May 19, 2005
Seeing Double

It's been known for a while that some number of King County's unverified provisional ballots that went into the AccuVote were cast by double voters. It turns out that the number of double voters is significantly higher than what King County originally admitted. Even now, King County is stonewalling on the production of hard evidence for the trial. The Republicans have actually had to file a motion asking Judge Bridges to order King County to comply with the discovery requests. The story is told in recent Republican court filings --

As noted earlier, Bill Huennekens acknowledged in his April 21 deposition that there were 437 more unverified provisionals that went into the AccuVote than had previously been disclosed. He also acknowledged that some of the unverified provisionals may have been from double voters.

The Republicans then subpoenaed (on April 29) any poll books pages, provisional ballot envelopes and absentee ballot envelopes from any such double voters and other illegal voters, to be produced on May 6. (See here for Subpoena, including list of presumed illegal voters)

Elections manager Colleen Kwan, who was responsible for doing the research into the unverified provisionals that went into the AccuVote and the (presumably) matching empty provisional envelopes, was deposed on May 5. Spreadsheets with information on the unverified provisionals were used as exhibits in her depositions. Her testimony and the spreadsheets indicate that there were even more double voters than previously acknowledged.

On May 10, the Republicans served King County with another subpoena, asking for hard copy documentation on the newly disclosed list of presumed double voters.

As late as May 16, King County had still not produced the hard copy evidence of any ballots cast by any but 2 of the dozens of voters who it identified as having cast more than one ballot. Meanwhile the Democrats had filed a motion to exclude such double votes (Petitioners' reponse here) on the grounds that "Petitioners lack the requisite proof".

Yesterday, the Republicans filed a motion for Judge Bridges to order King County to comply with the discovery request.

At this point, King County Elections should be handled as a criminal gang and prosecuted under the RICO act for conspiracy to commit fraud and obstruction of justice. Don Porter can become a celebrated mob lawyer, just like Bruce Cutler.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at May 19, 2005 12:58 PM | Email This
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1. WOW! Where's our non-Internet media coverage of this stuff?!!? This is Pulitzer prize material!!!

Posted by: Scott in Carnation on May 19, 2005 12:59 PM
2. The same place they've always been, Scott.....they're in CYA mode for the crooked King County Elections office (and any/all Dem politicians who need some help in the form of not running stories)

Posted by: Scott on May 19, 2005 01:03 PM
3. Having to get a court order to fulfill requests for discovery? I'm no lawyer, but isn't that citable as contempt of court? I mean, these are items necessary for the proper administration of justice. Certainly contempt, as well as obstruction of justice, would be valid charges.

Posted by: Interested Observer on May 19, 2005 01:14 PM
4. Busy covering their tracks and blaming it on the computer system....and who ordered the computer system?????????????????

Posted by: Norm on May 19, 2005 01:26 PM
5.
...sort of contrary to the "we were lazy and untrained" story they wanted us to buy on the fraud story.

Dtone walling, denial, lying, cover ups, cooking the books, hide the ball...how can anyone believe anything KC says at this point? The betrayal of public confidence is bottomless.


Posted by: Andy on May 19, 2005 01:43 PM
6. One of my fondest hopes is that King County officials will be sited for contempt of Judge Bridges Court and that the judge will appoint a master to run the next election that King County holds as he will judge them to be incompetent to follow the plain language of the laws governing elections.

Posted by: Bob on May 19, 2005 01:46 PM
7. I have been wondering. Say, best case, Judge Bridges overturns the election, and the SCOW sustains it. Further, that it would be possible to have a ReVote this comming November. What is to keep the same KC Crew from (mis)counting the votes all over again? Won't Simms and Logan, et al still be 'at work'?

Posted by: Dave on May 19, 2005 01:58 PM
8. Andy said . ..
Stone walling, denial, lying, cover ups, cooking the books, hiding the ball...how can anyone believe anything KC says at this point? The betrayal of public confidence is bottomless.

Absolutely right on. Think back to the Boston Tea Party. Read the Declaration of Independence. The natives are getting restless . . . I think we all agree on that one. This needs fixed before good people start a revolt . . . which would not be pretty.

Posted by: lksimstrailgrammy on May 19, 2005 02:06 PM
9. Dave, one can hope that the Judge might require KC Elections to send all the paperwork to him for the _next_ election. Having things like IN==OUT even though some were _known_ to be missing would probably cause a few contempt citations the _next_ time around. We can hope anyway.

