Ronnie.
Posted by: Unkl Witz on June 1, 2005 08:50 PMDumbass......
Posted by: alphabet soup on June 1, 2005 08:52 PMYou are an embarassment to the democratic party. We are supposed to represent the party of ideals and dialogue. You represent neither. Either debate the facts in plain view intelectually or defer to those that will. Only through rational debate and constructive dialoge can we strengthen our great country and set the approriate tone for the rest of the world.
Posted by: who'dathunk? on June 1, 2005 09:45 PMFutility, really? All those millions of people voting rather than being slaughtered, and that's futility?
uhhh, you seem to have it backwards. Again.
You must watch FOX.
If there was a poll in Iraq and Washington State asking the citizens of each if they are satisfied with their recent elections, I'd bet that Iraq would be more pleased with their electoral process than Washington.
Well, I must admit Iraq didn't use Diebold.
Still, the place is (if not already) on verge of civil war. Chimpy's not going to get his oil. Iranian mullah's now have an ally in Iraq.
In other words, Junior dumped $300b + down the sinkhole, generated +-100k deaths, motivated armies of Jihadists for a generation while vindicating OBL claims, ... all to establish another Islamic state. I'd think even you wankers would have trouble stomaching that one.
70% of Iraqi's want us gone. 2/3 of USAsians think the invasion was a mistake. We've increased ranks of radical Islamics many, many fold. For the first time in 2+ decades So. America eliminated us from the annual economic summit (and wouldn't even grant a US seat at table a observer). And Junior's thinking invading Iran?
Ok, on to next wanker...
@JRR:
Folks like unkl witz, JDM et al are so blind with rage at the current national administration that it filters down to ANY person in any office who belongs to the Republican party.
Just tired of crooks and liars. There's no comparison between Wa. state process and Ohio... none. Ohio AG has stonewalled all inquiry. The evidence for malfeasance in voting machines is overwhelming. Here, the entire thing's out in the open living color. And still, all R's can do is whine and crank up slime machine... bunch of DinoSores.
For them, there is no amount of reason or fact that can satisfy.
Right... reason and fact really proliferates around here....
The only thing that is true for them - be it the liberation and protection of the Iraqi and Afghani people
Right. Karazi can't even drive around the block in Kabul. Taliban are being elected. The country is beyond broke. And they all hate our guts. I encourage you to vacation in Baghdad soon... go on, wave your American flag and mingle with the natives. Please, let us know how it goes.
Ok, on to the next wanker....
@alphy poop
Oh plueeze swizzle-stick....you haven't been out of your mama's house much less King County. Dumbass......
(sigh) Next...
@who'dathunk
are you the Seattle Times editor
Yah, that's me. Next, we're going to buy every radio station and Put Franken on 24/7.
(...) that forced the headline change 50 minutes after it was posted?
Uhhh, it was just a dumb headline. Glad they (err, we) decided to keep subtitle about GOP eating their own though.
I am a died in the wool Democrat.
yah, sure... all righty then.
To defend King County and the Democrats in the shameful way that is being exposed in this trial disgusts me.
ahhh, I'm all broken up. Want a hug?
Posted by: JDM on June 1, 2005 10:57 PM
Actually, I am truly amazed that someone could turn logic and common sense completely on its head, and then stand there and proudly shout out to the world: "Look at me, I'm a liberal idiot!"
Posted by: alphabet soup on June 2, 2005 07:47 AMyah, sure... whatever.
Entire Ohio GOP powerbrokers now in deep trouble w/"coingate". The AG, governor and Sec of State all tied to Noes. Looks like Shrubbie is as well. With the exit polling statistical analysis discrepencies, all swayed towards Diebold/Sequoia precincts, all of the "coingate" players conspired to kill post election oversight (it's well documented). Multiple state laws were broken: and it's on film.
Please explain how I've "turn logic and common sense completely on its head". You may be able to incite your co-wankers with hyperbole and slurs, but none of this stuff will ever be settled until reasonable people decide to ensure a relibale process, rather than ensure an outcome. I've seen no evidence whatsoever the R's could care less about the former.
"For the good of the people, we need finality!!!" . Hypocrites.
Posted by: JDM on June 2, 2005 10:54 AM