When Judge Bridge's May 2 ruling was released, Olympia attorney Shawn Newman wrote that "Overall, my professional opinion is that Rossi's team is in trouble" [details in his 9:13pm comment on this post]. Newman has now revised his forecast substantially in light of Nicole Way's testimony that she falsified the Mail Ballot Report. His e-mail:
I think it may be very significant especially if, as I suspect, the certification is done under oath (as with an affidavit) or "under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of Washington (as with a declaration). Given the high standard of proof, this is the type of admissions/evidence Rossi's team needs to win. Is it enough? I don't know. Is it fraud. In my book, yes.--
Black's Law Dictionary defines "Fraud" as "an intentional perversion of the truth for the purpose of inducing another in reliance ... A false representation of a matter of fact, whether by words or by conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of that which should have been disclosed, which deceives and is intended to deceive another so that he shall act upon it to his legal injury ... Elements of a cause of action for fraud include false representation of a present or past fact made by defendant, action in reliance thereupon by plaintiff, and damage resulting to plaintiff from such misrepresentation." Now, who was deceived? The voters, but also Reed when he relied upon Logan's certification in making the final certification. Reed should admit he was duped and advocate for a new election. Will he? No. Why? He's a professional politician, a member of the ruling class who will not rock the boat. The D's will argue that, even IF there was fraud, you cannot prove Gregoire was the beneficiary. Their objective is to lump the fraud in with mistakes, errors, etc., resulting in a certified mess but not enough to prove the election was clearly invalid.Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at May 20, 2005 12:10 AM | Email This
Is Nicole a cog in the machine or a wrench in the works?
Posted by: Splatter on May 20, 2005 01:01 AMEating their own... As usual.
Y.A.W.N...
Posted by: Splatter on May 20, 2005 01:15 AMPlease take 5 minutes out of your day tomorrow to email Ron Sims. Let him know politely that your email serves as a vote of "no confidence" in King County's election office and that changes need to be made immediately.
Posted by: Joe on May 20, 2005 01:17 AMAny help is greatly appreciated.
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Posted by: Splatter on April 7, 2005 10:34 PM
AND THE NEXT BELIEVER UNDER THE BUS?
Nicole Way, supervisor of the mail-ballot facility.
If she is not a Koolaid kid she should come forward (even if she knows nothing) before being is burned by Sims and CO.
SOMEONE NEED TO SPEAK UP!
Colleen K.
Sandy M.
Samuel R.
Linda S.
AND MORE...
!!OH!!..those named in the court case (Sorry Nicole) have an excuse. Still, I bet she is next on the flogging post.
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Nicole, you read this, I respect your honesty. People like you could change the Democrat party for the better. I have the feeling you were sacrificed (given to the MSM dawgs) to protect the Sims project. Too bad it took a court case.
Posted by: Splatter on May 20, 2005 02:07 AMI am a Realtor on the Eastside, not in Bremerton. My knowledge of Bremerton is, it is a Navy town; it houses one of our large Navy bases. I would characterize it as a low to middle class community that is probably more conservative than libereral. The economy there is very dependent on the military.
It does not fit into any of your above descriptions. Generally, it isn't a place most Washingtonians pay attention to nor do we go out of our way to visit it.
If you want cosmopolitan, move to Seattle. If you want artsy-fartsy, move to the San Juans somewhere, if you want down-home, move to the South Hill in Spokane(the most conservative part of the state). If you want Western, move to Winthrop. If you want all the above, check out Bellingham. A little colder but a hot city right now.
Hope this helps
Posted by: Shalimar on May 20, 2005 07:19 AMLucy - Put a sock in it.
Posted by: Hanna on May 20, 2005 08:03 AMLying is lying. Prove the lying, as the fraud is being proven here. Then, use the power of the electorate to get rid of those who lie and do things that are improper. I'm willing to bet that you will find just as many (if not more) lying, cheating people on your side of the aisle. Or would you dismiss the D's misbehavior with 'the ends justify the means (attaining power)'?
Better yet, why don't you use your head and search for the truth about things before you spout off. As the saying goes, 'think twice before you speak once', or something on that order.
Posted by: Dad4 on May 20, 2005 08:05 AM"Would lying about WMD's and getting the US into a war under false pretences..."
Dear, you forgot to mention Halliburton and Karl Rove. Did you spill coffee on your talking points?
alaric
Posted by: alaric on May 20, 2005 08:06 AMIt depends on what your definition of "IS" is.
