Christine Gregoire, December 21, 2004, calling for counting the Larry Phillips ballots that showed up near the end of the manual recount:
"Government mistakes need to be corrected. And the purpose of the recount is precisely that: to correct mistakes.Indeed. Although it appears in hindsight that Gregoire won only because King County government chose to report and correct some of its mistakes, while deliberately concealing others. Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at May 28, 2005 09:30 AM | Email This
This would make an excellent closing sentance for Republican Lawyers at the closing arguments phase of the Wenatchee trial.
Posted by: Deadwood on May 28, 2005 09:36 AMIf that's true, then we need to continue to recount, and recount, and recount, and recount until there are no more "mistakes".
But that still won't fix the problem of mystery ballots.
Posted by: Dogbert on May 28, 2005 10:12 AMWhat CG really meant was that KC government made mistakes that let Rossi lead in two counts. KC government's purpose is to correct it so that CG wins the final "count".
Public: KC, how ballots did you print?
KC: We don't know
Public: How many ballots did you send out?
KC: We don't know
Public: How many ballots were returned?
KC: We don't know
Public: How many on-demand ballots were printed?
KC: We don't know
Public: Were all absentee ballots accounted for?
KC: We don't know (or Yes, and then some)
Public: What really happened with PV ballota at the polls?
KC: We don't know
Public: Did CG really have the most votes?
KC: Absolutely, beyond a shadow of a doubt. We can state with 99.8% reliability that CG got the most votes - there is no question about it.......
Is there a doctor in the house?
Well, gee, then I guess he let his hometown H.S. fans down, because he shouldn't have knowingly passed of a falsified ballot report to the rest of us! Cascade County NOW~!
Posted by: Michele on May 28, 2005 01:12 PMI should've told the service counter guy that I know Dino (I do) and that HE'S also a smart, good guy and at the very least he deserved a fair election with an accurate count. He didn't get that!
Throw out this tainted election!
Posted by: Michele on May 28, 2005 01:50 PM**I work with a guy, who was Dean Logan's neighbor in Kitsap County. I got an ear full of "Dean is such a nice guy and does not deserve this".**
Dean Logan may very well be a person that you wouldn't mind having for a neighbor, etc.... however that doesn't mean that he is qualified to be the head of an Election Department. And as for him being smart in high school one would think that he would have gotten some additional education, e.g. business school, trade school or college. From the sounds of things it appears that none of them in the election department had any high school accounting.
And, it is also possible that Logan is too agreeable. Some people are nice, but weak. If that's the case, then he might do well as a subordinate in an election office, but not be able to run one.
Posted by: Jim Miller on May 28, 2005 06:07 PMIn a well-designed system, it should be possible to do manual audits of machine counts, to confirm that everything is kosher. What I would like to see would be for the first post-election count to mark each ballot with a serial number [for ballot-secrecy reasons, the serial number should not exist on the ballot at the time it is cast] and for the system to produce a ballot-image for each ballot counted.
A machine could examine all the ballot images and confirm a one-to-one relationship between ballot serial numbers credited with voting for a candidate, and votes recorded for that candidate. Hand-examining a random sampling of ballots would confirm that the mark scanning equipment was acting properly.
Posted by: supercat on May 29, 2005 12:08 AMShould we make then Senatorette and Elections guru?
Problem w/ this town is the "nice person" (who supports abortion and other pet causes) is all that counts.
Posted by: righton on May 29, 2005 06:50 AMThe bottom line is that NO ballots should have been added to the ballots that were in the first count -- all ballots that were added later only prove that KC and the dem machine were cheating -- these SOB's need to be thoroughly investigated by the Fed's and severe - long prison sentences handed out -- THEY HAVE TO BE MADE EXAMPLES OF -- Folks - listen close here -- the rats tried like he11 to get Kerry elected and they almost succeeded -- all across the country they were pulling this same crap - with SOROS and the moveon's with their registration drives and whiney, crybaby - get out the vote crap - along with all the (thankfully EXPOSED) phony MSM stories -- if it had not been for the SwiftVets -- we'd really be in a world of hurt --
Posted by: Bill on May 29, 2005 10:56 AM“Dean was considered to be smart, etc. and a good guy. Dean is such a nice guy and does not deserve this”
Many people said various similar things about Jeffery Dahmer, Ted Bundy, and Gary Ridgeway. That doesn’t mean Logan is a criminal like these guys – then again it doesn’t mean he isn’t.
Anyone with a brain now knows without ANY DOUBT that Dean Logan either can not or will not run a fair election, because he proved it to us. But let’s not consider the facts – let’s worry about how we feeeeeeeeel about the situation.
It would otherwise seem reasonable to conclude that the “smart, etc.,” attribution means that he would not run it fairly while the “good guy” part must mean that he simply could not run it fairly. But hold on there you PESKY REPUBLICAN MEAN PERSONS; Let’s not forget that the ALL TELLING smart, etc., good guy doesn’t deserve this!!!
To all of you evolved, nuanced Chomsky-ist’s, this proves that Logan's culpability is vitiated because he is [somehow] a victim of the election?
Gee I feel sorry for Logan now; lets call it all off.