May 25, 2005
A fraud on the public

The Times David Postman ended yesterday's live coverage with the headline "Day Two closes with no smoking gun"

Testimony by Bill Huennekens, King County's elections superintendent, took up most of the day. There was no drama, and no smoking gun was revealed.
Postman seems to buy into the Democrats' theory that any discrepancy between ballots and voters is merely a result of routine administrative errors that are inevitable in any election and that's its unremarkable for an elections department not to know how many people voted.

Even if you give King County Elections the benefit of the doubt that there were only a bunch of innocent mistakes (and that's a highly generous assumption), these mistakes have to be placed in context. We went through two recounts with the stated objective of improving the accuracy of the vote tally. The state's elections establishment led us to believe that the final answer of a 129-vote margin was reasonably accurate enough to accept the outcome.

Had they simply been honest before certification about the existence and scope of the "errors", it's unimaginable that the 129-vote result would have been allowed to stand as definitive without additional corrections. The smoking gun was Huennekens' admission that he couldn't vouch for his work product. The public was defrauded.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at May 25, 2005 07:30 AM | Email This
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1. Good Morning, Stefan.
Hey, I know what it's like to have a 3 yr old, thomas skarfin' son (I have one, too!). You must be tired keeping the hours you are in Wenatchee!
Thanks for the timely updates on the case. I am trying to watch a little on streaming, although my dial up phone line is essentially nothing more than Det cord.

Posted by: Casey on May 25, 2005 07:39 AM
2. At stake here is the very legitimacy of our State Government.
Democracy has taken a knife wound to the heart and MSM representatives like Postman are reporting that it is just a small cut...no real drama here.

Posted by: Danno02 on May 25, 2005 07:41 AM
3. MSM will spin Washington's 2004 Gov. election coverage as a non-issue for as long as possible. Todays ST Letters to editor has NO letters regarding trial. Surprise: No, not really.

Posted by: maggie on May 25, 2005 07:43 AM
4. It's a world view for these people. They know best, if a few eggs have to be broken for the recipe, so be it. It would all be fine if we neanderthal voters would just shut up and show our proper appreciation.

Posted by: Danny on May 25, 2005 07:55 AM
5. The smoking gun from yesterday was Evlyn Arnold's testimony that essentially shows that King County was conducting the election is such a way as to make it impossible to handle a close result. Namely, by not knowing how many ballots they issued.

No self respecting Washingtonian should stand for the garbage produced in King County elections. Even if we forget about the outcome, the product was indeed so shoddy that our tax dollars were very poorly spent.

I expect some big turnover in KC Elections before November.

Posted by: Jeff B. on May 25, 2005 07:58 AM
6. Does anyone else remember that Saturday Night Live skit where the actor playing George Bush is using a whiny voice to talk about how being President is "...just so haaaard, I'm mean it's really haaard". The Dems and Libs got a good laugh out of that. Funny, we don't hear them laughing now that they are using the same line about elections in King County. Elections are haaard, they're just so haaard, we can't possibly be expected to get it 100% right, just right enough (to guarantee their guy wins).

Posted by: Jason on May 25, 2005 07:59 AM
7. I finally checked out horsesass at the insistence of a friend, god gawd is all I have to say. These people have nothing to offer other than insults only suitable on a ghetto basketball court.

It really was a waste of time, my view of the majority of KC Democrat Party faithful was cemented after listening to their response to the WTO riots.

Posted by: JDH on May 25, 2005 08:09 AM
8. Mistakes are made every day; it's a fact of life. When the mistakes add up in one direction, it's not random and therefore not mistakes.

Posted by: South County on May 25, 2005 08:16 AM
9. Jason - I do remember it. I thought those skits were hilarious! As inaccurate as the depictions were, anyone could see that they were satire and exaggerations.

I have no problem laughing at myself and my foibles - something that dems should learn (quickly!)

Posted by: alphabet soup on May 25, 2005 08:27 AM
10. "Elections are haaard, they're just so haaard, we can't possibly be expected to get it 100% right, just right enough (to guarantee their guy wins)."

Jason, what they seem to be arguing for is the ability to manipulate the outcome when a close election happens to come along. They are arguing for the right to cover over such manipulations with the excuse of "administrative errors" and "human failings". The lamestream media is aiding in this effort because it gets the candidates they favor elected (Rats). The whole 'Rat argument in this case reminds me of the "it is only about sex, not criminality" gambit that Clinton played, only here, the refrain is, "it isn't about fraud, it's about incompetence and stupidity". Pretty sad when the whole defense of your case comes down to the need to prove in a court of law and in full view of the public that you are stupid, lazy, and incompetent.

