May 19, 2005
Alleged ALF Terrorist Has Mercer Island Roots
An iconic animal rights terrorist who allegedly robbed mink farmers of hundreds of thousands of dollars of live assets by freeing minks, and who faces trail on federal charges in Wisconsin after seven years on the lam, graduated from high school in the upscale Seattle suburb of Mercer Island. The Guardian reports that Peter Daniel Young:
....himself remains a mystery. He graduated from high school in 1995 in Mercer Island, Wash., a well-to-do Seattle suburb. Young, 19-year-old Justin Clayton Samuel and a Seattle woman, Allison Porter, were arrested in Mercer Island in 1997 for trespassing, authorities said. They carried bolt cutters, ALF (Animal Liberation Front) literature, a vial of animal tranquilizer and a book titled "Free the Animals.''
According to a court papers, Young and Samuel set out that October in Porter's red Geo Metro to disrupt mink farms. Working off an ALF list of addresses code-named The Final Nail, they allegedly freed about 7,000 minks in Iowa, South Dakota and Wisconsin.
A Portland State University expert on eco-terorrism tells The Guardian he believes Young was probably hidden and given work by a succession of rich ALF backers while in hiding. Young was captured in March in San Jose by a beat cop after having pinched a CD from a coffee shop. He is charged with multiple counts of interfering with interstate commerce by threat or violence, which the feds call an "animal terrorism" charge. Recently, apparent eco-terrorists, as opposed to animal terrorists, struck in east suburban Seattle. Yesterday, the U.S. Senate, Environment and Public Works committee heard testimony from the FBI that animal rights and eco-terrorists are the "the nation's top domestic terrorism threat," as the AP put it, in this story.
Posted by Matt Rosenberg at May 19, 2005
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1. This is obviously small potatoes. Let's hope the GOP in Congress won't cry over this spilled milk which would distract from the real terrorist threat in the country. If people think terrorists come from Mercer Island, there won't be much of an effort to stop them at our borders.
This is obviously small potatoes.
Yeah, tell that to the families who have lost their homes under construction to arson by eco-terrorists.
3. Not that I feel this should be ignored, but it is a lot easier to tell someone that lost THINGS (house under construction) than to tell 1,000s of families that lost relatives why a dirty bomb that was smuggled across the border went off on top of the needle.
People like Peter Daniel Young are classic exhibits of the depth of the liberal mentality.
The same mentality that supports and reassures the real terrorist threat in the world.
The ends are idiotic and the they explicitly justify any means.
Morons like Mink need to have the "liberal treatement" visited upon them to save the cockroaches
or whatever ALF considers are being oppressed by their homes.
"Not that I feel this should be ignored, but it is a lot easier to tell someone that lost THINGS (house under construction) than to tell 1,000s of families that lost relatives why a dirty bomb that was smuggled across the border went off on top of the needle."
This isn't an "either-or" proposition. We either are serious about dealing with miscreants, or we're not. I believe that domestic moonbats are more dangerous than foreign terrorists, because thay can blend in, strike at will, and manipulate the legal system. They will be the enablers if and when foreigners ever do pull anything off. They are running legal interference for them. They are, for practival intents and purposes, one and the same. And what to eco-terrorists have in common with islamonazis, you ask? Destruction of the U.S. That's all they need to cooperate.
6. Fred, I'm not minimizing the importance of combatting islamofreaks (and anyone else who would like to perpetrate such harm on our nation). The same goes for not minimizing personal property loss. Private property ownership is a cornerstone of individual Liberty - the very thing we are attempting to shield from ALL our enemies.
Mink, I think it is important to note the distinction between domestic terrorism and international terorism, both of which have had an impact on the U.S.
In addition, tell the Wisconsin mink farmer his lost 350K in business capital is "small potatoes." Tell the San Diego developers of a residential complex worth $50 million, that was destroyed by eco-terrorist fire their concerns are "small potatoes." The day your SUV, or a friend's SUV, is spray painted weith "ELF" and "polluter," as continues to occur in CA, maybe this stuff will nmot be small potatoers. A society which dismisses such acts is a society which can also too easily dismiss 9/11, as so many here around Seattle essentially do.
