April 28, 2005
More likely double voters found

I just sent a list of 27 cases of likely double voters to the King County Prosecutor's office.

I produced the list by querying the voter registration file and absentee ballot file for cases where there were multiple people with the same name at the same address who had accepted absentee ballots. I filtered out explict cases of Jr and Sr.. I looked up my initial hits in the Intelius people search database and tossed out cases where there appeared to be a parent/child pair living at the same residence. The prosecutor and election office will be able to investigate further by examining the birthdates, signatures and other non-public voter information. I expect that some of the names on the list will simply turn out to be related individuals. But I strongly suspect that at least a dozen will be proven to be double voters.

This is in no way an exhaustive set of possible double voters, only one set of cases that are relatively easy to identify and investigate and that have a reasonable likelihood of bearing fruit.

I'm going to refrain from publishing the names unless and until they're confirmed by King County officials. Stay tuned.

UPDATE. RCW 29A.84.650

Any person who votes or attempts to vote more than once at any primary or general or special election is guilty of a gross misdemeanor, punishable to the same extent as a gross misdemeanor that is punishable under RCW 9A.20.021.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at April 28, 2005 04:13 PM | Email This
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1. BIG DEAL.... www.MOVEON.STEPHAN...
NO ORGANIZED FRAUD...JUST HUMANS.

Posted by: danw on April 28, 2005 04:28 PM
2. Another well crafted response by a liberal. Its convinced me to moveon.

Posted by: Frank on April 28, 2005 04:30 PM
3. I wonder how many people crying to move on would agree if it was their vote invalidated by the blatent negligance of King County.

Its easy to point fingers when it isn't you isnt it?

Like it or not the fraud accusation gets closer to reality all the time.

I read Dean Logan's transcripts, and even Tom Clancy would have been hard pressed to invent so many opportunities for fraud and conspiracy.

Facts are facts. King County screwed up.

When you want to see the cost of that mistake, look at your gas pump.

Posted by: Karl on April 28, 2005 04:38 PM
4. FRAUD! The broad won through FRAUD!

Posted by: VCRW on April 28, 2005 04:47 PM
5. It's hardly human "mistakes" when someone votes more than one time. That is out-and-out fraud if they turn out to be double votes. And it is a flawed system that even allows someone the opportunity to do that. I would suspect that is may be some of the "extra" ballots that were mailed out.

Posted by: Gil on April 28, 2005 04:51 PM
6. There merely isn't an excuse. R or D, I, anything. We, all of us have to be concerned with this debacle. I don't care whether Rossi is (G) or Gregroire is (G). They are both, as are the rest of us in WA dependent upon free and fair elections. What I am constantly amazed about is the repeated and often stilted representations by the chairman of the Democrat Party, who should be as interested in this issue, as stated above as anyone. Mr. Berendt, stop, look, everybody's listenin'. We need to move on, and have a new, fair election for (G).

Posted by: wmb on April 28, 2005 04:53 PM
7. this crap will only get worse until people get fired, people go to jail and elections get rerun.
Until then, just consider all this crap "Extreme electioneering."

Posted by: Walter E. Wallis on April 28, 2005 04:57 PM
8. It's pretty sad when The Shark has to be the one to discover these potential double-voters. Why isn't King Co and our SOS, Sam "see no evil" Reed doing the investigating? What the hell are we paying these jokers to do, sit there and twiddle their... thumbs?

Posted by: Tucker on April 28, 2005 05:07 PM
9. if by "move on" you mean "set the election aside and hold another one this fall"....hey I'm on board.

Let's get to "moving on" as soon as possible. Let's also get to "moving on" with undoing the kajillion tax hikes as well as requiring performance audits with every spending unit over 5% of the total operating budget.

This is all about moving on. We've had enough of business as usual in Olympia.

Posted by: Andy on April 28, 2005 05:21 PM
10. I am in favor of "moving on". Moving on to what, you ask? Why, a re-vote, of course (and not in four years, but soon and very soon).

Posted by: Interested Observer on April 28, 2005 05:21 PM
11. I love the way those opposed to a revote keep raising the bar once the previous one has been met. Before it was "no evidence of fraud," now there's no evidence of "organized fraud." Last I checked, fraud was fraud, whether perpetrated by individuals or a group.

Posted by: Mike H on April 28, 2005 05:33 PM
12. If liberals really thought it was no big deal, they would not be posting here. Instead, the Democrat apparatchiks JDB, NELSON and DANW need to try to do spin control.