Well, I'm sorry, but I don't buy it. And even if it were true, assuring honest and accurate elections is too important a job in a system of representative government to countenance shoddy and incompetent work. In any other job where the quality of the work product is important, if there is evidence of shoddiness and poor quality, you toss it out and re-make the product. A simple principle of good business practice that seems to be incomprehensible to certain WA state elected officials.

Posted by: Interested Observer on May 25, 2005 08:38 AM
11. The supposed disinterested party is trying to cover it's rear- saying they didn't make mistakes and then saying it's a tough job.

Why don't they just admit that they have no clue how votes went? This tactic of covering it up and then saying the error is not meaningful is getting REALLY repetitive.

Posted by: Andy on May 25, 2005 09:03 AM
12. Interested,

Not only do you toss the product, but the people that were responsible for it, especially when their only rational is that "We're sorry. We are just too stupid to do better, and anyway mistakes happen". Chances of that happening in KCE?

OT. It reminds be of FL 2000. Everyone was so eager to get on TV to announce how stupid they were for not understanding the ballot (how they knew that they voted "wrong" is a different issue), and how everyone was clamoring for these votes. "They are so stupid they don't know how to vote, but they wanted to vote for me." I would love to have morons as my base!?

Posted by: Fred on May 25, 2005 09:05 AM
13. "I expect some big turnover in KC Elections before November."

But not before this trial is over -- that we be too much like admitting their "errors" were something beyond the "acceptable margin".

Posted by: starboardhelm on May 25, 2005 09:08 AM
14. Hey South County...
You've got it backwards... The KC election dept didn't make mistakes...
Those were made by all the little people and peons (voters and "temp" workers)
Why the KC Election Dept had to keep correcting all those errors. We must recognize their dedication! Why they had to keep correcting and correcting... over 9 times! And finally they got the result that was mandated! Yes!

And all those ballots without voters? Why how mean-spirited are you? Those poor ballots! Their orphans! And besides they might have been cast by those in the witness-protection program and we know that they are oppressed by mean, rightwing males!! Those ballots stand for all the unknown people who long to be free!! Better than those cast by grubby self-serving rabble who claim they are better than others because they are citizens! How narrowminded and oppressive! Why we should count those voterless ballots twice! Or Three times! They are better than the rest of us.

But now all those wonderful people that tried to assure that we have the perfect leadership of Sims, Gregoire, Cantwell and Murray are being singled out and presecuted! They try to give us goverment officials unfettered by actual people who voted for them and what do we do? We act as if they're accountable to the voters! "Correcting" our mistakes and having officials ellected by voterless ballots was an attempt to give us unaccountable people in office to manage and spend that money we have no right to! We should be thankful! Yes!

Posted by: Victor on May 25, 2005 09:08 AM
15. Nicole looks a little emotional this morning.

Posted by: Andy on May 25, 2005 09:10 AM
16. Well said, Interested Observer. KC Elections staff knows admitting incompetence will have no negative impact on their respective careers, it just allows them to fit right in with rest of the Seattle/KC government crowd. Corruption, however, might be a different story....won't it?.....

Posted by: Saltherring on May 25, 2005 09:12 AM
17. The context is that these people are on a mission for "social justice" and so think that getting their Vagina Warrior "elected" should occur by any means necessary.

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on May 25, 2005 09:47 AM
18. Wonder if Postman reads Sound Politics? I often think that Democratic reporters like Postman hurt themselves by not looking at a wide enough variety of sources. (That said, some of his reporting on this election mess has been decent.)

Posted by: Jim Miller on May 25, 2005 09:48 AM
19. Now you guys have it all wrong, it was the voters who made all of the mistakes. They voted for the wrong candidate, and the elections department had to do extra work to ensure that the correct (not right) one was elected. After all selection of a governor is to important to be left to the citizens.

Posted by: gary J on May 25, 2005 09:54 AM
20. The Columbian has a similar article by Rebecca Cook (AP) "No smoking gun in election trial".
Must be a state wide 'smoke' screen.
I guess it is hard to see a smoking gun when you've just taken a direct hit and the lights go out.

Could be time for another RE-Vote rally!!
So that the truth will be known!!

Posted by: Terry Clark C on May 25, 2005 09:56 AM
21. Gary j--
You got it--blame the real victim--the voter--typical liberal style. It's the fault of the ignorant masses that made them actually WORK & have to count votes. Weenie, 'we goofed' excuses do not give you a free pass--and no--we won't 'just move on' until the system is purged of dung.

"No smoking gun?" Hell--the whole place looks like a civil war battfield--clouds of smoke. Sure--standing inside the muzzle of a huge cannon, you see no gun, you liberal Dufus.

Posted by: Jimmie-howya-doin on May 25, 2005 10:28 AM
22. Jimmie, Jimmie, Jimmie Are there really liberal whackos out there that would seriously propose that argument. I was being sarcastic.

Posted by: gary J on May 25, 2005 01:37 PM
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