I did not intend to imply it was an either or, as it is definately not. In reality things need to be prioritized, in which case the dirty bomb bunch need to be dealt with first. Fortunately there is not that much overlap in the resources for the two flavors of loons (or in PC civilized-challenged). CIA, NSA, FBI for the bombs, FBI, state police, local police for local loons. This is a simplification, but roughly right.
This is in the same fashion that a policeman would not stop chasing a murderer because he sees someone snatch a purse.
9. OK - its not small potatoes, are you happy? My point is, this is something that the local police should deal with. Arrest the criminals and be done with it. It is not something for the GOP-controlled congress to cry about or it will lose credibility when acting against the real terrorists. Sorry I believe lost property to be small potatoes compared to three thousand people losing their lives... If nothing else I now know how you feel about the relative importance of money versus life.
Aiding and abet-ing (real spelling prohibited as questionable content?)eco-terroists, ALF types, anarchists etc. is only one small step removed from doing same for the John Walker Linds (aka "Rat Boy") that wish to join up with the Jihad against the West.
What else should we expect when campuses give tenure and support to professors that teach "victory to the Iraqi insurgents"?
Could you point out just where and when - other than your posts - "the GOP-controlled congress" was planning to "cry" about it?
Terrorism is terrorism. I consider these people to be just as much of the enemy as the religious fanatics who fly jetliners into office towers. In fact, probably moreso, as they willfully and deliberately terrorize their fellow countrymen and women.
12. Have you ever noticed how this type of eco crap rarely, if ever, occurs in the South and Texas? Gee, wonder why that is....
Danny - its because the ignorant rednecks down there have already destroyed the environment. Now we can be grateful that we are being shown the folly of our ways up here by these enlightened freedom-for-tree-fighters.
help! someone has turned on my sarcasm keyboard, and I can't find the off button! :)
Eco-terrorists are striking everywhere including our own back yard. Remember the Anarchists at WTO? The fire bombings and tree spikings in Washington and Oregon? The arson fire at UW?
They didn't know that people were not inside many of these facilities and think of them not as victims, but animal murderers. The mentality is that the ends justify the means and if someone is killed in the process, then they removed an obstacle to their means.
The reason the FBI is involved is that they are crossing state lines to do their terrorism, so local law enforcement is usually helpless. If you say it's not important, thenthey are emboldened and turn to more aggressive ways to get their message across.
Appeasement is never the answer whether it' domestic or international terrorism.
Fred, even with the sarcasm button engaged, some truth filtered through.
Ignorant...not so much
Exceedingly impatient with bleeding hearts lacking anything in the way of common sense...you betcha.
I don't have a problem with eco-terrorists. I'd like to seem them all put out into the wild that they so love. But, first, rub them with the scent of blood and then let the wolf packs they have pushed on the rest of us hunt them down.
It would be nice to have the hunt on film. It would make a good PBS documentary.
Yeah, good idea Iguana.
I just wanted to ask why it's supposedly "news" that some eco-terrorist idiot is from Mercer Island??
I'm sure he's not the first, and won't be the last, and hell, there's probably a bunch there right now, or little eco-terrorists in training from their parents who only will shop at PCC, and don't eat anything that casts a shadow (while living in their 3200 sq. foot house).
If anyone could find statistics on where eco-terrorists are born, bred, and trained, I'm guessing over 80% would be from WA and OR.
Interesting. Right-wing terrorists who kill people are get a pass but animals rights "terrorist" yahoos who free animals and vandalize property are given big play here. In the overall sheme of things, this is, indeed, small potatoes.
One more thing: These two are from Mercer Island. So? Everyone is from somewhere. Some of the worst terrorists are from Israel, Alabama, Afghanistan, and Idaho. So? Small potatoes.
Try to keep up, Al.
All terrorists are good for the slaughter. The folks here don't make a distinction. You and your ilk do.
Al, actually the dems are for the right wing terrorist. UBL and his bunch are as far to the religous right as you can get, and which dem is fighting them?
Iguana - no need to make it so easy for the wolves. The weenies would cut themselves on a twig and would be covered with their own blood soon enough!