It's getting close. Soon we will see Fraudoire frog marching from the capitol in hadncuffs. Following her will be Ron Simms and Dean Logan.

Posted by: VCRW on April 28, 2005 05:38 PM
13. I just assumed danw's post was brilliant satire. Was he serious? If so, that is REALLY funny.

Posted by: Bostonian on April 28, 2005 05:43 PM
14. Recount !!

Posted by: DeadManVoting (aka Iguana) on April 28, 2005 05:44 PM
15. "What the hell are we paying these jokers to do, sit there and twiddle their... thumbs?"

Tucker, you've obviously never spent any time in Olympia.

Posted by: Bill on April 28, 2005 05:54 PM
16. This is so obvious. This was a contrived, deliberate effort to steal an election. Why in the world would King County election workers take blank ballots home the Friday before the election? I can only think of one reason.

Also why would they begin counting ballots in the morning rather in the evening as prescribed by law. Well, you have to know how many ballots you need make up. Washingtonians must insist upon federal intervention. We need an investigation.

Posted by: Vicki on April 28, 2005 06:00 PM
17. Agree on the performance audits, but not on the 5%.

What you would end up with is 100 agencies each eating 1%.

Posted by: Gary on April 28, 2005 06:29 PM
18. Vicki-

I can partly see why they would take the blank ballots home. There were literally thousands of precincts. It would be physically impossible to deliver the ballots on sight the morning of the election before the polls opened to every polling place-- especially the outlying places like Enumclaw or Black Diamond. Logisticaly, it would make more sense to have the poll workers take them there themslves.

Now, as to why they had to take them home the Friday before, especially without any form of accountability or reconciliation, or any form of checks to make sure that the poll worker who had the ballots didn't commit fraud, that's a whole different story...

Posted by: Mike H on April 28, 2005 06:46 PM
19. One of the easy ways to double vote is for students to register at their parent's precinct and at their college, then vote at one location by mail an the other in person. So I would suggest matching names from precincts with high college student registration to the rest of the state. If two registrations have the same name and both registered in the last 4 years (typical what a student would do) that would be a strong chance for double voting. A quick check of the Spokane precinct for Gonzaga University compared to just King county, turned up 2 such cases after only checking the A's and B's.

Posted by: zorkpolitics on April 28, 2005 06:47 PM
20. Great Job Stephan, we should start a www.moveonover page for Queen Taxusallbillions gregoire.

Posted by: GS on April 28, 2005 06:56 PM
21. Please forgive DanW. He has obviously slipped into an alpha-brainwave attenuating liberal coma. He just might wake up in time to help us celebrate Rossi's re-election.

Posted by: zapporo on April 28, 2005 06:56 PM
22. At least the trolls will still have:

Baghdad Jim
Ted (hic) Kennedy
HillaryOUS
Michael MooreON
AlGore
Jimma Carter
Rev. Al
and the entire supporting cast at SCCC and Evergroovy

Posted by: Danny on April 28, 2005 07:09 PM
23. Danw
What county do you vote in?

Posted by: Mark Beyer on April 28, 2005 07:41 PM
24. Mike H said -
"I can partly see why they would take the blank ballots home. There were literally thousands of precincts. It would be physically impossible to deliver the ballots on sight the morning of the election before the polls opened to every polling place-- especially the outlying places like Enumclaw or Black Diamond. Logisticaly, it would make more sense to have the poll workers take them there themslves."

So, if I guard nuclear warheads and they need to be moved, I should just go ahead and throw them in my pickup because that's easier that calling for the appropriate equipment? Are you serious?

What do you think we have hundreds of police cruisers for? coffee shop runs? Logisitcally you have the police distribute the ballots, which ensure that they are protected in the meantime.

Posted by: Aaron on April 28, 2005 07:41 PM
25. The judge should invalidate both votes as they knew what they were double voting. What do you all say?

Pudster

Posted by: Puddybud on April 28, 2005 08:37 PM
26. Shark - you big meanie! Why can't you just quit picking on those poor incompetent fools? They had it all figured out and you had to go spoil it for them. [note:this is sarcasm]

Seriously, saying "Thanks" to you and the others who have contributed so much time and energy to this doesn't really convey the gratitude I feel for your efforts. In the big picture, not to support a canditate or a party, but to support, nay, to re-establish the integrity of the system that we believe in and that many of of have fought to protect.