Posted by: Al on May 19, 2005 02:07 PM
10. When is everyone going to give up on this silly game and admit that these dedicated people are doing this tough work for the whole and not just for some lame excuse for a wanna be like Rossi. Chris has shown way more class and character since she was elected by the people. Wakeup people and see what these crying Rossi friends are trying to do to Seattle and the rest of the State. Enough said!

Posted by: Little Tooth Fairy on May 19, 2005 02:08 PM
11. Those are excellent questions Dave.

My guess is that;

1. Dean Logan will be long gone (one way or the other, and

2. There will literally be hundreds of thousands of eyes watching every move.

It would be nice if the legislature had had the courage to purge the voter rolls as well!

Posted by: alphabet soup on May 19, 2005 02:08 PM
12. Dave think of this after all the problems that have been shown to take place means that and eye on what they are doing will be on KC. if they do anything illegal they will be caught. If someone is watching you do you not work a lot harder and no short cuts?

Posted by: David Anfinrud on May 19, 2005 02:11 PM
13. "It would be nice if the legislature had had the courage to purge the voter rolls as well!"

ROFLMAO!

Posted by: Dogbert on May 19, 2005 02:38 PM
14. Chris has shown way more class and character since she was elected by the people.

Shown character, huh? Like when she promised not to raise taxes, then the first thing she does is raise them?

She's shown a lot of class and character... just none of it has been any good.

Posted by: Mike H on May 19, 2005 02:41 PM
15. Little Tooth Fairy,

Like your name--lots of fantasy, but no real truth.

Posted by: Shannon on May 19, 2005 03:05 PM
16. Yes! Let the truth keep coming out!

Posted by: Michele on May 19, 2005 03:12 PM
17. Traits that comprise 'class and character' are not universally defined.

There is a segment in our country that would look up to anyone who is driving a Cadillac Escalade regardless of how they came to acquire it.

Funny isn't it that segment of our population who admires ‘ill gotten gains’ is also a constituency that the Democrats rely on to stay in office.

In Little Tooth Fairy's world the Pretender would be looked up to as one who embodies class and character.... ... .. .don't park your car in Little Tooth Fairy's neighborhood after dark.

Posted by: JDH on May 19, 2005 03:17 PM
18. Morality - do no wrong
Character - do what is right.

Posted by: Fred on May 19, 2005 03:36 PM
19. Ah, but there lies the rub. When there is no objective truth then there is no standard for what is right or what is wrong.... ... .. .as the libs are so fond of saying 'who's to say what's right.' It's a simple minded argument, however they have used it to subvert damn near every thing.

Posted by: JDH on May 19, 2005 03:52 PM
20. You are right JDH if you can't judge anything (except conservatives) then there is no right or wrong. Open the jails, lay off the police, there is no wrong so no arrests required!

Posted by: Fred on May 19, 2005 04:01 PM
21. lksimstrailgrammy said

"Absolutely right on. Think back to the Boston Tea Party. Read the Declaration of Independence. The natives are getting restless . . . I think we all agree on that one. This needs fixed before good people start a revolt . . . which would not be pretty."

Should we start by dumping untaxed gasoline into Elliot Bay? (that's only a JOKE, EPA) or something more local and less damaging to the environment --like boxes of roast coffee (remember the "Dime on your espresso for Daycare") from Starbucks?

Posted by: FlyingTigress on May 19, 2005 04:14 PM
22. Fly. Tig.,I have a much better idea. Every time you feel like telling one of 'em off, buy a pre-printed post card from the Rossi camp, and mail it to the miscreant.

The card should read something to the effect of, "Hi. I just wanted you to know that because of ______________, and because of me being a civilized citizen (as opposed to one of the the hooligans on the left), I'm sending this protest note rather than nailing you with a cream pie.

"You'll be happy to note that this card represents a donation to the Rossi campaign, and everyone that I can influence will be voting for Mr. Rossi this fall."

I'd wager big money that they'd come up with a count for those cards without any problem...not accurately, mind you, but a count just the same...

Posted by: scott158 on May 19, 2005 04:32 PM
23. King County is just getting silly now in their terror! They are literally peeing in their pants!

They don't know what to do! They are frozen!
No one has EVER taken it this far!....In the past - they've been able to spin away any questions about election procedures and problems. No one had ever dared to call them on their flakey practices! Their whole world is crashing down around them.

Anything they submit - can and MUST be used against them.....And they can't hide it very much longer...