Danny - that is the trouble, no matter how absurd a scenario you can come up with, there is always some lefty that would take it seriously - scary!
"Right-wing terrorists who kill people are get a pass"
Who are we talking about here? Tim McVeigh? Some pass he got, huh.
Abortion bombers maybe? Please point out which ones have gotten a pass.
Christian fundamentalists cutting off heads? Christian fundamentalists rioting in the streets (WTO)? Please, tell me aaaaaaall about those right-wing terror groups.
Terrorism is terrorism is terrorism. I don't care what their stripe is or their politics. Apparently, you do.
I notice the big list that was supplied! I guess we are meant to go by sound bites, not facts. Good list!
+++...heard testimony from the FBI that animal rights and eco-terrorists are the "the nation's top domestic terrorism threat," +++
And they all vote Democrat!
Al....where is your response??
WHAT right-wing terrorist have gotten a pass here?
Can you back up your words or are you really just another commie/lib/soc/dem troll?
The Nobel prize winning economist Fredrick Hayek in the Road to Serfdom studied collectivist states of communism (the left) and National socialism (Nazism, the extreme right) and found that taken to their logical extremes they were after the same things. In other words the circle of extremism knows no difference at this mentally unstable margins.
Eco terrorists and islamoterroists are the same danger, if ALF decides to use biological weapons to prove that humans are wrong how are then different from UBL and his mob doing so to prove that Christians are wrong?
Terrorism is the victimization of innocent people for a politcal purpose, the victimization of any innocent for any purpose however noble is immoral and must be condemed. These clowns if found guilty should get the same punishment as any of the middle east scum.
One of many examples: the terrorist campaign against judges, Judge Lefkow being the latest victim. And what pushes people to commit such violence? Right-wing politicians like DeLay and Cornyn, radio chicken hawks like G. Gordon Liddy, and blog writers that populate such popular sites as LGF, FR, Powerline, etc.
27. Sorry dennis, but the National Socialists were leftists (but thanks for playing)
Please detail with FACTS how Judge Lefkow was a victim of right wing terrorism.
"Joan Lefkow, federal judge, was the target of an assassination attempt by troubled electrician Bart Ross who was outraged that she dismissed a malpractice suit he had filed. Lefkow was not at home when Ross entered her Chicago home to kill her, but her husband and elderly mother were. Ross shot and killed both in February. He committed suicide in March."
29. Alleged ALF Terrorist Has Mercer Island Roots
You should see the liberal terrorists that are produced in Madison Park and especially in the gated community of Broadmoor! The parents are always gone - off to Europe to hob-nob with their Socialists buddies - leaving the kids at home with some *undocumented alien* nanny, an expensive attorney and some ultra liberal college professor to babysit! The kids, in their "I'm filthy rich and can afford to rebel" attitude, love to hang out in the deep dark areas of Capital Hill and BellTown (where they get their drugs). They feel a need to compete with their fellow *miserably rich* comrades in how best to protest and rebel!
I am not surprised!
30. just lock the numbnut up for life...He'll never be any use to society or himself.
Danny got it right.
We are exceedingly impatient with degenerate liberal bleeding hearts that lack anything in the way of common sense...you betcha.
yes, all liberals fit into one stereotypical mold, just like all conservatives are selfish and obsessed with money.
i find it interesting that you people are sitting on some random website complaining about someone else--why don't you shut up, go outside and do something worthwhile, instead of never being of any use to society or yourselves.
who cares if his background is rich or from the north--like demographics matter in the outcome--you just want more reasons to write people off who have a different opinion than you. he did what he did because he believed it was right, not because he came from a wealthy background or because he was from seattle.
get over yourselves, seriously.
1 - how is freeing minks terrorism?
(does anybody notice that freeing some animals and killing humans is... different?)
2 - many of these animal rights people are also conservative. Like Matthew Scully (used to be the speechwriter for Bush), who wrote Dominion, an animal rights book. Or Tom Regan, or Peter Singer...
we can't assume, simply because we don't like him, that he is liberal. i don't really care. the guy did what he did.