Sincerely,

Mike

Posted by: MikeF on April 28, 2005 08:49 PM
27. candidate, too {fat-finger mode was ON]

Posted by: MikeF on April 28, 2005 08:51 PM
28. The only equitable solution is for the Judge to allow all of us a second vote and cull those that have already twice voted!

Posted by: Elvis is the King County on April 28, 2005 09:13 PM
29. Keep at it, Stefan! Lovin' this!

Posted by: Michele on April 28, 2005 09:15 PM
30. The solution: Make voter fraud a capital offense. I figure a few dozen Democrat vote felon hacks put to dead will tend to stop many other criminal Democrats from repeating their crimes.

Posted by: JCH on April 28, 2005 09:16 PM
31. Geez, JCH. You're increasing their base of eligible voters by 2X if they are dead. Better rethink that idea.

Posted by: MikeF on April 28, 2005 09:19 PM
32. I am a gambling man and my money is on Sims/Logan throwing out the "culture" card again (it sound great to liberals). The Julie Kemp's article seemed timed to give Logan/Sims an excuse. Example: There were problems to begin with, they didn't do all they should have, too bad, so sad. Why did Kemp, after being banished, finally find her voice in the media? She is setting up the "cultural problems" defense for KC administration. Who will feel the heat? Sims? Hell no. Logan? Not likely. Gregoire? Only the law can say. The little heads will roll.

I believe Nicole Way (since she has been mentioned in the media several times by Dems) is going to get axed. Valid or not.

Linda Sanchez and Julie Moore better watch out. They are expendable for the greater good.

I really think Vicki Moore and Lisa Moore "who train the employees or the staff who were doing the verification." are going down. Ladies, I suggest you reevaluate your friends.

It could be that Carlos Webb, assistant superintendent of registration, has been eyed as a scapegoat.. or not.

Carlos Webb is under Bill Huennekens, who is under extreme pressure, rightfully so. I give Bill Huennekens a 40/60 chance of skating. If Logan skates, Huennekens could catch a freebie. That means Carlos Webb may be in deep trouble.

Its Pass The Buck mentality. The buck stops with Queen G.

If there are liberal progressives reading this, please ask yourself: What is more valuable, someone covering for you, or someone helping you prevent mistakes?

Everyone has a purpose.. even trolls.

Posted by: Splatter on April 28, 2005 09:25 PM
33. Aaron,

No offense, but that warhead arguement doesn't really work. Please read my post again. I said I understand their probable reasoning for doing it, I never said I agreed with the method they actually used. Also, having hundreds of police cruisers do it isn't really feasable. Yes, it would be nice, but you either have to divert a lot of cruisers from their assigned duties, or call in hundreds of officers on their day off-- all of whom are union. You're looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of overtime. Plus, does the county even have the shipping and receiving facilities available to load that many ballots into the cruisers that quickly?

Besides, there are a lot of other checks and balances to insure fraud isn't commited by poll-workers. One idea would be to have someone at the polling station actually check off that if worker "A" was given "X" amount of ballots in sealed plastic wrap, that they actually bring that many ballots when they arrive in the morning. All the police cruisers wouldn't make a difference if they didn't keep track of how many ballots went out and how many came back. And giving poll workers all the ballots five days before the election probably didn't help security any either.

Posted by: Mike H on April 28, 2005 09:29 PM
34. BTW.. OT... I had to rephrase my first sentence due to a content filter. I had to change "Bet*ing" to "Gambling". If you want a good cuss filter, I have one. Still.. Love SP!

Posted by: Splatter on April 28, 2005 09:30 PM
35. Aaron-
It might be tough to round up a hundred manned police cruisers. Listening to Wilbur on the way to work the other morning, the statement was made that although the SPD has a force of 1200 (I think that was the number - Kirby chime in I know you read this) sworn officers, at any one time only 85 are available and "on the streets" for patrol duty.

Posted by: mikef on April 28, 2005 09:43 PM
36. I hope Stefan submits these nanmes to the FBI.

Posted by: Janet on April 28, 2005 09:47 PM
37. Stefan,

You know we found numerous possible double voters when we first checked out the database...
Remember these examples? These are just under the name *Wood*....