Posted by: Ken on May 20, 2005 08:07 AMI don't understand how it is that anyone can say they think Nicole Way is honest. She lied when it was most important to her public to be truthful, and she only told the truth when she was forced to do so. Had she lied in her deposition she would inevitably have been caught, and it would have surely provided a much more serious additional charge against her. It would also have been a greater coup for the real parties of interest in this case (voters) and the Republicans.
You say: Still, I bet she is next on the flogging post.
What flogging post ?
Who has been on any sort-of flogging post (besides the voters at large)? You comment as if you believe that she was sacrificed, when in fact she sacrificed herself. The fact that Sims and company have refused to take responsibility for anything underhanded doesn’t mean Way is less culpable in any manner shape or form for her rank dishonesty. The betrayal of trust she exhibits is indicative of all liberals and most democrats.
Given your petty attempt at dissimulation, it seems that you fit in that group as well.
Are you proud of it or did you mean something else?
The intelligence services of every other nation on the face of the planet thought he had WMD's. Were they lying as well? We went to war because he was in violation on something like fourteen UN resolutions over the space of twelve years. Him having WMD's was just one of those violations.
And yes, this IS off topic, it has nothing to do with the local election.
Posted by: Mike H on May 20, 2005 08:24 AMThey used a lot of 'soft' language to describe the fraud, though, such as "...failed to meet state ballot-auditing regulations" instead of "broke the friggin' law".
Ah well, it's a start.
Posted by: starboardhelm on May 20, 2005 08:27 AMBTW are you giving Newsweek a pass for "just a mistake"?
Posted by: Fred on May 20, 2005 08:27 AMHeadlice,
Are you still bitching about Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and Bill Clinton?
You are right on point as usual.
Posted by: Amused by liberal morons on May 20, 2005 08:29 AMWMDs, thats funny. The Democrats stopped caring about that when it was determined two weapons caches of checmical mortars were destroyed last year and the terrorists in Iraq used chemical warheads. And, even MSM had articles on assasination attempts and financing of terrorists by Saddam. Democrats are in agreement on this Lucy. they also agree, you need to leave the democrat party, your making them look bad. Lucy, your also in a time warp. Why don't you catch up with the rest of us.
Man, I am going to be so glad when school is done so Lucy spends less time online.
Posted by: Mark Beyer on May 20, 2005 08:30 AMLOL - good one Mark!
Posted by: Fred on May 20, 2005 08:49 AM1) They found no weapons.
2) They found no evidence the weapons were destroyed.
3) They found no evidence the weapons were moved out of the country.
4) They could not determine the disposition of the WMD.
Unless you failed your logic class. The following logical conculsion is irrefutable.
1) Saddam had WMD, he used them against Iran and Halabjah.
2) The disposition of the WMD is unknown.
3) There is no evidence of the WMD being destroyed, moved or otherwise disposed of in any manner, means or method.
The only logic conclusion one can make is that the weapons exsist in an unknown location. Given the the potential destructiveness of the WMD the only safe course is to assume they exsist and may be in the possesion of an enemy of the United States.
I get so tired of the left spinning the No Weapons lie it friggin' p's me off to no end. No Weapons is far different from We found nothing that informs us of what happen to the weapons.
That's my rant for the day.
Posted by: jcm on May 20, 2005 09:13 AMI just want you all to know that while my search may not have been exhaustive enough, the last couple days I went in search of a Los Angeles conservative blog that would be just like Soundpolitics, so I could get the scoop on my birthplace's political doings from a right-of-center view.
From what I could see, there is NOTHING like Soundpolitics. In that whole big city. The closest thing was a blog where the most liberal candidate for LA's mayor race this week was the favorite of the blogger and readers.
Bleh! Folks, we are very, very fortunate to have access to a blog like this. And in Seattle, which isn't nearly the size of LA, but boy do we have it good when it comes to a conservative blog that focuses on Puget Sound/Seattle area politics.
Makes me realize just how special SP is! Thank you Stefan, and all the other contributors to this fine effort.
Posted by: Michele on May 20, 2005 09:37 AMIt really is a great site.
Posted by: Danny on May 20, 2005 10:10 AMThanks to Eye on Olympia
Posted by: starboardhelm on May 20, 2005 10:17 AMTo HL....your arguements are stale...you really gotta think of some new material
Posted by: Blueknight on May 20, 2005 10:53 AMSplatter may have a point here...
Rossi's group should not put all of their eggs in one basket (so to speak)..with regard to Way's revelations.