I would hate to be Ron Sims, Dean Logan, Bill Huennekens, etal....right now and in the very near future.....

Posted by: Deborah on May 19, 2005 08:43 PM
24. The wheels have come off. The underlings understand and are off the reservation. Sims and crew have not slept in weeks. He knows his national aspirations are in the toilet and those around him are looking at criminal charges. Sucks to be him. I on the other hand am enjoying it.

Posted by: JDH on May 19, 2005 09:53 PM
25. JDH - I'd like to think you are right, but something keeps nagging at me. Clinton did horrible things; he was impeached. It did not stop his career, and he is still popular. It is positively unbelievable. What we have going on with Berendt, et al is right out of the playbook. Deny, deny, deny. They are thinking it will just go away. They fully plan to play this out until the bitter end. They are probably VERY uncomfortable, but they aren't going to back away from their position. Remember, they have right and wrong switched around in their brains (souls?) I won't believe it until the guilty parties are wearing orange jumpsuits.

Posted by: lksimstrailgrammy on May 19, 2005 10:06 PM
26. No no no, Fred! If we "open the jails and lay off the police" there will be no one to arrest and lock up all us right-wing wackos!

Posted by: Scott on May 20, 2005 07:24 AM
27. lksimstrailgrammy,
Tend to agree, but something tells me that this is going to be different. A few months back I was advocating for a 'blockade' of Seattle as a way to see that justice is done (all it would have taken is a couple thousand vehicles traveling from Tukwila to Lynnwood and Bellevue & Kirkland to Seattle and back again at ~ 2 or 3 mph and this would have been brought to a full rolling boil and there would have had to have been a federal investigation). At this point watching the wheels of justice slowly turn and witnessing the KC Democratic Machine being ground to dust is quite satisfying.


Posted by: JDH on May 20, 2005 07:31 AM
28. lksimstrailgrammy,

I would disagree with you on Clinton. While Clinton did do something morally wrong, it wasn't directly connected to how he ran the country. In other words, he didn't betray the people. I think people were generally happy with what was happening with the country under his command.

On the contrary, we are not happy with how this state is being ran (tax more/spend more), how KC ran their election (what election?), and the blantant backstabbing the leaders of the Dems are perpetrating (gas tax). We have been betrayed.

Posted by: Shannon on May 20, 2005 09:56 AM
29. Shannon,

Clinton broke the law. He committed perjury in the Paula Jones civil suit and then later tried to obstruct justice with a cover-up.

He adamantly continued to support his false testimony and conspired with others to go along with his story. That is until Monica cut an immunity deal, the infamous dress appeared and they drew his blood for a DNA test. At that point, they had to start spinning like crazy and talking about "legal accuracy". We even had to bomb Iraq a few times as a distractuion.

The focus on sex and his "trying to protect his family" was a brilliant tactic by the democrat PR machine and served as a distraction during his trial. Hillary even had to try and look surprised, hurt and humilated. He dodged conviction by the skin of his teeth and still received quite a bit of disciplinary action.

Posted by: Mr. Grabbit on May 20, 2005 10:37 AM
30. I read an article or saw a program on TV, and to my dismay, I can't rmember which so cannot back up this statement, but a former member of the Clinton staff said Clinton did not take more agressive measures against the terrorist other than launch a bunch of cruise missles at them because he would be accused of "waging the dog." Many people have said that his personnal life should have no bearing on his governing duties, yet that is exactly what happened. Due to his personnal scandals, he was unable to effective deal with rising terrorist activities due to potential political fallout.

Posted by: Robert-in-Tacoma on May 20, 2005 11:09 AM
31. Mr. Grabbit,

I agree with what you are saying. My only point is that what is happening in Washington State cannot be compared to what happened with Clinton. Gregoire and the rest of the Dem leaders aren't that likeable (as Clinton was) and I don't believe the people of the state are going to be as forgiving this time around.

Posted by: Shannon on May 20, 2005 12:13 PM
32. Obviously, King County election crooks are acting like the are already indicted, even though they really should just be a disinterested third party that responds to the requests of the court and the litigants.

That tells you something there.

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on May 20, 2005 01:15 PM
33. Osama Bin Laden actually points out the final breaking point for him in attacking america was his disdain for Clinton, the corruption Clinton represented, and the sexual acts Clinton performed in office.

Posted by: Mark Beyer on May 20, 2005 01:21 PM
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