JOHN A WOOD SEATTLE 98109 Voted Absentee
JOHN A WOOD SEATTLE 98109 Voted Absentee

JULIE D WOOD SAMMAMISH 98074 Voted Absentee

JULIE D WOOD SAMMAMISH 98074 Voted Absentee



MICHAEL WOOD SEATTLE 98115 Voted at Poll
MICHAEL L WOOD SEATTLE 98115 Voted Absentee


PATRICIA A WOOD SEATTLE 98105 Voted Absentee
PATRICIA ANN WOOD SEATTLE 98105 Voted Absentee


SUSAN WOOD ISSAQUAH 98027 Voted Absentee
SUSAN GAYLE WOOD ISSAQUAH 98027 Voted Absentee


Posted by: Deborah on April 28, 2005 09:58 PM
38. Janet~

I'm hope the FBI is chasing down terrorist cells. We can take care of this mess ourselves. None I named is accused of a crime. I was only proposing a scenario.

Your information and mine is available too. Scary huh?

To find fraud all we need to do is look at the individuals who used the elections office as their "place of residence". But of course, there is no way to identify them now. Nice.

I do think Nicole Way has been set up for the fall, then there is Garth Fell..

Posted by: Splatter on April 28, 2005 10:06 PM
39. Everyone, you have to see the horses@$$es blog. I know I know why? He posted his stupid rant on Microsoft and them going neutral on the gay rights bill.

The comments are funny. Yes it will drive his viewership up, but we know why we go there. To have fun with Headless on her favority location.

O'Pudster. (A little Blarney tonight)

Posted by: Puddybud on April 28, 2005 10:25 PM
40. Elvis:
Of course you are correct. ReElect Rossi. Meanwhile, are you proposing that we change the name of King County for the second time in a month? Do you own a graphics arts company or something? Think of the logo possibilities! I like it!

Posted by: lksimstrailgrammy on April 28, 2005 10:45 PM
41. My goodness. I thought the saying 'vote early and often' had gone by the wayside a long time ago! Oh, well. As long as we get this situation fixed and we are able to have the free and fair elections we're supposed to, I believe that's the most impportant thing. Indeed, a wholesale cleaning out would be a good idea, to remove the 'culture'. (You 'culture' buttermilk, KCE is 'cultured'. Coincidence? I think not.)

Just some late-night food for thought.

Posted by: recently relocated on April 28, 2005 11:09 PM
42. What I found interesting during the transcription of the canvassing board audio tapes was, the debate between Pelz, Satterberg and Dean Logan when they found a person who had cast 2 provisional ballots in precinct 1488. Their quandry was over whether to count one or two votes.
They debated about the rules that stated if 2 absentee ballots were identical and in the same envelope only one ballot should be counted. I would think their debate should have been whether or not to inform Norm Maleng. go figure.

Posted by: Jim L on April 28, 2005 11:42 PM
43. If the prosecutor will not prosecute these crimes, anyone may make a citizen's complaint and prosecute it himself. The procedure is clearly set forth at CrRLJ 2.1(c), which is in the District Court rules. The statute of limitations for a gross misdemeanor is 2 years. RCW 9A.04.080(1)(i).

Posted by: Gary A. Preble on April 28, 2005 11:46 PM
44. Now Splatter, a good gambler never reveals all his cards ;'}

I agree with your analysis (WE MUST PROTECT THE QUEEN!!!) but think you've given Huennekens better odds than I would have....feeling particularly generous?

Posted by: alphabet soup on April 29, 2005 07:29 AM
45. Mike H said ...It would be physically impossible to deliver the ballots on sight the morning of the election before the polls opened to every polling place-- especially the outlying places like Enumclaw or Black Diamond. Logisticaly, it would make more sense to have the poll workers take them there themslves.

I don't buy it. The newspapers around here manage to get papers delivered every single morning, even to outlying areas. The election's office should be able to handle this task. That is of course, if they want to.

Posted by: Vicki on April 29, 2005 09:24 AM
46. Imagine the feeble panicky feeling that trolls like Danw have at the realization that their religion is further proven to be a pagan worship of sleaze. As always, they don’t care about facts, just that they are getting caught. The liberal game plan is coming unraveled before their eyes and they are powerless to stop it, and all they can say is MoveOn.

I can relate because I have a similar panicked reaction to the idiotic legislation and regulatory efforts being undertaken by liberals to choke the life out of Washington State. The difference is that I have righteous anger on my side at catching pukes like Danw attempting to steal my birth right, and then smirking arrogantly at being busted. It’s like catching a neighbor in your garage stealing a shovel. Gee officer, I don’t know what happened -- it just went off.
Dino Rossi is definitely going to have his work cut out for himself.

Posted by: Amused by liberals on April 29, 2005 09:32 AM
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