Though Way's admission definitely indicates fraud - let's not forget about the bigger fish - (Ron Sims, Logan, Huenneken, Reed....)
In a game being played with this much to lose - I can see this as an orchestrated strategy to lessen suspicion on the leaders of King County and to place blame on subordinates and faulty computer software! Way will not get into trouble by her admission. Ron Sims, Logan, etal..have not been solidly linked to knowledge of the fraud - though it has been claimed that they knew about the systems shortcomings...
Way's revelations in her deposition were right out of the Dems playbook! The Republicans cannot afford to stop and gloat over this - they need to run with the momentum that Way's testimony initiated. They need to subpoena several levels of election staff RIGHT NOW to gather more information - and they need to cross reference that info with the KC Canvass board tapes and the prior depositions from Logan and Huennekens.
The Way testimony can nullify the election results of November - but it won't get those who are truly responsible out of their positions! This means our elections will continue to be plagued with fraud! Even more so now that the Democrats have passed the All Mail Voting system!
The best strategy for the Rossi team is to go *backwards* (evidence, testimony, etc.) - *present* (Way and Fell depositions of fraud)- and *forward* (consider the major players, the new voting laws, the RCW loopholes, the new Governors election ). They have to look at the entire picture to insure a complete victory - otherwise the Dems will perform fraud again in the new election and Gregoire and Sims could win again! And Nicole Way will be unemployed but have a nice bank account - courtesy of the state Democrats!
Posted by: Deborah on May 20, 2005 10:59 AMI live in Bremerton. Hanna - I grew up in Spokane.
I have lived in Bremerton for at least 6 years. It is a fairly laid back place to live. We do get the overflow of liberal rubbish from Seattle.
If you are looking for urban attractions, then live in Seattle. If you are looking for an inexpensive place with inexpensive access to the natural beauty of the Puget Sound and low crime, then Bremerton is definitely a good place for you. Most east sounders like to diss Bremerton, but is is coming into its own now. The new ferry terminal with the easteries and the waterfront are just a few of the signs of Bremerton's rebirth.
Politcally the people tend to be a good mix. So come move to Bremerton and help us shift the balance to Republicans.
Posted by: pbj on May 20, 2005 11:11 AMI live near Bremerton and have for decades. I think you will find the community will enbrace your business and your efforts. However, if you locate outside of city limits, be very wary about permitting issues. Kitsap county's bureacracy can be as loose as Thurston county's (Olympia) -in some circumstances- but has less exposure. Olympia is more entrenched, but more perdictable with the cast of characters. Kitsap county is somewhat more fluid, and therefor priorities change with personnel. Contact David Porter, the Exec Dir for Kitsap Regional EDC (he is fairly new and eager to make his mark), and you may want to meet with (D) Chris Endresen, Kitsap county Commissioner. Be careful of Mrs. Endresen, she can be a friend as much as a foe, but she does have the (DCD) Dept. of Community deveolpment by the short hairs, so to speak. I personaly voted against her last November (as did many small business owners), but she does have some clout, and if you get her excited about your venture, she could be useful, especially when dealing with Kamuron Gurol the director of the DCD.
Posted by: Boomer on May 20, 2005 12:15 PMHey Headless Lucy, this is great. I like being part of your deluded fantasy!
That's a no brainer.
Posted by: Doc on May 20, 2005 12:53 PMDoc, what have you been drinking-smoking-shooting-snorting-shoving-eating-craping?
A no brainer indeed.
Posted by: Son of Liberty on May 20, 2005 01:11 PMKeep up the good fight!
Kitty
Posted by: Kitty on May 20, 2005 01:17 PMYou misrepresent something, sell it under illegal circumstances, cheat those you represent, keep the lions share for yourself, rewrite your personal history of the incident as the hero, and spin everything to stay out of jail.
Exactly like a good democrat.
Thank god most of them are too stupid to breed....
Posted by: alphabet soup on May 20, 2005 03:21 PMHeh....More like a *Good Home Trained* Democrat!
Why do I keep wanting to substitute *Democrat* for *Nazi* in your statement? ....They appear to have the same meaning these days.....
Posted by: Deborah on May 20, 2005 04:00 PMWe shouldn't be too quick to suggest anything malevolent about wazzup. After all, he can't help that he didn't know when you choke yourself out during autoerotic asphyxiation, you're support to untie the knot after a while....
Posted by: alphabet soup on May 20, 2005 04:13 PM